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Kc93
29-07-17, 07:22
Hello!

So, I recently imported data from Ancestry to GEDMatch, and have found that most admixture population-sharing runs result in rather high numbers, even among four populations. For instance, the lowest number K13 yields is 4.70...

Therefore, I tried K36, and found very interesting results that I could use people's input on:

North Sea: 24.29
Iberian: 17.03
North Atlantic: 12.73
Fennoscandian: 11.77
Italian: 7.41
Central European: 7.13
North Caucasus: 6.03
French: 5.12
East-Central European: 4.83
South Asian: 1.89
South-Central Asian: 0.46
Armenian: 0.40
East Mediterranean: 0.25
Amerindian: 0.24
East Balkan: 0.19
West Caucasian: 0.18
Eastern European: 0.06

So, what might this say about where my more recent ancestors are from? Also, is the reason that Eurogenes population-sharing doesn't provide low numbers because there are so many Asian populations (e.g., North Caucasian)?

Would it be reasonable for me to conclude, by the way, that I'm part-Spanish? I don't know the majority of my biological family, so tracing my ancestry has posed s challenge. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
Alina

Maciamo
29-07-17, 08:38
The regions used for K36 do not correspond at all to real ancestry. Please check this thread: To what do Eurogenes K36 admixtures really correspond? (http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33088-To-what-do-Eurogenes-K36-admixtures-really-correspond)

Kc93
29-07-17, 18:22
Interesting. So, Eurogenes simply won't yield low distance numbers for me. I'm guessing it's because other calculators show a lot of ancestry from the Caucasus. That said, what is a good calculator for me to get an accurate representation of my ancestry?
Alina

mlukas
29-07-17, 19:39
Hello!

So, I recently imported data from Ancestry to GEDMatch, and have found that most admixture population-sharing runs result in rather high numbers, even among four populations. For instance, the lowest number K13 yields is 4.70...

Therefore, I tried K36, and found very interesting results that I could use people's input on:

North Sea: 24.29
Iberian: 17.03
North Atlantic: 12.73
Fennoscandian: 11.77
Italian: 7.41
Central European: 7.13
North Caucasus: 6.03
French: 5.12
East-Central European: 4.83
South Asian: 1.89
South-Central Asian: 0.46
Armenian: 0.40
East Mediterranean: 0.25
Amerindian: 0.24
East Balkan: 0.19
West Caucasian: 0.18
Eastern European: 0.06

So, what might this say about where my more recent ancestors are from? Also, is the reason that Eurogenes population-sharing doesn't provide low numbers because there are so many Asian populations (e.g., North Caucasian)?

Would it be reasonable for me to conclude, by the way, that I'm part-Spanish? I don't know the majority of my biological family, so tracing my ancestry has posed s challenge. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
Alina


No:) You results are British. This iis according to "unofficial" oracle for K36 (337 populations). There is no thread for this on this forum, so I think I can post link. (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10347-(Unofficial)-oracle-for-Eurogenes-K36-256-reference-populations)

Admix4

Least-squares method.


Using 1 population approximation:
1 NE-England @ 8,755375
2 Northern_Ireland @ 10,863925
3 England_Cumberland @ 11,15813
4 British_mixed @ 11,196625
5 Scotland @ 11,790567
6 SE_England @ 12,052649
7 NW-England @ 12,136819
8 Welsh @ 12,399829
9 Orcadian @ 12,399971
10 Flemish @ 12,421038
11 France_NorthEast @ 12,807576
12 Waloon @ 12,965164
13 SW-England @ 13,020133
14 South_Dutch @ 13,070942
15 Ireland @ 13,275472
16 Central_Dutch @ 13,730117
17 Denmark @ 13,745303
18 North_Dutch @ 13,948968
19 German_North @ 14,288769
20 France_NorthWest @ 14,343813
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 NE-England+NE-England @ 8,755375
2 Northern_Ireland+NE-England @ 9,621326
3 France_NorthEast+NE-England @ 9,760849
4 NE-England+England_Cumberland @ 9,772082
5 British_mixed+NE-England @ 9,825754
6 SE_England+NE-England @ 9,928811
7 Waloon+NE-England @ 9,96123
8 Flemish+NE-England @ 9,973526
9 Scotland+NE-England @ 10,05747
10 South_Dutch+NE-England @ 10,075903
11 NW-England+NE-England @ 10,302507
12 NE-England+Welsh @ 10,306563
13 Denmark+NE-England @ 10,357313
14 Orcadian+NE-England @ 10,408509
15 France_NorthEast+North_Dutch @ 10,41192
16 France_NorthEast+Northern_Ireland @ 10,413854
17 Central_Dutch+NE-England @ 10,44167
18 North_Dutch+NE-England @ 10,472422
19 Waloon+Northern_Ireland @ 10,581672
20 Flemish+Northern_Ireland @ 10,622204
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% NE-England @ 8,927352
2 50% NE-England +25% Waloon +25% NE-England @ 9,063877
3 50% NE-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% NE-England @ 9,133485
4 50% NE-England +25% South_Dutch +25% NE-England @ 9,139633
5 50% NE-England +25% Flemish +25% NE-England @ 9,168663
6 50% NE-England +25% SE_England +25% NE-England @ 9,193687
7 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% North_Dutch @ 9,205919
8 50% NE-England +25% NE-England +25% England_Cumberland @ 9,208878
9 50% NE-England +25% British_mixed +25% NE-England @ 9,245797
10 50% NE-England +25% Denmark +25% NE-England @ 9,251217
11 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Northern_Ireland @ 9,261575
12 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Denmark @ 9,264253
13 50% NE-England +25% North_Dutch +25% NE-England @ 9,310114
14 50% NE-England +25% Central_Dutch +25% NE-England @ 9,324863
15 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Norway @ 9,3319
16 50% NE-England +25% Scotland +25% NE-England @ 9,339891
17 50% NE-England +25% Waloon +25% Northern_Ireland @ 9,38754
18 50% NE-England +25% Norway +25% NE-England @ 9,409307
19 50% NE-England +25% German_West +25% NE-England @ 9,424721
20 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% British_mixed @ 9,437198
14777447 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 NE-England+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 8,755375
2 France_NorthEast+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 8,927352
3 Waloon+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,063877
4 Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,133485
5 South_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,139633
6 Flemish+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,168663
7 SE_England+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,193687
8 France_NorthEast+North_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,205919
9 NE-England+NE-England+NE-England+England_Cumberland @ 9,208878
10 British_mixed+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,245797
11 Denmark+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,251217
12 France_NorthEast+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,261575
13 France_NorthEast+Denmark+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,264253
14 North_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,310114
15 Central_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,324863
16 France_NorthEast+Norway+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,3319
17 Scotland+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,339891
18 Waloon+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,38754
19 Norway+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,409307
20 German_West+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,424721
21 France_NorthEast+British_mixed+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,437198
22 Waloon+North_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,442549
23 NE-England+NE-England+NE-England+Welsh @ 9,444347
24 German_North+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,451163
25 Sweden+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,475377
26 NW-England+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,483653
27 France_NorthEast+NE-England+NE-England+England_Cumberland @ 9,484723
28 France_NorthEast+Scotland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,493147
29 Flemish+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,496841
30 South_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,502139
31 Waloon+Denmark+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,517942
32 Orcadian+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,527807
33 France_NorthEast+Northern_Ireland+Denmark+NE-England @ 9,555029
34 France_NorthEast+North_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+NE-England @ 9,560958
35 France_NorthEast+Sweden+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,561009
36 France_NorthEast+Central_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,566816
37 Northern_Ireland+SE_England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,56781
38 France_NorthEast+NE-England+NE-England+Welsh @ 9,573952
39 Northern_Ireland+Denmark+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,578203
40 France_NorthEast+SE_England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,599211
383324240 iterations.


Gaussian method.


Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SW-England @ 4,604578
2 England_Cumberland @ 4,940803
3 Scotland @ 5,157725
4 NE-England @ 5,52364
5 Norway @ 5,530363
6 Ireland @ 5,548237
7 Welsh @ 5,553939
8 Northern_Ireland @ 5,578761
9 France_NorthWest @ 5,590821
10 FR_Bretagne @ 5,641693
11 Orcadian @ 5,713186
12 France_NorthEast @ 5,773979
13 South_Dutch @ 5,779553
14 British_mixed @ 5,787854
15 Flemish @ 5,816885
16 NW-England @ 5,906252
17 Waloon @ 5,95316
18 North_Dutch @ 5,994254
19 SE_England @ 5,994995
20 German_North @ 6,04086
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SW-England+Welsh @ 4,336243
2 Northern_Ireland+SW-England @ 4,430064
3 Ireland+SW-England @ 4,448067
4 SW-England+NE-England @ 4,455066
5 France_NorthEast+SW-England @ 4,471885
6 South_Dutch+SW-England @ 4,52195
7 Orcadian+SW-England @ 4,601801
8 SW-England+SW-England @ 4,604578
9 FR_Bretagne+SW-England @ 4,612463
10 British_mixed+SW-England @ 4,61416
11 Scotland+SW-England @ 4,641335
12 SW-England+England_Cumberland @ 4,678144
13 Waloon+SW-England @ 4,761678
14 North_Dutch+SW-England @ 4,792728
15 NW-England+SW-England @ 4,825849
16 England_Cumberland+Welsh @ 4,866015
17 Norway+SW-England @ 4,869327
18 France_NorthEast+Norway @ 4,874029
19 Norway+Welsh @ 4,881814
20 FR_Bretagne+Norway @ 4,882501
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SW-England +25% Welsh +25% Welsh @ 4,336243
2 50% SW-England +25% NE-England +25% Welsh @ 4,35835
3 50% SW-England +25% SW-England +25% Welsh @ 4,367838
4 50% SW-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Welsh @ 4,375167
5 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Welsh @ 4,387085
6 50% SW-England +25% Ireland +25% Welsh @ 4,397951
7 50% SW-England +25% South_Dutch +25% Welsh @ 4,403736
8 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% NE-England @ 4,413107
9 50% SW-England +25% North_Dutch +25% Welsh @ 4,414331
10 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% SW-England @ 4,423231
11 50% SW-England +25% Ireland +25% NE-England @ 4,424755
12 50% SW-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% NE-England @ 4,426104
13 50% Northern_Ireland +25% SW-England +25% SW-England @ 4,430064
14 50% SW-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Ireland @ 4,433262
15 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Northern_Ireland @ 4,439295
16 50% SW-England +25% England_Cumberland +25% Welsh @ 4,440272
17 50% SW-England +25% Ireland +25% SW-England @ 4,440538
18 50% SW-England +25% Orcadian +25% Welsh @ 4,444198
19 50% SW-England +25% British_mixed +25% Welsh @ 4,447057
20 50% Ireland +25% SW-England +25% SW-England @ 4,448067
16706519 iterations.

Kingslav
29-07-17, 20:01
No:) You results are British. This iis according to "unofficial" oracle for K36 (337 populations). There is no thread for this on this forum, so I think I can post link. (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10347-(Unofficial)-oracle-for-Eurogenes-K36-256-reference-populations)

Admix4

Least-squares method.


Using 1 population approximation:
1 NE-England @ 8,755375
2 Northern_Ireland @ 10,863925
3 England_Cumberland @ 11,15813
4 British_mixed @ 11,196625
5 Scotland @ 11,790567
6 SE_England @ 12,052649
7 NW-England @ 12,136819
8 Welsh @ 12,399829
9 Orcadian @ 12,399971
10 Flemish @ 12,421038
11 France_NorthEast @ 12,807576
12 Waloon @ 12,965164
13 SW-England @ 13,020133
14 South_Dutch @ 13,070942
15 Ireland @ 13,275472
16 Central_Dutch @ 13,730117
17 Denmark @ 13,745303
18 North_Dutch @ 13,948968
19 German_North @ 14,288769
20 France_NorthWest @ 14,343813
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 NE-England+NE-England @ 8,755375
2 Northern_Ireland+NE-England @ 9,621326
3 France_NorthEast+NE-England @ 9,760849
4 NE-England+England_Cumberland @ 9,772082
5 British_mixed+NE-England @ 9,825754
6 SE_England+NE-England @ 9,928811
7 Waloon+NE-England @ 9,96123
8 Flemish+NE-England @ 9,973526
9 Scotland+NE-England @ 10,05747
10 South_Dutch+NE-England @ 10,075903
11 NW-England+NE-England @ 10,302507
12 NE-England+Welsh @ 10,306563
13 Denmark+NE-England @ 10,357313
14 Orcadian+NE-England @ 10,408509
15 France_NorthEast+North_Dutch @ 10,41192
16 France_NorthEast+Northern_Ireland @ 10,413854
17 Central_Dutch+NE-England @ 10,44167
18 North_Dutch+NE-England @ 10,472422
19 Waloon+Northern_Ireland @ 10,581672
20 Flemish+Northern_Ireland @ 10,622204
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% NE-England @ 8,927352
2 50% NE-England +25% Waloon +25% NE-England @ 9,063877
3 50% NE-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% NE-England @ 9,133485
4 50% NE-England +25% South_Dutch +25% NE-England @ 9,139633
5 50% NE-England +25% Flemish +25% NE-England @ 9,168663
6 50% NE-England +25% SE_England +25% NE-England @ 9,193687
7 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% North_Dutch @ 9,205919
8 50% NE-England +25% NE-England +25% England_Cumberland @ 9,208878
9 50% NE-England +25% British_mixed +25% NE-England @ 9,245797
10 50% NE-England +25% Denmark +25% NE-England @ 9,251217
11 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Northern_Ireland @ 9,261575
12 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Denmark @ 9,264253
13 50% NE-England +25% North_Dutch +25% NE-England @ 9,310114
14 50% NE-England +25% Central_Dutch +25% NE-England @ 9,324863
15 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Norway @ 9,3319
16 50% NE-England +25% Scotland +25% NE-England @ 9,339891
17 50% NE-England +25% Waloon +25% Northern_Ireland @ 9,38754
18 50% NE-England +25% Norway +25% NE-England @ 9,409307
19 50% NE-England +25% German_West +25% NE-England @ 9,424721
20 50% NE-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% British_mixed @ 9,437198
14777447 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 NE-England+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 8,755375
2 France_NorthEast+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 8,927352
3 Waloon+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,063877
4 Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,133485
5 South_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,139633
6 Flemish+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,168663
7 SE_England+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,193687
8 France_NorthEast+North_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,205919
9 NE-England+NE-England+NE-England+England_Cumberland @ 9,208878
10 British_mixed+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,245797
11 Denmark+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,251217
12 France_NorthEast+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,261575
13 France_NorthEast+Denmark+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,264253
14 North_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,310114
15 Central_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,324863
16 France_NorthEast+Norway+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,3319
17 Scotland+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,339891
18 Waloon+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,38754
19 Norway+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,409307
20 German_West+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,424721
21 France_NorthEast+British_mixed+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,437198
22 Waloon+North_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,442549
23 NE-England+NE-England+NE-England+Welsh @ 9,444347
24 German_North+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,451163
25 Sweden+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,475377
26 NW-England+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,483653
27 France_NorthEast+NE-England+NE-England+England_Cumberland @ 9,484723
28 France_NorthEast+Scotland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,493147
29 Flemish+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,496841
30 South_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,502139
31 Waloon+Denmark+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,517942
32 Orcadian+NE-England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,527807
33 France_NorthEast+Northern_Ireland+Denmark+NE-England @ 9,555029
34 France_NorthEast+North_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+NE-England @ 9,560958
35 France_NorthEast+Sweden+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,561009
36 France_NorthEast+Central_Dutch+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,566816
37 Northern_Ireland+SE_England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,56781
38 France_NorthEast+NE-England+NE-England+Welsh @ 9,573952
39 Northern_Ireland+Denmark+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,578203
40 France_NorthEast+SE_England+NE-England+NE-England @ 9,599211
383324240 iterations.


Gaussian method.


Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SW-England @ 4,604578
2 England_Cumberland @ 4,940803
3 Scotland @ 5,157725
4 NE-England @ 5,52364
5 Norway @ 5,530363
6 Ireland @ 5,548237
7 Welsh @ 5,553939
8 Northern_Ireland @ 5,578761
9 France_NorthWest @ 5,590821
10 FR_Bretagne @ 5,641693
11 Orcadian @ 5,713186
12 France_NorthEast @ 5,773979
13 South_Dutch @ 5,779553
14 British_mixed @ 5,787854
15 Flemish @ 5,816885
16 NW-England @ 5,906252
17 Waloon @ 5,95316
18 North_Dutch @ 5,994254
19 SE_England @ 5,994995
20 German_North @ 6,04086
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SW-England+Welsh @ 4,336243
2 Northern_Ireland+SW-England @ 4,430064
3 Ireland+SW-England @ 4,448067
4 SW-England+NE-England @ 4,455066
5 France_NorthEast+SW-England @ 4,471885
6 South_Dutch+SW-England @ 4,52195
7 Orcadian+SW-England @ 4,601801
8 SW-England+SW-England @ 4,604578
9 FR_Bretagne+SW-England @ 4,612463
10 British_mixed+SW-England @ 4,61416
11 Scotland+SW-England @ 4,641335
12 SW-England+England_Cumberland @ 4,678144
13 Waloon+SW-England @ 4,761678
14 North_Dutch+SW-England @ 4,792728
15 NW-England+SW-England @ 4,825849
16 England_Cumberland+Welsh @ 4,866015
17 Norway+SW-England @ 4,869327
18 France_NorthEast+Norway @ 4,874029
19 Norway+Welsh @ 4,881814
20 FR_Bretagne+Norway @ 4,882501
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SW-England +25% Welsh +25% Welsh @ 4,336243
2 50% SW-England +25% NE-England +25% Welsh @ 4,35835
3 50% SW-England +25% SW-England +25% Welsh @ 4,367838
4 50% SW-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Welsh @ 4,375167
5 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Welsh @ 4,387085
6 50% SW-England +25% Ireland +25% Welsh @ 4,397951
7 50% SW-England +25% South_Dutch +25% Welsh @ 4,403736
8 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% NE-England @ 4,413107
9 50% SW-England +25% North_Dutch +25% Welsh @ 4,414331
10 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% SW-England @ 4,423231
11 50% SW-England +25% Ireland +25% NE-England @ 4,424755
12 50% SW-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% NE-England @ 4,426104
13 50% Northern_Ireland +25% SW-England +25% SW-England @ 4,430064
14 50% SW-England +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Ireland @ 4,433262
15 50% SW-England +25% France_NorthEast +25% Northern_Ireland @ 4,439295
16 50% SW-England +25% England_Cumberland +25% Welsh @ 4,440272
17 50% SW-England +25% Ireland +25% SW-England @ 4,440538
18 50% SW-England +25% Orcadian +25% Welsh @ 4,444198
19 50% SW-England +25% British_mixed +25% Welsh @ 4,447057
20 50% Ireland +25% SW-England +25% SW-England @ 4,448067
16706519 iterations.

How I can do this oracles for my K36 result?

Kc93
29-07-17, 20:43
There's obviously more than British, though, if the lowest result is 4+, though, and especially 8+. That's common sense.

Every other calculator shows lower-numbered distances, like how MDLP K23b yields 1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Icelandic_ + Icelandic_ + Orcadian_ 1.045359

Eurogenes won't show anything nearly that low for me. Is MDLP thus more reliable?

Sile
03-08-17, 23:48
my results after removing my maternal data using a phasing system................so below is only my paternal info


Using 1 population approximation:
1 IT_Veneto @ 13.946281
2 IT_North @ 15.281612
3 Swiss_Italian @ 15.786801
4 IT_Piedmont @ 15.979232
5 IT_Aosta @ 16.147973
6 IT_Friuli @ 16.767796
7 IT_Tuscany @ 17.079145
8 Austria_Tyrol @ 17.376762
9 France_Central @ 17.498068
10 Swiss_German @ 18.420885
11 Albania_Montenegro @ 19.981618
12 IT_Marche @ 19.982522
13 FR_Corsica @ 20.408603
14 Kosovo @ 20.428073
15 France @ 20.715199
16 Albania_North @ 20.743475
17 South_Germany @ 20.872456
18 Albania_FYROM @ 21.3256
19 Albania_South @ 21.610696
20 German_West @ 21.651986
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 13.946281
2 IT_North+IT_Veneto @ 14.024402
3 IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian @ 14.096226
4 IT_North+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.337825
5 IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta @ 14.4367
6 IT_Tuscany+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.552076
7 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto @ 14.556051
8 IT_Piedmont+IT_Veneto @ 14.617831
9 IT_Veneto+France_Central @ 14.837164
10 Swiss_Italian+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.843483
11 IT_Tuscany+Swiss_German @ 14.962496
12 IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.97638
13 IT_Tuscany+France_Central @ 14.988807
14 IT_North+Swiss_German @ 15.157841
15 IT_Veneto+IT_Friuli @ 15.196031
16 IT_North+France_Central @ 15.214999
17 IT_Piedmont+Austria_Tyrol @ 15.242817
18 IT_Tuscany+South_Germany @ 15.263788
19 IT_Tuscany+France_NorthWest @ 15.266048
20 IT_North+IT_North @ 15.281612
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto +25% Swiss_Italian @ 13.813466
2 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_North +25% IT_Veneto @ 13.82964
3 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_North +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 13.962316
4 50% IT_North +25% IT_Veneto +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 13.969438
5 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Tuscany +25% IT_Veneto @ 13.977977
6 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_North +25% Swiss_Italian @ 13.996919
7 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Aosta @ 14.023413
8 50% IT_North +25% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto @ 14.024402
9 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Tuscany +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 14.029251
10 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Tuscany +25% France_Central @ 14.051376
11 50% IT_Veneto +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 14.059984
12 50% IT_Veneto +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Swiss_Italian @ 14.096226
13 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_North +25% France_Central @ 14.100459
14 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_North +25% IT_Aosta @ 14.119106
15 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto +25% France_Central @ 14.134013
16 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Tuscany +25% Swiss_Italian @ 14.135126
17 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Aosta +25% Swiss_Italian @ 14.170995
18 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Tuscany +25% IT_Aosta @ 14.183727
19 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Piedmont +25% IT_Veneto @ 14.187346
20 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Central_Dutch @ 14.204486
16429119 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian @ 13.813466
2 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 13.82964
3 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 13.946281
4 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol @ 13.962316
5 IT_North+IT_North+IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol @ 13.969438
6 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 13.977977
7 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian @ 13.996919
8 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta @ 14.023413
9 IT_North+IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 14.024402
10 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.029251
11 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+France_Central @ 14.051376
12 IT_North+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.055572
13 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.059984
14 IT_Tuscany+IT_North+IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.083063
15 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+Swiss_Italian @ 14.096226
16 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+France_Central @ 14.100459
17 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.113677
18 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta @ 14.119106
19 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+France_Central @ 14.134013
20 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian @ 14.135126
21 IT_Tuscany+IT_North+IT_Veneto+Central_Dutch @ 14.170423
22 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta+Swiss_Italian @ 14.170995
23 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta @ 14.183727
24 IT_Piedmont+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 14.187346
25 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Sardinia+Central_Dutch @ 14.198932
26 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Sardinia+Central_Dutch @ 14.204486
27 IT_Tuscany+IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+Central_Dutch @ 14.210309
28 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol+France_Central @ 14.21136
29 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.214242
30 IT_Tuscany+IT_North+IT_North+Central_Dutch @ 14.214712
31 IT_Tuscany+IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 14.216983
32 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Sardinia+Central_Dutch @ 14.222676
33 IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.22909
34 IT_Tuscany+IT_Sardinia+Austria_Tyrol+Central_Dutch @ 14.234815
35 IT_Piedmont+IT_North+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 14.235063
36 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+France_Central @ 14.235924
37 IT_Piedmont+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian @ 14.24047
38 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Austria_Tyrol @ 14.262258
39 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+France_NorthWest @ 14.264299
40 IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+Swiss_Italian+Austria_Tyro l @ 14.266497
455588123 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0.130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 France_Central @ 4.628857
2 IT_Piedmont @ 5.081301
3 IT_Veneto @ 5.087585
4 IT_North @ 5.201924
5 IT_Aosta @ 5.280181
6 Swiss_Italian @ 5.391333
7 IT_Friuli @ 5.628566
8 Swiss_German @ 5.629969
9 Austria_Tyrol @ 5.762672
10 France @ 5.850561
11 France_South @ 5.862328
12 IT_Tuscany @ 5.968219
13 Spain_Aragon @ 6.16882
14 Spain_Catalan @ 6.368161
15 Spain_Galicia @ 6.410699
16 Spain_Andalusia @ 6.540031
17 Albania_Montenegro @ 6.572752
18 Spain_average @ 6.694723
19 South_Germany @ 6.787066
20 Asturia @ 6.81067
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 France_Central+France_Central @ 4.628857
2 IT_Veneto+France_Central @ 4.850312
3 IT_North+France_Central @ 4.858898
4 IT_Piedmont+France_Central @ 4.894394
5 Swiss_Italian+France_Central @ 4.904186
6 IT_Aosta+France_Central @ 4.958376
7 IT_Piedmont+IT_Piedmont @ 5.081301
8 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 5.087585
9 IT_North+IT_Veneto @ 5.111561
10 IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian @ 5.119179
11 IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta @ 5.131307
12 Swiss_German+France_Central @ 5.134353
13 IT_Friuli+France_Central @ 5.136654
14 IT_Piedmont+IT_Veneto @ 5.139783
15 IT_Piedmont+IT_Aosta @ 5.148218
16 IT_Piedmont+IT_North @ 5.148295
17 France_Central+France_South @ 5.151061
18 IT_Piedmont+Swiss_Italian @ 5.176934
19 IT_North+IT_Aosta @ 5.181061
20 IT_North+France_NorthWest @ 5.185194
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% France_Central +25% IT_North +25% France_Central @ 4.738923
2 50% France_Central +25% IT_Veneto +25% France_Central @ 4.744081
3 50% France_Central +25% Swiss_Italian +25% France_Central @ 4.787487
4 50% France_Central +25% IT_Sardinia +25% France_Central @ 4.787822
5 50% France_Central +25% IT_Aosta +25% France_Central @ 4.794643
6 50% France_Central +25% IT_Piedmont +25% France_Central @ 4.800531
7 50% IT_Veneto +25% France_Central +25% France_Central @ 4.850312
8 50% France_Central +25% IT_North +25% IT_Veneto @ 4.856564
9 50% IT_North +25% France_Central +25% France_Central @ 4.858898
10 50% France_Central +25% IT_Piedmont +25% IT_North @ 4.870998
11 50% France_Central +25% Kosovo +25% France_Central @ 4.882648
12 50% France_Central +25% France_Central +25% France_South @ 4.88584
13 50% France_Central +25% IT_North +25% Swiss_Italian @ 4.891646
14 50% France_Central +25% IT_Veneto +25% Swiss_Italian @ 4.893829
15 50% IT_Piedmont +25% France_Central +25% France_Central @ 4.894394
16 50% France_Central +25% IT_Piedmont +25% IT_Veneto @ 4.895621
17 50% France_Central +25% FR_Corsica +25% France_Central @ 4.900022
18 50% France_Central +25% IT_North +25% IT_Aosta @ 4.902822
19 50% France_Central +25% Albania_North +25% France_Central @ 4.903923
20 50% Swiss_Italian +25% France_Central +25% France_Central @ 4.904186
16937733 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 France_Central+France_Central+France_Central+Franc e_Central @ 4.628857
2 IT_North+France_Central+France_Central+France_Cent ral @ 4.738923
3 IT_Veneto+France_Central+France_Central+France_Cen tral @ 4.744081
4 Swiss_Italian+France_Central+France_Central+France _Central @ 4.787487
5 IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Central+France_C entral @ 4.787822
6 IT_Aosta+France_Central+France_Central+France_Cent ral @ 4.794643
7 IT_Piedmont+France_Central+France_Central+France_C entral @ 4.800531
8 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.850312
9 IT_North+IT_Veneto+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.856564
10 IT_North+IT_North+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.858898
11 IT_Piedmont+IT_North+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.870998
12 Kosovo+France_Central+France_Central+France_Centra l @ 4.882648
13 France_Central+France_Central+France_Central+Franc e_South @ 4.88584
14 IT_North+Swiss_Italian+France_Central+France_Centr al @ 4.891646
15 IT_Veneto+Swiss_Italian+France_Central+France_Cent ral @ 4.893829
16 IT_Piedmont+IT_Piedmont+France_Central+France_Cent ral @ 4.894394
17 IT_Piedmont+IT_Veneto+France_Central+France_Centra l @ 4.895621
18 FR_Corsica+France_Central+France_Central+France_Ce ntral @ 4.900022
19 IT_North+IT_Aosta+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.902822
20 Albania_North+France_Central+France_Central+France _Central @ 4.903923
21 Swiss_Italian+Swiss_Italian+France_Central+France_ Central @ 4.904186
22 Swiss_German+France_Central+France_Central+France_ Central @ 4.905004
23 IT_Veneto+IT_Aosta+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.906037
24 IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Central+North_Du tch @ 4.907008
25 IT_Friuli+France_Central+France_Central+France_Cen tral @ 4.911367
26 IT_Piedmont+Swiss_Italian+France_Central+France_Ce ntral @ 4.914283
27 IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Central+South_Du tch @ 4.918777
28 IT_Piedmont+IT_Aosta+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.928473
29 IT_Veneto+IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Centra l @ 4.934313
30 IT_Tuscany+France_Central+France_Central+France_Ce ntral @ 4.934318
31 IT_Aosta+Swiss_Italian+France_Central+France_Centr al @ 4.93474
32 IT_Sardinia+Swiss_German+France_Central+France_Cen tral @ 4.937714
33 IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Central+Central_ Dutch @ 4.941011
34 IT_North+Swiss_German+France_Central+France_Centra l @ 4.941282
35 IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Central+France_N orthWest @ 4.943351
36 IT_Sardinia+German_North+France_Central+France_Cen tral @ 4.950386
37 IT_Sardinia+France_Central+France_Central+SE_Engla nd @ 4.952279
38 IT_North+IT_Sardinia+France_Central+North_Dutch @ 4.952737
39 IT_Aosta+IT_Aosta+France_Central+France_Central @ 4.958376
40 IT_North+France_Central+France_Central+France_Nort hWest @ 4.960731
545896107 iterations.