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Jovialis
07-08-17, 22:33
http://i.imgur.com/WM11s10.png

Here's something I put together, based on this chart, and the areas described in the test in my autosomal results.
Could other people please share the graphics of any region I don't have here. Google images doesn't have anything, and National Geographic hasn't updated their population reference chart since the last version.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...23310_SF5.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjPhFFmLb-4
This girl talks about her autosomal breakdown. In it she discusses her Western Mediterranean and Jewish diaspora components.

Salento
08-08-17, 01:56
9008
You alredy have Italy & SE, and Eastern Europe.

Jovialis
08-08-17, 02:05
9008
You alredy have Italy & SE, and Eastern Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/fCgkvIP.png

For some reason, I can't seem to see the picture.

Salento
08-08-17, 02:15
Try to login again, anyway is show just Iberia, ( Spain and Portugal), not Africa, not France, or Sardinia.


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Salento
08-08-17, 02:57
9009
tried with Laptop, hope it works, sorry.

Jovialis
08-08-17, 03:07
9009
tried with Laptop, hope it works, sorry.

It worked, thanks a lot! I'll update it.

Jovialis
08-08-17, 03:29
http://i.imgur.com/WM11s10.png

Here's the update.

Now, all I need are:

Asia Minor
Jewish Diaspora
Western Mediterranean

Salento
08-08-17, 03:37
NG specify the areas Southwestern Europe and Western Mediterranean.



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Jovialis
16-08-17, 21:18
http://i.imgur.com/L73yUlr.png

http://i.imgur.com/89ruN3Y.png

Here are screen caps of the Jewish Diaspora and West Mediterranean components, that I took from this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjPhFFmLb-4).

Jovialis
16-08-17, 21:26
http://i.imgur.com/kjmtdkl.png

Here's an updated version.

kingjohn
18-08-17, 16:34
very different from geno2 next international { my origins 1.0 }
i mean refrences populations used and the algorithm are very different in the girl video
we can see that her total dna match fit are :
german { but the german refernce score 16% jewish diaspora}
tuscan { the tuscan reference score 15% eastern europe }
wierd
but cool anyway
thanks for sharing her video
regards
Adam

Jovialis
18-08-17, 21:29
http://i.imgur.com/lhgeZ6Nl.png
http://i.imgur.com/SmgU5oDl.png

Took a screen cap of these from this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdvT66ob68I)on youtube.


http://i.imgur.com/XI1ftLY.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q2c5c8E.png

These are screen caps I took from this business insider review (http://www.businessinsider.com/what-the-national-geographic-geno-20-ancestry-test-with-helix-is-like-2017-3/#the-reference-populations-threw-me-off-too-german-dutch-where-was-this-coming-from-vilar-said-the-reference-populations-gave-me-a-snapshot-of-how-similar-i-am-to-people-alive-today-living-in-certain-countries-matching-my-family-history-wasnt-necessarily-the-point-13) of the product. Initially, they used orange for the Northwestern European component. Now it is dark blue.

http://i.imgur.com/rc12yzO.png
http://i.imgur.com/qRLKXpx.png
http://i.imgur.com/hke2jOs.png

These were from the reference populations from my results. I wrote in the (Bari region) part though, in paint. Also, I'm only one person, so it's not a definitive representation of the area.

I guess the reference populations don't necessarily reflect every person in those respective regions. In the case of Greece, some areas would have less Eastern European, and more southern European.


very different from

geno2 next international { my origins 1.0 }
i mean refrences populations used and the algorithm are very different in the girl video
we can see that her total dna match fit are :
german { but the german refernce score 16% jewish diaspora}
tuscan { the tuscan reference score 15% eastern europe }
wierd
but cool anyway
thanks for sharing her video
regards
Adam

I believe it was because the process was different. The old way was with genotyping, and the new version is done with sequencing.

Jovialis
07-09-17, 21:32
https://i.imgur.com/pZLhtp8.png

Here's an updated version of the Regional populations, represented on the modern PCA chart.

Salento
15-11-17, 21:54
Some updates for the Raw Data. Before Year End?
https://twitter.com/my_helix/status/928679680219136000

Jovialis
15-11-17, 22:12
That's interesting, it will be about 80 GBs of raw data.

However, I wonder what programs will even be compatible with it.

Salento
15-11-17, 22:31
That's interesting, it will be about 80 GBs of raw data.

However, I wonder what programs will even be compatible with it.

Or, maybe the Download, will be Limited to the Geno 2 Helix Results.
We’ll see. Hope is free, but probably not.

Salento
25-11-17, 04:45
NatGeo Helix Raw Data is now downloadable.
To get it click the Icon next to your name + “My Profile”.
Issue with Gedmatch Genesis. For Now.

Jovialis
25-11-17, 07:52
NatGeo Helix Raw Data is now downloadable.
To get it click the Icon next to your name + “My Profile”.
Issue with Gedmatch Genesis. For Now.

Awesome! thanks for the heads up.

Dumidre
13-12-17, 19:19
NatGeo Helix Raw Data is now downloadable.
To get it click the Icon next to your name + “My Profile”.
Issue with Gedmatch Genesis. For Now.

I’ve downloaded mine. Any suggestions how to interpret it. It’s not compatible with gedmatch or myheritage...
Thanks


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Salento
13-12-17, 20:02
I’ve downloaded mine. Any suggestions how to interpret it. It’s not compatible with gedmatch or myheritage...
Thanks


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It seems that the Raw Data is partially incomplete, and the format is incompatible with the mainstream companies. I hope that NatGeo Helix fix the problem.

Salento
31-12-17, 06:05
Geno2 Helix iPhone app is on the AppStore. (Includes a personalized Video too)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171231/d68fb33dd3be2aa3e1b90f7851d2cf1d.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171231/cd42d3ba4af28407144e058d61f1ac53.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171231/bc874a91622f59220734bd41962df0cc.jpg

Salento
14-01-18, 19:48
Geno2 Helix iPhone app is on the AppStore. (Includes a personalized Video too)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171231/d68fb33dd3be2aa3e1b90f7851d2cf1d.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171231/cd42d3ba4af28407144e058d61f1ac53.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171231/bc874a91622f59220734bd41962df0cc.jpg

Here is the video from the Geno 2.0 Helix App.
https://vimeo.com/251049199

Hilary
22-01-18, 00:21
Are there any updates to when the raw data will be complete? Or at the very least when a program will be able to analyze the current available data?

Salento
10-07-18, 16:05
1st Reference Population: Tuscan (Italy)

2nd Reference Population: Greek

http://i.imgur.com/9qvkRiY.jpg

(Updated :) )

Sile
10-07-18, 19:36
1st Reference Population: Tuscan (Italy)
2nd Reference Population: Greek
http://i.imgur.com/9qvkRiY.jpg
(Updated :) )
I am still
1st preference German
2nd preference Tuscan
.
my Neanderthal stayed at 1.5, but my Denisovan went from 3.1 to 3.3

Salento
10-07-18, 19:58
I am still
1st preference German
2nd preference Tuscan
.
my Neanderthal stayed at 1.5, but my Denisovan went from 3.1 to 3.3

At NatGeo my Neanderthal is 1.4%.
I wasn’t assigned any Denisovan.

Salento
12-03-19, 17:09
Slight difference between the Website and the App.

http://i.imgur.com/iXsnDQk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vtWl3VX.jpg

Pan
10-04-19, 19:29
Got my Geno 2.0 (Helix) results today:

Regional Ancestry (500 Years to 10,000 Years Ago):

- Asia Minor: 27%
- Eastern Europe: 26%
- Italy & Southern Europe: 23%
- Southwestern Europe: 9%
- West Mediterranean: 8%
- Northwestern Europe: 6%

First Reference Population: Greek
Second Reference Population: Northern Caucasian (Russia)

Deep Ancestry (1,000 Years - 100,000 Years Ago):

MATERNAL LINE: U3B2A (<0.1%)
PATERNAL LINE: I-L702 (0.1%)

Hominin Ancestry (50,000 Years Ago & Older)

Neanderthal: 1.4% (vs 2.1% Avg.)

Genius Matches:

45,000-25,000 years ago:

Paternal matches:
- Leo Tolstoy
- Nikola Tesla
- Alexander Hamilton
- Martin Luther

65,000-45,000 years ago:

Paternal and maternal matches:
- Abraham Lincoln
- Nicolas Copernicus
- Richard III

Paternal matches:
- Petrarch
- Genghis Khan
- Charles Darwin
- Thomas Jefferson
- King Tut
- Sir Francis Drake

Maternal matches:
- Queen Victoria
- Benjamin Franklin
- Marie Antoinette
- Napoleon
- Maria Theresa
- Jesse James

120,000-65,000 years ago:

Paternal matches:
- Napoleon
- Ramses II / Ramesses the Great

Salento
04-05-19, 06:23
Genius Matches 🧬 (La Famiglia):

Outlaw Genius - Jesse James (cool) 😏 | Napoleon twice, Lincoln, Jefferson, Queen Victoria, Benjamin Franklin, Hamilton, Nikola Tesla, Charles Darwin, Copernicus. King Tut, Genghis Khan, Marie Antoinette, ....

https://i.imgur.com/uhvgUD4.jpg

Selena
05-05-21, 20:50
Great video and great analitic programme very informative. Thanks l believe also Nat Geo can handle this issue.

Salento
06-05-21, 05:54
Great video and great analitic programme very informative. Thanks l believe also Nat Geo can handle this issue.

Thanks Selena, ... though the NatGeo site has been closed.

The NatGeo based video below is a Tribute to our Ancestors, and even if it contains my results, more or less, symbolically they represent the results of many of us :)


https://youtu.be/iy7RLVyCJOg

Selena
06-05-21, 09:41
Thank you indeed. Great sharing again!