Guess/classify my ethnicity (I have a lot of data on my Y and X DNA and autosomal!)

Bollox79

Regular Member
Messages
47
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Y-DNA haplogroup
U106/DF98/S4004
mtDNA haplogroup
T2b2b
Hello! I figured I would do this for fun again (I might have done this a while ago on this forum - can't remember) as I have much more detail on my Y and X DNA and also autosomal DNA since last time. I have done Big Y and STR 111 at FTDNA - and also I know my X-DNA haplogroup and also have plenty of detail on my autosomal matches per FTDNA family finder, which provided me with many 3rd-5th cousin matches from certain parts of the world ;). I am American by birth so I consider that my nationality, but not my ethnicity/culture... that has to do more with my DNA etc. Of course let me say I respect everyone's results/culture as long as they respect mine. I do not believe in using DNA in a negative way (aka saying one person is better than another)... as I believe it is very personal and about the individual carrying on the traditions/culture of their ancestors, and not putting other people down. That said here we go... take your best guess - as I have already done that K36 component and computed the map and have my best match per population etc ;). I tried to get pictures that show facial features and not too much facial hair as that covers up the features?I also have some very interesting albeit old matches per my Y-DNA SNPs discovered through Big Y with some skeletons dug out of the ground!! More on that later if you take a guess ;). If you want I'll return the favor, but I'm not the best at guessing. 1957865_10100583036143050_8325105541357313292_o.jpg10872967_10100583035728880_5596529653907849653_o.jpg11896023_10100768480710650_2196704650612156602_n.jpg13501896_10154946279785299_7316409574742972938_n.jpg
 
P.S. I turned off my ethnicity/bio bit so you can't look at it :).
 
I would say South France.

Second guess Spanish, third Italian.

You give me a Med vibe, but not an Eastern one.

Sent from my Robin using Tapatalk
 
I'd classify you as 100 percent lifter. Your arms and shoulders are huge!
 
me too

West Mediterean mainly

Spaniard, Francais and maybe Italian
 
I'd classify you as 100 percent lifter. Your arms and shoulders are huge!

Hah you caught on to that?!? That pic was when I lost a bit of weight actually... helped a friend move out West here in the States! I used to weight about 220 and that was from a combo of doing Olympic style weightlifting when I was younger (though it took a toll on the knee tendons) and then power lifting (NOT body building) and then hard labor swinging sledge hammers and digging a lot of holes and shoveling stone in the excavating business! Here are a few pictures of a really fun day at work and then flexing after work while I was drinking my stout beer at home :). Any guesses on my ethnic background/mix? View attachment 9028View attachment 9029View attachment 9030
 
I'd classify you as 100 percent lifter. Your arms and shoulders are huge!

Here is another being goofy at work... though now I move furniture and drive those big trucks - my paternal line has done that for at least 5 generations (I'm 5th generation furniture man). I don't take it that seriously, but I feel as a man I should be fit and able to do hard work... but that has a lot to do with my background and upbringing (and genetics???) as I have a ton of farmers, laborers and soldiers in my ancestry. I don't hold that to everyone though as people are very varied in their personalities and backgrounds and that it was makes this stuff interesting... if everyone was like me it would be a boring world! View attachment 9031
 
Thanks for the guesses so far guys... getting those West med comments are interesting... and I think I have a theory about that phenotype showing up where a lot of my 3rd-5th cousins come from... if that gives you a clue... though as an American I have 5th cousins from interesting areas... anymore guesses?!? I'm interested in phenotypes... and how they can show up in different areas of the world...

Some more clues perhaps... these are pictures of my Mom's family. The one of the old guy with the cane is my 2nd GGF... the old photo of the guy with the big tie is my Mom's Grandmother's father, the picture of the guy in the frame is my Mom's Uncle and the picture of the guy with glasses is Mom's Uncles Brother aka her Dad ;). View attachment 9032View attachment 9033View attachment 9034View attachment 9035
 
I can not open attached
 
Ahh crap I was afraid of that... let me try again... I was logged in so I don't know why it didn't show up like in the first post! View attachment 9040View attachment 9041View attachment 9042

Nope they are showing up when I post them, but then when I check here they don't. Am I only allowed a certain number or pics or something?
 
ok now they are showing up... but not if I only do a "quick reply." Hmm... anyway those four guys are my Mom's relatives - my 2nd GGF, my Mother's father's mother's father... her uncle and his brother/her father (the guy with glasses).
 
These are my paternal line - Great Grandfather... Grandfather... father in the football picture12345449_934717983232089_2185398367037128175_n.jpg12360073_934718793232008_927495743810995790_n.jpg12391320_934718459898708_1739049628285691225_n.jpg
 
My response to Davef was supposed to have these pictures in it! 1013792_540419585995266_1746067174_n.jpg1167329_557910050912886_779042471_o.jpg1557702_618269171543640_1505746970_n.jpg
 
well I prefer that rock to be a fish same size :grin:

anyway in your ancestors 4 first photos i do not see the W Meditterenean characteristics,
they look more Northen

in the other 3 there is some,

BTW are a swiss origin?
 
German/English
 
I figure I ought to let the cat out of the bag... :)... have you guys had your autosomal done yet? If so have you done the K36 on gedmatch and entered it into that map creator? I think a lot of you were pretty close... well I figure there is a Western Med phenotype in the Isles...? Here is my map I made with my autosomal and it does in fact mirror my foreign cousin list from FTDNA.

P.S. the four ancestors were all Gaelic Irish and Scots Highlander from Upper State New York and Ontario (I have 4th and 5th cousins of Highland and Hebrides descent and lots in areas of Canada where Highlanders settled such as Cape Breton, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland to name a few... in addition to my Mom's Grandmother's family being Gaelic Irish (McGuire) from Ontario. My Grandfather (the one with glasses), the old man with the cane and the guy in the frame were all O'Dwyers (O'Duibhirs in Irish) and going by my autosomal clustering... they are very likely to be direct descendants of the O'Dwyers of Kilnamanagh of Tipperary in SW Ireland... a famous rebel family. I have a 4th-5th cousin from New South Wales who is a direct descendant of the famous Wicklow rebel Michael Dwyer. My 3rd GGF Philip O'Dwyer and Nora (Leonara) O'Dwyer both have names very common in the family from Tipperary - a Philip O'Dwyer was in fact the last Chief of that family etc... and Leonara was a name of one of the early O'Dwyer Chief's wife. They were usually from the Butler family or another allied family and I still have links to the Butler family in Ireland showing up in my autosomal results!

The three men, my GGF, Grandfather and father were a mixture of Scots-Irish and German/Dutch from Eastern Pennsylvania. My Great Grandfather's mother was a Scottish Ferguson (I still get 4th-5th cousin matches with Fergusons from Scotland and Australia)and the Fergusons probably spent a generation or two in Northern Ireland near Donegal and he married a woman named Ninevah Burd. Her family was from Orminston in East Lothian, Scotland.

Mainly my 3rd-5th cousin matches tend to be Scots, Irish (have a 3rd cousin from Ireland) or a mixture of both groups in Northern Ireland (have a 3rd cousin there too). I also get a few 5th cousins matches from Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Northern Germany/Prussia. A few Russian/Slavic 5th cousins are from my Father's Mother's Mother's Father's family who were Germans who were possibly Volga Germans (Germans in Russia).

My mtDNA group is T2b2b which is most common in Ireland and then Scotland and the rest of the Isles and matched up with my paper trail.

My Y-chromosome research has some old matches, but cool ones. My modern matches only match me at a few more SNPs then this guy 6drif-3 (so my matches are just really old). He is one of the "headless Gladiators" from the Driffield Terrace cemetery SW of York, England. 6drif-3 and his kinsman (same Y-chromosome group of U106 - Z381 - Z156 - Z304) 3drif-16 were tested by Dan Bradley with those other skeletons from Driffield Terrace. I share these SNPs with 6drif-3: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z304/306-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817

Here is my map... View attachment 9054
 

This thread has been viewed 9474 times.

Back
Top