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bicicleur
15-11-17, 11:50
the official version of the western coalition is that a few Syrian IS fighters were allowed to leave Raqqa, without arms
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/14/last-isis-fighters-in-raqqa-seek-deal-to-leave-former-capital-in-syria
The coalition estimated earlier this week that 300 to 400 militants remained in the city. On Friday, a local official said an estimated about 100 militants had surrendered.
“They [Isis] have 400 hostages with them – women and children – in the national hospital,” Alloush told AFP.
The US-led coalition backing the SDF’s drive for Raqqa had announced the deal earlier on Saturday but said it would exclude foreign Isis fighters. However, Alloush insisted the agreement included non-Syrian jihadists.
According to this video, truck drivers and a family living on the road with a shop witnessed there were 4000 fully armed ISIS fighters, including foreigners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4KLrQKJn3c
it is expected that these foreign fighters will dissapear in anonymity and strike terror whenever the occasion occurs

Angela
15-11-17, 17:05
the official version of the western coalition is that a few Syrian IS fighters were allowed to leave Raqqa, without arms
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/14/last-isis-fighters-in-raqqa-seek-deal-to-leave-former-capital-in-syria
The coalition estimated earlier this week that 300 to 400 militants remained in the city. On Friday, a local official said an estimated about 100 militants had surrendered.
“They [Isis] have 400 hostages with them – women and children – in the national hospital,” Alloush told AFP.
The US-led coalition backing the SDF’s drive for Raqqa had announced the deal earlier on Saturday but said it would exclude foreign Isis fighters. However, Alloush insisted the agreement included non-Syrian jihadists.
According to this video, truck drivers and a family living on the road with a shop witnessed there were 4000 fully armed ISIS fighters, including foreigners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4KLrQKJn3c
it is expected that these foreign fighters will dissapear in anonymity and strike terror whenever the occasion occurs

Well, 400 or 4,000, we can expect to hear from them again. What a good idea!

You couldn't make this level of stupidity up.

davef
15-11-17, 17:42
Did they count all "4000"?

LeBrok
15-11-17, 17:50
I've seen it on BBC. Do we know where they went and hiding now?
I have no idea why a deal like this is done, just to move the problem from Raqqa to other town in Syria?

Promenade
15-11-17, 18:41
Unfortunately this is not the first time this has happened and perhaps it won't be the last, in fact it has been a norm through out the war to load militants up on buses and move them somewhere else. FSA and SDF would make deals with ISIS and move them to Deir ez Zor meanwhile the SAA would do the same and move them to Idlib. They do this supposedly to prevent villages and cities from further destruction and potential loss of life, but it's fairly obvious to see they are just shoving ISIS militants on other rival factions hoping to knock out two birds with one stone.

davef
15-11-17, 18:54
Their rationale: its better to have them kill off x amount of innocents in city a than city b

Angela
15-11-17, 22:32
Too cute by half, imo. I totally understand "divide and conquer", but you never know how these kinds of things will work out. There's too much opportunity for unintended consequences. Look how well it turned out when we armed the Afghanis to keep Russia mired down in Asia. Just freaking kill them while you have them in your power; they've shown they deserve no better.

Sorry if that sounds bloodthirsty, but the amount of suffering and death they've unleashed on the people of the Middle East, with ripple effects all the way to Europe, has to be stopped once and for all, and everybody needs an object lesson that this will not be tolerated.

If they're not lucky they're going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

exceededminimumso..
15-11-17, 23:45
Too cute by half, imo. I totally understand "divide and conquer", but you never know how these kinds of things will work out. There's too much opportunity for unintended consequences. Look how well it turned out when we armed the Afghanis to keep Russia mired down in Asia. Just freaking kill them while you have them in your power; they've shown they deserve no better.

Sorry if that sounds bloodthirsty, but the amount of suffering and death they've unleashed on the people of the Middle East, with ripple effects all the way to Europe, has to be stopped once and for all, and everybody needs an object lesson that this will not be tolerated.

If they're not lucky they're going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

"Um, phrasing?" ISIS agent

davef
16-11-17, 00:56
"Um, phrasing?" ISIS agent
i don't know what you mean

bicicleur
16-11-17, 08:54
Their rationale: its better to have them kill off x amount of innocents in city a than city b

city a was already done
there was not much left to kill or destroy

bicicleur
16-11-17, 08:56
Too cute by half, imo. I totally understand "divide and conquer", but you never know how these kinds of things will work out. There's too much opportunity for unintended consequences. Look how well it turned out when we armed the Afghanis to keep Russia mired down in Asia. Just freaking kill them while you have them in your power; they've shown they deserve no better.

Sorry if that sounds bloodthirsty, but the amount of suffering and death they've unleashed on the people of the Middle East, with ripple effects all the way to Europe, has to be stopped once and for all, and everybody needs an object lesson that this will not be tolerated.

If they're not lucky they're going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I totally agree.
It is some kind of cowardess not to acknowledge that.

Yetos
20-11-17, 11:09
really wonder why?
what for?
where they gone?
why heavy army equipment carried?