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It seems like the ex Yugoslavian republic of Makedonia
is turning the page,
and enters in a new climate with Greece and NATO and Europe,

the story is old from early 1900's
Makedonian struggle,
A and B Balkanic wars
WWI
WW2
Greek civil war
Cold war era
Perstroika
Disband of ex-Yugoslavian federation
etc


the problem until today is that Greece would never recogn a country
that carries a toponym that is connected to its history and territory.
also some movements created by the International Communist comittee
and G. Dimitrov
(Greek resistance against AXIS, and civil war times, and the role of Balkanic countries and Communist International, Blend treaty etc)

A composite synthetic name was in discuss for 20 years,
Fyrom suggested the term Nova Makedonia Νεα Μακεδονια
but was rejected by Greeks
Greece offered the term Slavic Makedonia (ΣλαβοΜακεδονια)
But was rejected by Skopjie,

but it seems the fear of Amber Fox 2
brings a solution from the other side of Atlantic ocean

the new name proposal is Central Balkanic Democracy
is after M.Nimetz, Βασιλακης, Naumofski plans
as also a treaty for energy, liquid gas, etc

soon will be discussed in both parliaments,
and will know more,
 
Next Problem: How do we call people in there ?
 
Paeonia

thats where the ancient Paeonians lived

The exact original boundaries of Paeonia, like the early history of its inhabitants, are obscure, but it is known that it was located immediately north of ancient Macedonia (which corresponded roughly to the modern Greek region of Macedonia),
 
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Any population exchange like Greek did with Turks and Bulgarians or Macedonian Exodus. Because Even in Greek Macedonia you can see signification Macedonian population, but they are not now.
 

i Suggest you read my previous posts in threads about Makedonian Issue
and modern aproaches of population,

The Communistic era propaganda is over
search the net about this

https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Αποστολή_παιδιών_στις_Λαϊκές_Δημοκρατίες_από_τον_ΔΣΕ


and the end of Greek civil war,
and the collapse of Communistic Idea from >25% to 6%.

as also the Monasterion Greeks,

the exchange had happened, silently
through other events,

if a new excange will happened to Europe
that will be with other Balcanic democracies.

the game of Communism expansion through Panslavism is over,
expessed by G Dimitrov leader of Communist International is over.
as also the game of PanTurkism via Ottomans


PS
search about exchange of population in the mail I send you.

Beside Boreas
the old plan has collapse
Think what will happen iF erdogan gets a No at Thursday.
 
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The Communistic era propaganda is over

I didn't get it


It sounds another movie topic :grin:

the game of Communism expansion through Panslavism is over,
expessed by G Dimitrov leader of Communist International is over.
as also the game of PanTurkism via Ottomans

Which era are we in?

search about exchange of population in the mail I send you.

I started, but I couldn't finished :unhappy: , now I am in abroad for work. Actually my company works for a Greek company in this project.


Beside Boreas
the old plan has collapse

:confused:

Think what will happen iF erdogan gets a No at Thursday.

Very useless meeting, if you mean Erdoğan Athens visit. Time lost for both leaders.
 
I started, but I couldn't finished :unhappy: , now I am in abroad for work. Actually my company works for a Greek company in this project.


Very useless meeting, if you mean Erdoğan Athens visit. Time lost for both leaders.

which project? exchenge of populations? or back to Communism

No I found it very realistic and very true,
especially the next one at Belingrand,

the perfect landing for both.
and not only.
the perfect landing for many
 
why is name so important?
I guess that it is about teritorial claims...
Bosniaks and Kosovars are for instance newly created nation names used to give taste of being more autochtonous than other people in Bosnia and Kosovo, but Serbia didnot oppose usage of those names ...
 
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As it seems negotiations are very hard,
and Greece might even driven to elections for that.
preesure and -reactions are very very strong.

ps
time to get out of the case and furnish and polish my grandfather's gun.


back to EU directiva of 16 Dec 1991
and not a step away from them even if USA (Nimetz) wants it desperatly
 
I laughed hard :LOL: One of the best example how silly this conflict is.

The European voice • 15 hours ago
If FOPOG (the former Ottoman province of Greece ) continues to bully Macedonia to change its name, the latter should perhaps consider to rename it "Republic of Alexander the Great".
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/rightists-mobilize-against-macedonia-name-talks-01-05-2018


BTW it is really shame on Turkey. There is no any words about this conversations. Turkey has already locked to 2019 elections.
 
hahahaI 've read about a new magazine,the domino effect grows moresoon we will see more,since Skopjie ask land from Albania,it is not the 18 rocks only, but a confuzzio.I think the whole case is just a 'finger' of great powers to create mess.
 
I think the whole case is just a 'finger' of great powers to create mess.
I don't think that a foreign finger needed. The Nations of Balkans so deeply hurt each other so they have enough material to fight till the doomsday.
 
Finally the Orthodox Albanians of Macedonia are becoming more active and aware recently and that should create more problems for that country. So far they had it easy by dealing only with Muslim Albanians.
 
at 19 JAN
the names will be known

as it seems 5 names are on discuss

NovoMacendonski
North Macedonia
Central Balkanic Democracy
Bardaria
Bardar Macedonia
 
a brief history through videos and wiki

the myths of central core of Aimos pninsula

Alexandros Μακεδων



Βασιλειος ο Βουλγαροκτονος Basil the 2nd (East) Roman emperror
from Βασιλειος ο A ο Μακεδων (Makedonian Dynasty, to some Armenian but I believe there is a misundersting and probably Armanian or Amorian (Amorium) since after Leon 5th the Armenian a big diefference for the icons was on)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHapUF_AoNY

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tsar Samuel (
emperror of Sclavinia, Ioannes Diakones chronicles, Venetian diplomat)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_of_Bulgaria

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tsar Symeon of Bulgaria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijSzIyiXwVQ

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Tsar Dusan of Serbia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nKTSYintag

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the rape of History 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bled_agreement_(1947)
(also referred to as the "Tito–Dimitrov treaty")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYzphUGI5g
 
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