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Angela
08-12-17, 17:20
This is another Kilinc paper.

See: Kilinc et al
"Archaeogenomic analysis of the first steps of Neolithization in Anatolia and the Aegean"http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064

"The Neolithic transition in west Eurasia occurred in two main steps: the gradual development of sedentism and plant cultivation in the Near East and the subsequent spread of Neolithic cultures into the Aegean and across Europe after 7000 cal BCE. Here, we use published ancient genomes to investigate gene flow events in west Eurasia during the Neolithic transition. We confirm that the Early Neolithic central Anatolians in the ninth millennium BCE were probably descendants of local hunter–gatherers, rather than immigrants from the Levant or Iran. We further study the emergence of post-7000 cal BCE north Aegean Neolithic communities. Although Aegean farmers have frequently been assumed to be colonists originating from either central Anatolia or from the Levant, our findings raise alternative possibilities: north Aegean Neolithic populations may have been the product of multiple westward migrations, including south Anatolian emigrants, or they may have been descendants of local Aegean Mesolithic groups who adopted farming. These scenarios are consistent with the diversity of material cultures among Aegean Neolithic communities and the inheritance of local forager know-how. The demographic and cultural dynamics behind the earliest spread of Neolithic culture in the Aegean could therefore be distinct from the subsequent Neolithization of mainland Europe."

These are quite some conclusions, given the modeling by the Reich Lab and others that Anatolia Neolithic contained Levant Neolithic.

Also, we've speculated here on this site if perhaps the people in mainland Paleolithic and Mesolithic Greece and the Aegean islands as well were already very much like the Early Anatolia farmers and so the amount of actual migration might not be as high as proposed.

For both reasons I really want to actually read the paper! So annoying. If anyone knows of a link to it, please post and much thanks for trying to find it if you do.

Pax Augusta
08-12-17, 18:09
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064.long

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http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064.full.pdf



Supplementary Information Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/0/rspb20172064supp1.pdf) - Supplementary Figures
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/7/rspb20172064supp2.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S1
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/8/rspb20172064supp3.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S2
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/9/rspb20172064supp4.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S3
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/10/rspb20172064supp5.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S4
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/11/rspb20172064supp6.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S5
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/12/rspb20172064supp7.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S6
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/13/rspb20172064supp8.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S7
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/14/rspb20172064supp9.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S8
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/1/rspb20172064supp10.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S9
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/2/rspb20172064supp11.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S10
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/3/rspb20172064supp12.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S11
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/4/rspb20172064supp13.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S12
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/5/rspb20172064supp14.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S13
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/6/rspb20172064supp15.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S14



http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064.figures-only

Angela
08-12-17, 18:22
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064.long

full text not working

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064.full.pdf



Supplementary Information Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/0/rspb20172064supp1.pdf) - Supplementary Figures
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/7/rspb20172064supp2.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S1
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/8/rspb20172064supp3.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S2
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/9/rspb20172064supp4.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S3
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/10/rspb20172064supp5.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S4
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/11/rspb20172064supp6.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S5
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/12/rspb20172064supp7.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S6
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/13/rspb20172064supp8.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S7
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/14/rspb20172064supp9.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S8
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/1/rspb20172064supp10.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S9
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/2/rspb20172064supp11.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S10
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/3/rspb20172064supp12.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S11
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/4/rspb20172064supp13.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S12
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/5/rspb20172064supp14.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S13
Supplementary Data Kilinc et al 2017 (http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/highwire/filestream/78347/field_highwire_adjunct_files/6/rspb20172064supp15.xlsx) - Supplementary Table S14



http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1867/20172064.figures-only

Thanks, Pax. I'm going to try to read it later today or tonight. Still annoying that this journal still always puts the actual papers behind a pay wall.

IronSide
08-12-17, 18:28
There was also Y-dna E1b1b in Neolithic Europe, which was found in Natufians and Levant Neolithic, this is consistent with the Reich lab model.

Pax Augusta
08-12-17, 18:28
Di niente, Angela.

https://i.imgur.com/UsXdGye.jpg

I1a3_Young
15-12-17, 15:10
I'm sure there would be some E1b1b but the majority that spread to Europe was G2a. There was probably some movement from Neolithic Levant to Neolithic Anatolia but how much could simply be shared genetics in those populations to begin with?

IronSide
15-12-17, 15:33
I'm sure there would be some E1b1b but the majority that spread to Europe was G2a. There was probably some movement from Neolithic Levant to Neolithic Anatolia but how much could simply be shared genetics in those populations to begin with?

You're right, it could be shared ancestry, E1b1b were Natufian hunter-gatherers before they were agriculturists, maybe some went to Anatolia before agriculture spread there, that's possible.

Angela
10-01-18, 16:21
The full paper has now been published:
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royprsb/284/1867/20172064.full.pdf