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Jovialis
23-12-17, 05:21
http://www.newsweek.com/thousands-ancient-artifacts-seized-during-smuggling-operation-756262

In the largest raid of its kind, police in Turkey seized thousands of ancient artifacts dating back to various eras from Greek, Egyptian and Anatolian civilizations, officers announced on Thursday.

Security officers had kept an eye on the smuggling network for three months, suspecting that the participants were attempting to sell the ancient items abroad, Reuters reported. Then on December 12, they launched their first operation—called “Operation Zeus”—that resulted in the capture of 19 suspects, according to the Daily Sabah, a Turkish newspaper.

Among the 26,456 artifacts recovered, many were ancient coins. Other notable items were a 3,000-year-old Mycenaean sword, a queen’s crown marked with golden leaves and an illustration of Helios.

“The retrieved artifacts… [are] more valuable than the artifacts in the inventory of an average-size museum,” Istanbul police said in a statement.

The items—which were found across four Turkish cities—will be given to the Istanbul Museum of Archaeology.

Security sources believe the suspects were trying to take the objects to other countries and sell them to museums for millions. Illegally smuggling, trading and selling such ancient treasures has long been a problem in Turkey—a country filled with rich history resulting from its many storied civilizations and ancient cities.

Over the past decade and a half, there has been an uptick in antique gold coins exported to the U.S. from Turkey, according to a 2016 investigation by Live Science. During a 13-year-period—1989 to 2002—about 2.5 pounds of antique gold coins were exported from Turkey to the U.S. Then in 2003, the year the Iraq War started, the number began to rise. Between 2003 and 2010, 57 pounds were exported. It rose even higher over the next six years, jumping to 112 pounds between 2011 and July 2016. From 2003 until 2016, the U.S. Census Bureau estimated $283 million of artifacts made their way from Turkey to the U.S. It’s unknown exactly what caused the surge, but looting is suspected.

“It is extremely difficult to prove that any single artifact that arrives in the U.S. has been looted,” Erin Thompson, a professor of art crime at the City University of New York, told Live Science. “Middlemen are experts in making looted and smuggled antiquities look like they are part of the legitimate market by cleaning and restoring them and creating forged paperwork that makes it seem like Egypt gave permission for its export.”

Like Turkey, Egypt is also experiencing an increase in artifact exports. In late 2016, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) conducted a multiyear investigation that led to the return of an ancient mummy hand to the Egyptian Embassy. Between 2007 and 2016, ICE has found and returned more than 7,800 artifacts to more than 30 countries, according to a statement from the agency.

It truly upsets me to see such priceless artifacts stolen, and probably irreparably damaged in the process of smuggling. I would prosecute the smugglers to the fullest extent of the law.

Lenab
23-12-17, 05:39
It truly upsets me to see such priceless artifacts stolen, and probably irreparably damaged in the process of smuggling. I would prosecute the smugglers to the fullest extent of the law.
A lot of indo European artifacts are still in Turkey like the Hittites. The whole thing there is a shambles but this doesn't surprise me just Neo Turkish behaviour, yet again.

davef
23-12-17, 05:46
A lot of indo European artifacts are still in Turkey like the Hittite artifacts. The whole thing there is a shambles but this doesn't surprise me just Neo Turkish behaviour, yet again.
I don't see you lasting very long here.

Lenab
23-12-17, 05:57
I don't see you lasting very long here.
Western Turkey/Constantinople was the capital of the Byzantine Empire Turks in Turkey have no right to steal those artifacts

Angela
23-12-17, 06:40
No one is permitted to insult other ethnicities here. Keep your political grudges to yourselves. IT IS AGAINST THE RULES no matter what group is under discussion.

Salento
23-12-17, 07:32
The Egyptian obelisk at the center of the St. Peter's Square in Vatican City was brought to Rome by Caligula.
And there are also 13 others in Rome alone. Others in other places around Italy.

They stay were they Stand.

Part of Humanity Heritage is been destroyed at Palmyra, the Assyrian monuments, and so many other sites. Also during the “Spring Revolution” in Egypt, museums, and archeological sites were looted.

davef
23-12-17, 07:38
The Egyptian obelisk at the center of the St. Peter's Square in Vatican City was brought to Rome by Caligula.
And there are also 13 others in Rome alone. Others in other places around Italy.

They stay were they Stand.

Part of Humanity Heritage is been destroyed at Palmyra, the Assyrian monuments, and so many other sites. Also during the “Spring Revolution” in Egypt, museums, and archeological sites were looted.
Im still haunted by images of ISIS terrorists smashing ancient Assyrian statues and other works of art. It was really depressing and shocking to see them disrespecting their ancestors and what they produced.

Salento
23-12-17, 07:43
Im still haunted by images of ISIS terrorists smashing ancient Assyrian statues and other works of art. It was really depressing and shocking to see them disrespecting their ancestors and what they produced.

There are Monuments that Transcend Nationalities, or Ethnicities. This Monuments belong to All of us. [emoji53]

Maciamo
23-12-17, 08:21
It truly upsets me to see such priceless artifacts stolen, and probably irreparably damaged in the process of smuggling. I would prosecute the smugglers to the fullest extent of the law.

I completely agree.

Maciamo
23-12-17, 09:18
There are Monuments that Transcend Nationalities, or Ethnicities. This Monuments belong to All of us. [emoji53]

Indeed. But even if one considers actual ancestral heritage, the older the monument the more likely any of us has ancestors who belonged to that civilisation. For example, most modern Europeans carry at least traces of ancient Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian or Sumerian ancestry through the progressive gene flow over hundreds of generations.

Lenab
23-12-17, 09:59
Indeed. But even if one considers actual ancestral heritage, the older the monument the more likely any of us has ancestors who belonged to that civilisation. For example, most modern Europeans carry at least traces of ancient Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian or Sumerian ancestry through the progressive gene flow over hundreds of generations.

Try Anatolia and the Steppes Mesopotamia was just apart of the Fertile Cresent all the Inflow of Indo European migration came from Europe to western Anatolia then split through middle to late Bronze Age the ancient Red Sea Coast is just due to Neolithic too it's a E1b1b type lineage. Like you said in your thread

bicicleur
23-12-17, 11:28
to bad, smuggling is big bussiness over there
but it is not booming any more
where are the days they could smuggle oil for ISIS or 'refugees' into Europe
I guess they try to sell a lot of fake copies too
these people surely have no scrupules