Angela
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See:Serventi et al
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/figure/10.1080/03014460.2017.1414876?scroll=top&needAccess=true
So disappointing that it's behind a pay wall. It's 54.00 to rent it for 24 hours. Anyone have institutional access? Even just getting the list of the mtDna would be helpful.
Is this Alvarez the one who was supposedly doing a paper on ancient Italian dna? Gosh, I hope not, if this is what it's going to be like. I wonder if the yDna couldn't be retrieved in their lab? I know it's harder, but if they can't do it, why don't they send it to someplace like the Reich Lab?
In terms of autosomal, they don't mean something stupid like AIMS, do they?
"Background: Archaeological data provide evidence that Italy, during the Iron Age, witnessed the appearance of the first communities with well defined cultural identities. To date, only a few studies report genetic data about these populations and, in particular, the Piceni have never been analysed.[FONT="]Aims: To provide new data about mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) variability of an Iron Age Italic population, to understand the contribution of the Piceni in shaping the modern Italian gene pool and to ascertain the kinship between some individuals buried in the same grave within the Novilara necropolis.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Subjects and methods: In a first set of 10 individuals from Novilara, we performed deep sequencing of the HVS-I region of the mtDNA, combined with the genotyping of 22 SNPs in the coding region and the analysis of several autosomal markers.
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[FONT="]Results: The results show a low nucleotide diversity for the inhabitants of Novilara and highlight a genetic affinity of this ancient population with the current inhabitants of central Italy. No family relationship was observed between the individuals analysed here.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Conclusions: This study provides a preliminary characterisation of the mtDNA variability of the Piceni of Novilara, as well as a kinship assessment of two peculiar burials.[/FONT]
Well, about all I glean from that is that there is a genetic "affinity" with the current populations of Central Italy.
For those not familiar with ancient Italy, this is the area of the Marche and northern Abruzzo.
They don't even give a date for the remains.
"First settled at the beginning of the Iron Age (1200 bc – 400 ad),[2] Picenum later became one of the eleven districts of Italy. The three interior towns of the region possessed an urban layout and appeared to be economically successful, so it is unknown what caused this city[which?] to decline in later years.[3]In 268 BC the consuls Appius Claudius Russus and Publius Sempronius Sophus conducted a pincer operation against Picenum. The Picentes, who were then Roman allies, had rebelled.[4] Part of the population was deported and those who were not were given Roman citizenship without the right to vote. Thus, Picenum was annexed, except for the city of Ausculum, which was considered an allied city. To keep her under control, the colony of Firmum was established nearby in 264 BC."
"Excavations performed in the late 19th century in Picenum give some insight into the region during the Iron Age. Excavated tombs in Novilara of the Molaroni and Servici cemeteries show that the Piceni laid bodies in the ground wrapped in garments they had worn in life.[5]Warriors would be buried in the ground with a helmet, weapons and vessels for food and drinks. Buried beads, bone, fibulae and amber seem to demonstrate that there was an active trade in the ninth and perhaps tenth centuries on the Adriatic coast, especially in the fields of amber and beads of glass paste. In women’s graves there is a large abundance of ornaments made of bronze and iron.[6]
Origins of these items may also show that the Piceni may have looked to the south and east for development.[7]
The warrior tombs seem to show that the Piceni were a war-like people. Every man’s grave contained more or less a complete outfit of a warrior, with the most frequent weapon being a spear. Piceni swords appear to be imported from the Balkans.[8]"
"According to Polybius (Histories 2:21), during the consulship of Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (232 bc), "the Romans divided among their citizens the territory in Gaul known as Picenum, from which they had ejected the Senones when they conquered them".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picenum
"There is linguistic evidence that the Picentini comprised two different ethnicities: a group known to scholars as the "South Picenes" (or South Picenians) were an Italic tribe,[1] while the "North Picenes" (or North Picenians) appear to have had closer links to non-Italic peoples."
"From Ancona southward a language of the Umbrian group was spoken, today called South Picene. It is attested mainly in inscriptions. Umbrian was an Italic language.[2] "
"North of Ancona around Pesaro a non-Italic language, written in a version of the Old Italic script, is attested by four inscriptions (three of which are very brief); this has been termed, for convenience, North Picene. Both the meaning of the inscriptions and the relationship of North Picene to other languages remains unknown. There is phonological evidence that it was linked more closely to the Indo-European language family (than to, for example, Etruscan).[1] Some authors have referred to North Picene as simply "Picene" – under a hypothesis that it represents the original language across Picenum, although there is as yet evidence for this."
"Between Ancona and Rimini to the north the population was multi-ethnic. In the Roman Republic it was Gallia Togata, but the Gauls were known to have combined or supplanted earlier populations. The ager Gallicus, as it was called, was considered both Gaul and Picenum. Under the Roman Empire the coast south of Rimini was united or reunited with the country south of Ancona as Picenum. By then the only language spoken was Latin."
So, Ancona was the dividing line. Novilara is north of Ancona, in the provincia of Pesaro.
The best-known North Picene inscription is on the stele from Novilara (now in the Museo Preistorico Pigorini, Rome), dated to approximately the 6th century BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Picene_language
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/figure/10.1080/03014460.2017.1414876?scroll=top&needAccess=true
So disappointing that it's behind a pay wall. It's 54.00 to rent it for 24 hours. Anyone have institutional access? Even just getting the list of the mtDna would be helpful.
Is this Alvarez the one who was supposedly doing a paper on ancient Italian dna? Gosh, I hope not, if this is what it's going to be like. I wonder if the yDna couldn't be retrieved in their lab? I know it's harder, but if they can't do it, why don't they send it to someplace like the Reich Lab?
In terms of autosomal, they don't mean something stupid like AIMS, do they?
"Background: Archaeological data provide evidence that Italy, during the Iron Age, witnessed the appearance of the first communities with well defined cultural identities. To date, only a few studies report genetic data about these populations and, in particular, the Piceni have never been analysed.[FONT="]Aims: To provide new data about mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) variability of an Iron Age Italic population, to understand the contribution of the Piceni in shaping the modern Italian gene pool and to ascertain the kinship between some individuals buried in the same grave within the Novilara necropolis.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Subjects and methods: In a first set of 10 individuals from Novilara, we performed deep sequencing of the HVS-I region of the mtDNA, combined with the genotyping of 22 SNPs in the coding region and the analysis of several autosomal markers.
[/FONT]
[FONT="]Results: The results show a low nucleotide diversity for the inhabitants of Novilara and highlight a genetic affinity of this ancient population with the current inhabitants of central Italy. No family relationship was observed between the individuals analysed here.[/FONT]
[FONT="][/FONT]
[FONT="]Conclusions: This study provides a preliminary characterisation of the mtDNA variability of the Piceni of Novilara, as well as a kinship assessment of two peculiar burials.[/FONT]
Well, about all I glean from that is that there is a genetic "affinity" with the current populations of Central Italy.
For those not familiar with ancient Italy, this is the area of the Marche and northern Abruzzo.
They don't even give a date for the remains.
"First settled at the beginning of the Iron Age (1200 bc – 400 ad),[2] Picenum later became one of the eleven districts of Italy. The three interior towns of the region possessed an urban layout and appeared to be economically successful, so it is unknown what caused this city[which?] to decline in later years.[3]In 268 BC the consuls Appius Claudius Russus and Publius Sempronius Sophus conducted a pincer operation against Picenum. The Picentes, who were then Roman allies, had rebelled.[4] Part of the population was deported and those who were not were given Roman citizenship without the right to vote. Thus, Picenum was annexed, except for the city of Ausculum, which was considered an allied city. To keep her under control, the colony of Firmum was established nearby in 264 BC."
"Excavations performed in the late 19th century in Picenum give some insight into the region during the Iron Age. Excavated tombs in Novilara of the Molaroni and Servici cemeteries show that the Piceni laid bodies in the ground wrapped in garments they had worn in life.[5]Warriors would be buried in the ground with a helmet, weapons and vessels for food and drinks. Buried beads, bone, fibulae and amber seem to demonstrate that there was an active trade in the ninth and perhaps tenth centuries on the Adriatic coast, especially in the fields of amber and beads of glass paste. In women’s graves there is a large abundance of ornaments made of bronze and iron.[6]
Origins of these items may also show that the Piceni may have looked to the south and east for development.[7]
The warrior tombs seem to show that the Piceni were a war-like people. Every man’s grave contained more or less a complete outfit of a warrior, with the most frequent weapon being a spear. Piceni swords appear to be imported from the Balkans.[8]"
"According to Polybius (Histories 2:21), during the consulship of Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (232 bc), "the Romans divided among their citizens the territory in Gaul known as Picenum, from which they had ejected the Senones when they conquered them".
"There is linguistic evidence that the Picentini comprised two different ethnicities: a group known to scholars as the "South Picenes" (or South Picenians) were an Italic tribe,[1] while the "North Picenes" (or North Picenians) appear to have had closer links to non-Italic peoples."
"From Ancona southward a language of the Umbrian group was spoken, today called South Picene. It is attested mainly in inscriptions. Umbrian was an Italic language.[2] "
"North of Ancona around Pesaro a non-Italic language, written in a version of the Old Italic script, is attested by four inscriptions (three of which are very brief); this has been termed, for convenience, North Picene. Both the meaning of the inscriptions and the relationship of North Picene to other languages remains unknown. There is phonological evidence that it was linked more closely to the Indo-European language family (than to, for example, Etruscan).[1] Some authors have referred to North Picene as simply "Picene" – under a hypothesis that it represents the original language across Picenum, although there is as yet evidence for this."
"Between Ancona and Rimini to the north the population was multi-ethnic. In the Roman Republic it was Gallia Togata, but the Gauls were known to have combined or supplanted earlier populations. The ager Gallicus, as it was called, was considered both Gaul and Picenum. Under the Roman Empire the coast south of Rimini was united or reunited with the country south of Ancona as Picenum. By then the only language spoken was Latin."
So, Ancona was the dividing line. Novilara is north of Ancona, in the provincia of Pesaro.
The best-known North Picene inscription is on the stele from Novilara (now in the Museo Preistorico Pigorini, Rome), dated to approximately the 6th century BCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Picene_language
