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non-foras-ire
06-02-18, 02:23
Moshe Dayan, israeli military leader with an eyepatch, belongs to R1a.

I wish i could post a link here or a photo, but the source can be found from Geni master profile for him.

geni.com/people/משה-דיין/5424460608490068899

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eastara
06-02-18, 06:05
Then he probably belongs to the well known Levite branch R1a-Z93/Y2619 , which was recently proven to originate from the Middle East.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-14761-7

eastara
06-02-18, 06:07
Although born in Palestine, his parents were Ukrainian Jews - Ashkenazi.

kingjohn
06-02-18, 10:23
Although born in Palestine, his parents were Ukrainian Jews - Ashkenazi.

all our leaders are r1a lol :)
benjamin nethaniahu is also r1a ;)

Angela
06-02-18, 17:05
The likelihood is, as Eastara pointed out, that it has nothing to do with any y line picked up in Europe.

"Approximately 300,000 men around the globe self-identify as Ashkenazi Levites, of whom two thirds were previously shown to descend from a single male. The paucity of whole Y-chromosome sequences precluded conclusive identification of this ancestor’s age, geographic origin and migration patterns. Here, we report the variation of 486 Y-chromosomes within the Ashkenazi and non-Ashkenazi Levite R1a clade, other Ashkenazi Jewish paternal lineages, as well as non-Levite Jewish and non-Jewish R1a samples. Cumulatively, the emerging profile is of a Middle Eastern ancestor, self-affiliating as Levite, and carrying the highly resolved R1a-Y2619 lineage, which was likely a minor haplogroup among the Hebrews. A star-like phylogeny, coalescing similarly to other Ashkenazi paternal lineages, ~1,743 ybp, suggests it to be one of the Ashkenazi paternal founders; to have expanded as part of the overall Ashkenazi demographic expansion, without special relation to the Levite affiliation; and to have subsequently spread to non-Ashkenazi Levites."

I wonder if either or both are Levites.

IronSide
06-02-18, 17:34
all our leaders are r1a lol :)
benjamin nethaniahu is also r1a ;)

The Gatekeepers of the Kaaba in Mecca are also R1a ... a conspiracy to take over the world :laughing:

They claim direct patrilineal descent from father to son documenting all 109 gatekeepers since Muhammad. People here are accusing them of being medieval South Asian frauds, who knows ?

eastara
06-02-18, 23:53
Yes, the gatekeepers of the Kaaba were proven to be from the Indian subbranch of R1a - Z93/L657. I think they must be here:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y2594/

It is common also on the Arabian peninsular, but which way was the migration, I can't say.

aleph
16-02-19, 00:07
Looking at these ideas being passed around, I cannot help but wonder in jest if there are such conspiratorial hints about the Nordic branches of R1a being excessively involved in stuff like freemasonry.