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Angela
22-03-18, 15:51
They should know: it's put out by Gambero Rosso, our version of the Michelin Guide.

You can click on the map and get the information for each location.

See:
https://www.thelocal.it/20170921/map-shows-find-best-pizza-restaurant-pizzerias-italy-naples-campania

Pax Augusta
22-03-18, 17:39
They should know: it's put out by Gambero Rosso, our version of the Michelin Guide.

You can click on the map and get the information for each location.

See:
https://www.thelocal.it/20170921/map-shows-find-best-pizza-restaurant-pizzerias-italy-naples-campania


Yes, but it's surely not an exhaustive map. Many pizzerias in southern Italy, and in particular those of Naples, are not really interested in entering the ranking.

So the article's claim that the map shows where to find the very best pizza in Italy isn't completely true.

In recent years in Italy there has been a renewed interest in pizza, with the birth of different types of pizzerias from the past, now they are more gourmet-like (and this ranking rewards this type of gourmet-like pizzeria), and increasingly different from the American industrial chains or any kind of pizza chain.

The types of pizza that has established itself a bit everywhere in Italy in the recent years is that of the Neapolitan tradition.

AdeoF
22-03-18, 18:17
I've been to a place like Tonda before it's a hidden gem i can tell you! I can show the pizza i had there later, just don't have the pic from my old phone right now :/

But i know nothing beats Naples everyone says that

Angela
22-03-18, 18:35
They're great cooks, the Neapolitans, some of the best in Italy, no matter the dish. It helps that a lot of their produce grows in the rich volcanic soil around Vesuvius, and that their sea is teeming with fish compared to ours. I think that's why their cooking is sometimes less complicated than ours: the ingredients are so incredible that you have to do less to them and the dishes still sing.

Salento
22-03-18, 18:45
Neapolitan are Great Cooks/Chefs.
They also have a huge ego. They think that they make the best of everything, including espresso, and they are not shy to judge how much others don’t now what they are doing.
I guess it’s Ok. They are very good. [emoji3]

Angela
22-03-18, 18:51
All Italians have a huge ego and think their area is the best, makes the best whatever. :)

With the Neapolitans they have some justification.

They're not the only masters of cooking in Italy, however. I'd put Emilia-Romagna way up there too. :)

Both areas also have wonderful music. I think it's just chance, but who knows?

In terms of the food, it's probably again the availability of good ingredients.

I won't name names, so to speak, because Italians are touchy about things like this, but I think the food is pretty poor in a few areas. Well, relatively speaking, and in comparison to other ITALIAN areas, not Europe wide.

Pax Augusta
22-03-18, 18:53
They're great cooks, the Neapolitans, some of the best in Italy, no matter the dish. It helps that a lot of their produce grows in the rich volcanic soil around Vesuvius, and that their sea is teeming with fish compared to ours. I think that's why their cooking is sometimes less complicated than ours: the ingredients are so incredible that you have to do less to them and the dishes still sing.

I really like Neapolitan cuisine, to tell the truth it seems simple but it has a long cooking time.

Salento
22-03-18, 19:50
All Italians have a huge ego and think their area is the best, makes the best whatever. :)

With the Neapolitans they have some justification.

They're not the only masters of cooking in Italy, however. I'd put Emilia-Romagna way up there too. :)

Both areas also have wonderful music. I think it's just chance, but who knows?

In terms of the food, it's probably again the availability of good ingredients.

I won't name names, so to speak, because Italians are touchy about things like this, but I think the food is pretty poor in a few areas. Well, relatively speaking, and in comparison to other ITALIAN areas, not Europe wide.
Pride and Ego complete each other.
The Pres.... said this:
'Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser .'
and the new Pope said:
‘Who am I to judge?’
and I say:
You are the Pope. You are the Shepard and I’m the Sheep. Guide me Pope. If you can’t do that, than this Pope stuff is not for you.
Went off topic, I know. sorry.

Yetos
23-03-18, 21:07
Napolitana?

Margarita anyone?

capriciossa?

anchovies? Yummie
as long the anchovies are good quality,
and 'cleaned' good

No I don't like 4 cheese, carbonara, and generally milk cream pizza's

Salento
23-03-18, 22:09
Napolitana?

Margarita anyone?

capriciossa?

anchovies? Yummie
as long the anchovies are good quality,
and 'cleaned' good

No I don't like 4 cheese, carbonara, and generally milk cream pizza's

Pizza with Anchovies is complimented by Capers and a mix of green and black Olives, Oregano, and a a few drops of extra vergine Olive Oil, I think.
Pizza Carbonara? ..... thinking. :)

Yetos
24-03-18, 02:51
Pizza with Anchovies is complimented by Capers and a mix of green and black Olives, Oregano, and a a few drops of extra vergine Olive Oil, I think.
Pizza Carbonara? ..... thinking. :)


I think parsley or caparis,

Carbonara is a white pizza,
milk cream, mushrooms, watercress

Angela
24-03-18, 03:24
It's really salty, but really good.

http://www.acquafarinaitalia.it/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_20170129_130031.jpg

Salento
24-03-18, 03:29
I think parsley or caparis,

Carbonara is a white pizza,
milk cream, mushrooms, watercress

Spaghetti Carbonara: eggs (or some strangely use egg yolk and cream), pancetta, parmigiano, pepper, No Mushrooms.

Salento
24-03-18, 03:31
It's really salty, but really good.

http://www.acquafarinaitalia.it/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_20170129_130031.jpg

It’s missing the green olives. lol
Delicious. [emoji3]

Angela
24-03-18, 03:55
Spaghetti Carbonara: eggs (or some strangely use egg yolk and cream), pancetta, parmigiano, pepper, No Mushrooms.

Pecorino, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW32zYZs2UQ

Salento
24-03-18, 04:13
Pecorino, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW32zYZs2UQ

Bucatini and Fusilli goes with Amatriciana because the sauce can enter the hole a bit. But not in Carbonara because the egg harden on contact with the hot pasta.
imo Spaghetti are better for Carbonara. Pecorino/Romano will make the Carbonara bit too salty because of the pancetta, Parmigiano is sweeter and taste better on Carbonara.
In the South people used pecorino in the pasta because was cheaper than parmigiano.

Yetos
24-03-18, 04:39
ok can i have one with anchovies,
no olives plz
just sauce, cheese, oil, parsley, capparis.

(Am I turning mad? 4:30 morning I have apettite for anchouyia pizza! not even pregnant women do such, )
I go to sleep.

@ Salento
you seem a pizza master.

have you tried with spinach pelte, dried fish or sardines/anchovies, smashed eggs for crusta?

as for olives, try the Greek way
sauce onion flavoured, feta cheese, olives, oil, oregano, tomatoe slices if you want

Salento
24-03-18, 04:58
ok can i have one with anchovies,
no olives plz
just sauce, cheese, oil, parsley, capparis.

(Am I turning mad? 4:30 morning I have apettite for anchouyia pizza! not even pregnant women do such, )
I go to sleep.

@ Salento
you seem a pizza master.

have you tried with spinach pelte, dried fish or sardines/anchovies, smashed eggs for crusta?
My uncle owned a Pizza Restaurant in Italy, I worked there many of my summer vacations when I was a Kid.

davef
24-03-18, 05:07
ok can i have one with anchovies,
no olives plz
just sauce, cheese, oil, parsley, capparis.

(Am I turning mad? 4:30 morning I have apettite for anchouyia pizza! not even pregnant women do such, )
I go to sleep.

@ Salento
you seem a pizza master.

have you tried with spinach pelte, dried fish or sardines/anchovies, smashed eggs for crusta?

as for olives, try the Greek way
sauce onion flavoured, feta cheese, olives, oil, oregano, tomatoe slices if you want

Yes, young grashoppah, Salento is teh gr8 Pizza Sensei!

Salento, I would like 2 slices of extra cheese and hot peppers, and 2 more slices of meatball and onions, do you deliver? Lol! I'll cover us, Yetos.

davef
24-03-18, 05:10
OH WAIT forgot the BEER forgot the BEER! Add 3 bottles of Sam Adams please!

Salento
24-03-18, 05:21
OH WAIT forgot the BEER forgot the BEER! Add 3 bottles of Sam Adams please!

I think you had enough alcohol tonight.
I won’t deliver you the beer. lol [emoji4]

davef
24-03-18, 05:34
I think you had enough alcohol tonight.
I won’t deliver you the beer. lol [emoji4]
Ok but I'm not that far from Connecticut, are you in Litchfield or Fairfield County (Fairfield has all that money and wealth, place ain't cheap)

lol don't answer, I respect your privacy :)

I'll stop posting tonight, gotta lay down, good night everyone

ps I'm very sorry for being off topic, im nice/cool and don't mean any harm

Angela
24-03-18, 12:55
Tastes differ: I, for example, quite like the taste of a good pecorino romano or toscano or sardo in food, although less so on its own. In certain dishes we, by preference, use pecorino, or we use half and half when we don't want the dish either too sweet or too pungent.

So far as I know, spaghetti carbonara was traditionally made with pecorino romano.

As to which tastes better? Opinions vehemently differ!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W28XOjgP6S0

Night
24-03-18, 16:04
The best pizza in the USA is in NYC.
Top notch really, but a very unhealthy food item, if not eaten in moderation.
I seldom eat pizza in moderation, so now I abstain altogether.
An interesting factoid is that the best pizza chefs here in NYC are mostly Hispanic.

AdeoF
24-03-18, 17:15
Or the OG of them all the Margherita with a hint of basil!!! Have that with a Peroni!!!!

Salento
24-03-18, 18:17
Or the OG of them all the Margherita with a hint of basil!!! Have that with a Peroni!!!!

This Delivery is for @Davef, but he’s not around. You can have it, the pizza is getting cold. [emoji4]
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cybernautic
25-03-18, 11:56
They're great cooks, the Neapolitans, some of the best in Italy, no matter the dish. It helps that a lot of their produce grows in the rich volcanic soil around Vesuvius, and that their sea is teeming with fish compared to ours. I think that's why their cooking is sometimes less complicated than ours: the ingredients are so incredible that you have to do less to them and the dishes still sing.

Is it true that the first Pizza was invented in Napoli?

Or did Sicilians also make Pizza?

Pax Augusta
25-03-18, 12:35
Is it true that the first Pizza was invented in Napoli?

Or did Sicilians also make Pizza?

It's true, Pizza, as we know it today, was invented in Naples where it is documented at least since 1700. And in Italy it is commonly accepted that Naples is the home of Pizza.

Then perhaps similar dishes are older, but they are not like today's pizza with tomato, mozzarella and everything else.

The word "pizza" according to some documents is attested for the first time in Gaeta in the Year 997, so 1000 years ago. But it is very unlikely that it is like today's pizza. And anyway Gaeta, which is today in the Lazio region, has been always historically part of the Kingdom of Naples, and was in the region of Campania until 1927. In any case it is part of the history of Naples.

Yetos
25-03-18, 13:30
It's true, Pizza, as we know it today, was invented in Naples where it is documented at least since 1700. And in Italy it is commonly accepted that Naples is the home of Pizza.

Then perhaps similar dishes are older, but they are not like today's pizza with tomato, mozzarella and everything else.

The word "pizza" according to some documents is attested for the first time in Gaeta in the Year 997, so 1000 years ago. But it is very unlikely that it is like today's pizza. And anyway Gaeta, which is today in the Lazio region, has been always historically part of the Kingdom of Naples, and was in the region of Campania until 1927. In any case it is part of the history of Naples.


pizza word comes from antique
Pizza is Italian invasion
but word comes from ancient πικτη picte
wich turns to Greek Pitta Italian Pizza Pontic Greek Pissia
gerenally it is the transform of the Picte mass to a flat surface

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3bXMJyLQECw/UM-E2akIOEI/AAAAAAAAAJU/XZJxq-a1-RI/s640/alexandros284.JPG

Salento
25-03-18, 13:31
Around Rome (located in Lazio), pizza also means “Slap”. If you hear a Roman say: ‘... mò te do nà Pizza! ’ (now I give you a Pizza) RUN if you don’t like confrontation, unless is joking.
Around Italy Pizza can also mean: something flat, squashed, a pinch, a disaster, and up until not too long ago, in S. Puglia we used the word Pizzella to mean the Food, and the word Pizza to mean the man “thing”. I don’t remember the other local meanings of pizza, but there are more.


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Pax Augusta
25-03-18, 13:37
pizza word comes from antique
Pizza is Italian invasion
but word comes from ancient πικτη picte
wich turns to Greek Pitta Italian Pizza Pontic Greek Pissia
gerenally it the transform of the Picte mass to a flat surface

It's possible that the word pizza comes from the Byzantine Greek πίτα, Gaeta and Naples were under the Byzantine rule for many years. But the recipe is another thing.

Yetos
25-03-18, 13:42
It's possible that the word pizza comes from the Byzantine Greek πίτα, Gaeta and Naples were under the Byzantine rule for many years. But the recipe is another thing.

Gaeta-no Γαετανος-Γαιτανος means captain
infact the flag carrier, ορ high officer,
the one who hold the Gaitania compare gaitanum

another possible explanation is also accepted

Salento
26-03-18, 15:21
‘A Pizza song with Lyrics (Aurelio Fierro). An old and fun popular Neapolitan Song.

https://youtu.be/xGA2-KijjTc

davef
26-03-18, 15:42
around rome (located in lazio), pizza also means “slap”. If you hear a roman say: ‘... Mò te do nà pizza! ’ (now i give you a pizza) run if you don’t like confrontation, unless is joking.
Around italy pizza can also mean: Something flat, squashed, a pinch, a disaster, and up until not too long ago, in s. Puglia we used the word pizzella to mean the food, and the word pizza to mean the man “thing”. I don’t remember the other local meanings of pizza, but there are more.


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lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AdeoF
26-03-18, 15:54
Around Rome (located in Lazio), pizza also means “Slap”. If you hear a Roman say: ‘... mò te do nà Pizza! ’ (now I give you a Pizza) RUN if you don’t like confrontation, unless is joking.
Around Italy Pizza can also mean: something flat, squashed, a pinch, a disaster, and up until not too long ago, in S. Puglia we used the word Pizzella to mean the Food, and the word Pizza to mean the man “thing”. I don’t remember the other local meanings of pizza, but there are more.


Sent from my iPhone using Eupedia Forum (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=89698) poor foreigners who would get slapped by them thanks to pizza. Oh yeah that pizza you gave me was nice even if it was a bit cold :)

Angela
26-03-18, 15:56
Pizzelle: A friend of mine has the iron and makes them frequently. They're not my favorite, but they're pretty good.
http://www.browneyedbaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pizzelles-ribbon.jpg

Pisello, yes, but pizza? It's even the wrong ending, surely? :)
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U3_mtDNA.shtml

Salento
26-03-18, 16:53
Pizzelle: A friend of mine has the iron and makes them frequently. They're not my favorite, but they're pretty good.
http://www.browneyedbaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pizzelles-ribbon.jpg

Pisello, yes, but pizza? It's even the wrong ending, surely? :)
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U3_mtDNA.shtml

Just last summer, I was ordering a pizza and my cousin first gently elbowed me, and then blushing he whispered “pizzella”. I did it in purpose. lol. It’s silly.
Those look like Waffles. :)
Similar, but with variety of doughs, I think.
They make them for Natale, but are usually smaller, not round, with honey and fried. In dialect: Purceddhruzzi.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Purceddhruzzi.jpg/320px-Purceddhruzzi.jpg
Here I also saw them at Pasqua.

https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purceddhruzzi

Angela
26-03-18, 19:06
Goodness, they were invented in the Abruzzi and a similar type wafer cookie is made in Molise and they don't know about them in Puglia?

They're everywhere here in Italian groceries. I'm surprised you haven't come across them.

Same with strufoli...Neapolitan in this case, but again, I saw them being sold everywhere in Italy, and here as well. Not my cup of tea...all that honey makes them too sweet, imo.

http://www.cucinasopraffina.it/pictures/1464_1459_struffoli_cilentani.jpg

AdeoF
26-03-18, 19:12
Not my cup of tea


That's the most British thing you have said Angela. I guess you got some British friends then

That struffoli looks yummy :)

Salento
26-03-18, 19:20
Just Regional differences. Of course we know what they are, but in my area we don’t usually make at home the one that look like Waffles.

ps ... Angela, on your previous post there is a graphic error or something that I can’t view.

Angela
26-03-18, 20:02
That's the most British thing you have said Angela. I guess you got some British friends then

That struffoli looks yummy :)

I do, as a matter of fact...a very nice man originally from Yorkshire. :)

He has a very Italian palate, however, French as well. We once went to a very old school Southern Italian restaurant and I suggested he order the Pasta Puttanesca. He scarfed it up, even using a "scarpetta" or piece of bread to mop up the sauce once I told him it was permitted.

I said to him, I guess you liked the sauce. He responded that he'd swim in it if he could! :)

Pasta "prostitute" or "tart" style, as my friend calls it, is not for those who like bland food, as the ingredients, in addition to tomatoes, are garlic, anchovy fillets, capers, oil cured black olives, and crushed red pepper. I happen to love it, but it's not for everyone.

Btw, my friend introduced me to Nigella Lawson and a lot of other British chefs ; he calls me Nigella for fun sometimes. :) I've picked up a couple of phrases from him, such as "Could I have a word"? Other people don't know what I'm talking about...

This young Irish one does a good job.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakVix2lQ78

Sile
26-03-18, 20:04
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frittole_(doughnut)

Angela
26-03-18, 21:29
People don't realize that "pizza" used to be a very regional food in Italy. I never had Neapolitan pizza until we came to this country.

This was our "pizza": focaccia

http://homesweethomeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/CIMG1316.jpg
https://www.globeholidays.net/Europe/Italy/Liguria/Media/Recco_Focaccia_Formaggio_2.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4743485605_29190379fc.jpg

I quickly became a fan, however.


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Jovialis
26-03-18, 21:33
People don't realize that "pizza" used to be a very regional food in Italy. I never had Neapolitan pizza until we came to this country.

This was our "pizza": focaccia

http://homesweethomeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/CIMG1316.jpg
https://www.globeholidays.net/Europe/Italy/Liguria/Media/Recco_Focaccia_Formaggio_2.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4743485605_29190379fc.jpg

I quickly became a fan, however.


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I love focaccia. Sometimes, I even cut it like a sandwich, and put mortadella inside.

Yetos
26-03-18, 22:01
oh boy

same things from antique
but with different names?

WE STILL DO EAT AS OUR ANCESTORS?

Λουκουμαδες lukumades

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as for focaccia hm
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in Greek λαγανον laganon Pontic Greek Λαβας lavash (probably effect from Aryan-Iranian or Armenian)
Strange but the Greek laganon (sound λαwhanon today) linguistic is connected with word Lasagna-ia

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SO 4000 years now we share the same delicacies as our grand grand .... fathers
Especially Italians, which from antique had famous grain production

any possible conection of foccaccia word with spongia word?

Just to remind you
the ancients Greeks merchant a lot and colonise S Italy for its Grain production
it was consider the best,
the most famous grain in antique world,
while the most productive in quantity was Crimaia, and Egypt


BTW

what do you believe is the best grain wheat for pizza?

Angela
26-03-18, 23:07
oh boy

same things from antique
but with different names?

WE STILL DO EAT AS OUR ANCESTORS?

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lukumades more bread inside

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served with honey, nuts, sesami, sirups sugar, fantastic flavor chinnamon

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as for focaccia
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in Greek λαγανον laganon Pontic Greek Λαβας lavash (probably effect from Aryan-Iranian or Armenian)
Strange but the Greek laganon (sound λαwhanon today) linguistic is connected with word Lasagna-ia

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SO 4000 years now we share the same delicacies as our grand grand .... fathers

Yes, I think we do.

Struffoli are like tiny doughnuts. We make larger ones too. So do many other countries, of course.

These are Zeppole...they're like French beignets:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f2/14/39/f21439d12ef670aa54e919d722969604.jpg

You can fill them too:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/a1/e5/cda1e5e50625c7778d73f4d7de64a934.jpg

The third picture in the prior post is of what we call farinata or cecina. It's not made from wheat flour but from the flour of chickpeas. It's wonderful, sweet, and creamy, but only if you eat it hot. It's one of the few foods, like a gelato, that no one criticizes you for eating on the street.

We also make a type of pita in my area. We have retained a lot of old food customs and even food utensils. You pre-heat clay discs in the fire, and then pour in a thin batter made of just flour, water, salt, and sometimes a bit of oil, or in some places it's more of a soft dough.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G26rcDrx748

Salento
26-03-18, 23:39
@Yetos You say: “what do you believe is the best grain wheat for pizza?”

imho Soft wheat flour type "0" if you don’t want to hear the Pizzaman shouting Profanity at the World as the pizza rips when he slaps the pizza dough.
It’s also about elasticity. In Italy this flour is also used for regular bread and focaccia.
ps Many restaurants make bread or focaccia from the leftover pizza dough of the night before.

AdeoF
26-03-18, 23:45
I do, as a matter of fact...a very nice man originally from Yorkshire. :)

He has a very Italian palate, however, French as well. We once went to a very old school Southern Italian restaurant and I suggested he order the Pasta Puttanesca. He scarfed it up, even using a "scarpetta" or piece of bread to mop up the sauce once I told him it was permitted.

I said to him, I guess you liked the sauce. He responded that he'd swim in it if he could! :)

Pasta "prostitute" or "tart" style, as my friend calls it, is not for those who like bland food, as the ingredients, in addition to tomatoes, are garlic, anchovy fillets, capers, oil cured black olives, and crushed red pepper. I happen to love it, but it's not for everyone.

Btw, my friend introduced me to Nigella Lawson and a lot of other British chefs ; he calls me Nigella for fun sometimes. :) I've picked up a couple of phrases from him, such as "Could I have a word"? Other people don't know what I'm talking about...

Hahahaha he defiantly gave you some important words you can use i remember my mother saying "Could I have a word with you" and getting the biggest telling off, even from the teachers aswell at school XD

Pasta Puttanesca/Pasta prostitute That's is some strong language for a Pasta!

Angela
27-03-18, 01:57
What are the preferred toppings for pizza in Italy?
Pizza al Nord
1 prosciutto e funghi (89%)- Prosciutto and mushroom
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/04/75/44/da/pizza-mozzarella-prosciutto.jpg
2 gorgonzola e salame (76%) Blue cheese and salami
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/04/c2/63/08/pizza-bianca-gorgonzola.jpg
3 capricciosa (71%) Mozzarella cheese, ham, mushroom, artichoke and tomato- I don't like this one, probably because I don't like pizza w/cooked ham
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/44/79/344479bb46de170d9e883c20d1d11b35.jpg
Donne-Women
1 vegetariana (84%) Vegetable
2 bresaola e rucola (82%) Air dried salted beef and arugula lettuce

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/ac/26/42/pizza-bresaola-rucola.jpg


Pizza al Sud
1 bufala (82%) Bufala mozzarella and tomatoe
2 marinara (71%) Just tomato
3 tonno e cipolle (64%) Tuna and onions
Donne
1 Norma con melanzane e ricotta salata (67%) Eggplant and dry, salty ricotta
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/04/91/a0/ca/pizza-norma-melanzane.jpg
2 frutti di mare (59%) Seafood
3 pomodorini, capperi e olive (45%) cherry tomatoes, capers and olives


I don't know if I buy this. I like the southern ones a lot more. Maybe I've been in America too long?

I do like the prosciutto and mushroom one.

cybernautic
27-03-18, 05:57
It's possible that the word pizza comes from the Byzantine Greek πίτα, Gaeta and Naples were under the Byzantine rule for many years. But the recipe is another thing.

I agree
The Italian pizza is much different from the Greeks foods Yetos mentioned.

davef
21-04-18, 07:06
I had focaccia yesterday and it was one of the best things I've ever had! I had it in the past without knowing what it was called, but as of yesterday I had some really high quality focaccia and the rich olive oil made it heavenly. Aesthetically, it looks like a boring old piece of bread, and when it's in your hands it feels hard as a rock so naturally one without focaccia experience wouldn't expect much excitement from it but giving it a shot will get you hooked!

Is it ok to put tomato sauce and mozzarella on it to make it into a pizza? Or maybe stuff it with ricotta? I don't see much room for improvement, focaccia is absolutely fantastic on its own!

Salento
21-04-18, 07:44
I had focaccia yesterday and it was one of the best things I've ever had! I had it in the past without knowing what it was called, but as of yesterday I had some really high quality focaccia and the rich olive oil made it heavenly. Aesthetically, it looks like a boring old piece of bread, and when it's in your hands it feels hard as a rock so naturally one without focaccia experience wouldn't expect much excitement from it but giving it a shot will get you hooked!

Is it ok to put tomato sauce and mozzarella on it to make it into a pizza? Or maybe stuff it with ricotta? I don't see much room for improvement, focaccia is absolutely fantastic on its own!

Why not, call it “Calzone alla Davef” lol