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Carbo
26-03-18, 21:08
U5a2b would seem more of Greek origin, considering that it is more in southern Italy above all Sicily, Calabria and Puglia or more Roman (Latin colonization)?

Azzurro
26-03-18, 21:41
U5a2b would seem more of Greek origin, considering that it is more in southern Italy above all Sicily, Calabria and Puglia or more Roman (Latin colonization)?

U5a2b has been found in Bronze Age Hungary and in a Scythian.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314926803_Supplementary_Dataset_1/data/58c73e4a458515478dbf829b/srep43950-s2.xls

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/pstorage-tf-iopjsd8797887/10347336/SupplementalFile3.xlsx

My mtdna is U5a2b5 and my maternal ancestry is from Cattolica Eraclea, Agrigento, Sicilia, my oldest maternal ancestor I found dates to the mid 1700’s from a neighbouring village Montallegro.

Carbo
26-03-18, 21:59
U5a2b has been found in Bronze Age Hungary and in a Scythian.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314926803_Supplementary_Dataset_1/data/58c73e4a458515478dbf829b/srep43950-s2.xls

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/pstorage-tf-iopjsd8797887/10347336/SupplementalFile3.xlsx

My mtdna is U5a2b5 and my maternal ancestry is from Cattolica Eraclea, Agrigento, Sicilia, my oldest maternal ancestor I found dates to the mid 1700’s from a neighbouring village Montallegro.


U5a2b* in Italy: more Greek or Roman?

Azzurro
26-03-18, 22:11
U5a2b* in Italy: more Greek or Roman?



More likely Pan Italic so Roman is more probable than Greek in my opinion, maybe more ancient samples could solve this question.

https://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/u/u5/u5a/u5a2/u5a2b/

I guess it depends the which branch of U5a2b.

I have 3 mtdna matches on ftdna, 1 is Sicilian and 2 are Latina.

Carbo
26-03-18, 22:26
More likely Pan Italic so Roman is more probable than Greek in my opinion, maybe more ancient samples could solve this question.

https://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/u/u5/u5a/u5a2/u5a2b/

I guess it depends the which branch of U5a2b.

I have 3 mtdna matches on ftdna, 1 is Sicilian and 2 are Latina.

I'm U5a2b. Apulia, Francavilla Fontana, Brindisi/Taranto

Brindisi (Brundisium) and Taranto were both Greek and Roman colonies

Yetos
26-03-18, 22:42
U5a2b has been found in Bronze Age Hungary and in a Scythian.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314926803_Supplementary_Dataset_1/data/58c73e4a458515478dbf829b/srep43950-s2.xls

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/pstorage-tf-iopjsd8797887/10347336/SupplementalFile3.xlsx

My mtdna is U5a2b5 and my maternal ancestry is from Cattolica Eraclea, Agrigento, Sicilia, my oldest maternal ancestor I found dates to the mid 1700’s from a neighbouring village Montallegro.

Eraclea?
interesting name.

Azzurro
26-03-18, 23:05
I'm U5a2b. Apulia, Francavilla Fontana, Brindisi/Taranto

Brindisi (Brundisium) and Taranto were both Greek and Roman colonies

Did you test with National Geographic? The furthest you got was U5a2b?

It could be both but I think U5a2b is more likely to be Roman than Greek, U5a2b isn’t generally found in Greeks, Greeks usually belong to other branches of U5.

Azzurro
26-03-18, 23:08
Eraclea?
interesting name.

Yeah, there is the ancient ruins of the Greek city Eraclea Minoa not far from the village.

Pratt
27-03-18, 04:39
U5a2b* in Italy: more Greek or Roman?



Most likely the latter.

Sile
27-03-18, 20:36
Eraclea?
interesting name.
eraclea , once was capital of the veneti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eraclea
The first certain settlement is that one of the Opitergians, between IV and III century before Christ.
Histrian, Liburnian and Opitergians illyrians side with Pompey in the civil war.

Azzurro
27-03-18, 22:33
eraclea , once was capital of the veneti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eraclea
The first certain settlement is that one of the Opitergians, between IV and III century before Christ.
Histrian, Liburnian and Opitergians illyrians side with Pompey in the civil war.

In the case of Cattolica Eraclea, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Veneti but with the ancient Greek city located on the Outskirts Eraclea Minoa, Eraclea means pride of Hera and is the female variant of Herakles or Ercole.