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Maciamo
05-05-18, 15:56
In 2017 I started a thread encouraging users to share their 23andMe Ancestry Composition (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33825-Share-your-23andMe-Ancestry-Composition) to get a better idea of what each admixture corresponds to. This resulted in the making of distribution maps for each European admixture (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml#23andMe). I would now like to do the same for MyHeritage DNA customers.

Please only share your results if all your ancestors come from the same country! Kindly also mention your ancestral region(s) within that country so that results can be classify more accurately.

Stuvanè
05-05-18, 16:39
I got an estimate of ethnicity from MyHeritage obtained by uploading the raw data of 23andme on their calculator: is it useful?


In any case these are my results (family roots from Italy= Eastern Emilia/Romagna):

- Southern Europe 87,2% (Italian 75,2% + Iberian 12%)

- Northern and Western Europe 10,8%

- Ashkenazi Jewish 2%

(It's the only calculator that gives me back some jewish lineage, although my family hasn't those origins)

Sile
05-05-18, 22:40
mine.....Veneto Italy
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Europe 100.0%
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South Europe70.2%
Italian70.2%
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East Europe15.6%
Balkan13.3%
East European2.3%
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North and West Europe14.2%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh14.2%
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Father has 58% italian and 23% irish ....the rest similar
"ancient"Moldovian seems to be the theme for the family when east european is mentioned as a %

Dibran
06-05-18, 01:24
Me:

South Europe:
-Greek-75.3%
-Italian- 8.2%

East Europe
-Balkan- 16.5%

Father:From Okshtun i Vogel, Diber, Albania

South Europe:
-Greek-98%
-Italian- 2%

Mother: Puka, Albania

South Europe:
-Greek-62.3%
-Italian- 1.9%

East Europe
-Balkan- 35.8%

Azzurro
07-05-18, 00:59
My Results: Father Roccanova, Basilicata & Mother Cattolica Eraclea, Sicilia

Europe 66.8%

31.9% Greek
19.2% Sardinian
7.4% Iberian

5.3% Baltic

3% Ashkenazi Jewish

Africa 22.6%

22.6% Sephardic Jewish-North African

Middle East 10.6%

10.6% Middle Eastern

Vallicanus
07-05-18, 12:02
You would think that My Heritage, based as it is in Israel, would be more accurate when it came to assigning Jewish genes to Italians.

Italians and Jews share certain genes.

You would think Italians are all partly Ashkenazi or Sephardi if you trusted My Heritage's algorithm.

IronSide
07-05-18, 14:21
Middle Eastern 44.5%

Yemenite Jewish 27.3%

North African 22.4%

Ashkenazi Jewish 3.5%

Somali 1.4%

Melanesian 0.9%

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I hope this is not supposed to be an estimation of recent ancestry, because if it is, then it is quite ridiculous, I don't have Yemeni Jewish ancestors, nor Ashkenazi, nor North African.

And aren't Yemeni Jews Middle Eastern? why do they have a separate category?

Pax Augusta
07-05-18, 14:43
You would think that My Heritage, based as it is in Israel, would be more accurate when it came to assigning Jewish genes to Italians.

Italians and Jews share certain genes.

You would think Italians are all partly Ashkenazi or Sephardi if you trusted My Heritage's algorithm.

Well, not all the Italians score Ashkenazi or Sephardi on My Heritage. And maybe it's the opposite, being based in Israel, My Heritage could tend to overstimate Jewish ancestry. For example LivingDNA is based in Great Britain and tend to overstimate British ancestry in non-British people.

Vallicanus
07-05-18, 14:48
Well, not all the Italians score Ashkenazi or Sephardi on My Heritage. And maybe it's the opposite, being based in Israel could tend to overstimate Jewish ancestry. For example LivingDNA is based in Great Britain and tend to overstimate British ancestry in non-British people.

I definitely agree with you that My Heritage does overestimate Jewish ancestry.

Regio X
07-05-18, 15:40
Here's a topic with more results:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34132-My-heritage-Free-upload

davef
07-05-18, 16:24
My Results: Father Roccanova, Basilicata & Mother Cattolica Eraclea, Sicilia

Europe 66.8%

31.9% Greek
19.2% Sardinian
7.4% Iberian

5.3% Baltic

3% Ashkenazi Jewish

Africa 22.6%

22.6% Sephardic Jewish-North African

Middle East 10.6%

10.6% Middle Eastern

This calculator doesn't seem ideal for south Italians, that's a very poor model. If it were any better you would've scored italian and lots of it.

JajarBingan
07-05-18, 18:18
Mine, Romanian from the Moldavian region

https://puu.sh/AhNWE/c67bf6a60a.png

Yaan
07-05-18, 19:05
Mine ( Bulgarian)

Eastern Europe
Balkan 74.1 %
South Europe
Greek 19.6%
Italian 1.4%
Ashkenazi Jewish
Ashkenazi Jewish 4.6%

Regio X
07-05-18, 22:57
This calculator doesn't seem ideal for south Italians, that's a very poor model. If it were any better you would've scored italian and lots of it.Given the results of Azzurro, I wonder if MyHeritage uses reference samples from South Italy too or just from North and perhaps Central Italy. My parents are North Italian in ancestry, and we get a substantial Italian % in this calculator (between 40 and 60%).

Mine – FTDNA data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

Mine – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%

Father – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Mother – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

These results resemble a bit our DNA Land's.

davef
08-05-18, 05:20
Middle Eastern 44.5%

Yemenite Jewish 27.3%

North African 22.4%

Ashkenazi Jewish 3.5%

Somali 1.4%

Melanesian 0.9%

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I hope this is not supposed to be an estimation of recent ancestry, because if it is, then it is quite ridiculous, I don't have Yemeni Jewish ancestors, nor Ashkenazi, nor North African.

And aren't Yemeni Jews Middle Eastern? why do they have a separate category?
I know right?? In fact, aren't Yemeni Jews Bedouin like? It's insane to put them apart from other middle easterners.

This calculator has ways to go

Azzurro
08-05-18, 15:46
This calculator doesn't seem ideal for south Italians, that's a very poor model. If it were any better you would've scored italian and lots of it.

I agree it makes no sense that I get ZERO, I am curious what is the reference population they use for Italy.

Azzurro
08-05-18, 15:49
Given the results of Azzurro, I wonder if MyHeritage uses reference samples from South Italy too or just from North and perhaps Central Italy. My parents are North Italian in ancestry, and we get a substantial Italian % in this calculator (between 40 and 60%).

Mine – FTDNA data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

Mine – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%

Father – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Mother – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

These results resemble a bit our DNA Land's.

I am curious to know as well, I doubt MyHeritage uses Southern Italians in their reference population for Italy, I have several matches that score zero Italian like me or lower than 10%.

Salento
08-05-18, 16:08
Does it make a difference buying the MyHeritage Kit vs uploading 3rd parties RawData ?
Has anybody tried and compared both Results ?

davef
08-05-18, 16:14
I am curious to know as well, I doubt MyHeritage uses Southern Italians in their reference population for Italy, I have several matches that score zero Italian like me or lower than 10%.
Yeah you scored nothing in that category, strangely. You're more Sardinian than italian by this test.

Regarding what Pax Augusta said, it seems more suitable for Jewish people, everybody seems to score relatively high Sephardim or Ashkenazi in this test

Salento
08-05-18, 16:37
Yeah you scored nothing in that category, strangely. You're more Sardinian than italian by this test

I’m heeeariiiing, that for MyHeritage most Apulians are the “Children of Leonidas of Sparta”. lol (Greekish)
Something it ain’t right with their Results. (ain’t lol). :)

Sile
08-05-18, 20:46
Given the results of Azzurro, I wonder if MyHeritage uses reference samples from South Italy too or just from North and perhaps Central Italy. My parents are North Italian in ancestry, and we get a substantial Italian % in this calculator (between 40 and 60%).

Mine – FTDNA data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

Mine – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%

Father – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Mother – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

These results resemble a bit our DNA Land's.

I agree with this as I get 70% italian and father 56% ( 21% in 23andme )

Sile
08-05-18, 20:47
I am curious to know as well, I doubt MyHeritage uses Southern Italians in their reference population for Italy, I have several matches that score zero Italian like me or lower than 10%.

maybe they use south italian as Greek with albania like natgeno does

Salento
08-05-18, 21:48
maybe they use south italian as Greek with albania like natgeno does
NatGeo Helix doesn’t.

https://i.imgur.com/BbvCbYj_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Salento
08-05-18, 22:24
NatGeo Helix updated also my Primary Ref. Pop.:
1 Tuscan (Italy)

https://i.imgur.com/aJQuNyY_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

@Jovialis you should check their website too !

Ave Cesare

HaSofer
11-08-18, 11:55
Could it be also the other way around that myheritage confuses Jewish dna with Italian dna? because i get 23 percent Italian and 1 percent Sardinian dna, although we do not know of Italian ancestry in our family, only German, Jewish and Russian. This is more reflected in certain calculators on gedmatch but not on myheritage. Also on gedmatch i dont have so much Eastern European dna. Im new to dna and dont understand why there are so many different results.

anyway here are my results from myheritage:

Eastern Europe: 42,2 %
North and Westeurope: 33,5 %
Italian: 23,1 %
Sardinian 1,2 %

I heard that Ashkenazi Jewish and Italian or even Greek dna is very close.
Wouldnt it then make more sense to call this dna simply "Mediterranean" instead of Italian or Jewish?

HaSofer
11-08-18, 12:03
my brother (same father, same mother) made a test on ftdna and we transfered it to myheritage to see the difference. its so different.

my brother gets:

North and Westeurope 45 %
England 5 %
Finnland 3,9 %
Balkan 22,6 %
Eastern Europe 21,3 %
Iberian 2,2 %

how can this be explained? it seems to me that the calculators cant really identify our mediterranean dna with certainty.

mitty
11-08-18, 19:07
myheritage gives me:
Europe 100%
North & West Europe 98.2%
English 54.6%
Scandinavian 27.8%
Irish, Scots and Welsh 12.8%
Finnish 3%
Southern Europe, Italian 1.8%

I don't understand why they have given me 27.8% Scandinavian. I only get <1% on ancestry and <2% on ftdna.

italouruguayan
12-08-18, 02:05
my results

Europe 63%: Italian 22.9%,
Iberian 16.2%
Irish, Scottish, Welsh 12.4%
Northwest Europe: 11.5%

America 24.9%: Central America 22.9%
South America (Amazonia) 2%

Middle East 6.7%

Western Asia 4.4%

East Africa 1%


FTDNA

Europe 73%: South East Europe 32%
British Isles 19%
Iberia 13%

New World 19% North and Central America 14%
South America 5%

Middle East 3% Eastern Middle East 3%

Traces Ashkenazi Jew <2%
North Africa <2%
West Africa <2%
South Central Africa <1%

One of the things that surprised me most is the difference in my American components. I believe that the Central American population considered in My Heritage is mestizo, so it does not only contain Native American components, but also European and African ones, which could alter certain percentages. I believe that to be more useful, the American populations considered should only be native .

Joey37
20-09-18, 02:16
All right, I uploaded my 23andMe data to MyHeritage. And this is what I got. North and West Europe 67.8% (Irish Scottish and Welsh 27.7%, Scandinavian 25.5%, English 14.6%). South Europe 19.7% (Iberian 10.5%, Greek 9.2%). Balkan 12.5%. DOES THIS GUY LOOK 25% SCANDINAVIAN?!?!?!10419

Salento
20-09-18, 12:32
Does anybody know if there is a QUALITY Difference between the free download and a Paid Test?
Is the free download Flawed?

bigsnake49
22-09-18, 16:36
Myheritage DNA results kit 1, uploaded from AncestryDNA:

59% Greek
33% Balkan
5.1% Scandinavian
2.9% Ashkenazi Jew

Kit 2 uploaded from Living DNA:

56.4% Greek
35.2% Balkan
6.6% Scandinavian
1.8% Ashkenazi Jew

Ancestry DNA results (DNA)

62% Greece/Albania/Turkey
29% Eastern Europe and Russia
6% Turkey/Caucasus
3% Italy

It seems there is broad agreement in the major components of my ancestry.

Jovialis
22-01-19, 17:10
https://i.imgur.com/cQgLW7N.png

These are my results. I uploaded my 23andme raw data nearly a year ago, but now I guess they were able to convert the V5 version to be compatible with their calculator.

Clearly their centrum for "Italian" is more northern, and the rest I get is probably pulled towards "Greek" from that centrum. Personally, I think the current version of AncestryDNA may be best for southern Italians. Considering they have sub-populations dedicated to specific southern Italian regions.

Salento
23-01-19, 01:20
https://i.imgur.com/cQgLW7N.png

These are my results. I uploaded my 23andme raw data nearly a year ago, but now I guess they were able to convert the V5 version to be compatible with their calculator.

Clearly their centrum for "Italian" is more northern, and the rest I get is probably pulled towards "Greek" from that centrum. Personally, I think the current version of AncestryDNA may be best for southern Italians. Considering they have sub-populations dedicated to specific southern Italian regions.

MyHeritage assigns results similar to yours to almost all Apulians.
I presumed that the results I saw came from the old free-upload.
I would like to know if paying for the test increases the quality of the results.

Jovialis
23-01-19, 01:34
MyHeritage assigns results similar to yours to almost all Apulians.
I presumed that the results I saw came from the old free-upload.
I would like to know if paying for the test increases the quality of the results.

I don't know, my cousin did it, and his results were really off to say the least. I'd save my money on this one.

Salento
23-01-19, 03:46
I don't know, my cousin did it, and his results were really off to say the least. I'd save my money on this one.

Yeah, we should wait until they do a decent update.

Salento
24-01-19, 17:04
I don't know, my cousin did it, and his results were really off to say the least. I'd save my money on this one.

Sometimes, outdated(?) calculators, give me this kind of results.
This might be similar to what MyHeritage uses. :)

http://i.imgur.com/4D0mfYU.jpg

Sile
24-01-19, 19:00
Sometimes, outdated(?) calculators, give me this kind of results.
This might be similar to what MyHeritage uses. :)
http://i.imgur.com/4D0mfYU.jpg
mine is always been 70% italian, the others are only balkans and ireland roughly at 15% each ......no issue really
.
but of my first 9 DNA matches ......I have confirmed 8 , even a Benetton in Belgium and another in Trentino ......others are in veneto and Friuli
.
As long as I only check the "medium confidence" , and not the "low confidence" , this site makes me happy

Salento
24-01-19, 19:57
mine is always been 70% italian, the others are only balkans and ireland roughly at 15% each ......no issue really
.
but of my first 9 DNA matches ......I have confirmed 8 , even a Benetton in Belgium and another in Trentino ......others are in veneto and Friuli
.
As long as I only check the "medium confidence" , and not the "low confidence" , this site makes me happy

As Pugliesi Jovialis and I, both get 79% Italian, and Puglia as the Region on AncestryDNA, and others too.
Regionally speaking, I was saying that imo, MyHeritage has gaps in the Genetic Map of the IT Peninsula.

I didn't Test with MyHeritage, because I've seen other results of people of my region, and I immediately understood that this company it’s not completely up to speed (yet).

Boreas
24-01-19, 20:32
57,3% Greek
16,9% Balkan
6,5% Baltıc
4,9% South Asia
4,0% North African
2,7% Japanese
2,2% Central Asia
2,1% West Asia
1,9% Eskimo
1,5% Middle East

TardisBlue
26-01-19, 00:11
[deleted my own results]

Sorry, hadn't actually read the opening post. Here're my mother's results (her 4 grandparents come from France: 3 from Champagne-Ardennes - 1 from haute-Savoie):

Europe 93.6%

Northern and Western Europe 58.8%
-> English 40.0%
-> Irish, Scottish, Welsh 17.9%
--> Finnish 0.9%

Eastern Europe 24.6%
--> Eastern Europe 13.5%
--> Balkan 11.1%

Southern Europe 10.2%
---> Italian 10.2%

Africa 6.4%
---> North Africa 5.5%
---> Nigerian 0.9%

Salento
31-01-19, 14:34
Sometimes, outdated(?) calculators, give me this kind of results.
This might be similar to what MyHeritage uses. :)

http://i.imgur.com/4D0mfYU.jpg

This is what happens to my results when a oracle doesn't have South Italy.
It’s interesting to see how and with whom it gets confused.

http://i.imgur.com/uz30URt.jpg



Another-one with pop. sharing.
http://i.imgur.com/Hb2vQlb.jpg

Angela
31-01-19, 23:10
[deleted my own results]

Sorry, hadn't actually read the opening post. Here're my mother's results (her 4 grandparents come from France: 3 from Champagne-Ardennes - 1 from haute-Savoie):

Europe 93.6%

Northern and Western Europe 58.8%
-> English 40.0%
-> Irish, Scottish, Welsh 17.9%
--> Finnish 0.9%

Eastern Europe 24.6%
--> Eastern Europe 13.5%
--> Balkan 11.1%

Southern Europe 10.2%
---> Italian 10.2%

Africa 6.4%
---> North Africa 5.5%
---> Nigerian 0.9%

The North African result is interesting. I often don't think the MyHeritage results make complete sense, but in this case, there is the Moorish incursion into Provence and the neighboring mountains to consider.

See:
https://www.history.ubc.ca/sites/default/files/users/cbooker/docs/Ballan_Fraxinetum.pdf

However, from what I've seen these kinds of short lived incursions rarely have much lasting influence, so maybe, on balance, it's just an artifact of their algorithm.

TardisBlue
01-02-19, 21:06
However, from what I've seen these kinds of short lived incursions rarely have much lasting influence, so maybe, on balance, it's just an artifact of their algorithm.

It's probably just that (an artifact of their algorithm), as my mother doesn't get any North Africa with Gedmatch calculators or on FTDNA. Interestingly though, she has a Mtdna exact match (genetic distance: 0) who's Libyan.

Duarte
12-03-19, 15:40
MyHeritage DNA results:



EUROPE
90.7%


South Europe
73.9%


*Iberian
64.3%


*Italian
9.6%


North and West Europe
16.8%


*North and West European
16.8%


AFRICA
9.3%


North Africa
5%


*North African
5%


West Africa
4.3%


*Nigeria
4.3%


TOTAL
100%



Family Tree DNA - FTDNA results



EUROPEAN
87%


*Iberia
67%


*West and Central Europe
20%


MIDDLE EASTERN
5%


*North Africa
5%


AFRICAN
3%


*West Africa
3%


TOTAL
95%


TRACE RESULTS



Southeast Europe
< 2%


Sephardic
< 2%


South Central Africa
< 2%

matty74
14-03-19, 05:49
MyHeritage.com
Europe
100.0%

North and West Europe
100.0%

Scandinavian
85.7%

North and West European
14.3%

matty74
14-03-19, 05:52
European98%
British Isles
39%
East Europe
0%
Finland
0%
Scandinavia
51%
Southeast Europe
8%
Iberia
< 2%
West and Central Europe
0%

matty74
14-03-19, 05:53
I think my British Isles has been vastly overstated

JGirardier
15-03-19, 01:53
Hello!

59.8 British & Irish
26.3 French & German
1.8 Scandinavian
12 Broadly Northwestern European
.2 Broadly European

This is by 23 and Me

Gash
18-03-19, 09:59
Half Greek Half Balkan , more or less.

domogled
31-03-19, 18:46
I uploaded my 23andme test results to MyHeritage roughly 6 months ago. I remember the 23andme test has been done on a version 5 test chip. So I downloaded the 23andme rawdata and then converted in two different versions.I decided to upload both versions to the newly MyHeritage profile, and I ended up with two different kits.
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I compared the results, the suggested list of genetic relatives, and finally, the reason I decided today to post about my results, since yesterday a new feature MyHeritage added, the "auto cluster analysis".
It took about 16 hours to have the results calculated and sent into my e mail as a zip. I think it is a new interesting feature My Heritage just added and I was surprised to have it available as my account is a free one.10851
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New Englander
31-03-19, 20:55
First set of numbers correlate to myself, the 2nd to my Great Aunt.

Europe
89.3%
68.5%
South Europe
44.0%
7.9%
Greek
41.0%
0.0%
Italian
3.0%
2.9%
Iberian
0.0%
5.0%
North and West Europe
28.0%
0.0%
North and West European
28.0%
0.0%
Ashkenazi Jewish
17.3%
56.5%
Ashkenazi Jewish
17.3%
56.5%
East Europe
0.0%
4.1%
Balkan
0.0%
4.1%
Asia
9.0%
12.2%
West Asia
9.0%
12.2%
West Asian
9.0%
6.0%
Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi
0.0%
6.2%
Middle East
1.7%
13.3%
Middle East
1.7%
13.3%
Middle Eastern
1.7%
13.3%
Africa
0.0%
6.0%
North Africa
0.0%
6.0%
Sephardic Jewish - North African
0.0%
6.0%

Marquis
08-06-19, 11:20
I find My Heritage dna estimate abit hit and miss.


Europe
98.9%



North and West Europe
95.3%

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
95.3%




South Europe
3.6%

Iberian
3.6%






Asia
1.1%



South Asia
1.1%

South Asian
1.1%






No other site makes reference to any Asian or Spanish heritage at all. I've heard that My Heritage throw 1% in to discourage racism, It'd be a shame and dishonest if it were true.

Faralysi
28-07-19, 16:05
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Jovialis
01-09-19, 12:54
https://i.imgur.com/sPAOjqX.png

Here's an update to my results

Duarte
01-09-19, 13:49
My results, actualized with new Kits tested:




https://i.imgur.com/YhNw5Zq.png

https://i.imgur.com/WxExycV.png

Regio X
01-09-19, 17:25
https://i.imgur.com/cQgLW7N.png

These are my results. I uploaded my 23andme raw data nearly a year ago, but now I guess they were able to convert the V5 version to be compatible with their calculator.

Clearly their centrum for "Italian" is more northern, and the rest I get is probably pulled towards "Greek" from that centrum. Personally, I think the current version of AncestryDNA may be best for southern Italians. Considering they have sub-populations dedicated to specific southern Italian regions.

https://i.imgur.com/sPAOjqX.png

Here's an update to my resultsI didn't notice any change.


Here's a topic with more results:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34132-My-heritage-Free-upload

Mine – FTDNA data
Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

Mine – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%

Father – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Mother – 23andMe data

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%Mine are the same!

Jovialis
02-09-19, 20:46
I didn't notice any change.
Mine are the same!
I thought it was interesting, because it shows the centrum includes southern Italy, in the name. Which means the Greek component is probably Peloponnesian-to-cretan-like. I think the Greeks that went to southern Italy probably remained like that. But perhaps even the Iapygians were somewhat similar genetically, idk without ancient DNA. The "Italian" component is Tuscan-like, maybe TSI. To me, this shows two components that are indigenous to Puglia since ancient times. Both of which are components that are appropriate for a modern Italian from the region of Bari.

Regio X
02-09-19, 21:16
@Jovialis
Ops. Sorry. I was focused in the numbers, and didn't notice that the labels changed.

Salento
02-09-19, 23:09
MyHeritage should Invest much more resources on Autosomal Results.

If Ancestry and 23andme can distinguish a Pugliese from a Calabrese or an Abruzzese, how is it that MyHeritage can’t even pinpoint a South Italian.

Duarte
03-09-19, 01:36
MyHeritage should Invest much more resources on Autosomal Results.

If Ancestry and 23andme can distinguish a Pugliese from a Calabrese or an Abruzzese, how is it that MyHeritage can’t even pinpoint a South Italian.

All supported ethnicities 'MyHeritage':

https://i.imgur.com/FE2465K.png

About Italy in 'MyHeritage':

https://i.imgur.com/lTdS7tY.png
https://i.imgur.com/YmEBLp5.png

All supported ethnicities 'Family Tree DNA - FTDNA':

https://i.imgur.com/jSJW9D0.png

About Italy in 'Family Tree DNA - FTDNA':

https://i.imgur.com/J2HtBw9.png
https://i.imgur.com/7yHhiwe.png

Salento
03-09-19, 02:39
@Duarte :cool-v:
I guess the complaint should also apply to “Iberia”, no distinctions between Spaniards and Portuguese.

Duarte
03-09-19, 03:09
@Duarte :cool-v:
I guess the complaint should also apply to “Iberia”, no distinctions between Spaniards and Portuguese.

It is true. I totally agree with you. This is very frustrating on MyHeritage and FTDNA. LM Genetics made this distinction for me. I know that LM is based on Eurogenes and nMonte 3, which a lot of people criticize. But for me it was the only one that made distinctions between regions of Portugal and between Portugal and Spain. A big hug dear friend. :good_job::smile:

https://i.imgur.com/aCiVwnU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GgIrFcu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YXKb64n.jpg

Salento
03-09-19, 03:22
It is true. I totally agree with you. This is very frustrating on MyHeritage and FTDNA. LM Genetics made this distinction for me. I know that LM is based on Eurogenes and nMonte 3, which a lot of people criticize. But for me it was the only one that made distinctions between regions of Portugal and between Portugal and Spain. A big hug dear friend. :good_job::smile:

https://i.imgur.com/aCiVwnU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GgIrFcu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YXKb64n.jpg
from AncestryDna Regional Community:


http://i.imgur.com/zcb1es1.jpg




http://i.imgur.com/1bYNye8.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/eDcVjaO.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/LyLmq0f.jpg

(... still no Salento, but that’s a different story) LOL

Duarte
03-09-19, 03:43
from AncestryDna Regional Community:


http://i.imgur.com/zcb1es1.jpg




http://i.imgur.com/1bYNye8.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/eDcVjaO.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/LyLmq0f.jpg

(... still no Salento, but that’s a different story) LOL

This is very cool:good_job:. But, unfortunately, in Brazil we do not have access to Ancestry/23andMe’s testing Kits.:sad-2:

Salento
03-09-19, 04:08
This is very cool:good_job:. But, unfortunately, in Brazil we do not have access to Ancestry/23andMe’s testing Kits.:sad-2:

Hopefully they’ll enter the Brazilian Market soon.

With regrets, I deleted my 23 accounts, I didn't agree with a few aspects of their business model.
Maybe I’ll test again with the next new V#-chip, if ...

Boreas
03-09-19, 08:16
I've heard that My Heritage throw 1% in to discourage racism, It'd be a shame and dishonest if it were true.

Is there anybody heard similar things?

Salento
03-09-19, 17:29
https://i.imgur.com/sPAOjqX.png

Here's an update to my results

Nice new Results

.. regardless of my “picky” expectations :)

matty74
03-09-19, 18:36
I'm not seeing anything in the way of updates. Maybe the updates were more south European centered and they'll have some updates for Northern Europe sometime soon.

https://i.imgur.com/lrzOQdA.png

https://i.imgur.com/xRWnfZh.png

No update for me in Ancestry so far. It's been the same since last fall when I received my results. I think?

https://i.imgur.com/nhzBUXd.png

torzio
04-09-19, 07:21
no change for me for over a year

https://i.postimg.cc/tR1yRLpJ/myheritage-ethn.png (https://postimages.org/)

TardisBlue
04-09-19, 08:26
No change for me (left) or my Mother (right) either. Still as crappy a report as ever…

https://i.ibb.co/zs3nG9t/Capture-d-cran-2019-09-04-08-22-06.png

Duarte
04-09-19, 11:28
Hopefully they’ll enter the Brazilian Market soon....

I hope that yes dear friend Salento. It would be great 23andMe and Ancestry in Brazil. But, with the new government and its follies, I have doubts if any foreign company would be interested to make business in Brazil. :grin::laughing:

kingjohn
04-09-19, 16:30
No change for me (left) or my Mother (right) either. Still as crappy a report as ever…

https://i.ibb.co/zs3nG9t/Capture-d-cran-2019-09-04-08-22-06.png

the significant sefhardic- north african could come from your campania heritage
i saw full campanians who score it probably just shared med allells

Jovialis
04-09-19, 17:18
All supported ethnicities 'MyHeritage':

https://i.imgur.com/FE2465K.png

About Italy in 'MyHeritage':

https://i.imgur.com/lTdS7tY.png
https://i.imgur.com/YmEBLp5.png

All supported ethnicities 'Family Tree DNA - FTDNA':

https://i.imgur.com/jSJW9D0.png

About Italy in 'Family Tree DNA - FTDNA':

https://i.imgur.com/J2HtBw9.png
https://i.imgur.com/7yHhiwe.png


Thanks for posting those descriptions. I'd give you an up-vote, but it doesn't seem possible on this thread.

It is funny how some people either try to say that Southern Italians, are less Italian or they deny the concept of ethnicity. When in fact I have two genetic components that have been in Italy, thousands of years.

https://i.imgur.com/sPAOjqX.png

FYI

I still think myheritage is a garbage quality test.

leperrine
04-09-19, 18:05
MyHeritage results 11374

Europe
100.0%
North and West Europe
99.0%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
67.2%
North and West European
31.8%
East Europe
1.0%

Duarte
04-09-19, 19:17
Thanks for posting those descriptions. I'd give you an up-vote, but it doesn't seem possible on this thread.

It is funny how some people either try to deny the concept of ethnicity, or that Southern Italians, are less Italian. When in fact I have two genetic components that have been in Italy, thousands of years.

https://i.imgur.com/sPAOjqX.png

FYI

I still think myheritage is a garbage quality test.

You’re kind, Jovialis, and you’re ever welcome dear friend :good_job::smile:

TardisBlue
04-09-19, 20:06
the significant sefhardic- north african could come from your campania heritage
i saw full campanians who score it probably just shared med allells

Yes, I don't know (I'm no expert, just a newbie). I don't understand why some have it, and some don't. I have relatively close matches from Campania who don't show Sefardic ancestry on MH but who show Middle Eastern instead, or just North African but not Sephardic. And all from the same family. I guess it just shows that MH is not reliable at all?

Salento
04-09-19, 20:36
Is there anybody heard similar things?

or:

The genetic makeup of an ethnicity is made up by the ratio of various ancient populations.

The company decides which numerical ratio is to be assigned to every ethnicity (Ethnic Average).

If the value/number of a population is a bit higher of the ethnic average, they’ll add the extra % of that population in the final results by itself.

It can also depends on how far back in time a Company does the test.

Bear in mind that over half the World's population, at one time or another, they were all in Asia Minor, most left, some didn’t or they didn’t go far. (Minestrone :)

kingjohn
04-09-19, 20:56
Yes, I don't know (I'm no expert, just a newbie). I don't understand why some have it, and some don't. I have relatively close matches from Campania who don't show Sefardic ancestry on MH but who show Middle Eastern instead, or just North African but not Sephardic. And all from the same family. I guess it just shows that MH is not reliable at all?

probably there is also overlap with the middel eastern and north african to some extent
there is a woman from gozo malta who scored 14.5% sefhardic in my heritage so i think a mixture of north african+ middel eastern
and my heritage randomly chose Sephardi for her.....

p.s
any way after israel it is cyprus and than italy who score the highest % of this ethnicity in there map of countries according to my heritage ......

italouruguayan
04-09-19, 21:41
Europe
63,0%
Southern Europe
39,1%
Italian
22,9%
Iberian
16,2%
Northern and Western Europe
23,9%
Irish , Scottish and Welsh
12,4%
North West Europe
11,5%
America
24,9%
Central and South America
24,9%
Mesoamerican and Andean
22,9%
Amazonian Native
2,0%
Middle East
6,7%
Middle East
6,7%
Middle East
6,7%
Asia
4,4%
Western Asia
4,4%
Western Asia
4,4%
Africa
1,0%
East Africa
1,0%
Kenian
1,0%
Xxxxxx
100,0%

My ancestors on the paternal side are 100% Italian, and on the maternal side they are mixed, with Iberian ancestors, Native Americans and sub-Saharan Africa (and also an Italian ancestor). I am surprised by Irish, Scottish and Welsh ancestors ... I suppose they refer to distant Celtic ancestors and not to people of these modern nationalities. And it seems to me a mistake to include the Central American population, since being a population with origin in three races, it confuses more than clarifies the origins of a person.

Pax Augusta
05-09-19, 00:21
Yes, I don't know (I'm no expert, just a newbie). I don't understand why some have it, and some don't. I have relatively close matches from Campania who don't show Sefardic ancestry on MH but who show Middle Eastern instead, or just North African but not Sephardic. And all from the same family. I guess it just shows that MH is not reliable at all?


These ethnicity estimates should never be taken seriously. Any company, not only MH.

kingjohn
05-09-19, 15:58
mine :
greek - 32.2%
italian - 3.5%
Ashkenazi jew-26% (paternal grandmother logic inline with every test or calculator i ever took )
eastern european - 5.3%
baltic - 2.2%
sefhardic jewish- north african -16.1%
middle eastern -9.8%
west asia -4.8%

Angela
05-09-19, 16:45
I haven't taken My Heritage, so I can't address it directly, but I concur with Pax. We shouldn't be taking any of these too seriously.

I always use the adoptee test. If I were adopted and knew nothing about my ancestry, would it give me the correct information? 23andme has me as mainly Italian but with a hodgepodge of other ancestry, mostly Northwest European. Ancestry says I'm 45% French, which is ridiculous. Their own graphics make it clear. It's just that parts of northern Italy and parts of France and French Switzerland are similar.

So, they both fail.

kingjohn
05-09-19, 17:43
if i was adoptee than i will find out i am quarter askenazi
and my heritage didn't fail here just like ftdna didnt who gave me the same %
as you said in other thread it is easy to see askenazi dna because of the bottleneck

Angela
05-09-19, 17:51
if i was adoptee than i will find out i am quarter askenazi
and my heritage didn't fail here just like ftdna didnt who gave me the same %
as you said in other thread it is easy to see askenazi dna because of the bottleneck

You're right as far as the companies are concerned: both My Heritage and 23andme can tell you if you have Ashkenazi ancestry in genealogical time.

Ashkenazi ancestry is special in that way.

Eurogenes "J Test", on the other hand, is useless.

Regio X
05-09-19, 20:17
In short, depending on the situation, 23andMe + trio-phasing involving adopted, spouse and child could occasionally provide really good clues on the ancestry of the adopted person.
It's amazing how 23andMe refined my results with phasing, in these last versions. It got way less "confused", and assign me almost 90% of Italian ancestry, even my ancestry not being related to a more central position in the country.

torzio
05-09-19, 20:52
In short, depending on the situation, 23andMe + trio-phasing involving adopted, spouse and child could occasionally provide really good clues on the ancestry of the adopted person.
It's amazing how 23andMe refined my results with phasing, in these last versions. It got way less "confused", and assign me almost 90% of Italian ancestry, even my ancestry not being related to a more central position in the country.

myheritage is far superior in finding matches than any other company I tried.............as long as you stick by 2 rules that work for me
1 - a Medium Confidence indicator......minimum require, avoid the ones that state Low confidence
2 - have more than 1 segment matching, regardless of size

I have , apart from 4 family members........another 6 clear matches on paternal and maternal sides , which later I have found in BDM records

Dominicanese
08-09-19, 01:07
https://i.gyazo.com/159e54cfeec69d0c91d5112a9d86a1a3.png

Regio X
16-09-19, 15:20
I uploaded my uncle's Raw Data to MyHeritage, but now the company is charging for revealing results. So another time... :)

Lukas
06-10-20, 12:17
Mine, too much Balkan I think:)
https://i.imgur.com/oZry1el.png

Regio X
06-10-20, 14:47
I uploaded my uncle's Raw Data to MyHeritage, but now the company is charging for revealing results. So another time... :)Wait! They "magically" showed up. :)

Uncle's – FTDNA data
Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 47.1%
- Italian: 47.1%
*East Europe: 28.1%
- Balkan: 26.2%
- East European: 1.9%
*North and West Europe: 24.8%
- North and West European: 24.8%


Mine – FTDNA data
Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

Mine – 23andMe data
Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%

Father – 23andMe data
Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Mother – 23andMe data
Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

Dorquest
06-10-20, 20:35
Europe 100.0%


North and West Europe 83.3%

English 50.0%

North and West European 33.3%

East Europe 12.3%

East European 12.3%

South Europe 4.4%

Iberian 4.4%

italouruguayan
13-10-20, 01:50
Mine....1235712358

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