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Months ago I've been going through the haplotypes from the "Origins, admixture and founder lineages in European Roma" study and I was very surprised to see some STR values that are familiar to me.
dys390=25, dys389=13-32, also very often dys385=17-18. These haplotypes are SNP confirmed in the study as V13, and there is only one E-V13 clade for which they are basically modal (especially dys390+dys389ii) and that is L540.
Roma from Bulgaria, L540 nonexistant in Bulgarians, and looking at STR values likely will not be found in Bulgaria
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 33 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 33 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
Roma from Greece , 4 out of 5 V13 , L540 nonexistant in Greeks, and generally these values are very off for Greeks
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 13 11 32 17 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 13 11 32 17 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 13 11 31 17 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 14 11 33 17 14 20 11 18 10 21
Roma from Hungary, L540 absent from Hungarians
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
Roma from Romania, only one V13, but he has a weird haplotype and again this value on dys389, this haplotype is absent in Romanians
13 24 13 9 16-16 11 12 12 13 11 32 16 14 20 10 14 10 22
Roma from Slovakia, no such but all of their V13 are weird looking, one has dys389=13-32, others 13-31
Roma from Ukraine
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 31 16 14 20 11 17 10 22
Obviously none of these are L540 tested but it's quite clear their haplotypes lean in that direction to anyone with deeper knowledge of V13. And obviously among surrounding Southeastern European populations E-L540 is basically non-existent.
dys390=25, dys389=13-32, also very often dys385=17-18. These haplotypes are SNP confirmed in the study as V13, and there is only one E-V13 clade for which they are basically modal (especially dys390+dys389ii) and that is L540.
Roma from Bulgaria, L540 nonexistant in Bulgarians, and looking at STR values likely will not be found in Bulgaria
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 33 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 33 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
Roma from Greece , 4 out of 5 V13 , L540 nonexistant in Greeks, and generally these values are very off for Greeks
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 13 11 32 17 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 13 11 32 17 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 13 11 31 17 14 20 11 17 10 21
13 25 13 10 17-17 11 12 11 14 11 33 17 14 20 11 18 10 21
Roma from Hungary, L540 absent from Hungarians
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 32 16 14 20 11 18 10 21
Roma from Romania, only one V13, but he has a weird haplotype and again this value on dys389, this haplotype is absent in Romanians
13 24 13 9 16-16 11 12 12 13 11 32 16 14 20 10 14 10 22
Roma from Slovakia, no such but all of their V13 are weird looking, one has dys389=13-32, others 13-31
Roma from Ukraine
13 25 13 10 17-18 11 12 11 13 11 31 16 14 20 11 17 10 22
Obviously none of these are L540 tested but it's quite clear their haplotypes lean in that direction to anyone with deeper knowledge of V13. And obviously among surrounding Southeastern European populations E-L540 is basically non-existent.