Hello,
I was looking into the E-PH1246 branch from E-V13, is there any in depth info about its possible geographic location or time in history.
Thank you.
Hi, you have been tested as BY14150-, BY15549-, possibly you belong in a group with Sensering Y37092* because this group shows dys389ii=18 like you have. They are positive to BY14160, so you might test that SNP if it is possible.
Closest to you seem one Swiss, Swann/Swain from England and a Russian (Kuznetsov), none of these are yet SNP confirmed but they look to be PH1246+ and distantly related to you. You share generally values of dys385=16-21, 17-21.., English don't have typical value for the rest of dys389ii=18, but standard PH1246 dys389=14-17 however this value in them seems recent. Swiss and English are closer to each other than they are to Russian or you.
There are 3 other Italians that I have predicted as PH1246 (and 2 are certain) but they belong to other clades. About origins, it can be varying. There is one South Italian likely PH1246 with dys390=23 and closest matches he has are in Greece, on Chios island, Euboiea, so he might be descended of Greek colonists. But PH1246 doesn't seem common in Greece except this variety (looking at studies of Greeks). If one is to go by Cetina culture hypothesis about the origin and spread of V13 then some of Italian might be connected to that.
Also there is one certain (though not yet SNP tested) Italian member of PH1246>Y30977>Y30976>Y84931 cluster alongside Pole, Tatar (no SNP but certain based on STR's) and an Armenian, and if one is to go by STR values he might not be that old in Italy, he certainly seems closer to Pole, Tatar than any of them are to an Armenian. This PH1246 clade seems to have some older foothold in the East of Europe, might have something to do with nomadic populations.
Because several clades under PH1246 are very old, often when a haplotype on only 37 STR's looks 2000 yrs away he turns out to be a different clade that is 4500+ yrs away.