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AntonK
12-10-18, 16:34
J-PF5456 formed 3500ybp and its TMRCA is 3300ybp (according to YFull), so pre-Roman.

Question 1: My grandpa was haplogroup J-PF5456, he was born and raised in the Netherlands, so his ancestors (and therefore mine) likely arrived with the Romans?

Question 2: Is J-PF5456 Tuscan?

Question 3: Could J-PF5456 be Etruscan?

Juan.delajara
15-10-18, 23:08
Hi Anton. There are many theories regarding the origin of PF5456. There is an interesting paper, published on May 2018 by Nature, that gives some solid arguments regarding the mother clade of PF5456, CTS3601, ''A finely resolved phylogeny of Y chromosome Hg J illuminates the processes of Phoenician and Greek colonizations in the Mediterranean''.
Analyzing ancient alleles, they said that Branch 59 (CTS6061), as a subclade of L397 (L70), has an ancient origin in continental Greece, and that afterwards moved to southern Italy, with the founding of greek colonies, about 2.700 years ago ( more or less), becoming PF5456, and it's clades. Probably on roman times, it moved from the italian peninsula to the rest of Europe, and elsewhere, withe the expansion of the Roman Empire.

AntonK
16-10-18, 16:20
Thank you for the information! Interesting!

CubanChris
21-10-19, 23:34
Interesting indeed. My Y line ended up in Spain.