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Archetype0ne
29-01-19, 12:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpbS4bba6lk

"6:37"

That something is cooking that much is certain.

What, why and how it will unfold, time will tell.

However, that map behind Bolton and Mnuchin does not look like a good omen considering:

1) The recent political re-kindling over the future of Syria between Russia, Iran and Turkey.

2) Recent developments in Venezuela.

Furthermore:

A) If that map has any credibility, EU is non committal, and for good reason IMO. Who wants a WW between trading partners?

B) Why is Japan omitted from the map? As if to say that is a given or...? Why is South Africa and Mexico in RED? For South Africa BRICS would make sense, but Brazil is obviously in Blue...

Just an interesting development that got lost over the notepad Bolton was holding with the notes " Welcome Afghan talks; 5k troops Colombia". However, that map IMO stores more implications regarding the back scenes of international politics.

LABERIA
29-01-19, 12:44
It was an good idea to start this thread dedicated to the current geo-political events in the world Archetype0ne, well done.

Archetype0ne
29-01-19, 13:18
It was an good idea to start this thread dedicated to the current geo-political events in the world Archetype0ne, well done.

As long as I ignore trolo provocateurs since post 1 in this one, I should not have hypertension xD. Edit for clarity: Not meant @ Labëria, but referencing an inside story from a previous thread.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-russia-lavrov/russias-lavrov-says-us-sanctions-on-venezuela-oil-company-illegal-idUSKCN1PN0YA JANUARY 29, 2019 / 10:50 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

"Russia's Lavrov says U.S. sanctions on Venezuela oil company illegal"

"MOSCOW (Reuters) - U.S. sanctions imposed on Venezuela’s state oil company are illegal and Russia will take all necessary steps to support the administration of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was quoted as saying on Tuesday.
Lavrov said the sanctions amounted to an attempt by the United States to confiscate Venezuelan state assets, Russian news agencies quoted him as saying."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuelas-guaido-calls-for-new-protests-as-pressure-on-maduro-rises-idUSKCN1PM1IM JANUARY 28, 2019 / 2:37 PM / UPDATED 16 HOURS AGO

"Venezuela's Guaido calls for new protests as pressure on Maduro rises"

"CARACAS (Reuters) - Juan Guaido, the Venezuelan opposition leader and self-proclaimed president, on Monday called for new street demonstrations as pressure intensified on President Nicolas Maduro and the crisis-stricken OPEC nation."

"Countries around the world have recognized Guaido as Venezuela’s rightful leader, and the United States vowed to starve Maduro’s administration of oil revenue after he was sworn in Jan. 10 for a second term that was widely dubbed illegitimate."



I am providing Reuters as a source in an attempt to minimize bias. Although that is nigh impossible. The first article has the Russian Foreign Ministry as a source. As to the second my guess would be Guaido's camp.

As for my take on above two articles. It seems evident the question Mnuchin declined to answer yesterday regarding an Embargo is de facto a reality. Albeit newspeak renders it to sanctions.

I would like to stress that although Geo-Politics can not be debated bias-free, we can still strive toward such a debate. For what does not get resolved with reason, gets resolved one way or the other.

Archetype0ne
29-01-19, 15:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM37V03s6js

Watch Live: FBI, CIA directors testify on 'worldwide threats'

LABERIA
31-01-19, 10:32
Backing Maduro, SYRIZA Wants “Political Dialogue” for Venezuela Crisis (https://www.thenationalherald.com/228688/backing-maduro-syriza-wants-political-dialogue-for-venezuela-crisis/)

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 13:17
Backing Maduro, SYRIZA Wants “Political Dialogue” for Venezuela Crisis (https://www.thenationalherald.com/228688/backing-maduro-syriza-wants-political-dialogue-for-venezuela-crisis/)

What has happened so far:

US has given control of Venezuelan assets to Guaido. (Not surprisingly, more and more people are protesting, just a speculation but there could be a financial incentive beyond just the future of Venezuelan wealth involved with the rising support in the protests.)

Just yesterday Maduro called for dialogue with Guaido to resolve the divide in the country. (Is it because without cash loyalty becomes more expensive? Such a call was completely unexpected just a week ago, yet it might be Maduros lifeline...)


Relevant reading material corroborating the above statements:

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/americas/venezuela-opposition-leader-guaido-calls-for-protests-while-maduro-offers-dialogue

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/maduro-offers-dialogue-to-venezuelan-opposition-and-warns-americans-against-a-new-vietnam-in-latin-america/2019/01/30/8e7076fc-241a-11e9-b5b4-1d18dfb7b084_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6313795d531b

https://news.yahoo.com/pressure-venezuelas-maduro-opposition-amnesty-offer-protests-002639744.html

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/iaij2df0albP1S9CWFGDCQ--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2g9NjAwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/8c984b314c7a9c7c53748ba31d05ec13cf3d9833.jpg


https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/iaij2df0albP1S9CWFGDCQ--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2g9NjAwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/8c984b314c7a9c7c53748ba31d05ec13cf3d9833.jpg

I have got to say, I support EU's decision for a peaceful solution to this. But as we have seen earlier this decade not everything can be resolved through elections. As an example Palestinian - Israeli relations were getting better, that is until Hamas won the democratic elections. Then the rhetoric changed to one of "embargo Gaza". So despite democracy being a just measure of peoples wills, international relations seldom is fully compatible with democratic votes, or with self determination, sadly.

On the other hand, I could only guess the Hawks in the East and in the West cant wait to get their hands on another War... And I could only guess, had the EU fully supported the US course of Action we would be in a "global" war right now. I refuse to say world war, cause in the 21st century it seems proxy wars is where its at. In this proxy wars the civilians are the real victims.

It is a bit sad that me and Labëria have to keep this thread alive, when such a storm is over the future of Geo-Politics. This is beyond cold war now, this is becoming an open ended conflict.

Here, I am hoping they give Maduro amnesty, to set a precedent of co-operation, and fully nationalize Venezuelas wealth for its People akin to what Norway did with their sovereign fund. The other options I dread to think about.

LABERIA
31-01-19, 13:40
Russian Mercenaries Reportedly Descend On Venezuela To Help Protect Maduro's Regime (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26174/russian-mercenaries-reportedly-descend-on-venezuela-to-help-protect-maduros-regime)


http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=70&w=1440&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2 F2019%2F01%2Fmaduro-1-1.jpg%3Fquality%3D85


Cossack organizations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks) in Russia are quasi-official, semi-autonomous bodies of Slavic peoples that have historically contributed armed personnel to serve in wars and as internal security forces at the direction of the government in Moscow. Many of these groups continue this tradition today (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks#Modern_times) to varying degrees, sending individuals to fight on behalf of pro-Russian interests in conflicts in Chechnya (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1449424/Russia-calls-on-the-Cossacks-to-ride-again-this-time-in-Ladas.html), Georgia (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/09/russia.georgia1), and Ukraine (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/world/europe/cossacks-face-reprisals-as-rebel-groups-clash-in-eastern-ukraine.html).

“Our people are there directly for his protection,” Shabayev told Reuters, adding that the mercenaries were there specifically to prevent rogue members of Venezuela’s security forces from detaining Maduro. He also claimed that Wagner had around 400 individuals in the country.



If this is true, Maduro has morally lost every right to govern that country.

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 13:58
Russian Mercenaries Reportedly Descend On Venezuela To Help Protect Maduro's Regime (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26174/russian-mercenaries-reportedly-descend-on-venezuela-to-help-protect-maduros-regime)




http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=70&w=1440&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2 F2019%2F01%2Fmaduro-1-1.jpg%3Fquality%3D85


If this is true, Maduro has morally lost every right to govern that country.

Well at this point he needs all the help he can get. 400 Troops will not be able to do much beyond personal body guard duty if this escalates.

The thing is in May of 2018 Maduro "won" the elections. There were claims of irregularities, and the opposition did boycott the elections. But still on paper, he won, so opens a big debate about moral right to govern.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/venezuela-elections-nicolas-maduro-wins-second-term

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Venezuelan_presidential_election

I personally support neither Maduro neither Guaido, I just hope Venezuelans get food to eat, and medicine to treat their sick. Pathetic how the innocent bare the brunt force of power struggles.

It seems material resources are more of a curse for poor not established countries... Such a sour irony.

Salento
31-01-19, 13:59
Russian Mercenaries Reportedly Descend On Venezuela To Help Protect Maduro's Regime (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26174/russian-mercenaries-reportedly-descend-on-venezuela-to-help-protect-maduros-regime)




http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=70&w=1440&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2 F2019%2F01%2Fmaduro-1-1.jpg%3Fquality%3D85


If this is true, Maduro has morally lost every right to govern that country.
There are also 1000s of Cubans too. They've been in Venezuela for a while.

LABERIA
31-01-19, 14:11
Well at this point he needs all the help he can get. 400 Troops will not be able to do much beyond personal body guard duty if this escalates.

The thing is in May of 2018 Maduro "won" the elections. There were claims of irregularities, and the opposition did boycott the elections. But still on paper, he won, so opens a big debate about moral right to govern.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/venezuela-elections-nicolas-maduro-wins-second-term

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Venezuelan_presidential_election

I personally support neither Maduro neither Guaido, I just hope Venezuelans get food to eat, and medicine to treat their sick. Pathetic how the innocent bare the brunt force of power struggles.

It seems material resources are more of a curse for poor not established countries... Such a sour irony.
It`s not that i am taking side in this story. But it`s scandalous that he use mercenaries for his personal protection. There is not one Venezuelan man ready to protect his President? It`s a shame.

LABERIA
31-01-19, 14:15
There are also 1000s of Cubans too. They've been in Venezuela for a while.

Addirittura?

Salento
31-01-19, 15:09
Addirittura?

Assolutamente sì. 20.000 Cubans. It’s true. :)

... Cuba has since invested in and propped up the Venezuelan military and intelligence wings, according to many observers. And some estimates have indicated as many as 20,000 Cubans could be in the ranks of the Venezuelan security apparatus...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-deep-are-the-cracks-in-venezuelas-military

LeBrok
31-01-19, 16:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM37V03s6js

Watch Live: FBI, CIA directors testify on 'worldwide threats'


Now, this should help Trump supporters to understand how big of a moron Trump is.

LeBrok
31-01-19, 16:52
As long as I ignore trolo provocateurs since post 1 in this one, I should not have hypertension xD. Edit for clarity: Not meant @ Labëria, but referencing an inside story from a previous thread.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-russia-lavrov/russias-lavrov-says-us-sanctions-on-venezuela-oil-company-illegal-idUSKCN1PN0YA JANUARY 29, 2019 / 10:50 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

"Russia's Lavrov says U.S. sanctions on Venezuela oil company illegal"

"MOSCOW (Reuters) - U.S. sanctions imposed on Venezuela’s state oil company are illegal and Russia will take all necessary steps to support the administration of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was quoted as saying on Tuesday.
Lavrov said the sanctions amounted to an attempt by the United States to confiscate Venezuelan state assets, Russian news agencies quoted him as saying."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuelas-guaido-calls-for-new-protests-as-pressure-on-maduro-rises-idUSKCN1PM1IM JANUARY 28, 2019 / 2:37 PM / UPDATED 16 HOURS AGO

"Venezuela's Guaido calls for new protests as pressure on Maduro rises"

"CARACAS (Reuters) - Juan Guaido, the Venezuelan opposition leader and self-proclaimed president, on Monday called for new street demonstrations as pressure intensified on President Nicolas Maduro and the crisis-stricken OPEC nation."

"Countries around the world have recognized Guaido as Venezuela’s rightful leader, and the United States vowed to starve Maduro’s administration of oil revenue after he was sworn in Jan. 10 for a second term that was widely dubbed illegitimate."



I am providing Reuters as a source in an attempt to minimize bias. Although that is nigh impossible. The first article has the Russian Foreign Ministry as a source. As to the second my guess would be Guaido's camp.

As for my take on above two articles. It seems evident the question Mnuchin declined to answer yesterday regarding an Embargo is de facto a reality. Albeit newspeak renders it to sanctions.

I would like to stress that although Geo-Politics can not be debated bias-free, we can still strive toward such a debate. For what does not get resolved with reason, gets resolved one way or the other.


I've seen similar situations way back in Eastern Europe. Thanks to good man Gorbachev, he abolished communist dictatorships, and most of us had a happy ending. Unfortunately there is Putin now in power, who supports all dictators, like Maduro, around the planet. His support also includes wanna be dictators like Trump.

Alcuin
31-01-19, 16:54
Now, this should help Trump supporters to understand how big of a moron Trump is

Nobody saw Trump as an ideal candidate, far from it, but he at least came across as sincere in what he said he wanted to do (regardless of whether folk expected him to achieve his aims when confronted by the deep state, mass media and left-wing autism).

Given the choice between an honest buffoon and a cold, calculating, lying, morally-reprehensible, openly-warmongering career politician like Hillary Clinton I know which I would opt for.

bicicleur
31-01-19, 17:03
Cuba would give Maduro a safe haven, and Russia would replace Maduro by a puppet for Putin.
Russia wants to protect its oil interests and have a military base in Venezuela.

I wonder.

https://nl.express.live/rusland-maduro-cuba-asiel/?fbclid=IwAR3CSK3Wc6tCzFF7nGSI_1KPmjDpyjZNfMhxxjik aWkrqHwH5AcsvfILP7E

Salento
31-01-19, 17:45
Now, this should help Trump supporters to understand how big of a moron Trump is.

Your name-calling won’t change anybody’s mind.

As a matter of fact, your approach Backfire Spectacularly, always.

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 18:23
Anyone can explain this:
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47061509)
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-schedule-white-house-president-twitter-work-oval-office-a8756356.html)

1. Trump told his Intel Chiefs to "go back to school" in yesterdays meeting.
2. Since January 1 he has had an average of 1 scheduled task a day. This means yesterdays meeting, was the only meeting in his Schedule.


We are talking about The President of the United States here.
It appears to me there might be some legal battle going in Washington behind the scenes. Since Democrats got the House, The President might be in some sort of "executive oversight", or colloquially speaking "timed out".

With all the fuss going on regarding WMD in Space, Venezuela, Russia Iran Turkey summit on the future of Syria...

Do you guys not think The President of the United States would have more than one meeting/thing on his schedule a day?

This is what makes me think things are much worse than anyone anticipates.

Ygorcs
31-01-19, 18:54
The best thing that could happen to Venezuela and to its neighbors, like us in Brazil, is that the regime gets weakened and discredited enough so that part of the military withdraw its support - still clinging strongly to Maduro government, which since Chávez (a military himself) favored the Armed Forces a lot (and again proving that it's never a good sign when the military get too involved in politics - we in Brazil should've learned that back in the 60s, but apparently we didn't, as they're starting to making a comeback, but now in a more "civil" approach). I don't think anything concrete and good will come out of a situation in which the country would have two self-declared legitimate government vying for power within the same territory and backed up by different international (and bellicose) powers, especially considering that Venezuela is now one of the most violent countries in the world and extremely stressed out, with increasingly violent politics. Especially if they hear the Americans and Russians a bit too much - as that "casual note" demonstrates - it's very likely that the current problematic situation will degenerate into a full-blooded civil war, a Latin American Syria. And Venezuelans do no deserve nor need that, and the problem of Venezuelan exodus is already too big and difficult to handle to be made even worse by a civil war. Negotiations after bringing the regime to its knees, and instilling unsatisfied parts of the Armed Forces to be bold enough to express their discontent, would be the best strategy.

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 19:00
Usually rational actors do not contradict themselves. Any such rational actor acts at the function of a certain goal... Based on strategy etc.

You can not have the same actor, without "multiple personality disorder" change their policies on the whim to their own interests detriment.

Now you have Bolton(5k Troops, Welcome Afghan Talks) implying "capitulation"(do not flame me for my personal opinion) in Afganistan and Syria.
But Hawkish in Venezuela?

The strategy/system of action is the same.

But why give up one wing, and throw in the other? (Unless anticipating a sunk cost in the region... in case of escalation, and focusing resources on the other wing. I hope to God I am wrong on this)

If what I am saying makes any sense.

Meanwhile every other article in major news is about WMD... "2 minutes" to midnight etc...

one side of the bias source: (https://sputniknews.com/military/201901271071854827-russia-us-sub-satellite/ )
Russia Detects US Military Satellites' Manoeuvres in Outer Space – Report by Sputnik

the other side of the bias source: (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-missiles-russia/russia-says-new-u-s-missile-strategy-will-unleash-arms-race-in-space-idUSKCN1PC1XG)
Reuters : Russia says new U.S. missile strategy will unleash arms race in space

Make of that what you will.

LeBrok
31-01-19, 19:01
Nobody saw Trump as an ideal candidate, far from it, but he at least came across as sincere in what he said he wanted to do (regardless of whether folk expected him to achieve his aims when confronted by the deep state, mass media and left-wing autism).

Given the choice between an honest buffoon and a cold, calculating, lying, morally-reprehensible, openly-warmongering career politician like Hillary Clinton I know which I would opt for.
It's just in your head, because facts are pointing to other direction, Trump being the one. 6 Trump's associates from pre election are in prison now, and more under investigation. Also there are not less than 17 open investigations against Trump himself. Not ideal candidate? The idiot "deal maker" with super senate can't get even a deal for his fence. I don't have time to mention his speech, logic, ethics, empathy, social, financial, business, and other impediments.

LeBrok
31-01-19, 19:15
Anyone can explain this:
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47061509)
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-schedule-white-house-president-twitter-work-oval-office-a8756356.html)

1. Trump told his Intel Chiefs to "go back to school" in yesterdays meeting.
2. Since January 1 he has had an average of 1 scheduled task a day. This means yesterdays meeting, was the only meeting in his Schedule.


We are talking about The President of the United States here.
It appears to me there might be some legal battle going in Washington behind the scenes. Since Democrats got the House, The President might be in some sort of "executive oversight", or colloquially speaking "timed out".

With all the fuss going on regarding WMD in Space, Venezuela, Russia Iran Turkey summit on the future of Syria...

Do you guys not think The President of the United States would have more than one meeting/thing on his schedule a day?

This is what makes me think things are much worse than anyone anticipates. Exact point how Trump is out of his depth and width and intellectual stamina of being a president, among countless other shortcomings. Not understanding well geopolitics doesn't help him either, nor it helps western world and our allies.

Salento
31-01-19, 19:42
“The Force” of fake news is Strong. :-)

It's a well-known fact that members of the Cabinet tend to dramatize to a degree. In case something goes wrong, to get more money for their Department, and to ensure the relevancy and importance of their Job.

None of the allegations of the Special Counsel is strictly against Trump. The vast majority of indictment against the President's associates date-back to the time of Neanderthal roaming the Earth.

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 20:09
I hope the Force is as fake as the Moon Landing, and the Military Satellite. (Edit: since easily miss-understandable... not saying Moon landing was fake, using sarcasm over text can backfire as I am reminded...)



Edit for the lul: Did they even have touch-screen in the first Start Wars franchise?


I know wikipedia is fake news... but:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars)

Contents




1Prosthetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Prosthetics)
2Solar power technology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Solar_power_technology)
3Robotics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Robotics)

3.1Civil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Civil)
3.2Military (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Military)


4Lasers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Lasers)
5Interstellar transport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Interstellar_transport)
6Rockets and missiles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Rockets_and_missiles)
7Force fields (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Force_fields) (Who knows? but probably not this one either)
8Biotechnology (cloning and genetic engineering) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Biotechnology_(cloning_and _genetic_engineering))
9Cybernetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Cybernetics)
10Levitation technology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Levitation_technology)
11Other explosive devices (non-propelled/non-laser) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Other_explosive_devices_(n on-propelled/non-laser))
12Tractor beams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Tractor_beams) (Not this one)
13Radios and other communications devices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Radios_and_other_communica tions_devices)
14Carbonite freezing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Carbonite_freezing) (Not this one)
15Computers and other artificial intelligence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Computers_and_other_artifi cial_intelligence)
16Holography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Holography)
17Artificial moons and planets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Artificial_moons_and_plane ts)
18Body armour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Body_armour)
19Other technologies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Other_technologies)

19.1Macrobinoculars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#Macrobinoculars)


20See also (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#See_also)
21References (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#References)

22External links (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Star_Wars#External_links)


But I can't fail to notice how almost everything in that list has been in development probably since before Star Wars was even a thing xD. Lastly, even the most bewildering imo, the Artificial Moon one has been speculated by the Chinese, along with quantum technology... Imagine having a "military satellite" and some malicious actor hacks it.

Not that I am paranoid for life xD, the material world barely sustains me, let alone entertaining me.



Further readings if anyone is into futurism:

(http://www.astronomy.com/news/2018/10/china-artificial-moons)

(https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612596/the-man-turning-china-into-a-quantum-superpower/)

(https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612715/electric-nanoparticles-can-target-and-kill-cancer-cells-by-zapping-them/)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_brnKz_2tI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_brnKz_2tI)) (Bionic prosthetics, one of hundreds of stories)

(https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610462/a-simple-artificial-heart-could-permanently-replace-a-failing-human-one/)

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/12/06/deepminds-alphazero-now-showing-human-like-intuition-creativity/amp/)

( (https://www.zdnet.com/article/googles-ai-surfs-the-gamescape-to-)https://www.zdnet.com/article/googles-ai-surfs-the-gamescape-to-conquer-game-theory/)

(http://news.mit.edu/2018/first-ionic-wind-plane-no-moving-parts-1121)



What I am really saying is that malicious actor doesn't really even have to be human...


Now... If we can use Neural networks to beat the absolute best e-sport athletes and pilots...(Alphago,Alphazero, The above Starcraft example) This AI is not dependent like humans on reaction time... can learn thousands of years over the course of a week of sparring with itself. Feels nice to develop it I bet... especially when you think it will be used against hostile actors. What I am really worried about is how much control "we" really have over the weapons we are developing.

By we, I don't mean east or west, I mean the whole of us.



Edit:About the military satellite... Considering US left the treaty regarding Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles... According to both U.S and Russian mouthpieces, the signal is pretty clear, there is an arms race going on. Conspiracy Theories are not generally public knowledge on the other hand.

Angela
31-01-19, 21:20
OMG. If it's not racists or ultra-nationalist Balkanists, it's conspiracy theorists.

The internet is a cesspool.

What the hell am I doing here?

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 21:26
OMG. If it's not racists or ultra-nationalist Balkanists, it's conspiracy theorists.

The internet is a cesspool.

What the hell am I doing here?

Handle yourself Angela... Your racism slipped. I expect better from an Advisor to this platform.

Edit: How I know you are racist? You would not even have had time to read the articles I provided as sources before making that statement. I love my culture but I ain't no Nationalist, I consider myself a Humanist first of all, if you really care to know... Seems you already made up your mind.

PS: I usually Ignore Racists. Especially Racists towards my people, or "Balkanists" whatever that means...

You can check the 1st or 2nd post of mine in this thread, I am not falling prey to provocateurs anymore. If you do not want to contribute to this thread... You do not have to insult poor "Balkanists".

Angela
31-01-19, 21:51
Handle yourself Angela... Your racism slipped. I expect better from an Advisor to this platform.

Edit: How I know you are racist? You would not even have had time to read the articles I provided as sources before making that statement. I love my culture but I ain't no Nationalist, I consider myself a Humanist first of all, if you really care to know... Seems you already made up your mind.

PS: I usually Ignore Racists. Especially Racists towards my people, or "Balkanists" whatever that means... You are in the same ignore list that Yetos and Markod are...

You can check the 1st or 2nd post of mine in this thread, I am not falling prey to provocateurs anymore. If you do not want to contribute to this thread... You do not have to insult poor "Balkanists".


I don't know you well enough to know whether you're a racist or an ultra-nationalist from the Balkans. The site is, however, inundated with them, mostly because they seem to be the most interested in population genetics, unfortunately, which is why the discipline is under fire so often.

I do know you're a conspiracy theorist.

Everything is not about you.

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 22:36
I don't know you well enough to know whether you're a racist or an ultra-nationalist from the Balkans. The site is, however, inundated with them, mostly because they seem to be the most interested in population genetics, unfortunately, which is why the discipline is under fire so often.

I do know you're a conspiracy theorist.

Everything is not about you.

Do you know anything beside ad-hominem? That's a pretty easy route. Make up a derogatory word, and put other posters in the category without point or reason.
Then you think to yourself... OH I got him good! Sure... Maybe other readers will buy it. I do not.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ad_hominem.png

Surely even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even if I was a "conspiracy theorist", that's not what this thread is about, of which you are absolutely right. This isn't about me.

Angela
31-01-19, 23:35
Any comment by someone who believes there was no moon landing can be safely ignored.

Archetype0ne
31-01-19, 23:48
I believe we have had a misunderstanding. I hope re-reading that sentence can clarify my intentions there. It was sarcasm... As in " I hope the Force is as fake as [juxtaposition] [moon landing:real] [military satellite: very real]". It was meant to be a gradient, contrast and point out that since the moon landing is most likely real, the military satellite is closer to the moon landing than to the "Force". I mean... the touch screen comment should have gave it away...

I believe the preconceptions you have of Balkan People as dumb ultra-nationalist conspiracy theorists is affecting the way you read my words.

One of the many weaknesses of language.

Angela
31-01-19, 23:58
I believe we have had a misunderstanding. I hope re-reading that sentence can clarify my intentions there. It was sarcasm... As in " I hope the Force is as fake as [juxtaposition] [moon landing:real] [military satellite: very real]". It was meant to be a gradient, contrast and point out that since the moon landing is most likely real, the military satellite is closer to the moon landing than to the "Force". I mean... the touch screen comment should have gave it away...

If I misjudged you, I apologize. I have to deal with so many nutters of various stripes on here (and today was a particularly trying day) that perhaps I was too quick on the trigger.

Not an excuse, but an explanation.

I hadn't even looked at your country flag. It was the moon landing thing that was like a red flag to a bull.

You think we don't have posters like that? Think again.

I'm going to pull out the old: my best friend...:

Happens to be true though...I have lots of friends from the Balkans, although mainly Dalmatia. My problem is neither with the area or the people, whom I happen to like a lot.

Salento
01-02-19, 00:07
BBC - AI Create Fake Obama, ... a tool to make phoney speeches

It can edit a video changing facial expressions and matching words.
It could be also used against a political opponent, and by fake news outlets.

... Artificial intelligence software could generate highly realistic fake videos of former president Barack Obama using existing audio and video clips of him, a new study ....

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-40598465/fake-obama-created-using-ai-tool-to-make-phoney-speeches

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/robotics/artificial-intelligence/ai-creates-fake-obama

LABERIA
01-02-19, 07:31
Assolutamente sì. 20.000 Cubans. It’s true. :)

... Cuba has since invested in and propped up the Venezuelan military and intelligence wings, according to many observers. And some estimates have indicated as many as 20,000 Cubans could be in the ranks of the Venezuelan security apparatus...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-deep-are-the-cracks-in-venezuelas-military
Ah, this means that Venezuela is controlled by foreigners now. Get ready for the show Salento.
Irony aside, i sincerely feel sorry for the Venezuelans. The worst thing that can happen is when your country turns to be the next battlefield between the Great Powers. It's terrible.

P.S.
BTW, did you noticed the name of the Venezuelan Defense Minister? Vladimir Padrino.

Archetype0ne
01-02-19, 11:30
(https://www.dw.com/en/instex-europe-sets-up-transactions-channel-with-iran/a-47303580)

"INSTEX: Europe sets up transactions channel with Iran

Germany, France and the UK have set up a payment channel with Iran called INSTEX, to help continue trade and circumvent US sanctions. Washington has cautioned EU nations against such actions."


Interesting development late yesterday.

Furthermore...

https://twitter.com/eu_eeas

Looking at the latest tweets. It seems there has been an EU-Japan trade agreement.

(https://twitter.com/Trade_EU/status/1090997744951590912)


(https://www.dw.com/en/eu-and-japan-create-worlds-biggest-free-trade-zone/a-47319521)


"EU and Japan create world's biggest free trade zoneAlmost all tariffs on trade between the European Union and the world's third-biggest economy have been removed. European companies could save around a billion euros in duties each year."




A "contact group" made of international sovereign entities has been established during the Foreign Ministers Meeting that started yesterday in Bucharest, regarding Venezuela.

(https://twitter.com/eu_eeas/status/1091040721044496384)


In those tweets there is bits of gold here and there.

I will be called a conspiracy theorist probably... But where is Romania geographically located? Pretty close to all the fun... Such "informal meeting" could have easily taken place in Berlin or Paris, but it did not...


"Gymnich meeting

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnich_meeting)


A Gymnich meeting is an informal meeting of the foreign ministers of the member states of the European Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union), organized according to the rotating Presidency of the Council of the European Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_the_Council_of_the_European_Union) since 1974 (every six months). The ministers are not accompanied by their assistants, which makes the condition easier for informal and frank exchange of views. The meeting practice received its name from the first of such meetings at Castle Gymnich in Erftstadt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erftstadt), Germany."




Also, anyone familiar with US media bias can tell me if The Daily Beast and BuzzFeed are among US govt. mouthpieces? I seem to read a lot of confidential news leak there... I believe the US security services are more professional than letting such leaks go on for months, that is what makes me think it is intentional.


(https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-abruptly-cancelled-trumps-meeting-with-intel-chiefs)

"The White House abruptly canceled President Donald Trump’s daily intelligence briefing on Wednesday, the morning after top intelligence officials testified before Congress, The Daily Beast has learned.
Reached for comment, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders simply said, “It was moved.” She did not go into further detail as to why and did not respond to follow-up inquiries."



(https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612421/us-china-quantum-arms-race/) by Massachusetts Institute of Technology magazine "Technology Review". Do not take my word for it... they are the leading source for tech, beyond Stanford or Harvard IMO.

China’s ambitions

CETC’s work is part of a long-term effort by China to turn itself into a world leader in quantum technology (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612596/the-man-turning-china-into-a-quantum-superpower/). The country is providing generous funding for new quantum research centers at universities and building a national research center for quantum science that’s slated to open in 2020. It’s already leaped ahead of the US in registering patents in quantum communications and cryptography (see chart).


https://img.datawrapper.de/KO3LV/plain.png


Last year a billion dollar company was created every 3.8 Days in China.


(https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-28/china-creates-fewer-tech-unicorns-as-economy-slows-down)
"China Created a New Tech Unicorn Every 3.8 Days Last YearBloomberg NewsJanuary 28, 2019, 5:25 AM GMT+1"

Either they are being flooded by $, which of course they are due to trade... thus inflating their companies valuations.
Either they really are heavily invested in tech... and its paying off heavily.

Could also be a combination of both.

"Unicorn SightingsChina's largest tech unicorns span industries from fintech and media to drones
https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iy8X_qVcWKaQ/v0/-1x-1.png


https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ijGNN7u4ce0M/v0/-1x-1.png

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iolWbFxD9Y5Q/v0/-1x-1.png

Salento
01-02-19, 14:28
@ArchetypeOne

I know that BuzzFeed's boss worked at the leftist Huffington-Post (Soros money)

The Political Operators working in the Government give classified, sensitive, and unverified informations to some of these news organizations, knowing that they will publish them.

To be fair, the Right does the same thing with other news/media outlets.

Salento
01-02-19, 15:06
Ah, this means that Venezuela is controlled by foreigners now. Get ready for the show Salento.
Irony aside, i sincerely feel sorry for the Venezuelans. The worst thing that can happen is when your country turns to be the next battlefield between the Great Powers. It's terrible.

P.S.
BTW, did you noticed the name of the Venezuelan Defense Minister? Vladimir Padrino.

The utopia of Socialist Equality has been completed.

Now the People of Venezuela are all Equally Miserables!
(Bigwigs apart)


'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'
- Margaret Thatcher -

Vladimir il Padrino! LoL

Archetype0ne
01-02-19, 15:44
To be honest... Socialism should not be a bogey word because Authoritarian donkeys* used it as a pretext to oppress people. Every system has its flaws. Especially in implementation. We can not blame socialism, which I define as valuing society more than the sum of its parts... for the shortcomings of human nature.

We have to realize all people are equal, and as such equally corruptible. Absolute power corrupts absolutely... The chair is the evil, the person in the chair becomes prey of the agency/institution.

However, we have made such strides in science in the last 70 years I believe we can use technology to create 100%+ self sufficient entities. Think vertical farming, alternative energy mining, service based economy.

I further believe we can use such tools to limit the power of any one entity through technological, fully transparent means. Think block-chain.

That for me is Idealized Socialism. Where the greatest value is human capital, and knowledge in a sea of unknowns and ignorance.

The Netherlands for example lacks land, they have to reclaim land from the sea, being already below sea level. "The low countries" is a designation for a reason.
However the Dutch are like the 3d biggest agricultural producer in the world. Far exceeding domestic needs.

If we could organize society in a way where all individual actors incentives are aligned, while using technological strides to increase efficiency in energy, food production, education, medicine I am sure a new Zeitgeist would approach. Edit so I don't get misunderstood: I believe capitalism is the best possible system at the moment. Capitalism and Socialism are not mutually exclusive in my opinion. You can have life liberty and property (pursuit of happiness) in Norway too... despite it being a socialist leaning society, and operating very efficiently in the capitalistic system.

Very beautiful read from 2005 on how Norway nationalized their oil reserves into a sovereign wealth fund, the biggest in the world atm.
(https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113340298608010935) Paraphrasing: They had the best mathematicians, economists, financial analysts, engineers, or anyone to provide good answers. What the Norwegian govt. did not know was the questions to ask. Hence they hired some British philosopher (IIRC) to frame the problem in the right question. And then answered it: Sell the oil, put the receipts into a National Sovereign Wealth Fund and invest it in the market. Such brilliant socialism, and such brilliant capitalism at the same time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGTzbj3fRSw

Michael Moore video was the shortest so excuse me for providing this guy as a source. Since I know he can be politically divisive. Don't mind the presenter, mind the content of the video.

(https://www.nbim.no/) Fund Web Page...

https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/20170923_WOC555_0.png


https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/1280x868/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fniallmccarthy%2Ffiles%2F2017%2 F09%2F20170922_SWF.jpg

We can see how the 5 Million Nation of Norway is punching much above its weight with competitors such as USA, China and Russia.http://geocurrents.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Sovereign-Wealth-Fund-map.png


But then again, I know my weaknesses as an Idealist and hopeless Romanticist. xD

Salento
01-02-19, 15:56
Pure Socialism is unnatural, we are made to compete against each other.
We are not all alike, some have more talent than others.

I saw my Eastern neighbors running away at the end of a failed Socialist experiment.
Surely they had a very valid motive to do that.

Archetype0ne
01-02-19, 16:13
There is this beautiful parable by Jesus. In my opinion 2000 years ahead of its time. The parable regarding the mustard seed.

What I read into the words, is Pareto Efficiency. It is found everywhere in nature. 20-80% rule etc... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_efficiency)



Meaning, I completely agree with you, not everyone is created equal. There is statistical variation in performance etc... But.
I am not speaking about equality of outcome, as I am completely against such forms of redistribution. They only do harm and Communism was proof of this.

What I am implying is, since people are different, have different talents and abilities, each one focuses on their strength and attempts to minimize their weaknesses. And when they come together in society the sum of their unity is more than the sum of their individual contributions.

So... Communism and equality of outcome... F no!
Socialism, and valuing human life and the sum of society.While allowing each individual to have equity of opportunity in a meritocratic society. For me: Yes, please!

Communism does not work with Capitalism.
Socialism as I defined it, and Nordic countries as they apply it, certainly is compatible with Capitalism.

Further edit:It breaks my heart when I think how many talented people do not have the opportunity to go to Higher Education because they have to provide for their existence/family. Also, my elders had to go through Communism first hand... so I know a thing or two about its Evil...

Salento
01-02-19, 16:24
You mentioned a Parable of Jesus.
Ironically in many socialist/communist nations the religion was suppressed.
Many were lucky not to end up Nailed to a Cross too, others were not.


I know many people like your Elders, my Father hired many of them, they crossed the Adriatic between San Cataldo - San Foca - Otranto at first. They told us their stories.

LeBrok
01-02-19, 17:40
You mentioned a Parable of Jesus.
Ironically in many socialist/communist nations the religion was suppressed.
Many were lucky not to end up Nailed to a Cross too, others were not.


I know many people like your Elders, my Father hired many of them, they crossed the Adriatic between San Cataldo - San Foca - Otranto at first. They told us their stories.
Mind that one can have capitalist and free market economy and rich social help structure at same time. One doesn't collide much with the other, like in scandinavian countries or like in Canada. The best of 2 worlds.

Salento
01-02-19, 18:17
Mind that one can have capitalist and free market economy and rich social help structure at same time. One doesn't collide much with the other, like in scandinavian countries or like in Canada. The best of 2 worlds.

I'm not against all social programs, things happen, a “temporary” help for the citizens in need, it’s fine, Medicare and Social Security after a certain age too. (US nomenclatures)

I'm against abuses of Free this, and Free that at Taxpayers ' expenses.

Even Bloomberg and the Starbucks guy agree with this. (Lately)

Canada and ... the best of the 2 Worlds. Really? :laughing:

Salento
01-02-19, 18:42
The Exceptionality of a Nation, should never be confused as being Superior to another!

Archetype0ne
01-02-19, 19:45
And my fears are not that far fetched:

(https://www.dw.com/en/us-announces-withdrawal-from-inf-missile-treaty/a-47323488)


"US announces withdrawal from INF missile treaty

The US has begun its withdrawal from the INF treaty with Russia. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Berlin would continue talking with Moscow about its alleged violations until the withdrawal process was finished."

Interesting read. Seems the US is giving Russia 6 months to comply with requests. But considering the Military Satellite fear Russia is facing this will only escalate further the arms race.

Interesting 3 min Video:

(https://www.dw.com/en/maas-inf-treaty-no-longer-working/av-47330241)
Includes segments from Pompeo, US under-secretary Thompson, Putin and Maas(German Foreign Minister).

Maas: " The treaty is de-facto suspended"

@LeBrok Interestingly enough Canada and Russia are the two countries that gain the most from the status quo of Climate Change (note: still net losers overall due to the nature of the global economy). Canada's Northern Coast alone can be a "new world" with a couple of degrees up on the global thermometer. Thing is Canada would need a lot of Human Capital to populate, connect and develop the area.

https://www.mapsofworld.com/canada/maps/canada-map.jpghttps://safety4sea.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Canada-map-generic.jpg

exceededminimumso..
02-02-19, 12:16
OMG. If it's not racists or ultra-nationalist Balkanists, it's conspiracy theorists.

The internet is a cesspool.

What the hell am I doing here?

Fighting global feminist left wing liberal conspiracy?

exceededminimumso..
02-02-19, 12:28
The utopia of Socialist Equality has been completed.

Now the People of Venezuela are all Equally Miserables!
(Bigwigs apart)


Old Decabrist's widow asks maid about the noise on the streets "oh, it's bolshevik demonstration, they demand that there would be no rich" "Weird, my late husband fought that there would be no poor"

Archetype0ne
04-02-19, 17:33
(https://www.dw.com/en/eu-nations-get-behind-venezuelas-juan-guaido-as-acting-president/a-47348321)

"EU nations get behind Venezuela's Juan Guaido as acting presidentThe EU is increasing the pressure on Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro to call early elections, after a raft of member states recognized opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president."

...

"The coordinated move to recognize Guaido by France, Spain, Germany, Britain, Portugal, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland and Luxembourg comes after the expiry of an eight-day ultimatum for Maduro to call a new election."

...

Yetos
04-02-19, 18:12
there hasbeen a veto as concern EU unified policy.

So until now EU is out of Venezuela problems,

ONLY PROPOSALS.

Archetype0ne
04-02-19, 19:40
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47106204

Pope Francis arrives on historic visit to UAE (Abu Dhabi)
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47106204)
https://www.thenational.ae/uae/the-pope-in-the-uae/papal-visit-pope-francis-in-abu-dhabi-to-mark-a-historic-day-for-inter-faith-relations-as-it-happened-1.821471



GG

LABERIA
04-02-19, 21:30
The Balkans -The Next Tinderbox (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/258561)
After its military interventions in Ukraine and Syria,will Russia invade the Balkans next?



http://k6s3v6r4.ssl.hwcdn.net/pictures/817/817118.jpg
Dr. Joseph Frager

Ever since Serbia declared war on the Ottoman Empire in 1876, the Balkans have been one of the most incendiary of conflicts in the world. After Syria the next big conflagration could well be the Balkans.

With Russia flexing its muscles all over the globe including its invasion of Crimea (which it annexed) and the Ukraine in 2014, and establishing a joint military campaign with Bashar Assad in Syria in 2015, there is grave concern that Putin’s next move will be an invasion of the Balkans.

Most remember that the Balkans sparked the outbreak of World War I with the assassination of the heir to the throne of Austria Hungary Archduke Franz Ferdinand on June 28th, 1914 by a Bosnian Serb nineteen year old Gavrilo Princip.

The Balkan Peninsula consists of Albania, Bosnia&Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia all formerly under Communist control and Greece and European Turkey with a capitalist past. It is situated at the crossroads of three major empires:1)The Ottoman Empire, 2)Russian, and 3)Austri-Hungarian.

It is best known today for the fact that the First Lady, Melania Trump is from the Balkan Country of Slovenia. It is also possible that the First Lady will play a significant role in preventing bloodshed in the Balkans.

In the past 20 years, the main conflict was seen in Kosovo. The so called “Tomahawk Diplomacy” of President Bill Clinton ended the conflict in 1999. The Kosovo War began in February of 1998 and ended in June of 1999. It was fought by forces of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Montenegro and Serbia) which controlled Kosovo before the War against the Kosovo Albanian rebel group-Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) with air support from NATO and ground support from the Albanian Army. President Clinton’s Tomahawk Diplomacy forced Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to halt his brutal siege of Kosovo and negotiate with the province’s ethnic Albanians.

Presently, the Russians are itching to invade the Balkans in order to gain a stranglehold on Central Europe and the Mediterranean. One of its prime targets is Albania which is the window to the Mediterranean from Russia. Putin is trying to resurrect the former USSR which held dominion over the Balkans.

Under President Obama, the Russians were allowed to invade Crimea, the Ukraine and hold sway in Syria. It was a colossal foreign policy disaster for America and the world. It is now up to President Trump to prevent further Russian aggression.

Putin so far has been kept at bay. He is former KGB so he will pick the moment the President is least expecting, to invade the Balkans. The President and his administration must be on high alert to prevent the Balkans from becoming another Tinderbox.

Yetos
05-02-19, 04:02
Well if you have loser Ambassador like Geofrey Pyatt, in Ukraine, and now in Greece.
the one who travel at Skopjie to observe-behold the votes of Fyrom parliamental, from inside the parliament

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

It is obvious that wrong handling of Geofrey Pyatt, as also the strange will of 'first citizen of the world' G Soros,
make easy the way to Russia to annex Crimaia,
and possible make it easy again for another war the biased illegal by both sides Prespes treaty
Remember Pisoderi is the place where Communism stop to expand,
where Greek civil war ended

PS 1
except if both have an agreement to start a fight in Balkans, just to sell guns, as in Syrria


PS2
The Laussane treaty today is violated
Turkey has occupied Afrin which is a land under Laussane treaty.
But nobody is saying something
may I remind you that violation of Laussane treaty means back to Sevres treaty,
upon which Albania must give Epirus back to Greece,
or a new war era.


The loser of Ukraine and Crimaia
NOW PROMOTES A NEW WAR AT BALKANS
https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images/102514/39/1025143973.jpg



The Laussane treaty
http://www.hri.org/docs/lausanne/turkey.gif

LABERIA
05-02-19, 06:42
Greek PM Tsipras Says “Historic Steps” Needed in Turkish Relations (https://greece.greekreporter.com/2019/02/04/greek-pm-tsipras-says-historic-steps-needed-in-turkish-relations/amp/)

Archetype0ne
05-02-19, 07:04
Putin is way to smart to mess around.
"Putin Vows 'Immediate and Symmetrical' Response If U.S. Withdraws From Cold War Arms Treaty"




(https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-immediate-symmetrical-response-arms-treaty/28804637.html)

Salento
05-02-19, 07:28
maybe, but Russia has NO money, Putin is a shorty-man with a BIG Mouth.
Putin is going to do the opposite of what he said.
He will never tell us his real strategic plans.

Strategery LoL

Boreas
05-02-19, 14:02
maybe, but Russia has NO money, Putin is a shorty-man with a BIG Mouth.
Putin is going to do the opposite of what he said.
He will never tell us his real strategic plans.

Strategery LoL

He didn't give the Syria, He took the Crimea and East Ukraine.

Calling him short man with big mouth is not something I can agree.

Salento
05-02-19, 14:16
Putin is 5’ 7” (or so he says), Melania Trump 5’ 11”, LoL

Archetype0ne
05-02-19, 15:45
Guys wtheck* is this talk about Putins height? Are you really implying height means crap* when you are at the head of an Empire?

Napoleon would have you... for subordination.

XD

On a more serious note, Russia might have no money, but they sure have been stacking up on Gold past couple of years:

https://sputniknews.com/business/201811031069477784-russia-turkey-china-gold-record-pace/

^From Sputnik you will notice

"Why Russia, Turkey and China Are Buying Gold at Record Pace"

Also from western media:

http://fortune.com/2018/11/01/global-gold-buying-high/


"Global Gold Buying Has Reached a Nearly 3-Year High, Led by Russia"

...

That looks like "embargo/sanction" insurance... can you blame the rest of the world?

Nevertheless, Putin could be 5ft talk and still "press the button", one could be 8 ft tall and get disappeared.

PS: 1 Billion in Gold got disappeared from Venezuela.

"https://www.voanews.com/a/mystery-deepens-over-venezuela-gold/4769065.html"

"https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/turkey-told-to-end-gold-trade-with-venezuela-lsbht2fl6"

"http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0005520688"

Edit: Petition to call 1 billion in gold a Bullion. xD

bullionDictionary result for bullion


/ˈbʊlj(ə)n/ (b->B)
noun
noun: bullion


1.
gold or silver in bulk before coining, or valued by weight.
"gold bullion"

Salento
05-02-19, 17:03
Russia is a declining Empire, and tries to still be relevant by grabbing what ever it can.
I'm much more concerned of the rising Tiger of East Asia.

More or less we tolerate Russia cos of the Nukes, is becoming more and more isolated, and has no financial teeth.

Look at the Unholy Russia Allies: Syria, Iran, Cuba, ... Maduro.

.. Tell me who you're going with, and I’ll to tell you who you are!


@Archetype0ne You completely missed my point.

Salento
05-02-19, 19:17
part 2:

... Stands to show how desperate for consensus the Ruskies really are.

Anfänger
05-02-19, 20:10
Putin is way to smart to mess around.
"Putin Vows 'Immediate and Symmetrical' Response If U.S. Withdraws From Cold War Arms Treaty"


I don´t see Russia capable of surviving an arms race between the US and them. Actually this is bad news for Putin because he now will have less money to spent for modernising the Russian economy.

LABERIA
05-02-19, 20:20
I don´t see Russia capable of surviving an arms race between the US and them. Actually this is bad news for Putin because he now will have less money to spent for modernising the Russian economy.
You are absolutely right, but with one condition, a new Ronald Reagan as President.

Archetype0ne
05-02-19, 20:42
I don´t see Russia capable of surviving an arms race between the US and them. Actually this is bad news for Putin because he now will have less money to spent for modernising the Russian economy.

If you notice what I emboldened in that sentence you will get why I said he is smart.

His reply with "symmetric" in the sentence implies a game of mirror chess, and not a game of escalation.

That's why I said Putin is too smart to mess around. He knows the fact he can not survive an arms race very well, hence he tries to make the best of the situation, with " They did it, so we do it, but not more".

But yea, I get your point.... There is a limit to symmetric responses, with asymmetric resources.

Yetos
05-02-19, 20:50
hmm

until 4 years ago in Greece we had a more open TV,
today under Pappas threat of canceling the licences all we hear,
is what they us to hear,

But I think there are many smart people here in Forum,

So I ask,

is this money or Not?

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.06/article/5b19a2d8dda4c85c2c8b456b.jpg


why USA and Tramp are angry against Turkey who wants to buy them?
why everybody who knows admits that S400 is better

plz guys,
among the military power and the ADVERTISING OF WEAPONS,
we are Sure only that some powers have advanced technology or anti-weapons

I still am afraid of a bear when wounded, a wolf at January, or even a snake when step its tail.


we are smart enough,
so not fail in such news


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXJ9fkAJ340



BESIDES, BY I WHAT WE ALL HAVE SEEN IN IRAQ, SYRRIA, UKRAINE/CRIMAIA,
is the game of fear, and nerve testing.
Johny fears the monster, and the monster fears Johny,
who is Johny and who is monster!!!


oh since some are Christians here,
Gomer will ever mone?

Salento
05-02-19, 23:51
You are absolutely right, but with one condition, a new Ronald Reagan as President.

Reagan was ridiculed and attacked by the Left, the Right and the Press, brutally and relentlessly.

Sound Familiar?

I was not here, but from what I hear, He too was seen as an outsider and labeled unfit to be President.

Now it’s much worse because of Social-Media and the Internet.

It took 10 years for Reagan to be SANCTFIED (for the Right).

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just asking to keep that in mind next time you read or listen to Opinionated-Media.

We'll find out in 10 years. :smile: (se Dio vuole) lol

Angela
06-02-19, 00:54
Reagan was ridiculed and attacked by the Left, the Right and the Press, brutally and relentlessly.

Sound Familiar?

I was not here, but from what I hear, He too was seen as an outsider and labeled unfit to be President.

Now it’s much worse because of Social-Media and the Internet.

It took 10 years for Reagan to be SANCTFIED (for the Right).

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just asking to keep that in mind next time you read or listen to Opinionated-Media.

We'll find out in 10 years. :smile: (se Dio vuole) lol

Every, single, Republican politician is ridiculed in that way. If they went to Harvard or Yale then they find something else. Look at Ted Cruz. Well, maybe he isn't the best example. He's a weasel and I can't think of anyone who has ever had a good word to say for him.

I do have to say, Salento, that Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

LABERIA
06-02-19, 06:14
Greek premier arrives in Turkey for two-day visit (http://www.ekathimerini.com/237369/article/ekathimerini/news/greek-premier-arrives-in-turkey-for-two-day-visit)

matty74
06-02-19, 06:27
Reagan was ridiculed and attacked by the Left, the Right and the Press, brutally and relentlessly.

Sound Familiar?

I was not here, but from what I hear, He too was seen as an outsider and labeled unfit to be President.

Now it’s much worse because of Social-Media and the Internet.

It took 10 years for Reagan to be SANCTFIED (for the Right).

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just asking to keep that in mind next time you read or listen to Opinionated-Media.

We'll find out in 10 years. :smile: (se Dio vuole) lol

Reagan did more damage to the "left" than any other president in history. There's a reason why the left and the media assaults Trump on a daily basis. He's a danger to them and their narrative.

matty74
06-02-19, 06:35
Every, single, Republican politician is ridiculed in that way. If they went to Harvard or Yale then they find something else. Look at Ted Cruz. Well, maybe he isn't the best example. He's a weasel and I can't think of anyone who has ever had a good word to say for him.

I do have to say, Salento, that Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

He's well-known as an excellent debater but lets be honest here. Political success is about political capital such as looks and charisma. Cruz does not have an electable face. I'd be willing to bet that Cruz is much different person that how he's perceived by his peers and the media. Also look at Hilary Clinton, lets not kid ourselves here, her appearance on TV did not help her cause at all. Kennedy, Bush Jr., Bill Clinton, Reagan etc., were all people whose appearances translated well on television. Our 1st female president is probably going to be an attractive woman and it is often hypothesized that attractive people are often more successful.

https://www.businessinsider.com/attractive-people-are-more-successful-2012-

https://medium.com/swlh/attractive-people-are-more-likely-to-be-trusted-elected-and-listened-to-a0735869d2e8

Salento
06-02-19, 07:24
@matty74 :thinking:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/Angela_Merkel._Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg/165px-Angela_Merkel._Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg

The Brain Wins too!

matty74
06-02-19, 07:43
Regarding Merkel, the Germans have a history of electing ugly leaders. ;)

10706

10707

LABERIA
06-02-19, 12:43
Greek premier arrives in Turkey for two-day visit (http://www.ekathimerini.com/237369/article/ekathimerini/news/greek-premier-arrives-in-turkey-for-two-day-visit)

Someone down voted me for this post. I am curious to know the logic behind this decision.

Archetype0ne
06-02-19, 14:03
Someone down voted me for this post. I am curious to know the logic behind this decision.

Gave you an up! I am, as tired as you, of Gr**k Nationalists down-voting facts. Who else(?) would down-vote a news article, LMAO.
Not saying that is logic... cause I do not expect logic from these people anymore. They lost the art 3d century BC.
When you see down-votes on this comment too, you will understand I am right.

Too bad IDFC about infamy.


Merkel studies:

"Merkel was educated at Karl Marx University, Leipzig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leipzig_University), where she studied physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics) from 1973 to 1978.[30] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel#cite_note-Ruetter,_Werner,_Who's_Afraid_of_Merkel-31) "

"Merkel worked and studied at the Central Institute for Physical Chemistry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Chemistry) of the Academy of Sciences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Academy_of_Sciences_Berlin) in Berlin-Adlershof (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlershof) from 1978 to 1990. At first she and her husband squatted (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting) in Mitte.[42] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel#cite_note-43) After being awarded a doctorate (Dr. rer. nat. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._rer._nat.)) for her thesis on quantum chemistry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_chemistry) in 1986,[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel#cite_note-44) she worked as a researcher and published several papers.[44 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel#cite_note-45)"



Physical Chemistry, and Quantum Chemistry. That def requires brains.

Archetype0ne
06-02-19, 20:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yJ-yse9g0

Key moments from President Trump's 2019 State of the Union

7:43 XDDD

Sry Mr. Trump I am going with Einstein on this one...

http://www.exponentialimprovement.com/cms/uploads/Einstein%20on%20Why%20Socialism.pdf

Why Socialism? by Albert EinsteinThis essay was originally published in the first issueof Monthly Review (May 1949)

Yetos
06-02-19, 20:17
your friend guys

https://www.tovima.gr/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/06/gata-1.jpg

Salento
06-02-19, 20:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yJ-yse9g0
Key moments from President Trump's 2019 State of the Union
7:43 XDDD
Sry Mr. Trump I am going with Einstein on this one...
http://www.exponentialimprovement.com/cms/uploads/Einstein%20on%20Why%20Socialism.pdf
Why Socialism? by Albert EinsteinThis essay was originally published in the first issueof Monthly Review (May 1949)


fyi Einstein became a USA Citizen in 1940.


... America will NEVER be a Socialist Country 👏

👏 we are born Free and we will stay Free! 👏


https://youtu.be/HUQJdcYrya4

Archetype0ne
06-02-19, 21:00
He wrote that in the US IIRC. So?

Salento
06-02-19, 21:12
He wrote that in the US IIRC. So?

So What? Einstein came to America didn’t he?

and He loved it here!

He could have chosen to go anywhere in the World, he was Smart and chose the USA.

not exactly a Socialist place.

Salento
06-02-19, 22:16
Let’s not recycle old events to Inject Subliminal Propaganda in the Thread.

Archetype0ne
06-02-19, 22:35
I get how you feel bro. You probably work hard, pay taxes etc... and are thinking Socialism will tax you more, and give it to people who don't deserve it.

The issue is not you... IMO the issue is that the 0.001 not only do not pay taxes... they get subsidized with your tax dollar, ask Walmart or Tesla... or even Trump when his statements come out, mark my words. The problem is that 0.001 owns what? 50%? 90%? Who knows.... its all in Panama.

The game is rigged from the start, but not by the "freeloading" marginalized class you are thinking about... neither by aliens. The hardest working people I knew when I lived in the US were Mexicans and Brazilians. Paying their taxes, just like your average Joe. Some of them even illegal, paid their taxes, without getting Social Security or 401k like the rest of ya'll. While doing the toughest, least recognized jobs. No... The game is rigged the other way around... you are misjudging your friend for your enemy.

Remember Italians at one point were Emigrants too, no? Just like the Irish? Or the German... Or even the British...

Next thing you know... US exceptionalism (American Dream, haven't heard that in a while...) was built by hard working immigrants looking for a better life.
Just like Einstein don't you think? He surely contributed to your society by writing letters about The Bomb warning your President.

If he was right about The Bomb... Why are you discounting him so easily, just because he emigrated to the US? You think he didn't know the Nazi's (National Socialists) well enough?
He knew fully well whats up... yet was not fooled by smoke and mirrors. The robe does not make the priest, neither the wool the sheep.

If all the immigrants the US houses left... Imagine who would clean your streets and toilets? Or mow your lawn... Or bag your groceries...
Still the most hated category... SMH. Meanwhile the 0.000001% XD... making money whichever way the wind blows.

Socialism is about investing in human capital and society as a whole. Give your teachers and servers a chance will ya? Not everyone can be Trump or Paul Ryan xD
That 1 Trillion tax cut sure did help you guys out... L: I mean the 0.0001 of you. Its going to feel worse in 4 years once the stimulus wears out... and the bill is footed by the taxpayer.

Archetype0ne
07-02-19, 00:14
Putins rhetoric changed fast... (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/world/europe/russia-hypersonic-missiles.html)
Putin Warns That Russia Is Developing ‘Invincible’ Hypersonic Missiles


On the other hand:

(https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-oil-idUSKCN1PV2CA)

Venezuelan opposition readies U.S. fund to receive oil revenue

Salento
07-02-19, 05:53
EDITED—-
Remember this,
I can do Propaganda too!

It's no secret, but only in the appropriate Threads.

Sometimes as in this case, I engage with those who do.

Salento
07-02-19, 15:05
France recalls ambassador to Italy ... attacks from Rome!

... "unprecedented since the end of the war"...

https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/07/france-recalls-ambassador-to-italy-for-consultations-amid-unprecedented-attacks-from-rome

LABERIA
07-02-19, 18:56
Putin’s Witches: They cast spells for the country to be powerful (video) (http://en.protothema.gr/putins-witches-they-cast-spells-for-the-country-to-be-powerful-video/)

P. S.
Salento, be careful.

Salento
07-02-19, 20:28
Putin’s Witches: They cast spells for the country to be powerful (video) (http://en.protothema.gr/putins-witches-they-cast-spells-for-the-country-to-be-powerful-video/)

P. S.
Salento, be careful.

I'm touching iron :petrified:, e mi sto grattando le .... at the same time. LOL

Archetype0ne
08-02-19, 19:35
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-08/mysterious-turkish-firm-helped-maduro-move-900-million-in-gold

So it was not the US... that moved it. I am surprised. Turkey? WOW.
Mysterious Turkish Firm Helped Maduro Move $900 Million in GoldBloomberg NewsFebruary 8, 2019, 11:10 AM GMT+1


Meanwhile, if you want to catch this live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4wjmr18Noo

Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker Testifies Before House Judiciary Committee | LIVE | TIME

Archetype0ne
09-02-19, 17:27
(https://www.dw.com/en/hundreds-of-russian-and-chinese-spies-in-brussels-report/a-47437958)

Hundreds of Russian and Chinese spies in Brussels — reportThe EU's de facto capital is teeming with Russian and Chinese spies, according to officials cited by a German newspaper. Diplomats have reportedly been told to avoid certain eateries in the European quarter.

Salento
11-02-19, 14:41
SpaceX’s Starship engine breaks Russian rocketry record held for two decades

... Known as combustion chamber pressure, Raptor has reportedly surpassed a modern Russian engine known as the RD-180 ...

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-engine-breaks-russian-record-extraordinary-test-series/amp/

imo Regardless of reasons, the advancement of space technology it’s the triumph of human ingenuity, transcend nations, Even when the space advancement is reached by a for-profit private company like Tesla, where loyalty lies in its stock holders.

We need more Investors like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos to get ME in to SPACE for cheap. :grin:

Yetos
11-02-19, 17:13
nah :useless:
I think we need more alien minds, :laughing: :laughing:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwBaLg6VYAAMeaJ.jpg:large



:grin: :grin: :grin:


Oups sorry, out of thread, but could not resist

Salento
11-02-19, 17:34
@Yetos
Thank you for supporting Alien Minds 👽
They used to call me Legal ALIEN not too long ago lol :grin:

http://i.imgur.com/oBUKwTk.jpg

Yetos
11-02-19, 19:28
@Yetos
Thank you for supporting Alien Minds 
They used to call me Legal ALIEN not too long ago lol :grin:

http://i.imgur.com/oBUKwTk.jpg


as long as you do not touch my wife, :angry:
you are welcome to our planet. :thinking:



BTW,

the ex-USSR space bus,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=120&v=0tCeUNGXvYg


This space program had no failure, :good_job:
cause it was never ignited, :grin:

Salento
11-02-19, 20:43
as long as you do not touch my wife, :angry:
you are welcome to our planet. :thinking:
BTW,
the ex-USSR space bus,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=120&v=0tCeUNGXvYg
This space program had no failure, :good_job:
cause it was never ignited, :grin:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

🍺 🍺

going back to topic :)

Salento
14-02-19, 15:59
Mars Rover Opportunity
sols 5340 to 5346
July 7, 2003 - Feb. 13 2019

Goodnight, Oppy!

R I P

https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/

Yetos
14-02-19, 23:54
oups.

The loser dictator wants it all.

https://dimpenews.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/ce9aceb1cf84ceb1ceb3ceb3cf85ceb3ceb8ceb3ceb8.png?w =760



WHAT IS NEXT mr PYATT?

AFTER YOU ORDER GREEKS TO FORGET AND CHANGE THEIR HISTORY?
YOU WOULD FORCE GREEKS TO CHANGE THEIR RELIGION NOW?

BURN IN HELL you ....


for those who did not know mt Athos is a special case from 900 AD
respected even by Mohammed 2nd and Suleiman the magnificent
mt Athos, is the 'desert ' of all over the world orthodox christians,
no matter patriarchate, bishopry, etc,
no matter language, no matter callendar,
driven by a council of 24 elder monks,
from all over the world,

no matter I am not one of them,
I consider it sacriledge to enter political games there.

remember at Athos exists

Greek monasteries,
Greek old faith brotherhood
Serbian monastery
Albanian tower
Bulgarian monastery
Romanian skete
Cyprus brotherhoods
Russian monastery
Russian old faith brotherhood
Gergian origin brotherhoods, (ex-monastery)
American monks/cells
Swiss monks/cells
ukrainan monks/cells
African monks/cells
etc.

it is like a conclave of monks,
which always was seperated from the world,
You need special license to enter there.
and in some cells they do not have even (connected) electricity water petroleum etc.

Archetype0ne
19-02-19, 18:19
(https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/19/michael-flynn-saudi-arabia-1174531)

House report lays bare White House feud over Saudi nuclear push
By ZACK COLMAN (https://www.politico.com/staff/zach-colman)
02/19/2019 11:00 AM EST

(https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/flynn-backed-plan-transfer-nuclear-tech-saudis-may-have-broken-n973021)

Flynn-backed plan to transfer nuclear tech to Saudis may have broken laws, say whistleblowersInvestigators fear President Trump is still considering the plan, which was pushed by Flynn and Trump friend Tom Barrack.

Yetos
25-02-19, 19:16
Interesting,
VERY INTERESTING

the known Albanian pub show, I exclude many Albanian forum members from that,
but there are few who are only interesting in throw mud, and 'inform' us only what they want to be ingormed,

told even what BBC says, what Putin says, what whoever says,
especially Laberia is the news broadcaster about Greece,

BUT I WONDER?

why Laberia and ArchetypeOne,
do not tell us what is going on in Albania and Kossovo?
Isn't it 'recent geo-plitical' ?
https://www.mononews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/edi-rama.jpg



OUCH !! is it permanent? did it heart?


BUT OFFCOURSE,

Αισωπος, Aesop the known Greek storyteller,
had already warned us why this happens,

Hermes give 2 bags to every person,
the one with the good talents was 'huged' infront.
the one with the bad talents and sins is hanged at the back,

Offcourse, some people here see only the other people's back,
cause surely can not see their own,


offcourse :laughing: what is going on now in Albania, :shocked:
is not a 'recent geo-political development' :grin: :grin:

really, I wonder why we were not informed in Forum :thinking: :thinking:


the doctor gave his daughter a serious % of JP MORGAN
the short export his money to Greece Cyprus and from there who knows where
the alcoolic is moving his money to Turkey and Australia (long live Sorros and his foundations :laughing: :laughing:)

big 'laundry guys, the poorest estimations talk about 600 millions E


psst Laberia were is your friend?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZP7Pn64Shk&feature=player_embedded

LABERIA
25-02-19, 19:53
Salento, the last speech of Salvini:
We must beat Soros like Scanderbeg the Turks

https://shqiperiaebashkuar.al/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/FF423443-9F88-4D8A-98A0-93F20AF2C881-660x330.jpeg
Watch the video inside the article:
https://360grade.al/220681/video-matteo-salvini-te-mundim-sorosin-ashtu-si-skenderbeu-turqit/

Salento
25-02-19, 20:12
@LABERIA

That rich man is a horrible human being.

And that's what I think of that Politician:

http://i.imgur.com/YdMm3rB.jpg%5B/IMG%5D

LOL

Archetype0ne
25-02-19, 20:38
Please stop spreading political hate. Our ancestors lived alongside each other over Millennia, and built great things. But also made mistakes.


Lets learn from these mistakes of the "very recent" past. That is what history should be about, and that is what "Know Yourself" really means.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Roman-mosaic-know-thyself.jpg/800px-Roman-mosaic-know-thyself.jpg

"English: Memento Mori mosaic from excavations in the convent of San Gregorio, Via Appia, Rome, Italy. Now in the National Museum Bath of Diocletian, Rome, Italy. The Greek motto gnōthi sauton (know thyself, nosce te ipsum) combines with the image to convey the famous warning: Respice post te; hominem te esse memento; memento mori. (Look behind; remember that you are mortal; remember death.)"




Et Pluribus Unum.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201103/e-pluribus-unum-becomes-controversial

https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half/public/blogs/55672/2011/03/55919-47733.png?itok=LcxsWHvR
http://triviahappy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/leviathancover.jpg

http://mythfolklore.net/aesopica/milowinter/13.htm
https://i.imgur.com/1oDKzB2.png
^Skenderbeg told this fable to the Albanian Nobles. In history he was the only "politician" to unite them.


Only united we are consequential. Network effect has made it possible for 1-2Billion people today to have better living standards, that Alexander the great himself, could not have dreamed. What about 7Billion united? Networking effect would pay of.

All that is needed is good faith/intentions and reason.

Per Aspera Ad Astra

LABERIA
25-02-19, 21:02
Please stop spreading political hate.
Just ignore his presence and everything will be fine. Ignoring the trollls is the best medicine for them.

Yetos
26-02-19, 07:41
what I see here?

when sorros is supporting 'our campaign' is a good man,
but after, when corruption is over, we must stop him?

https://www.dimokratianews.gr/sites/default/files/styles/inner_top_full_width/public/10_f1_2_0.jpg?itok=GDGke7Km

well the 600 million might already fled from Albania to Australia and Turkey.

how typical !!!!!

I wonder ? stop Sorros means get rid Rama? or the others?

besides Frankfurt news, say something,
what do they say? search.


WHAT SORROS RAMA VOUSIC and an old worker (employ ) of Sooros from Fyrom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnlO6VzAG8

Salento
26-02-19, 15:19
@Yetos
György is a Trickster.

György makes you believe he's helping you, but he's actually going to ruin you.

György is Speculator, he targets a Nation to squeeze, buys tons of the Currency (Forex), other investors follow, they artificially raise the exchange rate of the currency, AND THEN: all of a sudden, György starts Selling Everything.

The value of the Currency goes drastically down, Investors sell their stocks, the Market Crash, Banks stop lending money, Factories and Businesses shut down, workers get fired, ...

Right or Wrong, that’s how György rolls.

I warned you, don't fall into his trap, György is not your Friend.

You can thank me for the advice anytime you like. LOL :)

Yetos
26-02-19, 22:15
I agree Salento.

I agree,

but money is sweat,
and politicians to day are not politicians,
they are fortune hunters,

Yetos
26-02-19, 22:19
Laberia?

what is this at minute 5:26
Holy smoke :shocked:
Purple haze? :smile:
Golden aurora? :petrified:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz6KamVBRjQ


Can you tell us what is going on there?
instead of inform us about other countries?

Yetos
26-02-19, 22:20
Laberia
what is going on there?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTjleMaR3GE

Salento
27-02-19, 03:02
Trump and Kim Jong-un Meet Again: Here’s What’s at Stake

President Trump arrived in Vietnam on Tuesday to discuss denuclearization with Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea, capping off months of threats and weapons tests, recriminations and rapprochements.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/world/asia/trump-kim-vietnam-summit.html




BONUS :smile:: Good Morning Vietnam


https://youtu.be/s8z6cbThnQQ


Me Love You Long Time :grin:


https://youtu.be/12tce-THLUE

Yetos
27-02-19, 22:43
LABERIA
WHAT IS GOING ON IN ALBANIA?

ARE YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN US?


<strong><font size="5">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4VcX7cwqKI

Yetos
27-02-19, 22:49
LABERIA?

WILL YOU TELL US WHAT IS GOING IN ALBANIA?
OR WE MUST LEARN SPANISH TO BE INFORMED?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wf_h9hXLe4