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Salento said:

Could it be that they found the Iapygians?
(Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians?)

Ancient Relatives:
2 Illyrians and a Thracian

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is this the recent update on the site?

zanipolo said:

is this the recent update on the site?

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Yes, they call it “Deep Dive”.

Hugely different results yielded considering the kind of kit you use. Most surprisingly is that Living DNA, with the least SNPs, yielded the most results, even more so than the superkit! There is an affinity to the Hittite Sample on many different chromosomes. I think the affinity to the Caananite sample is due to the migration from the CHG Admixed Anatolians of blue-eyed people, from the north in the copper age through the Bronze Age. I don't match with Caananite on any of the maps. I think there is an overlapping connection, especially considering my affinity to the copper age Anatolian and Armenian samples. I suggested in another thread, that the Copper age Anatolians, where very much similar to the Bronze-age people who lived there. Then perhaps they would be similar to the ones that went west into the Aegean, central, and western Mediterranean.

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maybe Carlos broke their site :grin:

Jovialis said:

Hugely different results yielded considering the kind of kit you use. Most surprisingly is that Living DNA, with the least SNPs, yielded the most results, even more so than the superkit! There is an affinity to the Hittite Sample on many different chromosomes. I think the affinity to the Caananite sample is due to the migration from the CHG Admixed Anatolians of blue-eyed people, from the north in the copper age through the Bronze Age. I don't match with Caananite on any of the maps. I think there is an overlapping connection, especially considering my affinity to the copper age Anatolian and Armenian samples. I suggested in another thread, that the Copper age Anatolians, where very much similar to the Bronze-age people who lived there. Then perhaps they would be similar to the ones that went west into the Aegean, central, and western Mediterranean.

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Im amazed at how much we can really learn from this calculator. It really reveals a lot about people's origins (yes yes it's likely not completely spot on but nothing else is)

LivDNA

Are these actual DNA matches or what? I know most of my Norwegian ancestors came from the Jaeren area in Rogaland. My great-grandfather and his family were a seafaring people until they moved to the United States. One line of the family originated in Telemark but ended up in Rogaland as well. From what I understand, there was a lot of sea traffic between Jaeren (near Stavanger) and Ireland/Iceland.

i only got 2 samples from Deep Dive

Bell Beaker Poland
2500 BC
Total cM=22.71
Largest segment=15.14 cM (2 shared)


Alemannic Bavaria
450 AD
Total cM=10.49
Largest segment=5.84 cM (2 shared)


1. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.349) - [Upgrade for more details]
2. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (8.469) - [Upgrade for more details]
3. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (8.971) - [Upgrade for more details]
4. Central Roman (590 AD) (9.665) - [Upgrade for more details]
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (9.851) - [Upgrade for more details]
6. Central Roman (590 AD) (10.03) - [Upgrade for more details]
7. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (11.21) - [Upgrade for more details]
8. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (11.57) - [Upgrade for more details]
9. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.91) - [Upgrade for more details]
10. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (12.0) - [Upgrade for more details]
11. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (12.33) - [Upgrade for more details]
12. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (12.33) - [Upgrade for more details]
13. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (12.35) - [Upgrade for more details]
14. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (14.52) - [Upgrade for more details]
15. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (15.25) - [Upgrade for more details]
16. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (15.64) - [Upgrade for more details]
17. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (16.26) - [Upgrade for more details]
18. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (17.39) - [Upgrade for more details]
19. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (17.57) - [Upgrade for more details]
20. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (17.58) - [Upgrade for more details]
21. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (17.78) - [Upgrade for more details]
22. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (19.11) - [Upgrade for more details]
23. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (19.11) - [Upgrade for more details]
24. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 BC) (21.41) - [Upgrade for more details]
25. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (21.74) - [Upgrade for more details]
26. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (21.91) - [Upgrade for more details]
27. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (22.17) - [Upgrade for more details]
28. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) (22.41) - [Upgrade for more details]
29. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (22.53) - [Upgrade for more details]
30. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (23.09) - [Upgrade for more details]
31. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (23.1) - [Upgrade for more details]
32. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (23.27) - [Upgrade for more details]
33. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (23.73) - [Upgrade for more details]
34. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (23.99) - [Upgrade for more details]
35. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (24.29) - [Upgrade for more details]
36. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (24.32) - [Upgrade for more details]
37. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (24.68) - [Upgrade for more details]
38. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (24.75) - [Upgrade for more details]
39. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (25.01) - [Upgrade for more details]
40. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) (25.2) - [Upgrade for more details]

Now i feel a bit king Pithana or Suppiluliuma...

@ Salento: Interesting, so Living DNA really is a very good raw data version for this feature.

@ Stuvane: How about Hattusili?

This documentary is super-old, but this clip is pretty great:

https://youtu.be/vrJ2POaO9s4?t=721

Jovialis said:

@ Salento: Interesting, so Living DNA really is a very good raw data version for this feature.

@ Stuvane: How about Hattusili?

This documentary is super-old, but this clip is pretty great:

https://youtu.be/vrJ2POaO9s4?t=721

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It also talks about how they spoke the oldest known Indo-European language. Also how the chief god of their pantheon, was a storm god, who was very similar to Zeus, and Jupiter.

Jovialis said:

It also talks about how they spoke the oldest known Indo-European language. Also how the chief god of their pantheon, was a storm god, who was very similar to Zeus, and Jupiter.

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Great, Jovialis. Here we can consult some insights on the matter

https://www.academia.edu/289049/Lycia_-_Crossroads_of_Hittite_and_Greek_Traditions

Stuvanè said:

Great, Jovialis. Here we can consult some insights on the matter

https://www.academia.edu/289049/Lycia_-_Crossroads_of_Hittite_and_Greek_Traditions

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Great info! Sorry that I'm currently out of votes at the moment.

davef said:

Im amazed at how much we can really learn from this calculator. It really reveals a lot about people's origins (yes yes it's likely not completely spot on but nothing else is)

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It also takes some understanding of how these calculators work; it is all very wonky. This is a lot like 23andme's DNA relatives but using only the ancient samples. I get "cousins" that share ancestry from totally unrelated places, exclusive unto them, like Native American.

In fact, on AncestryDNA, people with around 10 cM, have autosomal components that are completely different from mine.

Nevertheless, I do find this to be very interesting and useful. It really makes me inclined to think that the copper age Anatolians are the overlapping population.





This is all consistent with my eurogenes ancient DNA similarity chart, I wonder if the 35 affinity to the Ancient Egyptian mummy is also related to this Anatolian copper age migration. Considering the Anatolian_N and Iranian Farmer in them:

I think they also need to make some updates, since some are yielding significantly fewer results. 23andme doesn't reveal any for me currently. However, I hope I won't have to delete, and re-upload my raw data again to see.