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Had to re-upload for new Deep Dive matches so here are the new ones:
https://i.imgur.com/Es0s2uS.png
map of my data
https://i.postimg.cc/sXRFjfGV/mymap.png (https://postimages.org/)
Johane Derite
24-08-19, 22:12
I wonder who the hell is that Illirian/Dalmatian positioned in Britain
Is it a mistake or have I missed a few passes?:)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69240791_2496230370438421_2526306102878928896_n.pn g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQkoL7ifdoPfk31vIS9vhfe_xw3hrD1j6cHUJ9px0Re fIKPpTD_5LjlDHgHsJJbpPVA&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=f37a4267763b7f43f7e181182409a4a0&oe=5DCD2317
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/69398666_905854946451303_5657787722127900672_n.png ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQmyf7Fh3pCe4hvH7TAbUC-fxD5KT-g3C4ZAaVi782uZQpVibltZbHpULxZRO-qQmYs&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=ad4a5596094a55c6ee118a8f7c85c406&oe=5DD6880F
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/69110795_2416995448573896_1679054190912995328_n.pn g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQnuroirArSE8jCSldZptPvUI5R3QQ6X51twAauh8-elktcH4TF3ariXR53n7NF8KUM&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=d31d4873ca3a4dec8a5cf1ae3e012ab4&oe=5DD0E917
Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
@Lenab, sure. And many times many of the soldiers were recruited in the Balkans. But that dating sounds strange to me: 1600 BC (!).
I would expect to find an Illyrian in Britain at the height of the imperial age, not towards the end of the Bronze Age
Not sure where my comment went but yes. But look it up online.
Johane Derite
24-08-19, 22:19
Yeah, they've mixed up the location. Sample I4331 is the one found in croatian coast, from Mathieson 2018. Pretty big mistake.
Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
Why would that be wrong...But everything else ok?
Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
it is the same spot on map as mine in post 1253.........yet mine is the correct name
Veliki Vanik burial mound is located near the town ofVrgoracin Split-Dalmatia County in southern Croatia. The mound ismade of rock and soil deposit with a circular base of 20 m in diameter and a relative height of 3.5 m. Itwas partly destroyedduring the Early Modern Period when the stone drywall was erected and some of the rock material was harvested from the site. Three Bronze Age graves -one in the shape of a stone coffin and two inhumations in plain soil -containing the remains of five individuals were explored during the rescue excavations. Radiocarbon datesand preservedartifacts(hair ornament made of coiled copper wire and fragments of pottery) datethese burialsto the Early/MiddleBronze Age•I4331/ VV1Poorly preserved subadult (5-7 years).
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the other Illyrian
•I3313/ JAZ1Radovanci (1 individual)The Radovanci site is located in Slavonia, in continental Croatia, approximately 15 km north of the town of Požega. The site isa destroyed settlement that was in use during the Sopot and Balaton-Lasinya cultures.23Archaeological excavations were carried out in 2005 and one skeleton was recovered.
Why would that be wrong...But everything else ok?
I got the same until I refreshed the maps......hit the 2 arrows which form a circle
I got the same until I refreshed the maps......hit the 2 arrows which form a circle
Ok but I don't think my result changed into a different time with those people
Hello every body. I ,m holidays. I,m very results illergete and vascones or carolingios also Al Andalus, hispano romano, iberian, califato Córdoba, Valencia and in the 4 site one new celtiberian alemanic mix + ó - When I return published now is very dificultouse. Regards and happy Holidays.
Maybe the Germano-Celt gladiator stayed around in York...I have ancestors from Yorkshire and Lancashire in northern England. 11336
11337
And we have my Proto-Celt from Scotland and the Lombard guy, even though I match closer to Franks and Visigoths among Germanics.
That's very good. Did you do it?
Quite handsome. Well, it makes sense. All those bedroom conquests for which he was known couldn't have just been based on charm. :)
It seems I should be embracing my Scythian side. :) Strange. Other "tests" have shown it as well.
Yes, I tweaked it a bit, ...
... in his early 20s
https://i.imgur.com/oBcwfhU.jpg
... in his prime
https://i.imgur.com/2tihrKn.jpg
... original
https://i.imgur.com/gbUFz0l.jpg
(The previous images got deleted by mistake, but I re-uploaded the same pics again)
@Stuvanè
I wonder who the hell is that Illirian/Dalmatian positioned in Britain
Is it a mistake or have I missed a few passes?:)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69240791_2496230370438421_2526306102878928896_n.pn g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQkoL7ifdoPfk31vIS9vhfe_xw3hrD1j6cHUJ9px0Re fIKPpTD_5LjlDHgHsJJbpPVA&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=f37a4267763b7f43f7e181182409a4a0&oe=5DCD2317
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/69398666_905854946451303_5657787722127900672_n.png ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQmyf7Fh3pCe4hvH7TAbUC-fxD5KT-g3C4ZAaVi782uZQpVibltZbHpULxZRO-qQmYs&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=ad4a5596094a55c6ee118a8f7c85c406&oe=5DD6880F
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/69110795_2416995448573896_1679054190912995328_n.pn g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQnuroirArSE8jCSldZptPvUI5R3QQ6X51twAauh8-elktcH4TF3ariXR53n7NF8KUM&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=d31d4873ca3a4dec8a5cf1ae3e012ab4&oe=5DD0E917
https://i.imgur.com/jxdFrLg.png
https://i.imgur.com/xdkTg8B.png
https://i.imgur.com/1jSsUHH.png\https://i.imgur.com/2u8uRmi.png
Ancestral Timeline
The Morisco is gone :) Just like the Sicilian did :(
Single RD
https://i.imgur.com/UtAvNSv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eYCGpYu.png
Combined:
https://i.imgur.com/8kNzu4f.jpg
Deep Dive:
https://i.imgur.com/JVRuMR7.jpg
new late bronze age match for myself ...sample mj12
https://i.postimg.cc/vHB9XSWG/late-bronze.png
(https://postimages.org/)https://i.postimg.cc/L6bPWBTL/thraco.png (https://postimages.org/)
Good news for all those who have matches with the illyrian I4331. They corrected the location of ancient sample to Dalmatia, according to the paper below. Cheers to all and nice Sunday.
https://i.imgur.com/Z0eGiyy.png
https://i.imgur.com/7Zai3oi.png
https://i.imgur.com/I88VuIO.png
Yes, I tweaked it a bit, ...
... in his early 20s
https://i.imgur.com/oBcwfhU.jpg
... in his prime
https://i.imgur.com/2tihrKn.jpg
... original
https://i.imgur.com/gbUFz0l.jpg
(The previous images got deleted by mistake, but I re-uploaded the same pics again)
That's with faceapp right? The younger one looks a little bit like my younger brother.
That's with faceapp right? The younger one looks a little bit like my younger brother.
From what I've been reading around, I concluded that his real hairstyle would have been a bit different from that shown in the original image. (It’s a matter of hairline control as he got older :)
Faceapp and Photoshop.
Good news for all those who have matches with the illyrian I4331. They corrected the location of ancient sample to Dalmatia, according to the paper below. Cheers to all and nice Sunday.
https://i.imgur.com/Z0eGiyy.png
https://i.imgur.com/7Zai3oi.png
https://i.imgur.com/I88VuIO.png
@ Thanks Duarte.
Now it makes sense :)
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=bqfnod1kj2&s=dd
Good news for all those who have matches with the illyrian I4331. They corrected the location of ancient sample to Dalmatia, according to the paper below. Cheers to all and nice Sunday.
https://i.imgur.com/Z0eGiyy.png
https://i.imgur.com/7Zai3oi.png
https://i.imgur.com/I88VuIO.png
thanks
I4331, I4332, Early/Middle Bronze Age, 1700-1500 BCE
http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/135616
I4331
mtDNA: I1a1
Y-DNA: J2b2a
I4332
mtDNA: W3a1
https://i.imgur.com/7iPltwt.png
The Copper Age Anatolian sample now shows up on the map in the Neolithic. I0184 looks like it comes from North-Western Anatolia, in 3800 BC:
https://i.imgur.com/iikF3qP.png
I believe this is what links me to a lot of the other samples from later time periods; via other groups who share the Copper Age Anatolians as a source population:
https://i.imgur.com/4ojkOEL.png
As for the deep dive, all I get is 0.67 cM for the Mycenaean sample, I9033:
https://i.imgur.com/7BdVBqv.png
Here is the full-archaeology map, with some new additions:
https://i.imgur.com/taxkO1v.png
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 (Click for more info)
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2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
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3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
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4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 (Click for more info)
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5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 (Click for more info)
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6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 (Click for more info)
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7. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 (Click for more info)
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8. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 (Click for more info)
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9. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 (Click for more info)
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10. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 (Click for more info)
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11. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 (Click for more info)
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12. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 13.45 - CL57 (Click for more info)
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13. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 13.46 - STR_535 (Click for more info)
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14. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 13.46 - I3585 (Click for more info)
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15. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 13.49 - I3238 (Click for more info)
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16. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475 (Click for more info)
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17. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
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18. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 (Click for more info)
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19. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 14.14 - I12879 (Click for more info)
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20. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 14.25 - I12208 (Click for more info)
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21. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.42 - I3759 (Click for more info)
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22. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 14.49 - CL23 (Click for more info)
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23. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55- I12514 (Click for more info)
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24. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.59 - I2649 (Click for more info)
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25. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.59 - I3758 (Click for more info)
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26. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.61 - SI-40 (Click for more info)
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27. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 (Click for more info)
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28. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 (Click for more info)
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29. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.64 - I12515 (Click for more info)
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30. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 14.67 - MJ12 (Click for more info)
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31. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 14.73 - I3777 (Click for more info)
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32. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 14.75 - I12410 (Click for more info)
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33. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.78 - I2472 (Click for more info)
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34. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.87 - scy305 (Click for more info)
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35. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.08 - scy192 (Click for more info)
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36. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 15.36 - I2515 (Click for more info)
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37. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 15.38 - I8209 (Click for more info)
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38. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 15.54 - I7497 (Click for more info)
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39. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.66 - scy311 (Click for more info)
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40. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 15.68 - I8214 (Click for more info)
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41. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 15.71 - I2478 (Click for more info)
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42. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 15.77 - I7673 (Click for more info)
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43. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.95- I12516 (Click for more info)
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44. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.03 - I12644 (Click for more info)
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45. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 16.23 - VAD001 (Click for more info)
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46. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 16.42 - I4332 (Click for more info)
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47. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 16.42 - I5769 (Click for more info)
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48. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 16.45 - I3982 (Click for more info)
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49. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.49 - I2644 (Click for more info)
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50. Ostrogoth Mix (465 AD) ..... 16.5 - AEH_1 (Click for more info)
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51. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.58 - I7425 (Click for more info)
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52. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 16.6 - I3493 (Click for more info)
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53. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 16.61 - I12641 (Click for more info)
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54. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 16.67 - I3327 (Click for more info)
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55. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 16.7 - I2514 (Click for more info)
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56. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457 (Click for more info)
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57. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 17.01 - I3321 (Click for more info)
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58. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
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59. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 17.17 - BIM33 (Click for more info)
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60. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 17.36 - I12877 (Click for more info)
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61. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.38 - CL47 (Click for more info)
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62. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324 (Click for more info)
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63. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.58 - I3981 (Click for more info)
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64. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 17.6 - I1840 (Click for more info)
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65. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 17.66 - VAD005 (Click for more info)
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66. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 17.78 - I8203 (Click for more info)
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67. Medieval Frank (670 AD) ..... 17.94 - CL63 (Click for more info)
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68. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.08 - Rise577 (Click for more info)
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69. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.18 - NS3c (Click for more info)
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70. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675 (Click for more info)
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71. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 18.47 - VO10207 (Click for more info)
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72. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 18.56 - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
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73. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 18.89 - DA111 (Click for more info)
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74. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 18.92 - I2471 (Click for more info)
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75. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 18.96 - I3776 (Click for more info)
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76. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.01 - I2470 (Click for more info)
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77. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.12 - I12647 (Click for more info)
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78. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199 (Click for more info)
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79. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 (Click for more info)
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80. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 (Click for more info)
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81. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.78 - VAD004 (Click for more info)
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82. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647 (Click for more info)
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83. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.86 - I7162 (Click for more info)
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84. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 (Click for more info)
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85. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 (Click for more info)
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86. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 19.96 - I3874 (Click for more info)
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87. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 (Click for more info)
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88. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 (Click for more info)
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89. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 20.54 - I3757 (Click for more info)
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90. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 20.68 - I3490 (Click for more info)
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91. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 (Click for more info)
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92. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 (Click for more info)
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93. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 (Click for more info)
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94. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 (Click for more info)
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95. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 (Click for more info)
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96. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 (Click for more info)
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97. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.51 - I5471 (Click for more info)
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98. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 (Click for more info)
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99. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.6 - SZ23 (Click for more info)
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100. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.61 - I1388 (Click for more info)
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11357
I'm Bell Beaker Germanic
https://i.imgur.com/taxkO1v.png
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
Comparing the new samples added MTA, from the Reich et al 2019 paper to my Eurogenes heat map. After the Balkans, Iberians are my closest, as the yellow shows. I would bet that is has a great deal to do with the Greek and Roman influence to Iberia.
Dalmatian samples plotted in Bergamo !?
https://i.imgur.com/60rTPEW.png
https://i.imgur.com/taxkO1v.png
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
Comparing the new samples added MTA, from the Reich et al 2019 paper to my Eurogenes heat map. After the Balkans, it is my closest, as the yellow shows. I would bet that is has a great deal to do with the Greek and Roman influence to Iberia.
Here's the study, discussed here:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38084-Two-Ancient-Iberia-DNA-Papers-with-articles
My updated map from Ancient Times... Combined kit
(I don’t have a Eurogenes Map like yours) ...???
https://i.imgur.com/qEmVPTB.jpg
Dalmatian samples plotted in Bergamo !?
It looks like garbage.
What would be the Bronze Age sample from Dalmatia? The Iron Age from Moldova and Bulgaria?
It looks like garbage.
What would be the Bronze Age sample from Dalmatia? The Iron Age from Moldova and Bulgaria?
Are these dalmatian samples not from the bronze age period?
When does the iron -age begin
Source: English Wikipedia
https://i.imgur.com/SOfsU9k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vQl1Tbv.jpg
Are these dalmatian samples not from the bronze age period?
When does the iron -age begin
I was asking you what they were, I thought you knew. Using PCA with samples found in Bronze Age Croatia, and Iron Age Moldova and Bulgaria, positions change a little in PCA. I've found that two Bronze Age Croatia samples plot close Bergamo, too little to draw any conclusion. These two Croatian BA samples are there because they have more EEF than modern Croatians. Nothing more than that. It would be useful to do these PCAs not only using the G25.
https://i.imgur.com/661yMIS.jpg
Back in topic, Mytrueancestry.com is nothing more than Eurogenes K15 with ancient samples.
I was asking you what they were, I thought you knew. Using PCA with samples found in Bronze Age Croatia, and Iron Age Moldova and Bulgaria, positions change a little in PCA. I've found that two Bronze Age Croatia samples plot close Bergamo, too little to draw any conclusion. These two Croatian BA samples are there because they have more EEF than modern Croatians. Nothing more than that. It would be useful to do these PCAs not only using the G25.
https://i.imgur.com/661yMIS.jpg
Iirc, they are all late bronze-age..
Thanks for pca data
Can you do the 900bc thraco-cimmerian, sample MJ12
My updated map from Ancient Times... Combined kit
(I don’t have a Eurogenes Map like yours) ...???
https://i.imgur.com/qEmVPTB.jpg
I just colored them according to the results of this tool:
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm
I was asking you what they were, I thought you knew. Using PCA with samples found in Bronze Age Croatia, and Iron Age Moldova and Bulgaria, positions change a little in PCA. I've found that two Bronze Age Croatia samples plot close Bergamo, too little to draw any conclusion. These two Croatian BA samples are there because they have more EEF than modern Croatians. Nothing more than that. It would be useful to do these PCAs not only using the G25.
https://i.imgur.com/661yMIS.jpg
Interesting. On this PCA French South and French East are quite a bit further apart than Bergamo and Sicily.
I guess there's no France or French people either.
https://i.imgur.com/M1CztUO.png
I have more of an affinity towards the south French. No doubt it has to do with the Roman, and Greek colonies that settled there as well.
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
https://i.imgur.com/4DJzdh8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AH8HTPW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M1CztUO.png
I have more of an affinity towards the south French. No doubt it has to do with the Roman, and Greek colonies that settled there as well.
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
https://i.imgur.com/4DJzdh8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AH8HTPW.jpg
It's ok for the French to claim they are French even though there are large differences between the different areas, maybe larger than the differences in Italy, and apologies have been issued to Macedonians, Thracians and Thessalians for questioning whether or not they are "really" Greek.
It's only Italians who have no right to ethnic self-determination on anthroforums.
We fought and died to kick the foreign overlords out and unify too, and in World War II the Italian soldiers who were asked by the Germans to turn in their weapons and then mowed down weren't asked whether they came from Bari or Milano, nor were the women and children burned alive asked what kind of Italians they were.
Enough...
It's ok for the French to claim they are French even though there are large differences between the different areas, maybe larger than the differences in Italy, and apologies have been issued to Macedonians, Thracians and Thessalians for questioning whether or not they are "really" Greek.
It's only Italians who have no right to ethnic self-determination on anthroforums.
We fought and died to kick the foreign overlords out and unify too, and in World War II the Italian soldiers who were asked by the Germans to turn in their weapons and then mowed down weren't asked whether they came from Bari or Milano, nor were the women and children burned alive asked what kind of Italians they were.
Enough...
I completely agree!
I really can't think why "national consciousness" should be set against genetic "ethnicity". The sense one has of belonging to a national community, with all the historic and cultural package it involves, is one thing. Trying to sort out the genetic nuances that distinguish each region, area, or sub-area, is another. Both of those concerns are not only distinct, but also complementary. There's richness in diversity. So where's the problem? We'd all go bored if our nations were well-defined, monolithic genetic blocks. We'd read a paper or two, and pass on to something else.
By the way, there's genetic diversity among Spaniards too. East Anglia and Cornwall are genetically distinct. Bavarians aren't the same as North Germans. Scandinavians can be split into subgroups. Not to mention the vast Slavic sphere...
I love my Auvergne, and its stubborn, unruly, tight-fisted, hard-working people. I also feel culturally French, heir to a literature and a history that define the lines along which I think and behave. I feel a distinct kinship with my European cousins. I have friends in Africa, India, etc... And I feel quite comfortable with it all.
Can someone explain what does this mean?
I'm from berber ancestry:
Closest population distances
Population
Distance
N_Levant_AinGhazal5
1.870476
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
2.834692
I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
2.894014
i3808_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
2.998486
I3578_EMA_Andalusia
3.414028
Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_
3.660159
I0867_Levant_PPNB
3.757508
EMA_Greek-Balkan_AEH_1
3.776276
inanna1111
31-08-19, 01:04
Your closest Ancient populations...
Seleucid Empire - Romans - Hellenic Romans
Seleucid + Roman (7.242)
Hellenic Roman + Roman (8.25)
Roman (11.19)
Hellenic Roman (12.57)
Seleucid (14.22)
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.19 - SZ36
Top 97% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71 - SZ43
Top 97% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.79 - SZ32
Top 97% match vs all users
4. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.57 - CL121
Top 96% match vs all users
5. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 12.65 - NS3b
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 14.22 - MA2198
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 14.74 - CL36
Top 93% match vs all users
8. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.03 - SZ40
Top 93% match vs all users
9. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 15.53 - CL30
Top 95% match vs all users
10. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 15.81 - Ker1
Top 98% match vs all users
11. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.69 - SI-53
Top 97% match vs all users
12. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 17.07 - SZ19
Top 93% match vs all users
13. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 17.15 - CL25
Top 94% match vs all users
14. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 17.23 - CL38
Top 93% match vs all users
15. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 17.29 - I9033
Top 94% match vs all users
16. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.86 - I7424
Top 92% match vs all users
17. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 18.18 - SI-41
Top 93% match vs all users
18. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 19.11 - NS3c
Top 89% match vs all users
19. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 19.3 - SZ28
Top 86% match vs all users
20. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 19.48 - I3575
Top 89% match vs all users
21. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 19.52 - CL23
Top 87% match vs all users
22. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 19.53 - I7499
Top 91% match vs all users
23. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 19.55 - I9041
Top 94% match vs all users
24. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 20.04 - Rise397
Top 99% match vs all users
25. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.57 - I12031
Top 57% match vs all users
26. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.91 - I3808
Top 92% match vs all users
27. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 20.97 - scy192
Top 86% match vs all users
28. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 21.0 - I0184
Top 95% match vs all users
29. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 21.17 - I4332
Top 80% match vs all users
30. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 21.17 - I5769
Top 80% match vs all users
31. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.78 - I3576
Top 86% match vs all users
32. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 21.99 - SZ45
Top 31% match vs all users
33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 22.31 - I3313
Top 65% match vs all users
34. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 22.38 - I4930
Top 94% match vs all users
35. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 22.72 - I7425
Top 81% match vs all users
36. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 22.79 - I3582
Top 85% match vs all users
37. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 22.98 - I9006
Top 93% match vs all users
38. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 23.23 - I9010
Top 93% match vs all users
39. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 23.26 - I3981
Top 83% match vs all users
40. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 23.53 - I3983
Top 83% match vs all users
41. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 23.76 - I3980
Top 89% match vs all users
42. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 23.78 - I2515
Top 74% match vs all users
43. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) ..... 23.8 - I1631
Top 97% match vs all users
44. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 23.89 - MA2208
Top 93% match vs all users
45. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 23.9 - I3581
Top 84% match vs all users
46. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 23.98 - SZ18
Top 25% match vs all users
47. Ancient Greek Empuries (275 BC) ..... 23.99 - I8208
Top 94% match vs all users
48. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 24.13 - I12515
Top 71% match vs all users
49. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 24.31 - CL57
Top 31% match vs all users
50. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 24.35 - I2514
Top 69% match vs all users
51. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 24.61 - I2647
Top 78% match vs all users
52. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) ..... 24.63 - I9123
Top 98% match vs all users
53. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 24.65 - CL94
Top 38% match vs all users
54. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 24.79 - MJ12
Top 78% match vs all users
55. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 24.95 - ASH2-3_ASH_IA1
Top 94% match vs all users
56. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 25.15 - MA2206
Top 94% match vs all users
57. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 25.17 - LSD021
Top 78% match vs all users
58. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 25.18 - I4331
Top 54% match vs all users
59. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 25.26 - I2644
Top 82% match vs all users
60. Hellenic Ottoman (1500 AD) ..... 25.51 - MA2196
Top 97% match vs all users
You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)Info
Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate 1050 AD
I7499
Total cM=28.83 Largest segment=9.55 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is 86 % closer than other matching users
Carthaginian Roman 275 BC
I8204
Total cM=3.37 Largest segment=3.37 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 5) - Your raw DNA is 62 % closer than other matching usersAncient Egypt 50 BC
JK2888
Total cM=2.93 Largest segment=2.93 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 2) - Your raw DNA is 35 % closer than other matching users
Central Roman 590 AD
SZ32
Total cM=2.28 Largest segment=2.28 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 41 % closer than other matching usersCentral Roman / Mixed 590 AD
SZ19
Total cM=2.26 Largest segment=2.26 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 13 % closer than other matching usersMycenaean 1350 BC
I9006
Total cM=3.85 Largest segment=2.12 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 13) - Your raw DNA is 52 % closer than other matching users
Hellenic Roman / Cretan 670 AD
CL38
Total cM=2.06 Largest segment=2.06 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 43 % closer than other matching users
Scythian Moldova 270 BC
scy192
Total cM=2.0 Largest segment=2.0 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is 18 % closer than other matching users
Mycenaean 1350 BC
I9041
Total cM=3.6 Largest segment=1.85 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is 48 % closer than other matching users
Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese 670 AD
CL30
Total cM=1.77 Largest segment=1.77 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 20 % closer than other matching users
Your closest genetic modern populations...
1. Greek (4.527)
2. Central_Greek (7.982)
3. Kosovan (8.080)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (8.354)
5. Greek_Thessaly (8.496)
6. Greek_Islands (9.640)
7. East_Sicilian (9.784)
8. Greek_Crete (10.30)
Edit: Updated
Franks and Visigoths!11359
3D Ancient in color (Start - Middle - ...)
https://i.imgur.com/34n8hw8.png
https://i.imgur.com/QjgXiDG.png
https://i.imgur.com/vqqxvzg.png
https://i.imgur.com/eYCGpYu.png
92. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 (Click for more info)
Top 42% match vs all users
New result.
Is a migration Fromm North Spain todo Britain Islands? Is make the Stotengeguen
mine .......after this set , the other are more than 13.0000
1. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.349 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 8.469 - CL23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.971 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.665 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.851 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.03 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.08 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
9. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 11.21 - CL57 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 96% match vs all users
10. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 11.57 - CL94 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 96% match vs all users
11. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 11.65 - I7424 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
12. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.91 - SZ32 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 97% match vs all users
13. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 12.0 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 91% match vs all users
14. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.33 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 97% match vs all users
15. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 12.33 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 97% match vs all users
16. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 12.35 - scy192 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 97% match vs all users
my new results after today
1. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.349 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.971 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.665 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.851 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.03 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
6. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.08 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
7. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
8. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 11.21 - CL57 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 96% match vs all users
9. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 11.57 - CL94 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 95% match vs all users
10. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 11.65 - I7424 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
11. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.81 - CL23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
@Torzio
Your top y T sample (CL23) dropped some and the other T (SZ36) went up.
Are the 2 results you posted from the same Raw-Data?
My Top y T sample (SZ36) goes from first to second depending on the RawData.
for example:
Combined RawData:
https://i.imgur.com/I9js78V.jpg
Ancestry:
https://i.imgur.com/itAmcxk.jpg
23v5:
https://i.imgur.com/CAMMNFl.jpg
@Torzio
Your top y T sample (CL23) dropped some and the other T (SZ36) went up.
Are the 2 results you posted from the same Raw-Data?
My Top y T sample (SZ36) goes from first to second depending on the RawData.
for example:
Combined RawData:
https://i.imgur.com/I9js78V.jpg
Ancestry:
https://i.imgur.com/itAmcxk.jpg
23v5:
https://i.imgur.com/CAMMNFl.jpg
Yes same data... i never give them a different one... always from ftdna , nit my 23andme or other one
Some new updates among my "grandpas" :)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/70204852_952164295117711_6527552044478234624_n.png ?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQmxM4QfXyO0sl8A-kqV27iVLvZvzPhJtwTuw9rnw36B9xHNNzkXNV6hwZPtsttjVzo&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=1740f3346e30856c3c5b3a7b226d9047&oe=5E0A9580
You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)Info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)Medieval Iberian
670 AD
CL23
Total cM=32.35
Largest segment=23.21 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 45) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)
Chr. 16
23.21 cM
Chr. 20
9.13 cM
Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC
I4331
Total cM=19.15
Largest segment=8.57 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
91% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
3.61 cM
Chr. 2
8.57 cM
Chr. 14
3.42 cM
Chr. 19
3.54 cM
Scythian Moldova
290 BC
scy311
Total cM=6.63
Largest segment=6.63 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
22% closer than other matching users
Chr. 3
6.63 cM
Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7499
Total cM=14.31
Largest segment=5.65 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is
81% closer than other matching users
Chr. 4
5.65 cM
Chr. 18
4.53 cM
Chr. 19
4.13 cM
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I12515
Total cM=5.36
Largest segment=5.36 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 31) - Your raw DNA is
35% closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
5.36 cM
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7498
Total cM=11.44
Largest segment=4.67 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 34) - Your raw DNA is
91% closer than other matching users
Chr. 4
4.67 cM
Chr. 7
3.55 cM
Chr. 19
3.21 cM
Iberian / Piedmont
670 AD
CL94
Total cM=8.17
Largest segment=4.23 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
67% closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
4.23 cM
Chr. 12
3.93 cM
Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD
NS3b
Total cM=3.27
Largest segment=3.27 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 37) - Your raw DNA is
9% closer than other matching users
Chr. 19
3.27 cM
Thuringii Tribe
420 AD
AED_1108
Total cM=3.06
Largest segment=3.06 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is
19% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
3.06 cM
Scythian Moldova
270 BC
scy192
Total cM=4.8
Largest segment=2.54 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
53% closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
2.26 cM
Chr. 15
2.54 cM
Hellenic Roman / Cretan
670 AD
CL38
Total cM=6.49
Largest segment=2.33 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
85% closer than other matching users
Chr. 4
1.88 cM
Chr. 11
2.27 cM
Chr. 19
2.33 cM
Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea
900 BC
MJ12
Total cM=2.05
Largest segment=2.05 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is
10% closer than other matching users
Chr. 11
2.05 cM
Central Roman
590 AD
SZ32
Total cM=1.9
Largest segment=1.9 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
63% closer than other matching users
Chr. 6
1.9 cM
Medieval Frank
670 AD
CL63
Total cM=1.72
Largest segment=1.72 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
37% closer than other matching users
Chr. 3
1.72 cM
I deleted the old data and made a new upload. There was changes only in my Top 60 of ancient samples.
https://i.imgur.com/V4DrMR5.png
https://i.imgur.com/GHPGM08.png
https://i.imgur.com/cnfCvEw.png
https://i.imgur.com/5Mg1Xj2.png
https://i.imgur.com/OpbaVDd.png
11389I get Saxons now! 11390
According to the Amorim charts of genetic structure at Szolad and Collegno: These were the Pannonian Roman samples
SZ43 is mostly TSI or Tuscan-like with about 30pc IBS (Iberian-like), with less than 10pc CEU+GBR (North European);
SZ36 is about 75pc Tuscan-like and 25pc Iberian (IBS);
SZ32 is about 60pc TSI and 40pc IBS;
SZ19 is 100pc TSI or Tuscan-like.
This is strange.....
11391
What is the meaning of this
11392
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This is strange.....
11391
What is the meaning of this
11392
I don’t see what so strange about it.
Ain’t you happy, Smile, you’re a Salentino too. LOL
https://i.imgur.com/itAmcxk.jpg
... just kidding :)
I don’t see what so strange about it.
Ain’t you happy, Smile, you’re a Salentino too. LOL
https://i.imgur.com/itAmcxk.jpg
... just kidding :)
If this mean I am Salentino.....great, it seems more than you.
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This is strange.....
11391
What is the meaning of this
11392
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It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).
Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.
None of this is new, really.
My latest ancient matches:
https://i.imgur.com/ZXh9aTc.png
There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.
@Dibran,
SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?
My closest result is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.https://i.imgur.com/e3IiDzp.jpg
It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).
Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.
None of this is new, really.
My latest ancient matches:
https://i.imgur.com/ZXh9aTc.png
There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.
@Dibran,
SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?
My closest result is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.https://i.imgur.com/e3IiDzp.jpg
Thanks for your explanation.
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If this mean I am Salentino.....great, it seems more than you.
They gave you a better explanation.
Keep in mind that under the right circumstances we can see each other’s Countries.
I saw Albania a few times from San Foca and Otranto (Salento, Italy).
There has been and there still is some exchange between our shores that has been going on for Millennia.
The Albanian Mountains viewed from Salento (Italy)
http://2.citynews-lecceprima.stgy.ovh/~media/original-hi/50816656676607/otranto-_albania-2.jpg
https://www.lecceprima.it/speciale/foto-giorno/l-albania-vista-dal-porto-di-otranto.html
@Torzio
Your top y T sample (CL23) dropped some and the other T (SZ36) went up.
Are the 2 results you posted from the same Raw-Data?
My Top y T sample (SZ36) goes from first to second depending on the RawData.
for example:
Combined RawData:
https://i.imgur.com/I9js78V.jpg
Ancestry:
https://i.imgur.com/itAmcxk.jpg
23v5:
https://i.imgur.com/CAMMNFl.jpg
What is sz28 marker.....different papers state different things
What is sz28 marker.....different papers state different things
For MTA SZ28 is a Gallo Roman:
https://i.imgur.com/dl51TFa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gA0qxOb.jpg
SZ28 Modern Group
1. North_Italian (5.633)
2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.510)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (10.02)
4. Spanish_Valencia (10.03)
5. Portuguese (10.26)
6. Spanish_Murcia (10.30)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.31)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.41)
SZ28 PCA Ancient
https://i.imgur.com/ovz2P0W.jpg
SZ28 PCA Modern
https://i.imgur.com/42K7cYs.jpg
For MTA SZ28 is a Gallo Roman:
https://i.imgur.com/dl51TFa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gA0qxOb.jpg
SZ28 Modern Group
1. North_Italian (5.633)
2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.510)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (10.02)
4. Spanish_Valencia (10.03)
5. Portuguese (10.26)
6. Spanish_Murcia (10.30)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.31)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.41)
SZ28 PCA Ancient
https://i.imgur.com/ovz2P0W.jpg
SZ28 PCA Modern
https://i.imgur.com/42K7cYs.jpg
I mean its mtdna as it is a female
I mean its mtdna as it is a female
Edit:
SZ28 mtDNA is H3b5 according to:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327714843_Supplementary_Material_4/data/5ba04e4b45851574f7d26254/41467-2018-6024-MOESM4-ESM.xlsx
... the link works perfectly on my Safari browser.
Edit:
SZ28 mtDNA is H3b5 according to:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327714843_Supplementary_Material_4/data/5ba04e4b45851574f7d26254/41467-2018-6024-MOESM4-ESM.xlsx
... the link works perfectly on my Safari browser.
thanks
my father results below.........i ignored anything from 97% or lower
1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.818 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.835 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).
Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.
None of this is new, really.
My latest ancient matches:
https://i.imgur.com/ZXh9aTc.png
There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.
@Dibran,
SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?
My closest result is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.https://i.imgur.com/e3IiDzp.jpg
Very, very, interesting.
thanks
my father results below.........i ignored anything from 97% or lower
1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.818 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.835 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
my first cousin, once removed from Cles , Val di Non, Trentino, Italy ...................with mtdna of T1a1e
1. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
5. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
my wife new results ......huge % drop from 4 to 5 in the placings
1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.715 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.715 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 8.97 - DA199 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
5. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 10.04 - SZ18 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 95% match vs all users
Kit Reupload, New Deep Dive:
CL25 CL36 SZ32 SZ19 CL121 CL38 CL30 NS3c ...
https://i.imgur.com/FRSfaQl.jpg
... matching with K36 Ancient: CL25, SZ19, CL36
https://i.imgur.com/5IQx96f.jpg
New Combined Kit (23 format)
Map of Closest matches from Ancient Times:
https://i.imgur.com/VuxJ1l3.jpg
Deep Dive map:
https://i.imgur.com/jAxFfhy.jpg
Mix PCA:
https://i.imgur.com/lhfOPbh.jpg
Deep Dive:
https://i.imgur.com/XYmuiVk.jpg
Archaeogenetic matches...
https://i.imgur.com/XxA1tz4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aKSE51d.jpg
................
Thank you for your response. For some reason wasn't sent notification. Apologies for delay. I assume I shift so much to these Tuscan like samples due to the very elevated "IT" component me and my father have. Highest average is among Tuscans but we have even higher than they. I imagine this is why me and my father shift towards them.
Mine updated a little bit as well:
https://i.postimg.cc/5ygmq08k/hk1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/6QCnfqXL/hk2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/R01JnY7g/hk3.png
https://i.postimg.cc/q7Gg73rY/hk4.png
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.095 - SZ32 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.978 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.66 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97
% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.11 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96
% match vs all users
5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 12.32 - I9033 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users
6. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.22 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96
% match vs all users
7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.63 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users
8. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 13.63 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users
9. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.67 - CL121 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users
10. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.72 - SZ40 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94
% match vs all users
11. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - SZ19 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96
% match vs all users
12. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.95 - I3575 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users
13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.13 - I3576 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97
% match vs all users
14. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
93
% match vs all users
15. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.44 - scy192 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94
% match vs all users
16. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.44 - SI-53 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users
17. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 15.7 - NS3b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94
% match vs all users
18. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 16.46 - I4930 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users
19. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.64 - I2647 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users
20. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 17.3 - I3983 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users
21. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.51 - I3582 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94
% match vs all users
22. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.81 - I12647 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
93
% match vs all users
23. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.87 - I7424 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92
% match vs all users
24. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 18.35 - I7425 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
91
% match vs all users
25. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.53 - I3981 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
91
% match vs all users
26. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.58 - I9041 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94
% match vs all users
27. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 18.58 - I7499 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92
% match vs all users
28. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.82 - I3581 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94
% match vs all users
29. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 18.97 - MJ12 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
93
% match vs all users
30. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.0 - SI-41 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92
% match vs all users
31. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 19.11 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
48
% match vs all users
32. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.13 - I2649 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87
% match vs all users
33. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.15 - I12031 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
68
% match vs all users
34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 19.45 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
80
% match vs all users
35. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 19.81 - CL94 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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72
% match vs all users
36. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 19.84 - I2515 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86
% match vs all users
37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 19.92 - I4331 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
85
% match vs all users
38. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 19.98 - CL25 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93
% match vs all users
39. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.12 - I3808 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93
% match vs all users
40. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 20.2 - SZ18 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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37
% match vs all users
41. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 20.27 - CL38 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92
% match vs all users
42. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 20.3 - I12515 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85
% match vs all users
43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 20.45 - I9006 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94
% match vs all users
44. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 20.63 - ASH068_ASH_IA1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users
45. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 20.73 - I3980 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93
% match vs all users
46. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 20.79 - I3585 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89
% match vs all users
47. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 21.0 - I2514 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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84
% match vs all users
48. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 21.05 - I2644 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91
% match vs all users
49. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 21.1 - DA199 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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36
% match vs all users
50. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 21.15 - MA2198 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90
% match vs all users
51. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 21.22 - CL30 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91
% match vs all users
52. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 21.32 - I9010 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94
% match vs all users
53. Ancient Greek Empuries (275 BC) ..... 21.8 - I8208 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97
% match vs all users
54. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 21.86 - I7498 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86
% match vs all users
55. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 21.88 - I12514 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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74
% match vs all users
56. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 21.93 - CL57 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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41
% match vs all users
57. Trypillia (3500 BC) ..... 22.05 - I1926 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users
58. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 22.15 - CL53 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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31
% match vs all users
59. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 22.31 - scy311 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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31
% match vs all users
60. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 22.96 - AED_1108 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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28
% match vs all users
Thank you for your response. For some reason wasn't sent notification. Apologies for delay. I assume I shift so much to these Tuscan like samples due to the very elevated "IT" component me and my father have. Highest average is among Tuscans but we have even higher than they. I imagine this is why me and my father shift towards them.
Mine updated a little bit as well:
https://i.postimg.cc/5ygmq08k/hk1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/6QCnfqXL/hk2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/R01JnY7g/hk3.png
https://i.postimg.cc/q7Gg73rY/hk4.png
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.095 - SZ32 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.978 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.66 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97
% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.11 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96
% match vs all users
5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 12.32 - I9033 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users
6. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.22 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96
% match vs all users
7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.63 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95
% match vs all users
8. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 13.63 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users
9. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.67 - CL121 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95
% match vs all users
10. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.72 - SZ40 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94
% match vs all users
11. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - SZ19 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96
% match vs all users
12. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.95 - I3575 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users
13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.13 - I3576 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97
% match vs all users
14. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93
% match vs all users
15. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.44 - scy192 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94
% match vs all users
16. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.44 - SI-53 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users
17. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 15.7 - NS3b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94
% match vs all users
18. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 16.46 - I4930 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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This is one of the reasons I was always skeptical of the "Herodotus version" of Etruscan ethnogenesis. It seemed to me that the difference between the Albanians and the Tuscans was Northwest European versus Slavic, not the rest of the components. So, did the migration from Anatolia to Italy specifically in the first millenium BC also go to the northern Balkans? There was certainly no mention of it, and other ancient authors had a different opinion. Then, of course, there was all the archaeological evidence. So, maybe something was wrong with the narrative preferred by internet population geneticists.
digital_noise
14-09-19, 01:28
They gave you a better explanation.
Keep in mind that under the right circumstances we can see each other’s Countries.
I saw Albania a few times from San Foca and Otranto (Salento, Italy).
There has been and there still is some exchange between our shores that has been going on for Millennia.
The Albanian Mountains viewed from Salento (Italy)
http://2.citynews-lecceprima.stgy.ovh/~media/original-hi/50816656676607/otranto-_albania-2.jpg
https://www.lecceprima.it/speciale/foto-giorno/l-albania-vista-dal-porto-di-otranto.html
I knew it was close but this really puts it into perspective. For all I know, my paternal ancestors swam over lol...
I knew it was close but this really puts it into perspective. For all I know, my paternal ancestors swam over lol...
45 miles (72 km) from Capo d'Otranto, the Easternmost point of Italy, therefore it’s the closest point to Albania (Across the Adriatic Sea).
https://i.imgur.com/Fvkg1KJ.jpg
MTA - New Feature - My Archaeogenetic Map of Iberia.
https://i.imgur.com/dXBQRYX.png
https://i.imgur.com/xQPQ1Xf.png
https://i.imgur.com/HLjLNo6.png
https://i.imgur.com/ghys9Tq.png
https://i.imgur.com/umzHiEx.png
https://i.imgur.com/0M2ABEl.png
A mysterious Indo-Greek has also appeared here :)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/71329864_2371511986447932_949067779619684352_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQkTK9eZ4ixCyRaJcZ-lyY8K9D4cscbcbvjzJuxHPEnkImXxQm-YucfArMOpJv1Wnks&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=df4e9a567c4674d57f1be33c23ee1abb&oe=5DF4FD61
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https://i.imgur.com/3VjecwM.jpg
5 new Deep Dive matches, 25 in total
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Re-uploaded my DNAkit Studio Superkit. Deep dive results are a notable change with the update. Also, I get the Indo-Greek on my map as well now.
https://i.imgur.com/9GjjJZ4.png
https://i.imgur.com/EPh2uNh.png
https://i.imgur.com/ppDjX5b.png
https://i.imgur.com/JjHIFW9.png
https://i.imgur.com/COi9oRb.png
I'm beginning to think that so many of these new exotic obscure populations contain ancient overlapping components with the mainstream.
imho The algorithm needs to be calibrated.
It sees a Root Component and start assigning samples with that root component at random.
I doubt it ...
Hopefully they'll figure out how to fix it by the next update :)
https://i.imgur.com/nOrljOv.jpg
Ancient Ancestry (Premium Map):
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Deep Dive Map:
https://i.imgur.com/OY89flc.jpg
Ancestral Timelapse GIF:
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A mysterious Indo-Greek has also appeared here :)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/71329864_2371511986447932_949067779619684352_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQkTK9eZ4ixCyRaJcZ-lyY8K9D4cscbcbvjzJuxHPEnkImXxQm-YucfArMOpJv1Wnks&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=df4e9a567c4674d57f1be33c23ee1abb&oe=5DF4FD61
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Re-uploaded my DNAkit Studio Superkit. Deep dive results are a notable change with the update. Also, I get the Indo-Greek on my map as well now.
https://i.imgur.com/9GjjJZ4.png
https://i.imgur.com/EPh2uNh.png
https://i.imgur.com/ppDjX5b.png
https://i.imgur.com/JjHIFW9.png
https://i.imgur.com/COi9oRb.png
I'm beginning to think that so many of these new exotic obscure populations contain ancient overlapping components with the mainstream.
imho The algorithm needs to be calibrated.
It sees a Root Component and start assigning samples with that root component at random.
I doubt it ...
Hopefully they'll figure out how to fix it by the next update :)
Guys, I think that these new "exotic obscure populations" are related to this:
https://i.imgur.com/Fd5l4TH.jpg
Hugs to all, dear friends :good_job::smile:
Guys, I think that these new "exotic obscure populations" are related to this:
https://i.imgur.com/Fd5l4TH.jpg
Hugs to all, dear friends :good_job::smile:
Thanks, Duarte. Now everything is clear.
I just discussed it in private yesterday with Pax and other friends.
I went to check on the paper and its supplements: he should date back to 167-46 BC, male, paternal haplogroup J1 and maternal M30b. We have investigated his autosomal analysis and in some ways he seems to be very "autochthonous" (an Iranic / Central Asian guy with some southern influence from India, we are probably talking about a Saka / eastern Scythian, more or less hellenized), however in lack of other more precise elements they rightly give a more generic indication, classifying him among the Indo-Greeks.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2018/03/31/292581.DC1/292581-1.pdf
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2018/03/31/292581.DC1/292581-2.xlsx
Since it appears among the matches of several Italians, both northern and southern, and given the considerable geographical distance that separates us, it would perhaps be more correct to assume that this genetic contact is to be attributed to a more archaic predecessor, common to both Indo-Europeans projected to Asia, and to those who poured into Europe :)
Don't you think this is pure cheating? How many cM can be inherited after 2000 years from just one or a few individuals who lived in those times ?! Virtually zero, or just be an extremely rare coincidence of identical 0.N cM recombination, but not an inheritance from those times. This is what I think.
Remembering Tomenable contribution to this thread:
It depends, Clovis Anzick-1 has very long (many cM) matches to modern Native Americans, even though he lived thousands of years ago. It has been discussed a few years ago in this thread (and such long matches with Anzick-1 were on GEDmatch, so the same methodology as with matches between modern people):
https://forums.familytreedna.com/forum/universal-lineage-testing-autosomal-dna/family-finder-advanced-topics/14839-clovis-anzick-1-amerindian-ancient-dna-have-matches-with-living-people
Quote: "you might be surprised to hear this 11,000 year old infant has some 3rd cousins living today"
Also, here's a useful tip for people of Germano-Celtic ancestry who don't get any Celtic tribes in their analysis. (I get Franks, Visigoths, and Saxons as my tribes, and per the useful Ancestry hack-which they've gotten rid of, sadly-I am 65% Germanic and 32% Celtic) Very few ancient Celtic tribes have Germanic admixture, while quite a few Germanic tribes, who were in the vanguard of the expansion into Celtic lands, have Celtic admixture. So this is why my first tribe is the Franks, an outer Germanic tribe in the west of their lands with decent Celtic admixture. My shared DNA sample is Bronze Age Scotland, either a cousin or an ancestor of my great-great-grandmother, a descendant of the Forbushes of Edinburgh.
Thanks, Duarte. Now everything is clear.
I just discussed it in private yesterday with Pax and other friends.
I went to check on the paper and its supplements: he should date back to 167-46 BC, male, paternal haplogroup J1 and maternal M30b. We have investigated his autosomal analysis and in some ways he seems to be very "autochthonous" (an Iranic / Central Asian guy with some southern influence from India, we are probably talking about a Saka / eastern Scythian, more or less hellenized), however in lack of other more precise elements they rightly give a more generic indication, classifying him among the Indo-Greeks.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2018/03/31/292581.DC1/292581-1.pdf
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2018/03/31/292581.DC1/292581-2.xlsx
Since it appears among the matches of several Italians, both northern and southern, and given the considerable geographical distance that separates us, it would perhaps be more correct to assume that this genetic contact is to be attributed to a more archaic predecessor, common to both Indo-Europeans projected to Asia, and to those who poured into Europe :)
There is something wrong with this Butkara_IA sample. Suddenly it appears as the closest ancient sample to most Bulgarians and Macedonians. He is even not a "pure" Ancient Greek or Thracian, who may have followed Alexander, but a mixture of Steppe and Indian. How about other Balkan people?
Here are my results:
Greco-Bactrian + Roman (10.86)
Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (11.02)
Greco-Bactrian (11.32)
Roman (16.03)
Gaul (18.04)
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)1. Indo-Greek Kingdom Iron Age Butkara (10 AD) ..... 11.32 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98% match vs all users
2. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 12.59 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92% match vs all users
3. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.49 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 16.03 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 16.46 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
88% match vs all users
There is something wrong with this Butkara_IA sample. Suddenly it appears as the closest ancient sample to most Bulgarians and Macedonians. He is even not a "pure" Ancient Greek or Thracian, who may have followed Alexander, but a mixture of Steppe and Indian. How about other Balkan people?
Here are my results:
Greco-Bactrian + Roman (10.86)
Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (11.02)
Greco-Bactrian (11.32)
Roman (16.03)
Gaul (18.04)
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Indo-Greek Kingdom Iron Age Butkara (10 AD) ..... 11.32 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users
2. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 12.59 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92
% match vs all users
3. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.49 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97
% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 16.03 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92
% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 16.46 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
88
% match vs all users
@eastara,
sometimes the oracle and the combinations proposed by MTA don't offer the maximum precision, especially for some regions.
I hypothesize that this sudden proximity or similarity of the Indo-Greek sample to the southern Slavic peoples may depend on the fact that this calculator "reads" in a similar way on the one hand the combination of northeastern European components with the Anatolian / Caucasian ones of the Balkans, and on the other the combination of steppe with the southernmost Iran / India. I believe that with the next MTA updates they take better measurements
....................
My shared cm seems way to high with alot of these samples:
https://i.postimg.cc/v8JnQ8db/hk2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/1XG3RQp3/M1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/T16T44ZM/M2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/sXFzMLfQ/M3.png
My shared cm seems way to high with alot of these samples:
https://i.postimg.cc/v8JnQ8db/hk2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/1XG3RQp3/M1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/T16T44ZM/M2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/sXFzMLfQ/M3.pngI don't know what to answer, @Dibran. Indeed, these values also seem to me to be high. It also happens with my matches. Assuming that these genetic links are real, the only thing that comes to my mind is that MTA intercepts very old DNA segments, common in this case to all/manyEuropeans, fragments incidentally also inherited by these ancient samples
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Mine
Seleucid + Gaul (7.388)
Greco- Bactrian + Gaul (8.514) Greco-Bactrian
(11.39)
Gaul (15.04)
Seleucid (15.71) Най
-близките ви археогенетични съвпадения ...
(По-малките числа означават по-близки съвпадения с вас)
1. Visigoth Смесен славянин Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.02 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
95
% мач срещу всички потребители
2. Индо-гръцко кралство Желязна епоха Butkara (10 AD) ..... 11.39 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
1
% мач срещу всички потребители
3. Византийски римски воин (605 г. сл. н. е.) ..... 13.87 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
96
% мач срещу всички потребители
4. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 15.04 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
78
% мач срещу всички потребители
5. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 15.71 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
98
% мач срещу всички потребители
6. Средновековен тиролски (590 сл. н. е.) ..... 15.91 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
69
% мач срещу всички потребители
7. Скитска Молдова (300 пр.н.е.) ..... 16.44 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
78
% мач срещу всички потребители
8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 16.58 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
90
% мач срещу всички потребители
9. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.42 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
86
% мач срещу всички потребители
10. Средновековен тиролски (670 г. сл. н. е.) ..... 17.49 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
50
% мач срещу всички потребители
11. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 18.03 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
87
% мач срещу всички потребители
12. Западно-скитско Черно море (290 г. пр.н.е.) ..... 18.23 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
68
% мач срещу всички потребители
13. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 18.49 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
85
% мач срещу всички потребители
14. Племето Тюрингии (420 AD) ..... 18.58 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
46
% мач срещу всички потребители
15. Скитска Украйна (600 г. пр.н.е.) ..... 19.57 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
76
% мач срещу всички потребители
16. Средновековен Франк (670 г. сл. н. е.) ..... 19.6 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
36
% мач срещу всички потребители
17. Средновековна Унгария / Балкан (1244 сл. н. е.) ..... 19.85 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
42
% мач срещу всички потребители
18. Франк-Галия / Ломбардия Италия (670 сл. н. е.) ..... 20.1 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
35
% мач срещу всички потребители
19. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 20.19 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
34
% мач срещу всички потребители
20. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.38 (Кликнете за повече информация) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Нагоре
35
% съвпадат спрямо всички потребители
11400
11401
I get I6549 too :thinking: :grin:
https://i.imgur.com/Pb1pWkO.jpg
my cousin teresa from Val di Non Trento
1. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
5. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
Roman + Illyrian (2.211)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (4.365)
Roman (5.549)
Gallo-Roman (7.479)
Illyrian (8.625)
I noticed via additional features , that the site uses the site, SNPedia , this site as well as the site Prometheuse will be owned by MyHeritage from the 1st of November 2019
RagnarofMacedon
17-09-19, 03:37
I had conversation with MyTrueAncestry team on Facebook , he says that This Greco-Bactrian is closest to Ancient Macedonian , that is soldiers who followed Alexanders path to India , many samples are Macedonian like , some of them are mixed with Indians, he says that on pca Charts this sample is closest to modern day Macedonians , is something between Macedonians and Indians... Only Balkans(Except Croatians i think) score it and Ashkenazi.
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I had conversation with MyTrueAncestry team on Facebook , he says that This Greco-Bactrian is closest to Ancient Macedonian , that is soldiers who followed Alexanders path to India , many samples are Macedonian like , some of them are mixed with Indians, he says that on pca Charts this sample is closest to modern day Macedonians , is something between Macedonians and Indians... Only Balkans(Except Croatians i think) score it and Ashkenazi.
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The site name is not: My True Half Ancestry.
If a sample scores India and Greece/Macedonia, imho MTA should be assigning that sample only to those that score Both Ancestries.
They should not assign it to those who have only 1 of the 2 ancestries.
(Many of us have done more than one test, and we already know who we are, and who we are not)
Well, I suspected it would come to that with this sample. It is true a small percentage of Balkan people have some Roma/Gypsy admixture, bu the vast majority have none at all. South Balkans also have the least steppe admixture of the Yamnaya type compared to other Slavic people. So how we relate so much to Butkara sample is inexplicable, on other plots he is close to contemporary Indians, while we are not.
The site name is not: My True Half Ancestry.
If a sample scores India and Greece/Macedonia, imho MTA should be assigning that sample only to those that score Both Ancestries.
They should not assign it to those who have only 1 of the 2 ancestries.
(Many of us have done more than one test, and we already know who we are, and who we are not)
Well, I suspected it would come to that with this sample. It is true a small percentage of Balkan people have some Roma/Gypsy admixture, bu the vast majority have none at all. South Balkans also have the least steppe admixture of the Yamnaya type compared to other Slavic people. So how we relate so much to Butkara sample is inexplicable, on other plots he is close to contemporary Indians, while we are not.
I agree with you both.
There is a flaw in approach. Bactrian-Greeks are descendants of newcomers and not the other way around. It is not right for you to call the Balkan peoples Selucid, Indo-Greek, or Bactrian-Greek. These mixed peoples did not leave India, Pakistan or Iran towards the Balkans. There was no such migration. They would look great on a Indian, Pakistani, or Iranian MTA, but not in a European MTA. It would be the same as you to do the genetic analysis of the burials of the 16th and 17th centuries "Paulista" Pathfinders (called in Brazil as "Bandeirantes") and made them appear in a Portuguese’s MTA. The "Bandeirantes" were groups of Pathfinders composed by pure Portuguese individuals and mixed Portuguese individuals (Portuguese + indigenous). They would look great on a Brazilian's MTA, but never on a Portuguese's MTA.
Cheers.
Modern Italians according to MTA :
North Italian
1. Tuscan (7.803)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (9.135)
3. Portuguese (9.303)
4. Spanish_Murcia (9.708)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (10.06)
6. Spanish_Galicia (10.61)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.64)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.82)
Tuscan
1. North_Italian (7.803)
2. West_Sicilian (8.338)
3. Italian_Abruzzo (8.550)
4. Kosovan (10.47)
5. Greek_Thessaly (10.80)
6. Greek (10.98)
7. East_Sicilian (11.71)
8. Central_Greek (12.03)
South Italians
1. East_Sicilian (4.290)
2. Central_Greek (4.788)
3. Greek_Islands (6.961)
4. Italian_Jewish (7.304)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (7.498)
6. Greek_Crete (7.816)
7. West_Sicilian (7.828)
8. Ashkenazi (8.437)
Italian Abruzzo:
1. Central_Greek (5.248)
2. East_Sicilian (5.583)
3. West_Sicilian (5.732)
4. South_Italian (7.498)
5. Ashkenazi (8.393)
6. Tuscan (8.550)
7. Greek (8.825)
8. Greek_Islands (9.213)
East Sicilian:
1. Central_Greek (2.993)
2. South_Italian (4.290)
3. Ashkenazi (5.157)
4. Greek_Islands (5.526)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (5.583)
6. West_Sicilian (6.796)
7. Greek_Crete (6.866)
8. Italian_Jewish (8.866)
West Sicilian
1. Italian_Abruzzo (5.732)
2. East_Sicilian (6.796)
3. South_Italian (7.828)
4. Central_Greek (7.890)
5. Tuscan (8.338)
6. Ashkenazi (9.423)
7. Greek (9.779)
8. Greek_Islands (9.962)
Sardinia
1. Spanish_Andalucia (29.94)
2. North_Italian (30.25)
3. Tuscan (31.62)
4. Spanish_Valencia (32.19)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (32.26)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (32.29)
7. Spanish_Aragon (32.47)
8. Spanish_Cantabria (32.54)
Italian Jewish:
1. Algerian_Jewish (3.931)
2. South_Italian (7.304)
3. Tunisian_Jewish (7.484)
4. East_Sicilian (8.866)
5. Libyan_Jewish (9.171)
6. Ashkenazi (10.40)
7. West_Sicilian (10.41)
8. Central_Greek (10.45)
Ancient Italians according to MTA:
North Italian:
1. *Gallo-Roman (3.146)
2. *Roman (3.146)
3. Gallo-Roman + Roman (3.146)
4. Roman + Thracian (4.12)
5. Gallo-Roman (5.633)
6. Roman (6.723)
7. Thracian (7.591)
Tuscan:
1. *Roman (2.937)
2. Roman (2.937)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.511)
4. Roman Hispania + Roman (4.573)
5. Hellenic Roman (7.942)
6. Roman Hispania (10.5)
South Italian:
1. *Hellenic Roman (4.027)
2. *Roman (4.027)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (4.027)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (5.212)
5. Hellenic Roman (8.417)
6. Ancient Greek (11.76)
7. Roman (12.28)
Italian Abruzzo:
1. *Hellenic Roman (3.634)
2. *Roman (3.634)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.634)
4. Roman + Pontic (4.455)
5. Hellenic Roman (6.302)
6. Roman (9.271)
7. Pontic (14.33)
East Sicilian:
1. *Hellenic Roman (3.972)
2. *Roman (3.972)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.972)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (7.615)
5. Hellenic Roman (9.85)
6. Roman (12.06)
7. Ancient Greek (13.32)
West Sicilian:
1. *Hellenic Roman (4.611)
2. *Roman Hispania (4.611)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (4.611)
4. Hellenic Roman + Roman (6.258)
5. Hellenic Roman (7.353)
6. Roman (8.444)
7. Roman Hispania (11.47)
Sardinia:
1. *Philistine (15.37)
2. Philistine + Carthaginian (15.2)
3. Philistine (15.37)
4. Carthaginian (19.82)
Italian Jewish:
1. *Hellenic Roman (6.689)
2. *Hittite (6.689)
3. Hellenic Roman + Hittite (6.689)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (7.238)
5. Hittite (11.23)
6. Hellenic Roman (11.52)
7. Ancient Greek (11.98)
* = about :thinking:
Enough with the cryptic comments. If you have something to say, say it.
Modern Italians according to MTA :
North Italian
1. Tuscan (7.803)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (9.135)
3. Portuguese (9.303)
4. Spanish_Murcia (9.708)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (10.06)
6. Spanish_Galicia (10.61)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.64)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.82)
Tuscan
1. North_Italian (7.803)
2. West_Sicilian (8.338)
3. Italian_Abruzzo (8.550)
4. Kosovan (10.47)
5. Greek_Thessaly (10.80)
6. Greek (10.98)
7. East_Sicilian (11.71)
8. Central_Greek (12.03)
South Italians
1. East_Sicilian (4.290)
2. Central_Greek (4.788)
3. Greek_Islands (6.961)
4. Italian_Jewish (7.304)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (7.498)
6. Greek_Crete (7.816)
7. West_Sicilian (7.828)
8. Ashkenazi (8.437)
Italian Abruzzo:
1. Central_Greek (5.248)
2. East_Sicilian (5.583)
3. West_Sicilian (5.732)
4. South_Italian (7.498)
5. Ashkenazi (8.393)
6. Tuscan (8.550)
7. Greek (8.825)
8. Greek_Islands (9.213)
East Sicilian:
1. Central_Greek (2.993)
2. South_Italian (4.290)
3. Ashkenazi (5.157)
4. Greek_Islands (5.526)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (5.583)
6. West_Sicilian (6.796)
7. Greek_Crete (6.866)
8. Italian_Jewish (8.866)
West Sicilian
1. Italian_Abruzzo (5.732)
2. East_Sicilian (6.796)
3. South_Italian (7.828)
4. Central_Greek (7.890)
5. Tuscan (8.338)
6. Ashkenazi (9.423)
7. Greek (9.779)
8. Greek_Islands (9.962)
Sardinia
1. Spanish_Andalucia (29.94)
2. North_Italian (30.25)
3. Tuscan (31.62)
4. Spanish_Valencia (32.19)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (32.26)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (32.29)
7. Spanish_Aragon (32.47)
8. Spanish_Cantabria (32.54)
Italian Jewish:
1. Algerian_Jewish (3.931)
2. South_Italian (7.304)
3. Tunisian_Jewish (7.484)
4. East_Sicilian (8.866)
5. Libyan_Jewish (9.171)
6. Ashkenazi (10.40)
7. West_Sicilian (10.41)
8. Central_Greek (10.45)
Ancient Italians according to MTA:
North Italian:
1. *Gallo-Roman (3.146)
2. *Roman (3.146)
3. Gallo-Roman + Roman (3.146)
4. Roman + Thracian (4.12)
5. Gallo-Roman (5.633)
6. Roman (6.723)
7. Thracian (7.591)
Tuscan:
1. *Roman (2.937)
2. Roman (2.937)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.511)
4. Roman Hispania + Roman (4.573)
5. Hellenic Roman (7.942)
6. Roman Hispania (10.5)
South Italian:
1. *Hellenic Roman (4.027)
2. *Roman (4.027)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (4.027)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (5.212)
5. Hellenic Roman (8.417)
6. Ancient Greek (11.76)
7. Roman (12.28)
Italian Abruzzo:
1. *Hellenic Roman (3.634)
2. *Roman (3.634)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.634)
4. Roman + Pontic (4.455)
5. Hellenic Roman (6.302)
6. Roman (9.271)
7. Pontic (14.33)
East Sicilian:
1. *Hellenic Roman (3.972)
2. *Roman (3.972)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.972)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (7.615)
5. Hellenic Roman (9.85)
6. Roman (12.06)
7. Ancient Greek (13.32)
West Sicilian:
1. *Hellenic Roman (4.611)
2. *Roman Hispania (4.611)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (4.611)
4. Hellenic Roman + Roman (6.258)
5. Hellenic Roman (7.353)
6. Roman (8.444)
7. Roman Hispania (11.47)
Sardinia:
1. *Philistine (15.37)
2. Philistine + Carthaginian (15.2)
3. Philistine (15.37)
4. Carthaginian (19.82)
Italian Jewish:
1. *Hellenic Roman (6.689)
2. *Hittite (6.689)
3. Hellenic Roman + Hittite (6.689)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (7.238)
5. Hittite (11.23)
6. Hellenic Roman (11.52)
7. Ancient Greek (11.98)
* = about :thinking:
Tomanable was right. The Northern Italians are genetically the closest Europeans to the Iberians. :thinking::grin::smile:
Cheers:good_job:
lol... brb :(
Such a sad little man. There, I've given you some attention. Feel better?
Tomanable was right. The Northern Italians are genetically the closest Europeans to the Iberians. :thinking::grin::smile:
Cheers:good_job:
and all Italians have significant Roman affiliated ancestry :satisfied:
(the Ancestral Sardinians ... not as much :)
(New) Your Archaeogenetic Map of Germania:
https://i.imgur.com/cHAB4cZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DEsjW1n.jpg
Roman Era Iberia
https://i.imgur.com/LvXWnSl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aKSE51d.jpg
Medieval Italy (BSS31) 1348 AD
https://i.imgur.com/T3vWKtp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lAPwGnD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4vlExi0.jpg
Research Link https://www.pnas.org/content/115/50/E11790
Extended Premium Map:
https://i.imgur.com/A3f0nVO.jpg
23-v4/5 combo Kit - The Roman Empire :)
https://i.imgur.com/qh2TAx0.jpg
New Archaeogenetic Maps of Germania
https://i.imgur.com/AQnbbRn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VbQbaqJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uuwA5uN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bqy9PRM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/U1cbjlF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bHZ5pyX.jpg
Archaeogenetic Maps of Britain and Ireland
https://i.imgur.com/hKA3sze.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2UYDwr7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SCAFrks.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/P5KQ7fF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hyVBChW.jpg
If there's a difference between two of your kits, which one is right, the Ancestry one or the 23andMe one?
- NEW Iron Age samples! The Germanic Rugii and Lugii tribes!
- The Ghaznavid Dynasty arrives to South Asia!
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 4.019 - I0112
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 4.987 - ALH_1
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 5.659 - Unknown
Top97% match vs all users
4. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) ..... 6.668 - SZ16
Top 97% match vs all users
5. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 6.934 - Sigtuna stg021
Top 97% match vs all users
6. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 7.141 - stg021
Top 97% match vs all users
7. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 7.274 - I5512
Top 97% match vs all users
8. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.396 - Hinxton HS3
Top 95% match vs all users
9. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (400 AD) ..... 7.457 - MJ19
Top 99% match vs all users
10. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 7.761 - Sigtuna grt036
Top 99% match vs all users
11. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 7.793 - AED_249
Top 97% match vs all users
12. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 7.916 - Shohola
Top 88% match vs all users
13. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 8.203 - HinxtonO1
Top 71% match vs all users
14. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 8.514 - I2981
Top 78% match vs all users
15. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 8.688 - I5471
Top 80% match vs all users
16. Young Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 8.722 - NS6
Top 76% match vs all users
17. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 8.783 - I2452
Top 79% match vs all users
18. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) ..... 9.003 - STR_316
Top 91% match vs all users
19. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 9.096 - I5382
Top 95% match vs all users
20. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) ..... 9.406 - KOV-A2
Top 76% match vs all users
21. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 9.408 - OakO4
Top 82% match vs all users
22. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 9.44 - I2860
Top 71% match vs all users
23. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) ..... 9.484 - TSK-A26
Top 78% match vs all users
24. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.499 - SZ42
Top 87% match vs all users
25. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 9.519 - I5377
Top 68% match vs all users
26. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.534 - 3DRIF-16
Top 77% match vs all users
27. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 9.546 - scy006
Top 95% match vs all users
28. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 9.599 - I5367
Top 89% match vs all users
29. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.676 - VDP-A7
Top 94% match vs all users
30. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.753 - SZ15
Top 68% match vs all users
31. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 9.756 - BIM_33
Top 84% match vs all users
32. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai (1446 AD) ..... 9.822 - OSL9A
Top 95% match vs all users
33. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 9.924 - I2447
Top 90% match vs all users
34. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.929 - 6DRIF-21
Top 79% match vs all users
35. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.974 - SZ23
Top 64% match vs all users
36. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.01 - SZ2
Top 97% match vs all users
37. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) ..... 10.13 - I0806
Top 92% match vs all users
38. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.17 - SZ7
Top 84% match vs all users
39. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) ..... 10.17 - I6679
Top 95% match vs all users
40. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 10.21 - I2568
Top 70% match vs all users
41. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 10.36 - I7573
Top 82% match vs all users
42. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.41 - SZ12
Top 71% match vs all users
43. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 10.42 - VDP-A6
Top 71% match vs all users
44. Halstatt (775 BC) ..... 10.48 - DA112
Top 97% match vs all users
45. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 10.51 - I1767
Top 61% match vs all users
46. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.52 - SZ11
Top 82% match vs all users
47. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 10.53 - I2859
Top 70% match vs all users
48. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 10.59 - I5383
Top 67% match vs all users
49. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) ..... 10.63 - I0099
Top 88% match vs all users
50. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 10.69 - AED_106
Top 96% match vs all users
51. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 10.87 - SZ38
Top 59% match vs all users
52. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 11.0 - Ber37
Top 76% match vs all users
53. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.09 - GRS-A1
Top 76% match vs all users
54. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.12 - SZ14
Top 69% match vs all users
55. Frankish Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 11.14 - NS12c
Top 96% match vs all users
56. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.15 - SSG-A2
Top 64% match vs all users
57. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 11.15 - Hinxton 4
Top 67% match vs all users
58. Estonia Iron Age (1 AD) ..... 11.18 - Rise00
Top 98% match vs all users
59. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.2 - I12162
Top 60% match vs all users
60. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) ..... 11.22 - I6777
Top 96% match vs all users
61. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.24 - SZ22
Top 84% match vs all users
62. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) ..... 11.28 - Rise61
Top 81% match vs all users
63. Beaeker-Scythian Ukraine (580 BC) ..... 11.33 - MJ13
Top 96% match vs all users
64. Viking Sweden (935 AD) ..... 11.34 - gtm021
Top 95% match vs all users
65. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 11.4 - ALH_10
Top 80% match vs all users
66. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 11.41 - I2566
Top 82% match vs all users
67. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.42 - SZ4
Top 80% match vs all users
68. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 11.42 - I5513
Top 91% match vs all users
69. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.43 - SZ9
Top 78% match vs all users
70. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 11.47 - I8206
Top 80% match vs all users
71. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 11.47 - Rise139
Top 95% match vs all users
72. Western Pomerania Unetice (1860 BC) ..... 11.47 - Rise109
Top 95% match vs all users
73. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 11.53 - PCA100_Mas13
Top 69% match vs all users
74. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) ..... 11.54 - Rise150
Top 86% match vs all users
75. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 11.63 - 6DRIF-22
Top 75% match vs all users
76. Ostrogoth Nordic (520 AD) ..... 11.68 - STR_220
Top 84% match vs all users
77. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 11.73 - 97029
Top 79% match vs all users
78. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 11.74 - I3875
Top 63% match vs all users
79. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.8 - ORE-A1
Top 65% match vs all users
80. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) ..... 11.83 - Rathlin1
Top 87% match vs all users
81. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.87 - SZ24
Top 83% match vs all users
82. Alemanni Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 11.94 - NS1
Top 68% match vs all users
83. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) ..... 11.97 - I4251
Top 84% match vs all users
84. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 12.07 - CL84
Top 76% match vs all users
85. Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (1860 BC) ..... 12.07 - Rise395
Top 97% match vs all users
86. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 12.08 - I5515
Top 70% match vs all users
87. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 12.16 - I2097
Top 64% match vs all users
88. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 12.18 - I2443
Top 93% match vs all users
89. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.22 - KNS-A1
Top 75% match vs all users
90. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 12.24 - Rise577
Top 60% match vs all users
91. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 12.28 - I2653
Top 64% match vs all users
92. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.31 - Sigtuna 84001
Top 90% match vs all users
93. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.35 - stg020
Top 96% match vs all users
94. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.35 - DAV-A9
Top 96% match vs all users
95. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.36 - VDP-A5
Top 89% match vs all users
96. Bell Beaker England (2165 BC) ..... 12.37 - I2453
Top 82% match vs all users
97. Pre-Viking Sweden (500 AD) ..... 12.4 - Rise174 Oxie7
Top 94% match vs all users
98. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 12.5 - I3255
Top 66% match vs all users
99. Viking High-Ranking Shieldmaiden (950 AD) ..... 12.53 - brk581
Top 94% match vs all users
100. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.67 - Sigtuna 84005
Top 99% match vs all users
- New Iron Age samples! The Germanic Rugii and Lugii tribes!
- The Ghaznavid Dynasty arrives to South Asia!
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 4.019 - I0112
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 4.987 - ALH_1
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 5.659 - Unknown
Top97% match vs all users
4. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) ..... 6.668 - SZ16
Top 97% match vs all users
5. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 6.934 - Sigtuna stg021
Top 97% match vs all users
6. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 7.141 - stg021
Top 97% match vs all users
7. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 7.274 - I5512
Top 97% match vs all users
8. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.396 - Hinxton HS3
Top 95% match vs all users
9. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (400 AD) ..... 7.457 - MJ19
Top 99% match vs all users
10. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 7.761 - Sigtuna grt036
Top 99% match vs all users
11. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 7.793 - AED_249
Top 97% match vs all users
12. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 7.916 - Shohola
Top 88% match vs all users
13. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 8.203 - HinxtonO1
Top 71% match vs all users
14. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 8.514 - I2981
Top 78% match vs all users
15. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 8.688 - I5471
Top 80% match vs all users
16. Young Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 8.722 - NS6
Top 76% match vs all users
17. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 8.783 - I2452
Top 79% match vs all users
18. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) ..... 9.003 - STR_316
Top 91% match vs all users
19. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 9.096 - I5382
Top 95% match vs all users
20. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) ..... 9.406 - KOV-A2
Top 76% match vs all users
21. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 9.408 - OakO4
Top 82% match vs all users
22. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 9.44 - I2860
Top 71% match vs all users
23. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) ..... 9.484 - TSK-A26
Top 78% match vs all users
24. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.499 - SZ42
Top 87% match vs all users
25. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 9.519 - I5377
Top 68% match vs all users
26. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.534 - 3DRIF-16
Top 77% match vs all users
27. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 9.546 - scy006
Top 95% match vs all users
28. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 9.599 - I5367
Top 89% match vs all users
29. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.676 - VDP-A7
Top 94% match vs all users
30. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.753 - SZ15
Top 68% match vs all users
31. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 9.756 - BIM_33
Top 84% match vs all users
32. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai (1446 AD) ..... 9.822 - OSL9A
Top 95% match vs all users
33. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 9.924 - I2447
Top 90% match vs all users
34. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.929 - 6DRIF-21
Top 79% match vs all users
35. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.974 - SZ23
Top 64% match vs all users
36. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.01 - SZ2
Top 97% match vs all users
37. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) ..... 10.13 - I0806
Top 92% match vs all users
38. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.17 - SZ7
Top 84% match vs all users
39. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) ..... 10.17 - I6679
Top 95% match vs all users
40. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 10.21 - I2568
Top 70% match vs all users
41. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 10.36 - I7573
Top 82% match vs all users
42. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.41 - SZ12
Top 71% match vs all users
43. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 10.42 - VDP-A6
Top 71% match vs all users
44. Halstatt (775 BC) ..... 10.48 - DA112
Top 97% match vs all users
45. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 10.51 - I1767
Top 61% match vs all users
46. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.52 - SZ11
Top 82% match vs all users
47. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 10.53 - I2859
Top 70% match vs all users
48. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 10.59 - I5383
Top 67% match vs all users
49. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) ..... 10.63 - I0099
Top 88% match vs all users
50. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 10.69 - AED_106
Top 96% match vs all users
51. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 10.87 - SZ38
Top 59% match vs all users
52. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 11.0 - Ber37
Top 76% match vs all users
53. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.09 - GRS-A1
Top 76% match vs all users
54. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.12 - SZ14
Top 69% match vs all users
55. Frankish Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 11.14 - NS12c
Top 96% match vs all users
56. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.15 - SSG-A2
Top 64% match vs all users
57. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 11.15 - Hinxton 4
Top 67% match vs all users
58. Estonia Iron Age (1 AD) ..... 11.18 - Rise00
Top 98% match vs all users
59. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.2 - I12162
Top 60% match vs all users
60. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) ..... 11.22 - I6777
Top 96% match vs all users
61. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.24 - SZ22
Top 84% match vs all users
62. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) ..... 11.28 - Rise61
Top 81% match vs all users
63. Beaeker-Scythian Ukraine (580 BC) ..... 11.33 - MJ13
Top 96% match vs all users
64. Viking Sweden (935 AD) ..... 11.34 - gtm021
Top 95% match vs all users
65. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 11.4 - ALH_10
Top 80% match vs all users
66. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 11.41 - I2566
Top 82% match vs all users
67. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.42 - SZ4
Top 80% match vs all users
68. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 11.42 - I5513
Top 91% match vs all users
69. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.43 - SZ9
Top 78% match vs all users
70. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 11.47 - I8206
Top 80% match vs all users
71. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 11.47 - Rise139
Top 95% match vs all users
72. Western Pomerania Unetice (1860 BC) ..... 11.47 - Rise109
Top 95% match vs all users
73. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 11.53 - PCA100_Mas13
Top 69% match vs all users
74. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) ..... 11.54 - Rise150
Top 86% match vs all users
75. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 11.63 - 6DRIF-22
Top 75% match vs all users
76. Ostrogoth Nordic (520 AD) ..... 11.68 - STR_220
Top 84% match vs all users
77. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 11.73 - 97029
Top 79% match vs all users
78. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 11.74 - I3875
Top 63% match vs all users
79. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.8 - ORE-A1
Top 65% match vs all users
80. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) ..... 11.83 - Rathlin1
Top 87% match vs all users
81. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 11.87 - SZ24
Top 83% match vs all users
82. Alemanni Longobard Noble (605 AD) ..... 11.94 - NS1
Top 68% match vs all users
83. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) ..... 11.97 - I4251
Top 84% match vs all users
84. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 12.07 - CL84
Top 76% match vs all users
85. Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (1860 BC) ..... 12.07 - Rise395
Top 97% match vs all users
86. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 12.08 - I5515
Top 70% match vs all users
87. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 12.16 - I2097
Top 64% match vs all users
88. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 12.18 - I2443
Top 93% match vs all users
89. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.22 - KNS-A1
Top 75% match vs all users
90. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 12.24 - Rise577
Top 60% match vs all users
91. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 12.28 - I2653
Top 64% match vs all users
92. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.31 - Sigtuna 84001
Top 90% match vs all users
93. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.35 - stg020
Top 96% match vs all users
94. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.35 - DAV-A9
Top 96% match vs all users
95. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 12.36 - VDP-A5
Top 89% match vs all users
96. Bell Beaker England (2165 BC) ..... 12.37 - I2453
Top 82% match vs all users
97. Pre-Viking Sweden (500 AD) ..... 12.4 - Rise174 Oxie7
Top 94% match vs all users
98. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 12.5 - I3255
Top 66% match vs all users
99. Viking High-Ranking Shieldmaiden (950 AD) ..... 12.53 - brk581
Top 94% match vs all users
100. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 12.67 - Sigtuna 84005
Top 99% match vs all users
There are few differences between Kits.
I think that AncestryDNA has better compatibility in some of the MTA apps.
As a rule of thumb, the better Kits are the ones with the closest Archaeogenetic matches (smaller numbers), I think.
If there's a difference between two of your kits, which one is right, the Ancestry one or the 23andMe one?
I was going to post my results later, but my DNAkit Studio Superkits in both Ancestry, and FTDNA format are almost identical with very slight differences. They plot right on top of each other.
MTA - New Feature - My Archaeogenetic Map of Iberia.
https://i.imgur.com/dXBQRYX.png
https://i.imgur.com/xQPQ1Xf.png
https://i.imgur.com/HLjLNo6.png
https://i.imgur.com/ghys9Tq.png
https://i.imgur.com/umzHiEx.png
https://i.imgur.com/0M2ABEl.png
New Feature - My Archaeogenetic Map of Germania.
https://i.imgur.com/RMwt6R0.png
https://i.imgur.com/xW58ex0.png
https://i.imgur.com/gfZcCGQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/FShXO9O.png
https://i.imgur.com/NkrCNo3.png
My Ancient Roman Roots:
https://i.imgur.com/gWpfcl8.png
https://i.imgur.com/xW58ex0.png
https://i.imgur.com/WVlc5ZR.png
https://i.imgur.com/gfZcCGQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/iFuYgWf.png
https://i.imgur.com/FShXO9O.png
https://imgur.com/a/SkqGkpX
https://imgur.com/a/SkqGkpX
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My Macedonian connection being revealed....beautiful.
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My Macedonian connection being revealed....beautiful.
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You must be partly Greek!
You must be partly Greek!
Partly Macedonian....
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Partly Macedonian....
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https://i.imgur.com/Upao72k.png
I get the Indo-Greek sample too.
https://i.imgur.com/MnTkkgB.png
I've compared both DNAkit Studio Superkit, of FTDNA, and AncestryDNA Format. Despite some infinitesimal differences, they are almost identical.
To answer Joey, I think either one of these are the optimal Raw data files to use on this calculator.
https://i.imgur.com/UCxi1oU.png
https://i.imgur.com/KQsgX8l.png
https://i.imgur.com/RoF4Sow.png
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Only aceptar 5 pica here Caliphate and Brithis Islanders. My holiday is poner to October, sorry. 11444114451144611447
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And finally Germania. I'm nota know-how What I written in English. Regards.
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Ancient 3D PCA comparison:
DNAkit Studio Superkit: AncestryDNA Format
https://i.imgur.com/k6ypnK5.gif
DNAkit Studio Superkit: FTDNA Format
https://i.imgur.com/z1HOBAS.gif
Top 5 modern populations, and top 10 ancient populations on 2D PCA.
https://i.imgur.com/EfCKdfT.png
Partly Macedonian....
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https://i.imgur.com/vl8tToO.png
I think perhaps the correlation partly has to do with Anatolian Bronze Age admixture, overlapping between Albanians, Greeks, Italians, etc. SEEurope1 and 2 are Albanian cohorts of samples.
I'd suspect I would have a closer affinity with the south of Albania, who have higher levels of ABA. I get 81 on the K36 heat map there, as well as SCItaly; both with comparable levels of ABA. I also get 81 for the Peloponnese:
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
https://i.imgur.com/vl8tToO.png
I think perhaps the correlation partly has to do with Anatolian Bronze Age admixture, overlapping between Albanians, Greeks, Italians, etc. SEEurope1 and 2 are Albanian cohorts of samples.
I'd suspect I would have a closer affinity with the south of Albania, who have higher levels of ABA. I get 81 on the K36 heat map there, as well as SCItaly; both with comparable levels of ABA. I also get 81 for the Peloponnese:
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
Here's my DNAkit Studio FTDNA format K36 heat map, there's some slight differences.
https://i.imgur.com/pCzDawG.png
3D Ancient Sample Analysis PCA:
https://i.imgur.com/0KYpQJC.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/ZY8VyzH8/my-ancient-map.png (https://postimages.org/)
My map above
There are AD and BC dates
I am not sure what it is suppose to represent....any ideas?
https://i.postimg.cc/ZY8VyzH8/my-ancient-map.png (https://postimages.org/)
My map above
There are AD and BC dates
I am not sure what it is suppose to represent....any ideas?
The dates on the map indicate the TIME of when your Matches were Alive and Kicking :)
(They haven't labeled some of the samples properly, yet)
Default Map
https://i.imgur.com/BHbDWe4.jpg
... and if you add samples:
https://i.imgur.com/qh2TAx0.jpg
valentinavalley2
24-09-19, 10:47
What if the Greek dna in Albanian is actually Pelasgian? It seems like the Greek in Albanians seems different from Greeks
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Nah, I think the commonality has to do with the legacy of a copper age/Bronze age migration from Anatolia.
https://i.imgur.com/vl8tToO.png
I think perhaps the correlation partly has to do with Anatolian Bronze Age admixture, overlapping between Albanians, Greeks, Italians, etc. SEEurope1 and 2 are Albanian cohorts of samples.
I'd suspect I would have a closer affinity with the south of Albania, who have higher levels of ABA. I get 81 on the K36 heat map there, as well as SCItaly; both with comparable levels of ABA. I also get 81 for the Peloponnese:
https://i.imgur.com/550now6.png
Pelasgian is an outdated term which is not used in genetics studies for very good reasons, chief among them being that even the accounts from the Greek "historians" and writers are contradictory.
This tendency to treat these ancient writers as geneticists or even historians in the modern sense is unhelpful.
Of course, there were indeed indigenous people in the Balkans before the arrival of the Indo-European speakers, and there was admixture of different amounts in different parts of the Balkans and Greece.
What we have is European Middle Neolithic people who were mostly Anatolian Neolithic plus up to 20-25% WHG, and then there was a new arrival in the Copper/Bronze Age of people from Anatolia (this time with larger amounts of Iranian Neolithic) and then from the steppe.
Different groups carried different percentages of those ancient peoples.
The mixing has gone on throughout the millennia.
There's no modern population completely descended from the groups of the Bronze Age. That's fantasy.
There are few differences between Kits.
I think that AncestryDNA has better compatibility in some of the MTA apps.
As a rule of thumb, the better Kits are the ones with the closest Archaeogenetic matches (smaller numbers), I think.
Kits test on GedMatch ... curiosity :)
Single kit vs Combined GedMatch vs Combined DNA-Kit-Studio
Single Normal Kit:
https://i.imgur.com/mKPJnPw.jpg
Kit Combined by GedMatch:
https://i.imgur.com/2pm0Mgl.jpg
Kit Combined with DNA Kit Studio:
https://i.imgur.com/PAbvMUS.jpg
There's not much of a difference, lol :satisfied:
Comparing with one of my Top Matches:
https://i.imgur.com/I9js78V.jpg
Single Kit vs Combined Kit (DnaKitStudio) vs Combined (GedMatch)
SZ40 & Salento - Q-Matching One-to-One Comparison:
Comparing Kit TZ5280008 (SZ40) [-] and Salento Combined (DnaKitStudio)
https://i.imgur.com/W1FKIAO.jpg
Total cM: 10.10
Largest segment cM: 1.51
Total segments: 8
Comparing Kit TZ5280008 (SZ40) [-] Salento Combined (by GedMatch)
https://i.imgur.com/rSh8FiO.jpg
Total cM: 7.93
Largest segment cM: 1.51
Total segments: 6
Comparing Kit TZ5280008 (SZ40) [-] and Salento Single
https://i.imgur.com/ccSTAhM.jpg
Total cM: 2.32
Largest segment cM: 1.16
Total segments: 2
11457
This is what I get....
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my father results
I do not know why these do not align
Gaul + Gallo-Roman (4.873)
Gaul + Illyrian (5.499)
Gaul (8.072)
Gallo-Roman (8.617)
Illyrian (8.818)
1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.818 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.835 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
my wife numbers ..........her paternal and maternal line run along the veneto -friuli border of the Livenza river
Gaul + Thracian (3.378)
Gaul + Illyrian (3.378)
Gaul (6.716)
Thracian (8.715)
Illyrian (8.715)
1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.715 - I4332 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.715 - I5769 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 8.97 - DA199 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
5. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 10.04 - SZ18 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 95% match vs all users
Q-Match 1 to 1 - Salento vs Neanderthal :thinking: yep, lol
Comparing Kit M113500 (Manfred Neander) and Salento
Total cM: 2.35
Largest segment cM: 1.21
Total segments: 2
https://i.imgur.com/s2T3r2z.jpg
... his name is Manfred Neander, any connection to Manfredonia in Puglia?
Q-Match 1 to 1 - Salento vs Neanderthal :thinking: yep, lol
Comparing Kit M113500 (Manfred Neander) and Salento
Total cM: 2.35
Largest segment cM: 1.21
Total segments: 2
https://i.imgur.com/s2T3r2z.jpg
... his name is Manfred Neander, any connection to Manfredonia in Puglia?
Many manfredi surname in veneto
Many manfredi surname in veneto
There were Neanderthals in Puglia:
Altamura, Puglia,
Skeleton Found in Italy Cave Yields Oldest Neanderthal DNA
Altamura Man
... Altamura Man is one of the most complete Paleolithic skeletons ever to be discovered in Europe as "even the bones inside the nose are still there" and as of 2016 it represents the oldest sample of Neanderthal DNA to have been sequenced successfully...
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_15/972506/150410-neanderthal-altamura-man_8ca4b4fc3838f2679ea30d7e30cd47be.fit-760w.jpg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamura_Man (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamura_Man)
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/skeleton-found-italy-cave-yields-oldest-neanderthal-dna-n339661
https://i.imgur.com/AQDIfaH.png
https://i.imgur.com/O2JeOGG.png
I upgraded to Zeus, because I already had credit from Caesar, and I took advantage of the sale. Here are my top 10 samples from around the Copper age, as well as the Bronze Age.
https://i.imgur.com/AQDIfaH.png
https://i.imgur.com/O2JeOGG.png
I upgraded to Zeus, because I already had credit from Caesar, and I took advantage of the sale. Here are my top 10 samples from around the Copper age, as well as the Bronze Age.
Really very cool, Jovialis. I did the same that you do, using my credit from Caesar and now I am a Zeus:
https://i.imgur.com/7qJ9xct.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IY5Gdbk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/imNm5jV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5Wvs3HH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5KQs002.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BcT1HVH.jpg
valentinavalley2
26-09-19, 19:53
The reason why Italians are getting Illyrian in their results is because original Italians from
Venetia and Apulia were Illyrians, and although Etruscans are considered to be non indo European they do look like they have a lot of things in common with pre-balkanic population.
Before the Roman Expansion the Venetic and Missapi people were said to have be Illyrian in origin and most likely spoke an Illyrian language.
So it would make sense Italians and Albanians tend to over lap, same goes with Greeks and Western Turks.
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The reason why Italians are getting Illyrian in their results is because original Italians from
Venetia and Apulia were Illyrians, and although Etruscans are considered to be non indo European they do look like they have a lot of things in common with pre-balkanic population.
Before the Roman Expansion the Venetic and Missapi people were said to have be Illyrian in origin and most likely spoke an Illyrian language.
So it would make sense Italians and Albanians tend to over lap, same goes with Greeks and Western Turks.
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Hopefully, the upcoming studies will provide some insight into the Illyrian/Iapgians in Italy.
The reason why Italians are getting Illyrian in their results is because original Italians from
Venetia and Apulia were Illyrians, and although Etruscans are considered to be non indo European they do look like they have a lot of things in common with pre-balkanic population.
Before the Roman Expansion the Venetic and Missapi people were said to have be Illyrian in origin and most likely spoke an Illyrian language.
So it would make sense Italians and Albanians tend to over lap, same goes with Greeks and Western Turks.
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Latest linguistic study 2012
http://www.jolr.ru/files/(83)jlr2012-7(33-46).pdf
and
this is the latest study on what you refer to ....2015
https://i.postimg.cc/jSsM77y4/illyrian-oderzo.png
Messapic with Venetic ???/...I am not sure
Research on the origins and identity of Illyrians continues with established settlements at Opitergium (Oderzo),
(https://postimages.org/)
closest match for my father dna on the new
mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
Scythian Ukraine
Genetic Distance: 22.788
Sample Match! 55% closer than others users
my father mtdna is T2b17
.............................
i am same with genetic distance of Genetic Distance: 23.732
valentinavalley2
26-09-19, 21:30
this is the latest study on what you refer to ....2015
https://i.postimg.cc/jSsM77y4/illyrian-oderzo.png
Messapic with Venetic ???/...I am not sure
Research on the origins and identity of Illyrians continues with established settlements at Opitergium (Oderzo),
(https://postimages.org/)
Actually Illyrian is the ancestor of Albanians but Thracians are said to have been sister language or cousin of Illyrian, the same way as Slovakian is related to Polish today. I don’t really know what to think about Thracians being related to Illyrians linguistically, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trojan theory is correct.
The name Albani is a latinised word for the Illyrian tribe known as Arbon, Arbo or Arbeni, which is first mentioned in 2Century bc.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190926/c158873bb2fd48bb49295c1ca36b23dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190926/f5ccc81d13b4915d9f600efdc6433ca0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190926/f0e75518a6a1f2c6f2ed616b215c66c6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190926/3758bf5d37bb1b28992eab064c8469b7.jpg
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Actually Illyrian is the ancestor of Albanians but Thracians are said to have been sister language or cousin of Illyrian, the same way as Slovakian is related to Polish.
The name Albani is a latinised word for the Illyrian tribe known as Arbon, Arbo or Arbeni, which is first mentioned in 2Century bc.
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we should move this to another thread ..............but here is its origin .....Alban is used predominantly in the English and German languages, and it is derived from Latin origins. The name's meaning is man from Alba (https://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Alba). It is from the elements 'Alba' meaning white hill ; 'albus' white ; 'alp' rock. The name is derived from the Roman family name Albanus (Latin), meaning 'from Alba' in reference possibly to the ethnic name of a place in ancient Rome called Alba Longa. The place name is derived from the Latin 'albus' or the Celtic 'alp'. Alba could also refer to the Irish and Scottish Gaelic name for Scotland, which is derived from the Celtic word Albion (https://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Albion).
valentinavalley2
26-09-19, 21:38
we should move this to another thread ..............but here is its origin .....Alban is used predominantly in the English and German languages, and it is derived from Latin origins. The name's meaning is man from Alba (https://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Alba). It is from the elements 'Alba' meaning white hill ; 'albus' white ; 'alp' rock. The name is derived from the Roman family name Albanus (Latin), meaning 'from Alba' in reference possibly to the ethnic name of a place in ancient Rome called Alba Longa. The place name is derived from the Latin 'albus' or the Celtic 'alp'. Alba could also refer to the Irish and Scottish Gaelic name for Scotland, which is derived from the Celtic word Albion (https://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Albion).
Yes that is true, but the Albani tribe actually called themselves Arbeni people, or arberi people, a older name is Arbon, the term “Albani” was the latinised name for them. Maybe it was the Roman way to “force” latinise people...
Albania was known as Principality of Arbanon during the Middle Ages.
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Get back on topic, people.
There are dozens of "Albanian" threads. Find one.
valentinavalley2
26-09-19, 22:36
Get back on topic, people.
There are dozens of "Albanian" threads. Find one.
I was referring to the topic why Italians and Albanians over lap in ancestry.
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https://i.imgur.com/c2yqYik.png
Here is a PCA with samples strictly from 590-670 AD, which mainly show the Collegno and Szolad samples. However, it seems to show other samples that are slightly outside of those restrictions, i.e. the Justinian Plague victim from 760 AD.
https://i.imgur.com/c2yqYik.png
Here is a PCA with samples strictly from 590-670 AD, which mainly show the Collegno and Szolad samples. However, it seems to show other samples that are slightly outside of those restrictions, i.e. the Justinian Plague victim from 760 AD.
Same God :)
Same Setting - 590-670 AD:
https://i.imgur.com/y7mpXyf.jpg
MTA & Q-Matching with I3313 Illyrian/ Dalmatian Bronze Age / 1200 BC
https://i.imgur.com/FEukAhg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p1KjOHE.jpg
my Cousin from Cles trentino ...new numbers
Roman + Illyrian (2.211)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (4.365)
Roman (5.549)
Gallo-Roman (7.479)
Illyrian (8.625)
1. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
5. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
Same God :)
Same Setting - 590-670 AD:
https://i.imgur.com/y7mpXyf.jpg
MTA & Q-Matching with I3313 Illyrian/ Dalmatian Bronze Age / 1200 BC
https://i.imgur.com/FEukAhg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p1KjOHE.jpg
I think this is very crazy, but it's not I who is saying, but MTA:
https://i.imgur.com/CakZTEN.png
I think this is very crazy, but it's not I who is saying, but MTA:
https://i.imgur.com/CakZTEN.png
... or, You could be heavily related to Arthas the Great - Lion of Messapia"
... some say that He is the original and the inspiration of King Arthur.
Artas Principe Messapico :)
http://www.paraxeno.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/HellenisticIllyrianCavalry-1132x670.jpg
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messapi
... The Messapi were an ancient Illyrian population established in Messapia, in a territory corresponding to the Southern Murgie and Salento ..
my father still only has one sample for.........
https://i.postimg.cc/2yhBBJ9X/dna-ancient-for-dad.png (https://postimages.org/)
My Archaeological Maps:
samples 30, from 100 BC, until 595 AD
https://i.imgur.com/qz4RSyg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2uNfv3F.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eYCGpYu.png
samples 30, from 100 BC, until 670 AD (Collegno and Szload samples)
https://i.imgur.com/yCjMFpf.jpg
3D Sample Analysis PCA Top 4
https://i.imgur.com/B03odlL.gif
Romans / Hellenic Romans
:thinking: there's plenty of room to add a couple of ETRUSCANS
Come on MTA, Give it a Shot :grin:
3D Sample Analysis PCA Top 4
https://i.imgur.com/B03odlL.gif
Romans / Hellenic Romans
:thinking: there's plenty of room to add a couple of ETRUSCANS
Come on MTA, Give it a Shot :grin:
Salento. I will not deny that I am anxious for the inclusion of more samples from Italy, including Etruscans, and for the release of the "Regional Aarchaeogenetics" map of Italy. The Iberians have many overlaps with the Italians and I, as aIberian-descendant , have many overlaps. Waiting, as like you, Italy and Etruscans together, coming soon :) :smile::good_job:
https://i.imgur.com/aCiVwnU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SFXwA6M.jpg
2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.629 - CL94 (Click for more info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#))
18. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
29. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 13.6 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
32. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 14.38 - CL47b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
33. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.49 - CL57 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
35. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 14.82 - CL23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
46. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
49. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
52. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
59. Medieval Frank (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
62. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 18.69 - LSD021 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
66. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
73. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
78. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 19.87 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
80. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 19.94 - CL53 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
84. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 20.27 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
88. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 20.45 - SZ32 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
99. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.63 - SZ23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
100. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 21.64 - BSS31 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Ancestral Timeline:
https://i.imgur.com/KOCy6Tv.jpg
@ Duarte : also ... no Iapigi (no Messapi), ... no Etruschi ... :)
(they’re all overlapping with others)
Salento. I will not deny that I am anxious for the inclusion of more samples from Italy, including Etruscans, and for the release of the "Regional Aarchaeogenetics" map of Italy. The Iberians have many overlaps with the Italians and I, as aIberian-descendant , have many overlaps. Waiting, as like you, Italy and Etruscans together, coming soon :) :smile::good_job:
https://i.imgur.com/aCiVwnU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SFXwA6M.jpg
2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.629 - CL94 (Click for more info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#))
18. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
29. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 13.6 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
32. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 14.38 - CL47b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
33. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.49 - CL57 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
35. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 14.82 - CL23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
46. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
49. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
52. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
59. Medieval Frank (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
62. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 18.69 - LSD021 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
66. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
73. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.63 - SZ23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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@ Duarte : also ... no Iapigi (no Messapi), ... no Etruschi ... :)
The origin of the Messapii is debated. The most credited theory is that they came from Illyria as one of the Illyrian tribes who settled in Apulia and that they emerged as a sub-tribe distinct from the rest of the Iapyges. It seems that the Iapyges spread northwards from the Salento.[8][9]
The pre-Italic settlement of Gnatia was founded in the fifteenth century BC during the Bronze Age. It was captured and settled by the Iapyges, as they occupied large tracts of territory in Apulia. The Messapii developed a distinct identity from the Iapyges. Rudiae was first settled from the late ninth or early eighth centuries BC. In the late sixth century BC, it developed into a much more important settlement. It flourished under the Messapii, but after their defeat by Rome it dwindled and became a small village. The nearby Lupiae (Lecce) flourished at its expense. The Messapi did not have a centralised form of government. Their towns were independent city-states. They had trade relationships with the Greek cities of Magna Graecia.
https://i.imgur.com/hmPssGz.png
@Duarte That’s why I wrote ... “no Iapigi (no Messapi) ...”
otherwise I wouldn’t have added the Messapi :)
It’s confusing because there are contradicting theories:
... The Iapygians were an Indo-European people who inhabited Apulia in classical antiquity. They lived in the eponymous region Iapygia and were divided in three populations: the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.
Their land was annexed by the Roman Republic, and they were eventually Latinized and assimilated into Roman culture...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
@Diarte That’s why I wrote ... “no Iapigi (no Messapi) ...”
otherwise I wouldn’t have added the Messapi :)
It’s confusing because there are contradicting theories:
... The Iapygians were an Indo-European people who inhabited Apulia in classical antiquity. They lived in the eponymous region Iapygia and were divided in three populations: the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.
Their land was annexed by the Roman Republic, and they were eventually Latinized and assimilated into Roman culture...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
Thanks for the additional informations. You're right dear friend. The Messapians are just an overlamping with the Illyrians. The Illyrians that appears in your and in mine timelines are just overlapings. The ideal will be the inclusion of origial samples of Messapians and Iapygians peoples to fill in the gaps that exist between the north and the south on the Archeogenetic map of Italy. Big hug :):good_job::smile:
@Duarte That’s why I wrote ... “no Iapigi (no Messapi) ...”
otherwise I wouldn’t have added the Messapi :)
It’s confusing because there are contradicting theories:
... The Iapygians were an Indo-European people who inhabited Apulia in classical antiquity. They lived in the eponymous region Iapygia and were divided in three populations: the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.
Their land was annexed by the Roman Republic, and they were eventually Latinized and assimilated into Roman culture...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapygians
most of the pre tribes of the apulia area seem to be umbrian
The region was previously inhabited by Italic peoples (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italic_peoples) of Southern Italy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Italy); among them are the Ausones (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausones)/Oscans (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osci), Sabines (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabines), Lucani (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucani_(ancient_people)), Paeligni (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paeligni), Bruttii (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruttii), Campanians (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanians), Aequi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aequi), Samnites (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samnites) and Frentani (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frentani).
the biggest of the 3 tribes the Daunians, Peucetians and Messapians.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunians
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunians)https://www.anticopedie.fr/mondes/mondes-gb/apulie-doc.html
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272312013_The_Tribal_Tattooing_of_Daunian_Women
Only illyrians mixing with celts had tattooing ............
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/146195711798369328?journalCode=yeja20
Check the net for Daunian they where the biggest of the 3 tribes ( actually , they made up nearly 50% )
(https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/146195711798369328?journalCode=yeja20)
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The DNA-Spotlight reminds me of the NatGeo Genius-Matches. NatGeo uses the mtDNA and or the Y Chromosome.
I don’t know what criteria MTA is implementing.
https://i.imgur.com/vburW0Y.jpg
from NatGeo:
... We determine your Genius Matches through the analysis of either mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, two parts of the DNA which are inherited directly, without mixing, from one ancestor in any given generation.
Furthermore, if you go back 150,000 years, all seven billion humans share one single, common maternal ancestor: A Mitochondrial Eve.
Her male counterpart was Y- chromosome Adam.
Actually, any two individual people that ever lived may share a match (an Eve or an Adam) at a more recent point in time.
First maternal cousins, for example, share a match at the grandmother level.
Although it’s true that every two living people share a common ancestor, in reality we share multiple ancestors.
Some of these common ancestors lived centuries ago, while others lived and migrated across the earth millennia ago.
... estimate when in time you shared a direct female or direct male ancestor with a famous historical genius ...
My Spotlights are Mummies from the Late and Ptolemaic Kingdoms in Ancient Egypt. LOL
https://i.imgur.com/YLseWt3.jpg
The DNA-Spotlight reminds me of the NatGeo Genius-Matches. NatGeo uses the mtDNA and or the Y Chromosome.
I don’t know what criteria MTA is implementing.
https://i.imgur.com/vburW0Y.jpg
from NatGeo:
... We determine your Genius Matches through the analysis of either mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, two parts of the DNA which are inherited directly, without mixing, from one ancestor in any given generation.
Furthermore, if you go back 150,000 years, all seven billion humans share one single, common maternal ancestor: A Mitochondrial Eve.
Her male counterpart was Y- chromosome Adam.
Actually, any two individual people that ever lived may share a match (an Eve or an Adam) at a more recent point in time.
First maternal cousins, for example, share a match at the grandmother level.
Although it’s true that every two living people share a common ancestor, in reality we share multiple ancestors.
Some of these common ancestors lived centuries ago, while others lived and migrated across the earth millennia ago.
... estimate when in time you shared a direct female or direct male ancestor with a famous historical genius ...
Dear Salento.
I think that MTA consider just the autosomal matches with the DNA of ancient samples. At least is what I can see in my specific case.
Cheers :)
https://i.imgur.com/YksNkGu.png
https://i.imgur.com/YLseWt3.jpg
My Spotlights are Mummies from the Late and Ptolemaic Kingdoms in Ancient Egypt. LOL
https://i.imgur.com/YLseWt3.jpg
:thinking: if NatGeo uses Haplogroups scaling for Genius Matches, they must know for sure, 100%, Ramses II and King Tut Y Haplogroups (Paternal Matches), but NatGeo doesn’t specify it to us.
They don't specify it in any of the Genius Matches, maybe they want to avoid controversies.
https://i.imgur.com/uhvgUD4.jpg
my medical ......only above 1.0
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:thinking: if NatGeo uses Haplogroups scaling for Genius Matches, they must know for sure, 100%, Ramses II and King Tut Y Haplogroups (Paternal Matches), but NatGeo doesn’t specify it to us.
They don't specify it in any of the Genius Matches, maybe they want to avoid controversies.
RAMSES II - The mummy who had to get a passport :grin:
https://youtu.be/oFMG3qqRclU
Your Tuscan Knight Crusader wasn't a Tuscan but someone of European and Near Eastern ancestry and can be modelled, besides being a mixture of Tuscan and Lebanese, also as a mixture of North Italian and Lebanese, and Iberian and Lebanese and so on I guess.
https://www.sanger.ac.uk/news/view/crusaders-made-love-and-war-genetic-study-finds?fbclid=IwAR23_lb83vhy5IxyXliRiB6AuLlc1-BOSO511KURyZ-Sbubf6RCzr93f6iM
By Near Eastern they mean PIE Anatolian . People of the Levant of ancient times even some until Medieval times had a Anatolian or partly South European partly Anatolian ethnic origin.
West Asian Anatolian. South West Asian Semite/Canaanite Middle eastern.
Richard III was definitely G2a, and Darwin R1b from what I know, so I don't see how this works.
My results using 23andme v3 data ....................all previous posts before this one was using my ftdna data
# 2 is new
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Richard III was definitely G2a, and Darwin R1b from what I know, so I don't see how this works.
Paternal and Maternal Haplogroups (in my case y T and mt H)
y & mt matches for sure, the combination of the two, and related hierarchical close Haplogroups. I think :)
Women could get less Matches because they don't have the Y chromosome.
My results using 23andme v3 data ....................all previous posts before this one was using my ftdna data
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3. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.808 - I3313 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.782 - SZ36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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5. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 9.904 - scy197b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.926 - CL36 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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7. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 9.992 - NS3c (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.1 - SZ43 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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finally got a map
https://i.postimg.cc/W3VnS2fr/23-map-from-mta.png
https://i.postimg.cc/s2YPMkD2/roman-age.png (https://postimages.org/)
I went from being a Viking/Celt/Saxon to being a Vandal/Saxon/Celt lol
I went from being a Viking/Celt/Saxon to being a Vandal/Saxon/Celt lolloool!:nuts:
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Crazy lool... :confused2:
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Crazy lool... :confused2:
GTFO dweeb
GTFO dweeb
Matty, are your English family from South East England or South West England? If so the largest ''Germania'' input to your genetics is typical.
My Spotlights are Mummies from the Late and Ptolemaic Kingdoms in Ancient Egypt. LOL
https://i.imgur.com/YLseWt3.jpg
Why is that funny? Less usual for I assume you are Portuguese given your location. I do not believe that the dominant heritage of ''King Tut'' was E1b1b1a1b2-v22 would have been his dominant haplogroup it would depend on the time period of the strain. But E3b is coastal Levantine North African. He could of been easily a mixture of that but also ethnic North African?
Here is the map it's just labelled as ''Mediterraneans''
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71343773_460955034768018_9171374761882681344_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQmSU50GxYjb8Ylfj-idPkR0vzVSLCLuWNbAHxCAkM-2nUAi1KKccHgZyRQt5tvEuqJtK_KKL855zo2Rl_8GWtRX&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=31d97beb8d4f9caf7f2ba93167a1f28f&oe=5E2E5E2D
If this is the case, I wonder what they assume the Phoenicians to be haplogroup wise or the Berbers of North Africa ( kabyle )
Why is that funny? Less usual for I assume you are Portuguese given your location. I do not believe that the dominant heritage of ''King Tut'' was E1b1b1a1b2-v22 would have been his dominant haplogroup it would depend on the time period of the strain. But E3b is coastal Levantine North African. He could of been easily a mixture of that but also ethnic North African?
Here is the map it's just labelled as ''Mediterraneans''
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71343773_460955034768018_9171374761882681344_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQmSU50GxYjb8Ylfj-idPkR0vzVSLCLuWNbAHxCAkM-2nUAi1KKccHgZyRQt5tvEuqJtK_KKL855zo2Rl_8GWtRX&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=31d97beb8d4f9caf7f2ba93167a1f28f&oe=5E2E5E2D
What I find funny or not it’s problem mine, not yours, and I didn't ask your opinion. But thanks the same way. It came for free, as is typical of T-rolls. Their lack of sense of humor is typical of their countrymen. What I find funny is just the fact that my Spotlights are generic mummies and not a specific individual as King Tut or Pharaoh Ramses II. No problem for me having matches with ancient Egyptian mummies. Maybe being a problem to you, not to me. I won't waste my precious time accessing your link considering your Eupedia rating. I know that you will try confront me in yours followIng posts, but my answers will always be the silence. I never considered anyone's comment as unuseful. Your coment will be the first. Everything in life always has a first time. Feel free to do the same.
Have a good time. :wary2::wary2:
Matty, are your English family from South East England or South West England? If so the largest ''Germania'' input to your genetics is typical.
I’m not exactly sure. My English ancestry isn’t all that well documented as most of my recent ancestry is from northwestern Europe and Scandinavia. I think it’s mostly SE England. I do believe I have distant ancestors via a great grandfather from Kent and Yorkshire. This part of part of the family has colonial origins in New England and Pennsylvania.
What I find funny or not it’s problem mine, not yours, and I didn't ask your opinion. But thanks the same way. It came for free, as is typical of T-rolls. Their lack of sense of humor is typical of their countrymen. What I find funny is just the fact that my Spotlights are generic mummies and not a specific individual as King Tut or Pharaoh Ramses II. No problem for me having matches with ancient Egyptian mummies. Maybe being a problem to you, not to me. I won't waste my precious time accessing your link considering your Eupedia rating. I know that you will try confront me in yours followIng posts, but my answers will always be the silence. I never considered anyone's comment as unuseful. Your coment will be the first. Everything in life always has a first time. Feel free to do the same.
Have a good time. :wary2::wary2:
Thank you. I was simply trying to say the haplogroup would have been unusual for him since he is not purely Mediterranean, certainly not a full ''pre historic coastal Eastern Mediterranean''. His parents show considerable ethnic North African admixture.
I am not trying to call you anything other than what you are a Portuguese man from Brazil.
I’m not exactly sure. My English ancestry isn’t all that well documented as most of my recent ancestry is from northwestern Europe and Scandinavia. I think it’s mostly SE England. I do believe I have distant ancestors via a great grandfather from Kent and Yorkshire. This part of part of the family has colonial origins in New England and Pennsylvania.
That's exactly where I am Kent, South East your results were extremely close to my Father's family who is from Norfolk and Kent. That's why the question of mine came up he is also Irish/Welsh but it's like 1/8 of his ancestry. I got Scandinavian and North German from mine. So yes interesting result. Kent, is one of the main diaspora of Anglo Saxon heritage of all of the UK let alone England.
I have some Irish ancestry as well. My mother is mostly Norwegian and northwest German (ostfriesland)
Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury - My New DNA Spotlight:
https://i.imgur.com/vyFwRiW.png
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I have some Irish ancestry as well. My mother is mostly Norwegian and northwest German (ostfriesland)
I got Niedersachsen close to the Elbe river. Did they tell you your Mother's main haplogroup? I wonder if it was the male equivalent of my Paternal line which is I-S24 Saxon. Interesting how you have minimal Celtic but how you have things like Norman, Lombard, Frankish etc
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06-10-19, 12:06
I got Niedersachsen close to the Elbe river. Did they tell you your Mother's main haplogroup? I wonder if it was the male equivalent of my Paternal line which is I-S24 Saxon. Interesting how you have minimal Celtic but how you have things like Norman, Lombard, Frankish etc
What is Celtic on that site? The only genomes with Gaelic are the Icelandic samples. Most people with Northwestern European ancestry will get similar results.
What is Celtic on that site? The only genomes with Gaelic are the Icelandic samples. Most people with Northwestern European ancestry will get similar results.
I am trying to say he doesn't have much Celtic he has Norman Frank Lombard etc He has some Scottish late Bronze Age
The ancient Celts were various population groups living in several parts of Europe north of the Mediterranean region from the Late Bronze Age... ... and Goidelic (Irish and its medieval derivatives, Scots Gaelic and Manx).
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25. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 14.27 - I2416-BB (Click for more info)
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Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (7.471)
Hellenic Roman + Pontic (7.588)
Pontic (10.5)
Hellenic Roman (11.35)
Seleucid (12.48)
This website is giving everyone the same results at various distances.
Not me, dosas. :)
https://i.imgur.com/UvSQWrv.png
Northwestern Europeans get a completely different set, which makes sense.
I got Niedersachsen close to the Elbe river. Did they tell you your Mother's main haplogroup? I wonder if it was the male equivalent of my Paternal line which is I-S24 Saxon. Interesting how you have minimal Celtic but how you have things like Norman, Lombard, Frankish etc
It appears that I have a lot of celtic unless I'm not looking at this correctly. I don't know my mother's haplogroup at all. She's never been tested but I should have them do that.
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Pict (670 AD) ..... 4.462 - CL83 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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2. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 5.02 - I5377 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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3. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.297 - I2860 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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4. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 5.432 - I2097 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 5.435 - I5383 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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6. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 5.617 - PCA100_Mas13 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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7. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 5.646 - I2452 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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8. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 5.708 - HinxtonO1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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9. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 5.739 - NS1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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10. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.824 - I2859 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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11. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.968 - SZ15 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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12. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 6.111 - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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13. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 6.262 - I1767 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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14. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 6.54 - I2573 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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15. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 6.814 - VDP-A6 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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16. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.864 - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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17. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 7.094 - I2458 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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18. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.242 - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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19. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 7.253 - Unknown (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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20. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 7.281 - I2981 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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21. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.302 - SSJ-A2 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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22. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1349 AD) ..... 7.33 - OSL9B (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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23. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 7.336 - CL92 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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24. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) ..... 7.341 - TSK-A26 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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25. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 7.369 - I7573 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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26. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 7.389 - NS6 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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27. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 7.498 - I3875 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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28. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.624 - SZ12 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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29. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 7.653 - CL146 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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30. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.677 - SZ14 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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31. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.69 - 2099 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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32. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 7.723 - I5515 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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33. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.729 - KNS-A1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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34. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 7.749 - I2568 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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35. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 7.886 - I2653 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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36. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 7.932 - I8206 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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37. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 7.98 - AED_249 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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38. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.042 - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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39. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 8.052 - NW_255 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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40. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 8.06 - CL84 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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41. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.087 - ORE-A1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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42. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 8.115 - Rathlin2 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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43. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.141 - SZ4 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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44. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.149 - 97029 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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45. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.268 - Shohola (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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46. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) ..... 8.333 - KOV-A2 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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47. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 8.342 - ALH_1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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48. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 8.411 - I5367 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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49. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.439 - GTE-A1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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50. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.476 - GRS-A1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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51. Iron Age Melton England (85 BC) ..... 8.506 - M1489 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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52. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) ..... 8.557 - DA119 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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53. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.623 - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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54. Early Bronze Age Hexham (1900 BC) ..... 8.634 - I2609 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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55. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 8.688 - I6680 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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56. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.727 - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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57. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.796 - stg021 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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58. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.8 - 84035 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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59. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.802 - OakO4 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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60. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.836 - DKS-A1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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Hi guys! First post. Here's my results. I'm around 75 % swedish and 25 % british.
Your closest Ancient populations...
Longoba
LongobardsVikingsVikings (Icelandic)
Viking + Longobard (4.207)
Viking Icelandic + Longobard (4.777)
Longobard (5.713)
Viking (6.469)
Viking Icelandic (7.388)
I made this:
https://i.imgur.com/zsoqbYl.png
I made this:
https://i.imgur.com/zsoqbYl.png
Good job. :)
Hello dear European friends. Have I been missed? Me too to you. I have returned from vacation. With the application it has been an odyssey to send news. There have been some closer changes. Right now I am trying to remember how images are published and all that. Greetings and well found.
Hello dear European friends. Have I been missed? Me too to you. I have returned from vacation. With the application it has been an odyssey to send news. There have been some closer changes. Right now I am trying to remember how images are published and all that. Greetings and well found.
Welcome back, Carlos! :)
Welcome back, Carlos! :)
Thanks!!!
We will start with my maps of Iberia as it could not be otherwise.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CV-HKiqay2U/XaEhfr-ncBI/AAAAAAAABBM/Bgso8OJ3O_ErfF-hMABTzcfJ85V8RHFxwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/earlybronzeage.jpg
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It turns out that I'm in the Big Y 700 process. I'm going for 111 and it's taking me too long, but it has given me the opportunity to present the DNA file again and there have been some changes that I don't know if it's related to BIG Y. The Roman map has changed the rule.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hccacjhrzeY/XaG5-gsT7zI/AAAAAAAABBY/orPrdoHENAAUnDYWKn_5u-sOu1N0r5GmACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Romanromanrule.jpg
Before:
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After:
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You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)Info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Medieval Iberian
670 AD
CL23
Total cM=46.48
Largest segment=27.21 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
91
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
27.21 cM
Chr. 17
5.5 cM
Chr. 20
13.76 cM
Ilergetes Outlier Catalan
440 BC
I12410
Total cM=39.2
Largest segment=25.97 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 43) - Your raw DNA is
75
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
25.97 cM
Chr. 8
3.69 cM
Chr. 11
9.52 cM
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas
1290 BC
I12208
Total cM=47.34
Largest segment=21.73 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
98
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 6
8.12 cM
Chr. 11
8.83 cM
Chr. 14
4.29 cM
Chr. 16
21.73 cM
Chr. 17
4.35 cM
Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia
80 AD
I10866
Total cM=29.84
Largest segment=10.05 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is
88
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
8.58 cM
Chr. 11
10.05 cM
Chr. 12
7.16 cM
Chr. 17
4.03 cM
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas
1290 BC
I12209
Total cM=31.9
Largest segment=9.97 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 47) - Your raw DNA is
80
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 6
9.97 cM
Chr. 8
8.42 cM
Chr. 11
9.51 cM
Chr. 20
3.98 cM
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy
670 AD
CL47b
Total cM=12.95
Largest segment=9.27 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 39) - Your raw DNA is
63
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 8
9.27 cM
Chr. 20
3.67 cM
Vascones Tribe Vasconia
280 BC
I3759
Total cM=15.97
Largest segment=8.61 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 35) - Your raw DNA is
74
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 11
8.61 cM
Chr. 17
3.79 cM
Chr. 20
3.56 cM
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary
550 BC
DA198
Total cM=12.33
Largest segment=8.53 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is
83
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
8.53 cM
Chr. 17
3.79 cM
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7498
Total cM=7.72
Largest segment=7.72 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 34) - Your raw DNA is
15
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 20
7.72 cM
Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy300
Total cM=10.5
Largest segment=6.49 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is
75
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 11
6.49 cM
Chr. 20
4.0 cM
Vasconic Tribe
275 BC
I8209
Total cM=5.24
Largest segment=5.24 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is
45
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 20
5.24 cM
Medieval Piedmont
670 AD
CL57
Total cM=13.16
Largest segment=4.5 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
94
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
4.5 cM
Chr. 5
2.03 cM
Chr. 17
2.11 cM
Chr. 20
4.5 cM
Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy305
Total cM=8.02
Largest segment=4.45 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is
64
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 3
3.57 cM
Chr. 11
4.45 cM
Iberian / Piedmont
670 AD
CL94
Total cM=6.4
Largest segment=4.14 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
54
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 11
4.14 cM
Chr. 20
2.26 cM
Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC
scy192
Total cM=8.31
Largest segment=3.9 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
87
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 11
3.9 cM
Chr. 15
2.11 cM
Chr. 17
2.28 cM
Vascones Tribe Vasconia
280 BC
I3758
Total cM=7.53
Largest segment=3.87 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
35
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
3.87 cM
Chr. 8
3.65 cM
Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury
2300 BC
I2416-BB
Total cM=3.76
Largest segment=3.76 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 5) - Your raw DNA is
36
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
3.76 cM
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan
200 BC
I3320
Total cM=3.49
Largest segment=3.49 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is
49
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 20
3.49 cM
Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy197b
Total cM=9.52
Largest segment=3.37 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is
93
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 7
1.95 cM
Chr. 10
1.96 cM
Chr. 12
2.22 cM
Chr. 20
3.37 cM
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I12515
Total cM=3.24
Largest segment=3.24 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 31) - Your raw DNA is
60
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 3
3.24 cM
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I12514
Total cM=3.19
Largest segment=3.19 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is
22
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 20
3.19 cM
Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC
I4331
Total cM=3.11
Largest segment=3.11 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
26
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
3.11 cM
Basque Carolingian
650 AD
I3777
Total cM=4.54
Largest segment=2.77 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is
87
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 1
1.76 cM
Chr. 19
2.77 cM
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I12516
Total cM=2.46
Largest segment=2.46 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
10
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 3
2.46 cM
Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia
80 AD
I8475
Total cM=2.21
Largest segment=2.21 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is
2
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 14
2.21 cM
Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea
900 BC
MJ12
Total cM=3.89
Largest segment=2.07 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is
62
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
2.07 cM
Chr. 4
1.81 cM
Basque Carolingian
790 AD
I7673
Total cM=3.89
Largest segment=1.99 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is
78
% closer than other matching users
Chr. 6
1.9 cM
Chr. 10
1.99 cM
These ceramics are very beautiful and involved a lot of work and if I have them I want them to continue appearing in addition to the new values.
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I wish there is a way to not include the unreliable/maybe fake, red circles from all the tests
11468
This doesn't make any sense :sad-2:
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Yes now! I remember the huge ceramic mug I made in elementary school. All the children were expectant, the teacher opened the oven door and was taking out the different pieces of each student that were a disaster but when he took out my cup it looked like metal and the surprised teacher snapped ironically: You don't deserve it.
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I wonder the equivalent. I and my dad are nearest to Roman/Ancient Greeks/Hellenic Romans. The Roman examples I am near are obviously early medieval times. I couldn't want anything more than to know whether they're on GEDMATCH for correlation.
Roman Gladiators from Yorkhttps://mytrueancestry.com/img/YorkArena.jpg
Detailed analysis of these gladiators from York revealed some fascinating results. The bones showed various degrees of wear and tear as one might expect from the dangerous sport: 6DRIF-18 revealed a spinal fracture of the first vertibrae, 6DRIF-21, 6DRIF-3, and 3DRIF-16 meanwhile have fractured forearms, ankles and wrists. 6DRIF-22 has a skull injury as well as a stab to the neck - his extra vertebrae did not seem to assist with his fate. 6DRIF-23 meanwhile had 4 cuts to his jaw and was fully decapitated - clearly not the best fate to have. Last but not least 3DRIF-26 is fascinating indeed - he had a left shoulder injury, fractured ribs, damage wrists - and from a genetic standpoint is a deviation from the rest. His background compared to ancient samples from the time period matches very close to Ptolemaic Egyptians or the Near East.
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/YorkConstantine.jpg
Constantine came to Eboracum with his father, the emperor Constantius in 305 AD. After the emperor died the following July in York, the soldiers proclaimed Constantine to be their leader. Within 20 years, Emperor Constantine united the whole of the Roman Empire and would be known as Constantine the Great who did not just restore peace to the Roman Empire, but also relocated the Roman capital to the newly built Constantinople. The eventual decline of Roman Britain in the early 400s led to significant socioeconomic changes in Britain. The effect of Constantine's religious policy allowed development of Christianity in Roman Britain, which led to the first bishop of York to be named. Today there are numerous visible remains in York from this time period including a Roman Basilica, walls, a tower in the city walls and Roman baths.
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Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York6DRIF-18 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H1bsY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a
Deep Dive Match! 88% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 6.8641
Sample Match! 93% closer than others usersCeltic Gladiator York6DRIF-21 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: J1c3e2Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a2c2
Genetic Distance: 10.894
Sample Match! 71% closer than others usersCeltic Briton Gladiator York6DRIF-22 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: HY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a2b
(You do not match this sample)Celtic Briton Gladiator York6DRIF-23 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H6a1b2Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a
Genetic Distance: 8.0429
Sample Match! 95% closer than others usersCeltic Briton Gladiator York6DRIF-3 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: J1b1a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1
Genetic Distance: 8.6239
Sample Match! 90% closer than others usersCeltic Briton Gladiator York3DRIF-16 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H6a1aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1
Genetic Distance: 10.621
Sample Match! 71% closer than others usersEgyptian/Near East Gladiator York3DRIF-26 (250 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H5Y-DNA Haplogroup: J2
(You do not match this sample
Merovingian Nobleshttps://mytrueancestry.com/img/MerovingianArmor.jpg
Niederstotzingen is one of the most famous Merovingian grave sites. A noble family of 5 males was buried together representing 3 generations. They were accompanied by their retinue and had a variety of military equipment representing very diverse cultural styles. Of the remaining 5 good samples found at the dig, 2 were likely Gallo-Roman or Byzantine retinue, one was a Slavic child, and 2 were Alemannic warriors. All the bodies were male and many showed wear and tear from combat. Among the many artifacts buried was a Byzantine helmet and armor. The armor consists of platelets known as lamellae which are laced together in rows. This type of armor typifies the broad culture found in the Merovingian realm. Many other Byzantine items were found buried amongst the family including equestrian gear and personal items. Numerous Longobard items wer also found indicating contact with the Germanic tribe settled into northern Italy.
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Merovingian NobleNS12b (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 9.3657
Sample Match! 96% closer than others usersMerovingian LordNS9 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 9.6598
Sample Match! 98% closer than others usersMerovingian NobleNS1 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 5.7398
Sample Match! 98% closer than others usersYoung Merovingian NobleNS6 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H65aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b
Genetic Distance: 7.3890
Sample Match! 87% closer than others usersMerovingian NobleNS3a (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
(You do not match this sample)
Philip Calvert
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/CalvertDad.jpg
George Calvert was the first to dream of a colony in America where Catholics and Protestants could prosper together. George had studied at Trinity College at Oxford and been knighted by King James I for good service as an advisor. Sir George Calvert became Secretary of State for the King. Having just converted to Catholicism, he was forced to resign from his job so the King gave him another title - First Baron of Baltimore, a town on the Irish coast.
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Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland
2099 (1683 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: T2b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R-S10067
Genetic Distance: 7.6903
Sample Match! 98% closer than others usersSt Marys Coffin Maryland
I2097 (1683 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: HV0
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R-S10067
Deep Dive Match! 67% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 5.4328
Sample Match! 98% closer than others users
Ancient Britain and Stonehengehttps://mytrueancestry.com/img/BritNeolithic.jpg
Stonehenge was built in Neolithic times (circa 2300 BC) and drew ailing pilgrims from around Europe for what they believed to be its healing properties, according to recent research. Pilgrims would wear amulets crafted using pieces of the rocks at the monument. One dig uncovered masses of fragments carved out of the bluestones which were used to create amulets. Stonehenge could be compared to Lourdes in France today. Many of the ancient skeletons found nearby seem to show signs of serious disease or injury and many show signs of coming from far away. The outer stones are what most people associate with the monument. There is also a competing theory that the temple was a meeting point between the land of the living and the dead. In either case, this massive monument would attract visitors from far and wide as archaeogenetics discovers.
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Cheddar Man Somerset EnglandCheddar (7150 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b1Y-DNA Haplogroup: I2a2
(You do not match this sample)Boscombe Bowmen AmesburyI2416-BB (2300 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1b1a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a
(You do not match this sample)Amesbury Archer CompanionI2565-Companion (2300 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: W1Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
(You do not match this sample)Bronze Age Golden Boy AmesburyI2639 (1450 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: T2e1aY-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
(You do not match this sample)
DNA Spotlight - Roman Gladiators
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InfamousAngel99
14-10-19, 20:00
My results between my Ancestry and 23andMe kits were different but only slightly. #4 and #5 were switched, and some of the closeness to each population is different. Everything else was the same:
1. Viking Icelandic + Frank (2.79, 3.341)
2. Gaul + Frank (3.169, 3.708)
3. Gaul (5.498, 5.284)
4. Frank (6.485, 7.418)
5. Viking Icelandic (7.513, 6.744)
Happy Columbus Day !
https://i.imgur.com/i05XzUT.jpg
Landing of Columbus (United States Capitol Rotunda) :grin:
https://i.imgur.com/ks0vR1x.jpg
11473Happy belated leif ericsson day!
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Happy Columbus Day !
https://i.imgur.com/i05XzUT.jpg
Landing of Columbus (United States Capitol Rotunda) :grin:
https://i.imgur.com/ks0vR1x.jpg
I am happy to see the Empire State Building in the color of the Italian flag.
I am happy to see the Empire State Building in the color of the Italian flag.
Me too :)
imo the crazy “norms” portrayed on social media, and in the news in general, do not remotely represent and constitute the beliefs and the opinions of the vast majority of Americans.
The Progressives ... are trying to hijack all of the Mass Medias and Colleges in order to influence and to give the impression of an America that doesn't exist, and with their harsh tactics they hope to change the mind and the pulse of the Nation to their views.
.... and ... I went off-topic again :)
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https://i.imgur.com/ksgB5e2.png
Here are some interesting results with these settings.
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New Tool
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I have put 10 examples to get a bigger image since the entire list of the MTA website cannot be enlarged with quality.
I have not quite understood what the male or female symbols indicate in each individual of the 100 examples.
My Top Match, SZ36 matches :) my Y Haplogroup, although I have another Top Match SZ40 on another Kit.
(AncestryDNA and 23andme don’t get along ...) :grin:
https://i.imgur.com/FbpIuSf.jpg
My Top Match, SZ36 matches :) my Y Haplogroup, although I have another Top Match SZ40 on another Kit.
(AncestryDNA and 23andme don’t get along ...) :grin:
https://i.imgur.com/FbpIuSf.jpg
Mine below ...................other are beyond 11.5
1. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.06 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
8. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.11 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
your #1 is very far with a number of over 11.5
My 1st cousin from Cles, Val di Non, trentino
1. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
5. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 8.921 - scy197b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
8. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
Mine below ...................other are beyond 11.5
1. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.06 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
8. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.11 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
your #1 is very far with a number of over 11.5
I say that the samples of my (and others) REAL closest Ancient Population are still Private in the Research labs of two Universities.
I was Showing the new Haplogroup feature: click the more info link and look for the red Haplogroup tab.
If I follow your Standard, I would have nothing to show.
My Top 10:
https://i.imgur.com/hV2hoaO.jpg
You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)
Medieval Iberian
mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
Ilergetes Outlier Catalan
mtDNA: HY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas
mtDNA: K1a1b1
Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia
mtDNA: K1b2a
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas
mtDNA: H1ah
Vascones Tribe Vasconia
mtDNA: H1Y-DNA: I2a1a1a
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary
mtDNA: H7a1Y-DNA: G-PF3378
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
mtDNA: H3a1Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a
Scythian Southern Moldova
mtDNA: H5
Neolithic Ireland
mtDNA: HV0
Vasconic Tribe
mtDNA: U1a1aY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2
Bronze Age Jutland Denmark
mtDNA: IY-DNA: R1b1a2-PF6410
Medieval Piedmont
mtDNA: H24aY-DNA: R1b
Scythian Southern Moldova
mtDNA: U5a2Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2
Iberian / Piedmont
mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1b
Scythian Southern Moldova
mtDNA: H8c
Vascones Tribe Vasconia
mtDNA:
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Halstatt Celt
mtDNA: H6a1aY-DNA: R1b
Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury
mtDNA: K1b1a1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan
mtDNA: I1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2a5
Scythian Southern Moldova
mtDNA: U5a1a1
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate
mtDNA: H3Y-DNA: J2a
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
mtDNA: HV0+195Y-DNA: J2a
Illyrian / Dalmatian
mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
Unetice Bohemia
mtDNA: K1a4a1
Alemannic Bavaria
mtDNA: U5b
Basque Carolingian
mtDNA: V17
Illyrian / Dalmatian
mtDNA: HV0e
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
mtDNA: U5b2b2
Bell Beaker Poland
mtDNA: H1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2
Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia
mtDNA: T2b
Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea
mtDNA: H35
Basque Carolingian
mtDNA: W1+119
Bell Beaker France
mtDNA: HY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a
Bell Beaker Southern France
mtDNA: H1eY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2b1
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ahj0UsHRxKg/XabteoQ6VpI/AAAAAAAABFE/YDbGJLHs1HYC2PApnqjvpjIwKVFecvCdQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/cmAncestrySymbolmachoHembra.JPEG
There are NO Ancient Samples from Center and South Italy (yet).
It explains for some of the distances.
Map Top 10:
https://i.imgur.com/6QBlSKk.jpg
To Salento
What is the breakdown of Torna Alta Andalucía?
Ooh, plague victim. I have a Dutch plague victim on my map. I also match all of the gladiators except for the Egyptian one, which makes sense if they were local-my grandmother's family, the Robinsons, comes from Yorkshire, and I have other lines leading to Yorkshire and neighboring Lancashire.
To Salento
What is the breakdown of Torna Alta Andalucía?
She’s a Señorita from Andalusìa :)
https://i.imgur.com/MU2moNQ.jpg
mtDNA H1
Ancient:
Philistine + Roman (7.413)
Ancient Greek + Philistine (9.127)
Philistine (11.25)
Roman (14.48)
Ancient Greek (14.61)
Modern (imo she matches the Sephardic Jews):
1. Algerian_Jewish (10.62)
2. Italian_Jewish (11.37)
3. West_Sicilian (12.63)
4. East_Sicilian (14.00)
5. South_Italian (14.39)
6. Ashkenazi (14.44)
7. Greek_Islands (14.48)
8. Tunisian_Jewish (14.5
Pax Augusta
16-10-19, 14:44
My Top Match, SZ36 matches :) my Y Haplogroup, although I have another Top Match SZ40 on another Kit.
(AncestryDNA and 23andme don’t get along ...) :grin:
https://i.imgur.com/FbpIuSf.jpg
Salento, 11.62 is a great distance though. So your Top Match SZ36 is not your best fit.
Salento, 11.62 is a great distance though. So your Top Match SZ36 is not your best fit.
They don’t have REAL Ancient Center and S.Italians samples yet.
https://i.imgur.com/voKlQX8.jpg
The purple triangles (Romans) below are probably my REAL Top Matches, but are not available.
https://i.imgur.com/k1HSzXT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HbGHTEd.jpg
another perspective:
DnaPortal K36 Ancient:
https://i.imgur.com/5IQx96f.jpg
nMonte:
https://i.imgur.com/x7PMxE4.jpg
Pax is right about the distance to that particular sample, 11.62 is fairly large. Though I'm sure, as you said ,we will all have different results when the samples are utilized. This particular calculator will have that happen, since they continuously update with new samples available. However, in regards to those samples from that "Leaked PCA"; we will still need to verify their identities, and the time-frame. I think it is important that we wait and be patient before investing so much in expectations.
TBH, I think leaked material, that is not officially verified is bad for our discourse. It serves more to create confusion, and misinformation.
Pax is right about the distance to that particular sample, 11.62 is fairly large. Though I'm sure, as you said ,we will all have different results when the samples are utilized. This particular calculator will have that happen, since they continuously update with new samples available. However, in regards to those samples from that "Leaked PCA"; we will still need to verify their identities, and the time-frame. I think it is important that we wait and be patient before investing so much in expectations.
TBH, I think leaked material, that is not officially verified is bad for our discourse. It serves more to create confusion, and misinformation.
Agree.
Maybe is also because many Pugliesi, genetically (more or less) are a bridge between Italy, Greece, and the Balkans.
If a calculator doesn’t have samples from Puglia, it gets really confused.
... and many don’t, most of GedMatch included. imo
another perspective:
DnaPortal K36 Ancient:
https://i.imgur.com/5IQx96f.jpg
nMonte:
https://i.imgur.com/x7PMxE4.jpg
Population
Distance
EMA_north-Italian_NW_54
1.197928
CL36_north-Italian
1.237396
CL57_north-Italian
1.330768
SZ28_north-Italian
1.438457
SZ43_north-Italian
1.541763
CL63_Alpine
1.577491
SZ37_Greek-Italian
1.615911
BA_Hungary_BR2
1.63093
We are very different , even though we match very very close in haplogroup
@Torzio you match my CL36 and SZ37, besides my exact Haplogroup.
I think it is based on the YDNA of the samples that match you right? Heres mine
YDNA(30% R1b/19% J/19%E1b/10.8%G) these were the highest percentages of those that matched me. R1a, I1, T were all 5.4% each and I2/E were 2.5 each.
MTDNA was a cluster fudge to go through, but H/H1+H3 are highest
https://i.postimg.cc/KjnXnKXG/h1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/44pj2hMZ/h2.png
Here's mine. I'm not sure what exactly it means but I'm assuming R1B is fairly common for western Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/jceh2za.png
https://i.imgur.com/CS7kXzw.png
Here's mine. I'm not sure what exactly it means but I'm assuming R1B is fairly common for western Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/jceh2za.png
https://i.imgur.com/CS7kXzw.png
My Scottish friend gets mostly the same break down. claims descent from Comyn the Red. He is haplogroup G.
You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)
https://i.imgur.com/oNSKgLU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7pHaPA2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bJZoy7A.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/52EnvRO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OceItgQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kUuEEEj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xvYes6I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/U1b4Hqk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QqCSEGP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/x5f6Lqb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZeljcWo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CHbz2BF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EqJwmPF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7HpJtYP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WPr8NtF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jGNS6CH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/r6LfDq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TjQge3b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JMcsREe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jj56Gua.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zfgkeNx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QaqSwQG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Kc6G9L4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nEfaGqC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BlbI0jZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TmtPnEO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jHVrzAE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OLhQLWU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rzl26ZQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/160e0Wl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/R0Sv6qc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h14sTT9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wwFTIgg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/02FC4Go.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ndV1nJR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Vnn8i0E.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KbLDFPn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8iOOhzt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DAWFZgO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p6p0Nts.jpg
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another perspective:
DnaPortal K36 Ancient:
https://i.imgur.com/5IQx96f.jpg
nMonte:
https://i.imgur.com/x7PMxE4.jpg
Remebering that we are talking about matches with very ancient samples of very ancient peoples or civilizations. We are not talking about matches with modern peoples. In this sense, distances more hight must be tolerated and is this MTA do. For me It’s so clear the warning below of MTA to to all users of the application. I think, IMO, l that the results of Salento are very coerent with his ancestry from Apulia. Of course the existence of more samples from south Italy would be much better, but that does not invalidate the correct bias of Salento's results;)
https://i.imgur.com/9gZFIEf.jpg
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At the moment I have these two coincidences.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TqM0yX71Ix0/XaeoVx_HxCI/AAAAAAAABGI/RNkR7b-WHP8BitwumrgAOB8jJ_rLEVZXQCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/BritNeolithic.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p4-BernsI50/XaeoYXDVL0I/AAAAAAAABGM/MJlyTqKQLekPkv_0j_VPvhyk2UHwmA3WwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BoscomweAmesbury.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lrXheM27OFo/XaenjY6d_HI/AAAAAAAABF8/TGD9fjgTDEcey698e-l2J13Fw2AwkfIhgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/GLADIATORUK.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d60ZMpJ6O9A/XaeoTIRtsiI/AAAAAAAABGE/Jkb4MaVQeWYtV46cy5WIA1znclrKyBYfQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/GLADIATORUK.jpg
Remebering that we are talking about matches with very ancient samples of very ancient peoples or civilizations. We are not talking about matches with modern peoples. In this sense, distances more hight must be tolerated and is this MTA do. For me It’s so clear the warning below of MTA to to all users of the application. I think, IMO, l that the results of Salento are very coerent with his ancestry from Apulia. Of course the existence of more samples from south Italy would be much better, but that does not invalidate the correct bias of Salento's results;)
https://i.imgur.com/9gZFIEf.jpg
I want members to comment and to opine.
After all, that’s why we post results and other stuff.
... and if we are just a little bit more open minded, and interested in listening (LOL), we might learn a thing or two from each other :)
Ancestry - 23 - Combo | Top 2 with distance
SZ36 11.64 - SZ40 11.98
https://i.imgur.com/ZGkBg6i.png
https://i.imgur.com/fylDHGw.jpg
SZ40 11.61 - SZ36 11.78
https://i.imgur.com/jxLxqX4.png
https://i.imgur.com/0kg5WIC.jpg
SZ36 11.62 - SZ40 11.97
https://i.imgur.com/nUN6TRJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/4muJT3h.jpg
Population
Distance
i3759_Celtiberian_IA
1.333519
I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
1.423613
I3759_Celtiberian
1.501593
i3758_Celtiberian_IA
1.550354
BA_Hungary_RISE373
1.567452
I3874_Beaker_South_France
1.608371
I10892_Catalonia_medieval
1.650611
SZ45_Pannonian
1.751551
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SaZH0gaxlIE/XaRmNfwnwpI/AAAAAAAABDY/9ArtluuP3mUhC0chksatbMSx9Cq8zN2UwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/yoruclosetancient.JPEG
Sometimes I wonder what our designs will be in this era where we bump into our elbows in overcrowded cities that we can't or don't want to give up for raising malbas in more unpopulated areas, knowing who we are and dying.
Population
Value
i3759_Celtiberian_IA
37
BA_Hungary_RISE373
5
i3758_Celtiberian_IA
4.4
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
4.2
I3874_Beaker_South_France
2.6
I3759_Celtiberian
2.4
I3578_EMA_Andalusia
2.2
BA_Portugal_TorreVelha_32032
2
EMA_north-Italian_NW_54
1.8
N_Sweden_Gökhem7
1.8
I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
1.4
SZ43_north-Italian
1.4
Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0113
1.2
CHL_Iberia_I1281
1.2
N_Levant_AinGhazal5
1.2
BA_Srubnaya_I0358
1
CHL_Iberia_I1277
1
IA_Wielbark_Kow_55_PL
1
CHL_Iberia_I1303
0.8
CWC_Sweden_RISE97
0.8
EMA_Greek-Balkan_AEH_1
0.8
Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE566
0.6
Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0171
0.6
Bell_Beaker_Germany__RISE560_
0.6
CWC_Germany_I0108
0.6
EMA_Alpine_STR_310
0.6
I1767_Beaker_Britain
0.6
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF18
0.6
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF21
0.6
SZ28_north-Italian
0.6
SZ45_Pannonian
0.6
BA_Unetice_Czechia_RISE577
0.4
CHL_Iberia_ATP16_
0.4
CHL_Iberia_I1274
0.4
CHL_Remedello_IT_RISE486
0.4
CL36_north-Italian
0.4
CL94_Iberian
0.4
DA112_Hallstatt-Bylany_800BC
0.4
EN_Iberia_I0410
0.4
I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton
0.4
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23
0.4
MN_Germany_I0560
0.4
MN_Iberia_I0405
0.4
Niederstotzingen_Alemmani_6
0.4
Amerindian_Chachapoya
0.2
BA_Armenia_RISE407
0.2
BA_Hungary_BR1
0.2
BA_Hungary_RISE484
0.2
BA_Karasuk_RISE492
0.2
BA_Karasuk_RISE499
0.2
BA_Levant_I0867
0.2
BA_Portugal_ERR1524174
0.2
BA_Portugal_MonteGato_104
0.2
BA_Unetice_Germany_I0803
0.2
BA_Unetice_Germany__I0115
0.2
Baiuvarii_Germanic_AED_106
0.2
Baiuvarii_Germanic_AED_249
0.2
Baiuvarii_Germanic_ALH_10
0.2
Baiuvarii_Germanic_BIM_37
0.2
Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_241
0.2
Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE567
0.2
Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0112
0.2
Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0806
0.2
Bell_Beaker_Germany_RISE563_
0.2
C1_Nepal_Chokhopani_2700BP
0.2
CHL_Armenia_I1409
0.2
CHL_Iberia_1280
0.2
CHL_Iberia_I1314
0.2
CHL_Iran_I1674
0.2
CHL_Yamnaya_Samara_I0444
0.2
CL151_Longobard
0.2
CL23_north-Italian
0.2
CL31_Greek_Balkan
0.2
CL83_Celto-Longobard
0.2
CL87_Longobard
0.2
CWC_Denmark_RISE61
0.2
CWC_Germany_I0104
0.2
CWC_Germany_I0111
0.2
DA111_Hallstatt-Bylany|_800BC
0.2
DA119_Germanic_chieftain_Poprad
0.2
DA222_Karluk
0.2
DA_205_Kazakhstan_Karakhanid
0.2
EBA_Russia_RISE555
0.2
EMA_Balkan_AED_1135
0.2
EMA_Hinxton2_Anglosaxon
0.2
EMA_Hinxton3_Anglosaxon
0.2
EMA_Hinxton5_Anglosaxon
0.2
EN_Ballinahatty_Ireland_
0.2
EN_Iberia_I0409
0.2
EN_Iberia_I0411_I041
0.2
I10851_medieval_Catalonia
0.2
I2298_published_Tanzania_Pemba_600BP
0.2
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF3
0.2
IA_Sarmatian_PR9_I0574_Pokrovka
0.2
IA_Scythian_I0247b
0.2
IA_Wielbark_Kow_22_PL
0.2
IA_Wielbark_Kow_45_PL
0.2
LBA_Armenia_RISE397
0.2
MA2198_Anatolia_IA
0.2
MBA_ATP2_Iberia
0.2
MBA_ATP9_Iberia
0.2
MBA_Armenia_RISE416
0.2
MBA_Armenia_RISE423
0.2
N_Hungary_CO1
0.2
Natufian__1072
0.2
Niederstotzingen_Alemmani_9
0.2
SZ15_Longobard
0.2
SZ1_Greek-Balkan
0.2
SZ30_Celtic
0.2
SZ3_Longobard
0.2
TAF009_Iberomaurasian
0.2
Visigoth_I12163
0.2
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