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Jovialis
16-11-19, 14:25
Here is what I get for the Iron age samples:

https://i.imgur.com/1HIo8hf.png

Jovialis
16-11-19, 14:47
https://i.imgur.com/YK2MOfl.png

Angela
16-11-19, 16:12
So, based on what we see here, Protovillanovan looks to have arrived by way of the western Balkans, or both Italy and the western Balkans were impacted by the same group, perhaps Hungarian Bronze Age related?

Some Bell Beaker in there as well, perhaps more in the Etruscans?

All of that is still fuzzy to me.

We really, really need Bronze Age samples from northern Italy.

@Salento,
Very strange how they crowd up the maps with duplicates of the same samples.

Salento
16-11-19, 17:08
Here is what I get for the Iron age samples:
https://i.imgur.com/1HIo8hf.png

My Iron Age:
https://i.imgur.com/RpaKZBn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EFSBxSH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/elzszdi.jpg

Salento
16-11-19, 17:24
My Archaeogenetic Map of Ancient Rome

https://i.imgur.com/gOpNgbW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/u6QzUst.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jbpt9Lf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OoR8SJ4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/G0boFEU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SaBcDGN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/81FFIyp.jpg

Salento
16-11-19, 17:50
So, based on what we see here, Protovillanovan looks to have arrived by way of the western Balkans, or both Italy and the western Balkans were impacted by the same group, perhaps Hungarian Bronze Age related?
Some Bell Beaker in there as well, perhaps more in the Etruscans?
All of that is still fuzzy to me.
We really, really need Bronze Age samples from northern Italy.
@Salento,
Very strange how they crowd up the maps with duplicates of the same samples.

I noticed that my duplicates are also Deep-Dive matches.

I don’t get any duplicates of the latest Romans on older uploads.

I often re-upload the r-data when MTA adds new samples or features.

Deep Dives only get updated by re-loading the r-data :)

Old upload:
https://i.imgur.com/6iS9jaa.jpg

New upload:
https://i.imgur.com/u6QzUst.jpg

Carlos
16-11-19, 18:13
Bronze age
The order is random as I found the images, since replicas with such large quotas make the work difficult of pics selection.

It is very likely that you have obtained segments of the new samples. The penultimate time with Prenestini happened when I deleted and reloaded the file, but then I lose other old segments like Bell Beaker and it can't be, they should solve this for a better understanding of the whole.

Carlos
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e5ZEF7njdCI/Xc9nEHo5-uI/AAAAAAAABZ0/KF5W3NV59w4tXyrsjlsxiQIblADV8lwHACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ItalyBRONZEage.JPEG
Angela
https://i.imgur.com/SJpF8cL.png
Jovialis
https://i.imgur.com/9y3nTMq.png
Duarte
https://i.imgur.com/QBOHGv1.png
Salento
https://i.imgur.com/gOpNgbW.jpg

Salento
16-11-19, 18:37
@Carlos when we refresh or re-upload, we often gain or lose some samples, sometimes even after 1 hour or so.

old Kit refreshed: Bronze
https://i.imgur.com/2zQuhhz.jpg

new Kit re-upload: Bronze
https://i.imgur.com/gOpNgbW.jpg

Angela
16-11-19, 18:42
@Carlos when we re-upload, we often gain or lose some samples:

old Bronze
https://i.imgur.com/2zQuhhz.jpg

new Bronze
https://i.imgur.com/gOpNgbW.jpg

Salento, to reupload do you have to use up another "kit" of the, what, 10 we got?

Angela
16-11-19, 18:52
Ok. These are all the new samples from the Antonio et al paper for which I get hits.

I bolded the Imperial Roman samples and checked those scores against my husband's.

3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 6.017 - R60 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.294 - R107 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

My husband gets 14.11

9. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 9.778 - R835 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users
My husband gets 15.78

14. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.45 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)

18. Imperial Rome San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 10.85 - R117 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users
My husband gets 11.59

19. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 10.87 - R59 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

34. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 13.64 - R1283 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

32. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 13.0 - R51 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 98% match vs all users
My husband gets 11.28

33. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 13.49 - R47 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 98% match vs all users
My husband gets 13.64

38. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 14.03 - R111 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 98% match vs all users

40. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 14.17 - R114 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 94% match vs all users

My husband gets 5.98

41. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 14.21 - LSD021 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 98% match vs all users

44. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 14.66 - R58 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 96% match vs all users

51. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 15.14 - R836 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

So, we do share a few, and the distances aren't that different, except for one hit for Via Paisiello, where he gets a very close hit.

I'm going to refresh my recollection of the cemeteries and the individual samples for some patterns.

This program is turning out to be very helpful.

Salento
16-11-19, 18:53
Salento, to reupload do you have to use up another "kit" of the, what, 10 we got?

Yes, if you go over the limit, just delete an older outdated Kit.

Carlos
16-11-19, 21:57
I did it and there were results of the latest samples added.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cXmG7Y3ldVQ/XdBTC9iGD5I/AAAAAAAABas/CEaGU9o54MEx_9B9IAz7JdhJdzmGlfYYACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANVillanovanEtruscanR1015.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1oVAfX698GY/XdBR47ZOYiI/AAAAAAAABaE/b45E6fkYEMUr8f2VHYZh_w3IRY_llbWJQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANCivitavecchiaR473.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZXRqCgUMka8/XdBR_R5N6_I/AAAAAAAABaI/ZXptczTU9IAgTqCTeGeGQq-5Q-74CxE2QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANCIVITAVECCHIAR474.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5AaL4aES72c/XdBSp_4nJ8I/AAAAAAAABag/S3uIxVEBdB0TSbU0N6-y28gKghvbD3NJACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANtribeInlandBER1021.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sKJB7CReLlo/XdBSiGvSlGI/AAAAAAAABaY/4zjL1Cbx9hI0cqQB9YwqVU-aPcbURpifwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANLatinPrenestiniTribeInlandR435.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iXCHRoVtQ0A/XdBSYSn-yXI/AAAAAAAABaU/5CZ0ugldwREo-f9szV6eYXlt2OdgaZ06ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANCeltoIBERIANOutlierROMER116.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oVa8ixoCVzs/XdBS7JjMv0I/AAAAAAAABao/ZNcTotBHKGI2plXIwKuXqghdq6mPYGdpwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/EtruscanVillaMagnaR63.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wvW7NXZMaJU/XdBtYoNLahI/AAAAAAAABa8/tIOK4LPTJkweFjMsrsGQyuGGKGHnFMrJACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANlateMedievalCancelleriaBASILICAR1289.JPEG

Salento
16-11-19, 23:17
reload: (R850 - Latin Tribe - Iron Age - Carusu) 100% Closer ... :thinking:

https://i.imgur.com/nxB3LzM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/u6QzUst.jpg

Carlos
17-11-19, 00:19
I get 100x100 compared to other users with Prenestini

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sKJB7CReLlo/XdBSiGvSlGI/AAAAAAAABaY/4zjL1Cbx9hI0cqQB9YwqVU-aPcbURpifwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANLatinPrenestiniTribeInlandR435.JPEG

Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) (4.092)
Roman Era Girona (80 AD) (4.845)
Carolingian (790 AD) (5.824)
Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) (5.831)
Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) (6.001)

1. Spanish_Cantabria (15.10)
2. Southwest_French (16.65)
3. Spanish_Aragon (16.80)
4. Spanish_Cataluna (17.32)
5. Spanish_Basque (17.60)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (17.80)
7. French_Basque (17.81)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (18.04)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-99vinXnQejU/XdB0zc2TsSI/AAAAAAAABbI/aGEUF8VGtSgyoiP0mhBZqB3KaFJdFqGbACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PCAprenestiniR435.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ajdwvAxAHG4/XdB04uY7UUI/AAAAAAAABbM/VPS-qLVa4P87fweE7MTG-hKDNYdevZR6ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PCAprenestiniR435modern.JPEG

Duarte
17-11-19, 00:36
reload: (R850 - Latin Tribe - Iron Age - Carusu) 100% Closer ... :thinking:

https://i.imgur.com/nxB3LzM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/u6QzUst.jpg

Carusu in action:

https://i.imgur.com/ptOTfW5.jpg

Salento
17-11-19, 03:10
Carusu in action:

https://i.imgur.com/ptOTfW5.jpg

Good job Duarte, big sword,

for a moment I saw Neymar turning into Carusu :)

Jovialis
17-11-19, 03:27
@Salento

Here is a sample that we get exclusively; at least based on surveying the results in the thread:

28. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/wp9IRQR.png

Jovialis
17-11-19, 03:41
@Salento

Here is a sample that we get exclusively; at least based on surveying the results in the thread:

28. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/wp9IRQR.png

https://i.imgur.com/JiMK0Ac.png

Angela
17-11-19, 04:26
I didn't paste all of my husband's matches. He gets that sample too, although at a slightly bigger distance, so that makes three of you. :)

49. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 17.02 - R437 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
95
% match vs all users

I re-uploaded my ancestry dna data. (Thanks for the tip, Salento) I can understand why these new samples didn't show up on the old runs, but why did I lose all that sharing with Scythian Moldova? Odd.

You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)Info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

Protovillanovia Martinsicuro


930 BC


R1





mtDNA: U5a2b
Total cM=63.76
Largest segment=48.54 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 94) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 8

15.22 cM










Chr. 16

48.54 cM









Medieval Cancelleria Basilica


860 AD


R1283





mtDNA: H12Y-DNA: J-M12
Total cM=12.77
Largest segment=12.77 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 56) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 20

12.77 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle


200 AD


R51





mtDNA: U3b1
Total cM=24.07
Largest segment=11.4 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 54) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 6

7.23 cM










Chr. 15

5.43 cM










Chr. 20

11.4 cM









Medieval Iberian


670 AD


CL23





mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
Total cM=9.59
Largest segment=9.59 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
20
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 20

9.59 cM









Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi


500 AD


R107





mtDNA: T2hY-DNA: E-V13
Total cM=9.09
Largest segment=9.09 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 69) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 6

9.09 cM









Illyrian / Dalmatian


1600 BC


I4331





mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
Total cM=9.08
Largest segment=9.08 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
8
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 19

9.08 cM









Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello


100 AD


R114





mtDNA: U1b1
Total cM=14.16
Largest segment=8.43 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 61) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 6

8.43 cM










Chr. 13

5.73 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle


282 AD


R47





mtDNA: J1c1cY-DNA: G-M406
Total cM=13.22
Largest segment=7.81 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 60) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 1

5.4 cM










Chr. 6

7.81 cM









Medieval Villa Magna Italy


905 AD


R60





mtDNA: T2c1
Total cM=7.39
Largest segment=7.39 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 77) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 15

7.39 cM









Medieval Villa Magna Italy


1100 AD


R58





mtDNA: H1c3Y-DNA: R-Z306
Total cM=5.6
Largest segment=5.6 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 70) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 1

5.6 cM









Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP


100 AD


R111





mtDNA: HY-DNA: R-PF7589
Total cM=5.33
Largest segment=5.33 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 38) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 6

5.33 cM









Central Roman


670 AD


CL121





mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R1b
Total cM=10.65
Largest segment=5.14 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
71
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

1.75 cM










Chr. 10

3.75 cM










Chr. 19

5.14 cM









Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese


670 AD


CL30





mtDNA: I1bY-DNA: R1b
Total cM=3.74
Largest segment=3.74 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
15
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

3.74 cM









Scythian Southern Moldova


290 BC


scy300





mtDNA: H5
Total cM=2.76
Largest segment=2.76 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is
16
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

2.76 cM









Scythian Moldova


290 BC


scy311





mtDNA: T2b
Total cM=5.11
Largest segment=2.57 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
62
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

2.54 cM










Chr. 5

2.57 cM









Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate


1050 AD


I12515





mtDNA: H3Y-DNA: J2a
Total cM=2.54
Largest segment=2.54 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 31) - Your raw DNA is
59
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

2.54 cM









Central Roman / Mixed


590 AD


SZ19





mtDNA: HV9c
Total cM=5.91
Largest segment=2.24 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
74
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

2.24 cM










Chr. 17

3.67 cM













Scythian Southern Moldova


270 BC


scy192





mtDNA: H8c
Total cM=2.07
Largest segment=2.07 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
11
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

2.07 cM









Central Roman


590 AD


SZ32





mtDNA: H74 ?
Total cM=1.86
Largest segment=1.86 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
5
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

1.86 cM









Hellenic Roman / Cretan


670 AD


CL38





mtDNA: X2Y-DNA: E1b
Total cM=1.79
Largest segment=1.79 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
33
% closer than other matching users


Chr. 22

1.79 cM










I keep having to remind myself that sharing some IBD doesn't necessarily equate to overall similarity. A lot of these are a pretty far genetic distance for me, although not the Protovillanovan.

Ed. Wait. That Latin Prenestini sample 437 shows up on my map but not on my list of ancient samples. Why?

Carlos
17-11-19, 04:37
Someone can get a map but of current Italy with the marks of where these sites are, Prenestini, Ardea, e.t.c. and Rome to have a visualization of the area and distance but on a current political map. I need to have that vision of the old with the modern or the modern to see it more clearly.


/Angela download the "PicPick"/

cM 121.15

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1oVAfX698GY/XdBR47ZOYiI/AAAAAAAABaE/b45E6fkYEMUr8f2VHYZh_w3IRY_llbWJQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ETRUSCANCivitavecchiaR473.JPEG

I just learned that the Etruscans criticized us a lot out there. But you know one thing: We didn't care lol

Salento
17-11-19, 05:05
https://i.imgur.com/JiMK0Ac.png
R437 Latin Prenestini Tribe 300 BC is my 3rd highest segment sharing on Deep Dive.

I speculate that he’s a kind of “Ancestral Father” :) and many of my Roman matches get a piece of him.

I lowered the Deep Dive map setting to my R437 values (min cm 29):
https://i.imgur.com/JSZ0wyM.jpg

Zoom Default setting:
https://i.imgur.com/IPEzE2p.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8RotnRJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nQV8E9t.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Jbpt9Lf.jpg

Jovialis
17-11-19, 05:28
Based on my observations of the results in the thread,

North Italians have an affinity to Proto-Villanovans

Iberians have an affinity to Etruscans, and the Latin samples that are similar to Etruscans.

South Italians have an affinity to the "Southern" Latin Samples

With Ardea Latini having an affinity to all three, but closest to South Italians.

:thinking:

Salento
17-11-19, 06:14
R1 Villanova Bronze Age Top 20 Ancient Matches:
https://i.imgur.com/JebynMN.jpg


R437 Latin Roman Republic Top 20 Ancient Matches:
https://i.imgur.com/Pw61wcD.jpg

Angela
17-11-19, 15:18
No, guys, I mean that Prenestini shows up on my Republic Era map, and Etruscan Civitavechhia on my Iron Age map along with one of the Ardea samples, but neither shows up on my list of ancient samples.

Odd, yes?

Could it possibly be because my 60th match is 15.63, and these were higher, or is there another explanation?

https://i.imgur.com/eoBExXy.png

https://i.imgur.com/DnbeHO0.png
https://i.imgur.com/jokmc06.pngVery cool graphic, Salento. :

Duarte
17-11-19, 15:58
https://i.imgur.com/QBOHGv1.png

https://i.imgur.com/wNUIE0G.png
https://i.imgur.com/uS4C1QH.png
https://i.imgur.com/pdmN0PC.png
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.55 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 95% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/Q7vG92C.png
https://i.imgur.com/w7CQelF.png
https://i.imgur.com/GSHES7T.png

https://i.imgur.com/n4zev3T.png
Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 15.3 - R1021 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users
Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.98 - R851 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users
Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.3 - R1016 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 99% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/j39iTdM.png
Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 17.47 - R435 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 98% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/MiCzrGJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/pJmT7ME.png
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.29 - R111 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.95 - R116 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 89% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/7mBolrz.png

https://i.imgur.com/J7I2HFo.png
https://i.imgur.com/9k9fxjC.png
https://i.imgur.com/oZJiWRf.png
https://i.imgur.com/edF8aJ7.png
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 96% match vs all users
Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 68% match vs all users
Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 88% match vs all users
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 47% match vs all users
North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 42% match vs all users
Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 40% match vs all users
Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 44% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/Na5XXhG.png
https://i.imgur.com/lQ6yIXV.png
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 12.69 - R1287 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.8 - R1283 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py)
Top 95% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/QUeOdKA.png

Carlos
17-11-19, 17:16
After and before Rome. An increase of R1a and J is observed. In mitochondrial increase in K, H and U

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kKIgQfmO4u0/XcgpNjkw5sI/AAAAAAAABSg/86EKFw_v_jIeDgTI9jFAVPE09J6qmW6vwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutnweY.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3H1PY5lM0Dc/XcgpKVD-EQI/AAAAAAAABSc/0X9ougnAoo053z-v6zRfcOdgsC1g_rVJgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/YDNDISTRIBUTION.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ta9lfaCGLAQ/XcgpaGenxfI/AAAAAAAABSo/uWyhdpICgtQh6QcLZ84vYUNeAAY7OVh5QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutonewmtDNA.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4YDWu65gq2Q/XcgpUQxrbII/AAAAAAAABSk/plrVQcsOaikKotcfh3jPwE3yfD48ghl1QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Image%2B2.jpg

Jovialis
17-11-19, 19:01
No, guys, I mean that Prenestini shows up on my Republic Era map, and Etruscan Civitavechhia on my Iron Age map along with one of the Ardea samples, but neither shows up on my list of ancient samples.

Odd, yes?

Could it possibly be because my 60th match is 15.63, and these were higher, or is there another explanation?

https://i.imgur.com/eoBExXy.png

https://i.imgur.com/DnbeHO0.png
https://i.imgur.com/jokmc06.pngVery cool graphic, Salento. :

I think that is exactly the reason.

mha
17-11-19, 19:03
Personally, I take them with a big grain of salt. Scythian Moldova is a good example. I sincerely doubt he is a full "Scythian". For me to get a 25.4 cm. "match", I bet the person had a whole bunch of Southeastern Balkan type farmer. Also, with that large cM "match", why is the genetic distance so much greater than with some other samples? I do realize they're measuring different things, but it's just odd, and someone unfamiliar with all this might get confused.

It apears that many Scythian samples are Gelonians ... combinations of Greeks and Finnic Budinis.

11586

11585

Salento
17-11-19, 19:19
My family portrait values are unchanged:

https://i.imgur.com/HzRpZhx.jpg

Top 10 (# 3 and 4 were my # 1 and 2):
https://i.imgur.com/6qszX7X.jpg

@Angela thanks, ... the R1 and R437 PCA images are snapshots of MTA 3-D Sample Analysis PCA :)

Carlos
17-11-19, 19:30
It apears that many Scythian samples are Gelonians ... combinations of Greeks and Finnic Budinis.

11586

11585

Now I understand why sometimes I get Eskimo

PaschalisB
17-11-19, 19:41
My results have changed a lot, so I'm posting my new top 10 matches:

1. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) .... 10.14
Top 98% match vs all users


2. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 11.11
Top 98% match vs all users


3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71
Top 96% match vs all users


4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.26
Top 97% m atch vs all users


5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.67
Top 96% match vs all users


6. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.25
Top 95% match vs all users


7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 13.35
Top 96% match vs all users


8. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 13.67
Top 99% match vs all users


9. Medieval Winchester Chapel Leper (1085 AD) ..... 13.78
Top 96% match vs all users


10. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.96
Top 95% match vs all users

Where did this Medieval Winchester Chapel come from???

tuț
17-11-19, 23:52
mha,

"to get a 25.4 cm. "match", I bet the person had a whole bunch of Southeastern Balkan type farmer"
25 centimeters are not too many but really they correspond to the Balkan farmers. :smile:

Angela
18-11-19, 03:11
My results have changed a lot, so I'm posting my new top 10 matches:

1. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) .... 10.14
Top 98% match vs all users


2. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 11.11
Top 98% match vs all users


3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71
Top 96% match vs all users


4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.26
Top 97% m atch vs all users


5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.67
Top 96% match vs all users


6. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.25
Top 95% match vs all users


7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 13.35
Top 96% match vs all users


8. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 13.67
Top 99% match vs all users


9. Medieval Winchester Chapel Leper (1085 AD) ..... 13.78
Top 96% match vs all users


10. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.96
Top 95% match vs all users

Where did this Medieval Winchester Chapel come from???

If it isn't too much trouble, and if you have the time, could you add the sample numbers? :)

Salento
18-11-19, 03:15
R114 my Top Match and Top shared DNA Segments:
🤔 a Calabrese gets R114 as Top match too, hope he married well :grin: (I know he did :)

https://i.imgur.com/F7bS60B.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T8a8xPF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kIVJIcr.jpg

Pax Augusta
18-11-19, 03:46
Someone can get a map but of current Italy with the marks of where these sites are, Prenestini, Ardea, e.t.c. and Rome to have a visualization of the area and distance but on a current political map. I need to have that vision of the old with the modern or the modern to see it more clearly.

I hope I haven't forgotten anything.

Prenestini = Praeneste = modern-day Palestrina.

https://i.imgur.com/78Qco8C.jpg

Angela
18-11-19, 04:15
After and before Rome. An increase of R1a and J is observed. In mitochondrial increase in K, H and U

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kKIgQfmO4u0/XcgpNjkw5sI/AAAAAAAABSg/86EKFw_v_jIeDgTI9jFAVPE09J6qmW6vwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutnweY.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3H1PY5lM0Dc/XcgpKVD-EQI/AAAAAAAABSc/0X9ougnAoo053z-v6zRfcOdgsC1g_rVJgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/YDNDISTRIBUTION.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ta9lfaCGLAQ/XcgpaGenxfI/AAAAAAAABSo/uWyhdpICgtQh6QcLZ84vYUNeAAY7OVh5QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutonewmtDNA.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4YDWu65gq2Q/XcgpUQxrbII/AAAAAAAABSk/plrVQcsOaikKotcfh3jPwE3yfD48ghl1QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Image%2B2.jpg

I don't think that R1a is "Slavic" R1a.

Carlos
18-11-19, 04:20
^^
To Pax Augusta

I have downloaded the image

Thank you very much, it's just what I needed to see. I would also like the same image but with the whole boot like this I get a perspective from afar.

I take the post to see two Etruscan samples of mine and see that there is one that coincides twice with Carthage 473

7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (8.192)

24. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 13.64 - R473
Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) (8.651)
Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) (9.162)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (9.165)
Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) (9.525)
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (10.11)

11. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 11.72 - R63
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.456)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.673)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (7.311)

This sample R63 gathers all my main matches. Things are floating in my head, for myself I can't see things quickly and clearly.

Carlos
18-11-19, 04:24
I don't think that R1a is "Slavic" R1a.

No idea, I was waiting to see where R1a came from on the Europedia charts because I didn't remember it, but I forgot to look at it because I had been hearing for a decade or more just talking about the haplogroup lineages that now interested me most in the cocktail.

I just searched it on wikipedia and there are different theories. I would not be surprised if it could be from Pakistan, India after a long journey to get here. I would bet on this hypothesis today.

I just searched it on wikipedia and there are different hypotheses. Well, today I would bet on India-Pakistan recharged on a long trip could be: Iran Caucasus or vice versa, now I do not have time to look at the map which goes before and well it would reach Europe and there already, then to distribute.

torzio
18-11-19, 08:15
my new matches up to 10.0

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users

7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users


I3313 is a Liburnian as per the official paper and not a Dalmatian

torzio
18-11-19, 08:59
my wife's new data

1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.715 - I4332 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.715 - I5769 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 8.97 - DA199 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 10.04 - SZ18 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 95% match vs all users

PaschalisB
18-11-19, 09:44
If it isn't too much trouble, and if you have the time, could you add the sample numbers? :)
Where can I find them?

Angela
18-11-19, 13:19
R1 Villanova Bronze Age Top 20 Ancient Matches:
https://i.imgur.com/JebynMN.jpg


R437 Latin Roman Republic Top 20 Ancient Matches:
https://i.imgur.com/Pw61wcD.jpg

I looked at this graphic again. The Proto-Villanovan is the connection for me. All of my highest matches are on there circling that one Bronze Age sample.

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.568 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 4.975 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 6.017 - R60 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.029 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.294 - R107 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

Amazing, really. These samples, Scythian, Illyrian, the "Roman" like Szolad samples, the late Piemontese sample from around Collegno, all share ancestry from the sample, or all related to it, and they're all my highest matches.

Pax Augusta
18-11-19, 14:13
R1 Villanova Bronze Age Top 20 Ancient Matches:


Proto-Villanovan, Villanovan is another thing despite the name.

Carlos
18-11-19, 14:46
Carlos Papers

7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474

Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (8.192)

13. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556

Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) (3.909)
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (4.158)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (4.435)
Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) (5.423)
Roman Era Girona (80 AD) (5.838)

45. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287

Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (7.069)
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.414)
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (7.529)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.939)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (8.405)

100. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111

Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (7.052)
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.058)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (8.405)
Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) (8.707)
Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) (9.505)

77. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457

Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (8.919)
Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) (9.024)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (9.505)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (9.525)
Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (9.777)

-------------------------

1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034

Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)

Finally who was the winner?

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zrc56tVJ_7E/XbGZfCxD22I/AAAAAAAABK4/WG6SVKt-BoQYR1OdpM2eLyutdRGEN4_jgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/JakySpartacus7.jpg

Jackie's Revenge

Duarte
18-11-19, 17:08
Carlos Papers

7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474

Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (8.192)

13. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556

Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) (3.909)
Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (4.158)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (4.435)
Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) (5.423)
Roman Era Girona (80 AD) (5.838)

45. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287

Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (7.069)
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.414)
Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (7.529)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.939)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (8.405)

100. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111

Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (7.052)
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.058)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) (8.405)
Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) (8.707)
Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) (9.505)

77. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457

Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) (8.919)
Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) (9.024)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (9.505)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (9.525)
Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (9.777)

-------------------------

1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034

Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)

Finally who was the winner?

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zrc56tVJ_7E/XbGZfCxD22I/AAAAAAAABK4/WG6SVKt-BoQYR1OdpM2eLyutdRGEN4_jgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/JakySpartacus7.jpg

Jackie's Revenge



Between Iberians and Italics, I believe they were all saved, for the happiness of the modern world. In my specific case, among some matches with Iberians, I put all my matches with the Italics and I think that the Iberians won, led by the Roman soldier FN_2. All my honors to the brave and unbreakable Italic warriors:

1. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 6.899 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.629 - CL94 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.859 - I12034 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


5. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 9.948 - I3585 - (Click for more info)
Top 98 % match vs all users


6. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.04 - I12514 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users


7. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.34 - I12516 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


11. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 10.87 - R63 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


12. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 11.0 - I4331 - (Click for more info)
Top 97 % match vs all users


13. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 11.05 - DA198 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


17. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.55 - I3313 - (Click for more info) Top 95 % match vs all users


18. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 11.64 - I10866 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users


24. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) Top 96 % match vs all users


25. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.39 - I4332 - (Click for more info) Top 96 % match vs all users


29. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 12.69 - R1287 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users


31. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 12.87 - R473 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users


33. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 13.03 - I3499 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users


34. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 13.12 - R1015 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


44. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 14.38 - CL47b (Click for more info) Top 67 % match vs all users


45. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.49 - CL57 - (Click for more info) Top 86 % match vs all users


48. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 14.82 - CL23 - (Click for more info)
Top 95 % match vs all users


52. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 15.3 - R1021 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


53. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.37 - R1 - (Click for more info) Top 91 % match vs all users


63. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 - (Click for more info) Top 68 % match vs all users


67. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) Top 88 % match vs all users


69. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.95 - R116 - (Click for more info) Top 89 % match vs all users


71. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 - ? (Click for more info) Top 47 % match vs all users


74. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 17.47 - R435 - (Click for more info)
Top 98 % match vs all users


75. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 17.54 - R1289 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users


79. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.8 - R1283 - (Click for more info) Top 95 % match vs all users


82. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.98 - R851 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


83. Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.3 - R1016 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


84. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 - ? (Click for more info) Top 42 % match vs all users


91. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 - ? (Click for more info) Top 40 % match vs all users


99. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 - (Click for more info) Top 44 % match vs all users

Angela
18-11-19, 17:37
Between Iberians and Italics, I believe they were all saved, for the happiness of the modern world. In my specific case, among some matches with Iberians, I put all my matches with the Italics and I think that the Iberians won, led by the Roman soldier FN_2. All my honors to the brave and unbreakable Italic warriors:

1. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 6.899 - FN_2 (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.629 - CL94 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.859 - I12034 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


5. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 9.948 - I3585 - (Click for more info)
Top 98 % match vs all users


6. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.04 - I12514 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users


7. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.34 - I12516 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


11. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 10.87 - R63 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


12. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 11.0 - I4331 - (Click for more info)
Top 97 % match vs all users


13. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 11.05 - DA198 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


17. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.55 - I3313 - (Click for more info) Top 95 % match vs all users


18. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 11.64 - I10866 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users


24. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.34 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) Top 96 % match vs all users


25. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.39 - I4332 - (Click for more info) Top 96 % match vs all users


29. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 12.69 - R1287 - (Click for more info) Top 97 % match vs all users


31. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 12.87 - R473 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users


33. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 13.03 - I3499 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users


34. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 13.12 - R1015 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


44. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 14.38 - CL47b (Click for more info) Top 67 % match vs all users


45. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.49 - CL57 - (Click for more info) Top 86 % match vs all users


48. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 14.82 - CL23 - (Click for more info)
Top 95 % match vs all users


52. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 15.3 - R1021 - (Click for more info)
Top 99 % match vs all users


53. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.37 - R1 - (Click for more info) Top 91 % match vs all users


63. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.59 - SZ45 - (Click for more info) Top 68 % match vs all users


67. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.93 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) Top 88 % match vs all users


69. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 16.95 - R116 - (Click for more info) Top 89 % match vs all users


71. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.24 - CL47 - ? (Click for more info) Top 47 % match vs all users


74. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 17.47 - R435 - (Click for more info)
Top 98 % match vs all users


75. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 17.54 - R1289 - (Click for more info) Top 98 % match vs all users


79. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.8 - R1283 - (Click for more info) Top 95 % match vs all users


82. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.98 - R851 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


83. Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.3 - R1016 - (Click for more info) Top 99 % match vs all users


84. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.48 - CL63 - ? (Click for more info) Top 42 % match vs all users


91. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 18.85 - CL102 - ? (Click for more info) Top 40 % match vs all users


99. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.29 - SZ18 - (Click for more info) Top 44 % match vs all users

Thank-you, cousin. :)

tuț
18-11-19, 19:02
Two of the first three ancient remains of which I am most related according to these calculators, also had the same mtDNA haplogroup with my father. This is an extraordinary coincidence!

tuț
18-11-19, 19:16
And vim_2 is only at 300km from my current location. :thinking: This coincidence makes me think that this... fun game may have a basis in reality. :grin:

Carlos
18-11-19, 20:04
Let's get on the ground, it is important to know what you are talking about. Observe all the details from the names that have been given to the streets to the maritime traffic as a way of having a broader vision through the past-present time and vice versa.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ADSzS2NRnXU/XdLZ2ziYh4I/AAAAAAAABdM/ixGv-xVJdxEDe58P53ATy72ct3fyDepYwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapeCivitavechiaF%25C3%258DSICO.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8lpQPaDaS8U/XdLZbChrr8I/AAAAAAAABc0/GAqtNVwgBEAQ4UyymugxSNHvusOH7q0RACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapaETRURIA.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ilhnxfpwPog/XdLZfHGeT4I/AAAAAAAABc4/hbQqY2EwA4k8fKvyRYSAqIwRu_EXbbTHwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapaETRURIACIUDADESestado.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OrwTEO4puRM/XdLZxwoom2I/AAAAAAAABdI/CDcSAXjwSGc7rFvALAyUTaSo6kT7h3-RACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapeCivitavechiaCERCA.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9bPf2p7RQ2Q/XdLZ7gq3M0I/AAAAAAAABdU/MNBDsy5PR_U5agxfrj3gAx34YQ1bZriWACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapeCivitavechiaMASCERCA.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7ni3AOEuoGE/XdLaJ2kwc9I/AAAAAAAABdg/LO9PXlidKpwKhyH03R7Pr9oh4RzwsNFqgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapeCivitavechiaPUERTO.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZaI86srq214/XdLaAl9LT3I/AAAAAAAABdY/qq8rT7fxCnkZ4htE-_pKNUe_I9A26OIvACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapeCivitavechiaPRIMERPlano.JPEG

Watching ... Processing

Duarte
18-11-19, 20:44
Thank-you, cousin. :)
Sure thing, dear cousin ;)

Salento
18-11-19, 21:11
my new matches up to 10.0
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
3. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 99% match vs all users
4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top 98% match vs all users
I3313 is a Liburnian as per the official paper and not a Dalmatian

Even now, I still don't get anything under 10

:thinking: I’m at the edge, maybe I’m not Southern Italian and Greek/Balkan enough, and I’m not Center-North Italian enough, causing higher distances, but I do get a good amount of Roman samples and share segments.

That's also one more reason (of many) why at AncestryDNA Salento is in Limbo.

https://i.imgur.com/T8a8xPF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uA2U8dm.jpg

LivDna / Partial Free
https://i.imgur.com/uWjmWLv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w2uqO4K.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ksd7CKM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kIVJIcr.jpg

Salento
18-11-19, 21:28
My ID :grin: :

https://i.imgur.com/ROOqQlN.jpg

torzio
18-11-19, 22:00
Even now, I still don't get anything under 10

:thinking: maybe I’m not Southern Italian and Greek/Balkan enough, and I’m not Center-North Italian enough, causing higher distances, but I do get a good amount of Roman samples and share segments.

That's also one more reason (of many) why at AncestryDNA Salento is in Limbo.

https://i.imgur.com/T8a8xPF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uA2U8dm.jpg

LivDna / Partial Free
https://i.imgur.com/uWjmWLv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w2uqO4K.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ksd7CKM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kIVJIcr.jpg

that is strange

i get a big 2 point gap between first and second

Salento
18-11-19, 22:06
that is strange

i get a big 2 point gap between first and second

my top 20 differences are minimals.

I’m probably at the edge of South, East, Center-North Ancestries.

torzio
18-11-19, 22:30
sample R1
R1 listed as belonging to the Proto-VIllanovan culture, dated 930 - 839 calBCE. She has 2nd highest degree of Steppe ancestry in Iron age samples and mtDNA U5a2b.

anyone else got any more info about sample R1

.........................................

A Proto-Villanovan female from Martinsicuro in the Abruzzo coast (ca. 890 BC), of mtDNA hg. U5a2b, is the earliest mainland sample available showing foreign (i.e. not exclusively Anatolia_N ± WHG) ancestry:

Martinsicuro is a coastal site located on the border of Le Marche and Abruzzo on central Italy’s Adriatic coast. It is a proto-Villanovan village, situated on a hill above the Tronto river, dating to the late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age (…) finds from the site indicate an affinity with contemporaries in the Balkans, suggesting direct trade contacts and interaction across the Adriatic. In particular, the practice of decorating ceramics with bronze elements was shared between the Nin region in Croatia and Picene region of Italy, including Martinsicuro.

from others
The sample clusters close to the Early Iron Age sample from Jazinka (ca. 780 BC), from the central Dalmatian onomastic region, on the east Adriatic coast opposite to Abruzzo, possibly related to the south-east Dalmatian onomastic region to the south. However, there is no clear boundary between hydrotoponymic regions for the Bronze Age, and it is quite close to the (possibly Venetic-related) Liburnian onomastic region to the north, so the accounts of Martinsicuro belonging to the Liburni in proto-historical times can probably be extrapolated to the Final Bronze Age.

NOTE. Based on feminine endings in -ona in the few available anthroponyms, Liburnian may have shared similarities with personal names of the Noricum province, which doesn’t seem to be related to the more recent (Celtic- or Germanic-related?) Noric language. On the other hand, anthroponyms are known to show the most recent hydrotoponymic layer of a region, so these personal names might be unrelated to the ancestral language behind place and river names.

torzio
18-11-19, 22:42
my top 20 differences are minimals.

I’m probably at the edge of South, East, Center-North Ancestries.

maybe you arrived via ancient Dalmatia...........do you have anything with northern-balkans or hungarian areas ?

Carlos
18-11-19, 22:59
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9F_9QYqBiPk/XdMDYX95Q3I/AAAAAAAABd0/Gx9Mog1vQn8hDajU0TwW8cEfvBqXivHcgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ClosetAncientNov2019.JPEG

At the moment they are values up to 10 and below 10 practically. And considering that the sample Etrusca R473 has a quality of 82, the gala on 41 and perhaps that of the Visigoth is also not very high because they are quite close results.

tuț
18-11-19, 23:07
After 40-50 generations we begin to have all the same ancestors who lived over 1000 years ago. We become a mixture of all these ancient samples in slightly different proportions ...:rolleyes2:
What can distinguish us from them are the possible viable mutations that occurred over time.

tuț
18-11-19, 23:09
One by one, Beautiful Viewers! lol!:rolleyes2:

Salento
18-11-19, 23:11
maybe you arrived via ancient Dalmatia...........do you have anything with northern-balkans or hungarian areas ?

This? :

https://i.imgur.com/2zQuhhz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qvHmPiA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/p1KjOHE.jpg

Pax Augusta
18-11-19, 23:14
Let's get on the ground, it is important to know what you are talking about. Observe all the details from the names that have been given to the streets to the maritime traffic as a way of having a broader vision through the past-present time and vice versa.

Watching ... Processing

Etruscan Necropolis La Mattonara is a bit north of Civitavecchia. The red line on the right is the border between Etruscans and Latins, Sabines.

https://i.imgur.com/KDESxeO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mUk54i5.jpg

tuț
18-11-19, 23:28
Where are those xx cM that were inherited from 2000 ... 8000... years ago ?!! loool! ...
Did they hide it ?!:confused2:

Salento
18-11-19, 23:36
Where are those cM that were inherited from 2000 ... 8000... years ago ?!! loool! ...
Did they hide it ?!:confused2:

we show what they give us.
You're welcome to do the same thing and show us some of your results.

catosicarius
19-11-19, 00:28
How accurate is this stuff? I'm Croatian and most of my matches are Scythian.

Carlos
19-11-19, 00:54
Etruscan Necropolis La Mattonara is a bit north of Civitavecchia. The red line on the right is the border between Etruscans and Latins, Sabines.

https://i.imgur.com/KDESxeO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mUk54i5.jpg



Thank you very much, I will save the map.


There is a Spa next to the necropolis, it is great.

Carlos
19-11-19, 00:58
All these computers are rough approximations. It's not the exact science! But these have beautiful pictures, but they jumped the horse!

Well, it's not a bad idea to ignore who doesn't publish results. Some giving everything and others giving their opinions without giving anything. It is what it is. If I get a winged Unicorn result I will also publish it so we would like to see its results as well.

torzio
19-11-19, 01:43
This? :

https://i.imgur.com/2zQuhhz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qvHmPiA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/p1KjOHE.jpg


my bronze age
https://i.postimg.cc/RZvpfSbw/my-new-nov-one.png

i only get a "pannonian" for bronze age .....see below

https://i.postimg.cc/nr80LpDj/bronze-age.png (https://postimages.org/)

Angela
19-11-19, 01:56
Where can I find them?

Sorry, Paschalis, I just saw your post.

After you log into your account, go to ancestry, and then look at your ancient samples, there will be a number after the information (in blue on my computer) which identifies the specific sample in various graphics and charts.

torzio
19-11-19, 01:58
lol... You are close from here. :)

you mean norway ?

torzio
19-11-19, 02:02
romanian :)

thanks.......still checking out what the dacians spoke before they spoke Latin.......might be interesting

PaschalisB
19-11-19, 11:01
Sorry, Paschalis, I just saw your post.

After you log into your account, go to ancestry, and then look at your ancient samples, there will be a number after the information (in blue on my computer) which identifies the specific sample in various graphics and charts.

I can't find it, maybe I need to upgrade my account?

Carlos
19-11-19, 14:45
After and before Rome. An increase of R1a and J is observed. In mitochondrial increase in K, H and U

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kKIgQfmO4u0/XcgpNjkw5sI/AAAAAAAABSg/86EKFw_v_jIeDgTI9jFAVPE09J6qmW6vwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutnweY.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3H1PY5lM0Dc/XcgpKVD-EQI/AAAAAAAABSc/0X9ougnAoo053z-v6zRfcOdgsC1g_rVJgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/YDNDISTRIBUTION.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ta9lfaCGLAQ/XcgpaGenxfI/AAAAAAAABSo/uWyhdpICgtQh6QcLZ84vYUNeAAY7OVh5QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutonewmtDNA.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4YDWu65gq2Q/XcgpUQxrbII/AAAAAAAABSk/plrVQcsOaikKotcfh3jPwE3yfD48ghl1QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Image%2B2.jpg


Before and after Rome and Italy


E1b1--10.2%----9.09%
T-------2,56%---2.27%
G------2.56%----2.27%
I1------2.56%---2.27%
I2------2.56%---2.27%
J-------7.69%---11.3%
R1a----5.2%----18.1%
R1b---66.6%----50%

mtDNA

H----------14.9%---16.6%
H1+H3----22.9%---22.2%
H5---------3.44%---3.33%
HV---------1,14%---1.11%
HV0+V----6.89%---6.66%
I-----------2.29%---2.22%
J-----------5.24%---3.33%
k---------10.30%---13.3%
T2---------9.19%---7.77%
U----------4.59%---4.44%
U3---------2.29%----3.33%
U5--------10.3%----11.1%
W4--------4.59%---4.44%
X----------1.14%----000


Upon the arrival of Rome I see a significant increase in J and R1a.
In mitochondrial minimal changes but a slight increase in H, k, U3, U5.

Carlos
19-11-19, 15:33
Some seem to have an agenda here ...
Immediately after you answered I was blocked by angela and jovialis.

You do not have to be an expert to realize that after each new generation you inherit half of the 6800cM of your prehistoric ...grandfather. Divide this to 2 for each new generation. After 15 generations (375 years) you inherit only 0.1 Cm from the grandfather? After 20 generations (500 years) you inherit only around 0.0064 cM! ... yes or no? Just that ... There are other things as well, like extremely small fractions of the ancient genome that can be analyzed due to the deterioration in time, the possible mutations that have occurred since then until now ... This often reduces the probability of those 0,00xxxcM so you can still detect nothing. I think it's a game of hazard and improbabilities that amplifies each other.
Otherwise ask an expert. And after that, tell us his opinion, please.

You have not realized that we are always the same, at different times I am seeing my parents, but I do not see myself because I am a unique mold.


Believe me they are here, I have seen them, they put on human skin suits to collect our seed, be careful.

Angela
19-11-19, 19:03
Some seem to have an agenda here ...
Immediately after you answered I was blocked by angela and jovialis.

You do not have to be an expert to realize that after each new generation you inherit half of the 6800cM of your prehistoric ...grandfather. Divide this to 2 for each new generation. After 15 generations (375 years) you inherit only 0.1 centiMorgan from the "prehistoric grandfather"? After 20 generations (500 years) you inherit only around 0.0064 cM! ... yes or no? Just that ... There are other things as well, like extremely small fractions of the ancient genome that can be analyzed due to the deterioration in time, the possible mutations that have occurred since then until now ... This often reduces the probability of those 0,00xxxxx cM so you can still detect nothing. I think it's a game of hazard and improbabilities that amplifies each other.
Otherwise ask an expert. And after that, tell us his opinion, please.

I didn't "block" you, whatever you mean by that, or at least I don't recall it. Plus, my policy has been, continues to be, and will be that I give infractions only if the user is insulting other groups, posting hate speech, spamming, causing disruption by starting flame wars etc, all allowed by the rules. The only user I outright banned repeatedly is our crazy Romanian poster, who has set up hundreds of sock accounts after being banned for having reached infraction totals justifying it. No site on the internet would allow someone like that to post. Hopefully, Maciamo will find a way to prevent him from starting account after account to post and downvote every single post I've ever written. Sometimes I get two from him per post. :) In the real world, that might be harassment and stalking. It doesn't bother me enough for me to pursue it.

I DO NOT, repeat DO NOT ban people for posting theories which I think are nonsense. If I did, half the posts on here would get people banned. I leave that to sites like Anthrogenica.

Angela
19-11-19, 21:54
lol... :(

I didn't remember banning anyone under that name.

Apparently, I banned another one of your sock accounts.

The rules should be clear, even to a Romanian crazy, that you cannot use sock accounts to continue posting after having been banned.

Jovialis
19-11-19, 22:23
I have banned quite a few of these socks. Probably more than 20 at least.

torzio
21-11-19, 18:38
my highest total cm is

Illyrian / Dalmatian

1600 BC

I4331

Total cM=19.94

.......................................

my father is
Scythian Moldova

300 BC

scy301


Total cM=17.04

.......................................

my mother ...........wow 58.01

Czech Velke Prilepy

2050 BC

Rise577


Total cM=58.01


..............................................

my wife


Scythian Moldova


290 BC

scy311


Total cM=24.94

Duarte
21-11-19, 21:45
All my direct matches on MTA:

https://i.imgur.com/D1BUjCS.png
https://i.imgur.com/elFDCEG.png
https://i.imgur.com/crvgTVJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/2LyXFUG.png
https://i.imgur.com/83YHxao.png
https://i.imgur.com/Y9k5GjU.png
https://i.imgur.com/Zr2nVfn.png
https://i.imgur.com/6BqZn3x.png
https://i.imgur.com/aHLYhMm.png
https://i.imgur.com/AWKI4Rc.png
https://i.imgur.com/ymz1EPe.png
https://i.imgur.com/FTdlyHI.png
https://i.imgur.com/8PHa1XD.png
https://i.imgur.com/QK3RbVc.png
https://i.imgur.com/lVh127O.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/MK7kHZG.png
https://i.imgur.com/De2GkfV.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/86ZvytD.png
https://i.imgur.com/D9Lfrox.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/cLjRB9m.png
https://i.imgur.com/AVgBnvy.png
https://i.imgur.com/ktPFeLg.png

matty74
22-11-19, 07:35
I went and deleted my raw data and reuploaded the data to Mytruancestry.com and it's pretty identical to the previous one. I'll add my original in a minute. The 153cm similarity with my 1st match does not make any sense to me. This is identical to my old kit and from a new upload from a new raw data file but maybe it's an a glitch with ancestry.com

https://i.imgur.com/E1wKWI9.jpg

matty74
22-11-19, 07:38
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Celtic Mix Lombard (670 AD) ..... 4.462 - CL83 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

2. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 5.02 - I5377 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96% match vs all users

3. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.297 - I2860 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96% match vs all users

4. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 5.432 - I2097 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98% match vs all users

5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 5.435 - I5383 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 5.617 - PCA100_Mas13 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

7. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 5.646 - I2452 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97% match vs all users

8. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 5.708 - HinxtonO1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
91% match vs all users

9. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 5.739 - NS1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98% match vs all users

10. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.824 - I2859 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97% match vs all users

11. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.968 - SZ15 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92% match vs all users

12. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 6.111 - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96% match vs all users

13. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 6.262 - I1767 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
86% match vs all users

14. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 6.54 - I2573 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98% match vs all users

15. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 6.759 - G48 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
89% match vs all users

16. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 6.814 - VDP-A6 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
94% match vs all users

17. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.864 - 6DRIF-18 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
93% match vs all users

18. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 7.094 - I2458 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
89% match vs all users

19. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.242 - Hinxton HS3 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
96% match vs all users

20. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 7.253 - Unknown (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92% match vs all users

21. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 7.281 - I2981 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
88% match vs all users

22. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.302 - SSJ-A2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98% match vs all users

23. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1349 AD) ..... 7.33 - OSL9B - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
92% match vs all users

24. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 7.336 - CL92 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99% match vs all users

25. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) ..... 7.341 - TSK-A26 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

26. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 7.369 - I7573 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

27. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 7.389 - NS6 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

28. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 7.498 - I3875 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

29. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.624 - SZ12 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

30. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 7.653 - CL146 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.677 - SZ14 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

32. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.69 - 2099 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

33. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 7.723 - I5515 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

34. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.729 - KNS-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

35. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 7.749 - I2568 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

36. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 7.886 - I2653 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91% match vs all users

37. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 7.932 - I8206 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

38. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 7.98 - AED_249 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

39. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 8.031 - G154 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

40. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.042 - 6DRIF-23 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

41. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 8.052 - NW_255 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

42. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 8.06 - CL84 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

43. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.087 - ORE-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

44. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 8.115 - Rathlin2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

45. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.141 - SZ4 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

46. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.149 - 97029 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

47. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 8.265 - G300 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

48. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.268 - Shohola - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

49. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) ..... 8.333 - KOV-A2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85% match vs all users

50. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 8.342 - ALH_1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

51. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 8.411 - I5367 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

52. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.439 - GTE-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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84% match vs all users

53. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.476 - GRS-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

54. Iron Age Melton England (85 BC) ..... 8.506 - M1489 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

55. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) ..... 8.557 - DA119 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

56. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.623 - 6DRIF-3 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

57. Early Bronze Age Hexham (1900 BC) ..... 8.634 - I2609 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

58. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 8.688 - I6680 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

59. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.727 - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

60. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.796 - stg021 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

61. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.8 - 84035 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

62. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.802 - OakO4 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

63. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.836 - DKS-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

64. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.875 - SZ7 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

65. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 8.877 - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

66. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.889 - G24 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85% match vs all users

67. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.898 - SZ22 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

68. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 8.946 - Ber37 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

69. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 8.962 - SZ23 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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72% match vs all users

70. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.977 - Sigtuna stg021 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

71. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 9.007 - ALH_10 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

72. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 9.022 - Ber45 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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75% match vs all users

73. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 9.036 - I3255 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

74. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.058 - SSG-A2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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78% match vs all users

75. Viking Denmark Revshale (1100 AD) ..... 9.065 - G43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

76. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 9.093 - 97002 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

77. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 9.21 - Rathlin2B - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

78. Viking Gaelic Child Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.338 - YGS-B2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

79. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 9.365 - NS12b - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

80. Viking Denmark Revshale (1080 AD) ..... 9.381 - Revshale16 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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83% match vs all users

81. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.411 - G973 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

82. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.499 - SZ38 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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70% match vs all users

83. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.554 - SSG-A4 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

84. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 9.572 - Rise577 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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77% match vs all users

85. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 9.617 - DA194 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

86. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 9.659 - I0112 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

87. Merovingian Lord (605 AD) ..... 9.659 - NS9 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

88. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1440 AD) ..... 9.772 - R1219 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

89. Anglo Saxon (720 AD) ..... 9.799 - Hinxton HS1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

90. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.804 - SZ8 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

91. Alemanni Norse Mix (520 AD) ..... 9.832 - AED_1119 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

92. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 9.849 - CL145 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

93. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.906 - SZ9 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

94. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.916 - I12162 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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70% match vs all users

95. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) ..... 9.956 - Rise61 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

96. Celt Medieval Denmark Odense (1164 AD) ..... 9.991 - G427 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

97. Germanic Tribe (505 AD) ..... 10.05 - AED92b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

98. Celtic-Alemannic Tribe (505 AD) ..... 10.05 - Alh3a - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

99. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 10.06 - G658 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

100. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 10.16 - CL93 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

matty74
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matty74
22-11-19, 09:37
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Celtic Mix Lombard (670 AD) ..... 4.452 - CL83 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

2. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 4.992 - I5377 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

3. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.232 - I2860 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

4. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 5.469 - I5383 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

5. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 5.472 - I2097 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

6. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 5.603 - I2452 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

7. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 5.671 - PCA100_Mas13 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

8. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 5.71 - HinxtonO1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91% match vs all users

9. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 5.793 - NS1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

10. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.848 - I2859 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

11. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.941 - SZ15 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

12. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 6.126 - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

13. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 6.271 - I1767 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

14. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 6.585 - I2573 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

15. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 6.751 - G48 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

16. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 6.764 - VDP-A6 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

17. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.875 - 6DRIF-18 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

18. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 7.141 - I2458 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

19. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 7.22 - Unknown (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

20. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.239 - Hinxton HS3 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

21. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 7.271 - I2981 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

22. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1349 AD) ..... 7.29 - OSL9B - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

23. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 7.307 - NS6 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

24. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.332 - SSJ-A2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

25. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 7.355 - I7573 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

26. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 7.361 - CL92 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

27. Viking Saxon Iceland (1150 AD) ..... 7.365 - TSK-A26 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

28. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 7.539 - I3875 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91% match vs all users

29. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.546 - SZ12 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

30. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 7.637 - CL146 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.64 - SZ14 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

32. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 7.708 - I5515 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

33. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.723 - 2099 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

34. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.732 - KNS-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

35. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 7.778 - I2568 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

36. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 7.939 - I2653 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91% match vs all users

37. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 7.95 - AED_249 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

38. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 7.96 - I8206 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

39. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.037 - 6DRIF-23 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

40. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 8.04 - CL84 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

41. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 8.049 - G154 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

42. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 8.084 - NW_255 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

43. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.11 - ORE-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

44. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.12 - SZ4 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

45. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 8.14 - Rathlin2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

46. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.148 - 97029 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

47. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.208 - Shohola - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

48. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 8.232 - G300 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

49. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 8.313 - ALH_1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

50. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) ..... 8.349 - KOV-A2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85% match vs all users

51. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 8.39 - I5367 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

52. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.479 - GTE-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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84% match vs all users

53. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.512 - GRS-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

54. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.569 - 6DRIF-3 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

55. Iron Age Melton England (85 BC) ..... 8.593 - M1489 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

56. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) ..... 8.625 - DA119 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

57. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 8.656 - I6680 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

58. Early Bronze Age Hexham (1900 BC) ..... 8.691 - I2609 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

59. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.754 - stg021 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

60. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.781 - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

61. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.802 - SZ7 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

62. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.81 - OakO4 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

63. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.831 - 84035 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

64. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.85 - SZ22 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

65. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 8.853 - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

66. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.864 - DKS-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

67. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.895 - G24 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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84% match vs all users

68. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.935 - Sigtuna stg021 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

69. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 8.941 - SZ23 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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72% match vs all users

70. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 8.959 - Ber37 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

71. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 9.008 - ALH_10 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

72. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 9.009 - Ber45 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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75% match vs all users

73. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 9.023 - I3255 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

74. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.053 - SSG-A2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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78% match vs all users

75. Viking Denmark Revshale (1100 AD) ..... 9.068 - G43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

76. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 9.094 - 97002 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

77. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 9.278 - Rathlin2B - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

78. Viking Denmark Odense (1080 AD) ..... 9.341 - Revshale16
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84% match vs all users

79. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 9.364 - NS12b - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

80. Viking Gaelic Child Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.372 - YGS-B2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

81. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.387 - G973 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

82. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.485 - SZ38 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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70% match vs all users

83. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 9.594 - Rise577 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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77% match vs all users

84. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.598 - SSG-A4 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

85. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 9.62 - I0112 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

86. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 9.663 - DA194 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87. Merovingian Lord (605 AD) ..... 9.671 - NS9 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88. Anglo Saxon (720 AD) ..... 9.788 - Hinxton HS1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

89. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1440 AD) ..... 9.817 - R1219 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

90. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 9.843 - CL145 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

91. Alemanni Norse Mix (520 AD) ..... 9.868 - AED_1119 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

92. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.875 - SZ8 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.908 - I12162 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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70% match vs all users

94. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.91 - SZ9 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

95. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) ..... 9.952 - Rise61 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96. Celt Medieval Denmark Odense (1164 AD) ..... 10.0 - G427 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 10.08 - G658 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

98. Celtic-Alemannic Tribe (505 AD) ..... 10.09 - Alh3a - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

99. Germanic Tribe (505 AD) ..... 10.11 - AED92b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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100. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) ..... 10.13 - CL93 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

Angela
22-11-19, 14:53
As I wrote in a post after only 500 years (20 generations x 25 years) we can only talk about tiny pieces of less than 0.01 cM.

"You do not have to be an expert to realize that after each new generation you inherit half of the 6800cM of your prehistoric ...grandfather. Divide this to 2 for each new generation. After 15 generations (375 years) you inherit only 0.1 Cm from the grandfather? After 20 generations (500 years) you inherit only around 0.0064 cM! ... yes or no? Just that ... There are other things as well, like extremely small fractions of the ancient genome that can be analyzed due to the deterioration in time, the possible mutations that have occurred since then until now ... This often reduces the probability of those 0,00xxxcM so you can still detect nothing. I think it's a game of hazard and improbabilities that amplifies each other."

1 cM has about 1,000,000 bases and the entire human genome has ~ 3,000,000,000 bases. After only 800 years or 32 generations already the entire genome of the ancient ancestor, it has been divided by 2**32 = 4,294,967,296 so that is more than 3,000,000,000 bases it contains. We can no longer speak of centiMorgans but only of separate bases after 800 years. And here the story stops, leaving room only for the chance of recombination.

I get it.

However, if I'm remembering the right post, the list of genetic distances they provide for your top 60 samples is based on the G25 isn't it?

I don't believe you had a problem with that, although I have my reservations.

The point is that some of us have lives with other interests in addition to our responsibilities, and don't have the time or perhaps in some cases the technological savvy to do it ourselves for perhaps thousands of samples.

Someone saw a need, a way to make money from it, and did it. I think it's called entrepreneurship.

The Deep Dive, for me personally is more for fun.

Still, I suppose they should be asked about this issue.

Salento
22-11-19, 15:00
As I wrote in a post after only 500 years (20 generations x 25 years) we can only talk about tiny pieces of less than 0.01 cM.

"You do not have to be an expert to realize that after each new generation you inherit half of the 6800cM of your prehistoric ...grandfather. Divide this to 2 for each new generation. After 15 generations (375 years) you inherit only 0.1 Cm from the grandfather? After 20 generations (500 years) you inherit only around 0.0064 cM! ... yes or no? Just that ... There are other things as well, like extremely small fractions of the ancient genome that can be analyzed due to the deterioration in time, the possible mutations that have occurred since then until now ... This often reduces the probability of those 0,00xxxcM so you can still detect nothing. I think it's a game of hazard and improbabilities that amplifies each other."

1 cM has about 1,000,000 bases and the entire human genome has ~ 3,000,000,000 bases. After only 800 years or 32 generations already the entire genome of the ancient ancestor, it has been divided by 2**32 = 4,294,967,296 so that is more than 3,000,000,000 bases it contains. We can no longer speak of centiMorgans but only of separate bases after 800 years. And here the story stops, leaving room only for the chance of recombination.

47,000 years later or so, 20 % of Neanderthal DNA survived in modern humans (except for SSA), Each of us has about 1 to 3 % of Neanderthal DNA.

imho the formula that you keep posting is only valid for the DNA of a single foreigner/outsider entered into a new Community.

The mixture variation depends on the ratio of diversity of the parents.

If every generation remains within the same genetic ethnic tribal regional community, the genes stays, and changes are minimals, even if every once in a while, a new Outsider comes in, and his/her genes will be diluted and gone in accordance with your formula.

Massive migration is a different topic.

EDIT
We didn't lose the Neanderthal genes because the Modern humans that left Africa “interacted” with them so many times at different times and locations that eventually many Neanderthal genes became a permanent part of our Genetic Makeup.

me vs Neanderthal:

https://i.imgur.com/s2T3r2z.jpg

Duarte
22-11-19, 16:32
47,000 years later or so, 20 % of Neanderthal DNA survived in modern humans (except for SSA), Each of us has about 1 to 3 % of Neanderthal DNA.

imho the formula that you keep posting is only valid for the DNA of a single foreigner/outsider entered into a new Community.

The mixture variation depends on the ratio of diversity of the parents.

If every generation remains within the same genetic ethnic tribal regional community, the genes stays, and changes are minimals, even if every once in a while, a new Outsider comes in, and his/her genes will be diluted and gone in accordance with your formula.

Massive migration is a different topic.

Talro,
I entirely agree with Salento. Their logical reasoning does not consider the variable represented by the maintenance of genetic flows in marriages between people descendants entirely from the same original ethnic group. You consider that all is just a continuous lineage (patrilineal or matrilineal) that dilutes over the years in mixtures of genetically distinct groups . Tomenable, some time ago right here at Eupedia, said there are cousins ​​of Kennewick Man living today in North America who share with this 9,300 year-old ancient fossil, centimeters of autosomal DNA that leave you of jaw-dropping. Native Americans have stopped receiving new genetic inflows since the Bering Strait Bridge closed. Just to exemplify with the case of marriages in my family, they have always been marriages of Iberian descents with Iberian descents since they arrived in America in 1750. When a new genetic flow entered the family in 1908, it was Iberian newcomers in the great waves of European immigration to Brazil until, at least, 1950. The fail of his model is there. Autosomal DNA genes do not divide generation after generation until nothing remains as you think, at least in the same ethnic group. In one and the same ethnic group they keep on generation after generation by the sum of the practically identical genetical inheritance of father and mother (mother and father) generation after generation. Not to mention the inbreeding that until 1960 was the prevailing in my family. My paternal grandfather is my paternal grandmother's first cousin, and if that wasn't enough, my father and mother were also second cousins. Regards.


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Angela
22-11-19, 16:51
Good point, guys. :)

torzio
22-11-19, 18:40
47,000 years later or so, 20 % of Neanderthal DNA survived in modern humans (except for SSA), Each of us has about 1 to 3 % of Neanderthal DNA.

imho the formula that you keep posting is only valid for the DNA of a single foreigner/outsider entered into a new Community.

The mixture variation depends on the ratio of diversity of the parents.

If every generation remains within the same genetic ethnic tribal regional community, the genes stays, and changes are minimals, even if every once in a while, a new Outsider comes in, and his/her genes will be diluted and gone in accordance with your formula.

Massive migration is a different topic.

EDIT
We didn't lose the Neanderthal genes because the Modern humans that left Africa “interacted” with them so many times at different times and locations that eventually many Neanderthal genes became a permanent part of our Genetic Makeup.

me vs Neanderthal:

https://i.imgur.com/s2T3r2z.jpg

you left me out

https://i.postimg.cc/90bPrQKW/nean-devi.png (https://postimages.org/)

matty74
22-11-19, 19:47
Ok, well can someone more knowledgeable than I explain the 153cm I “share” with an Icelander?

Carlos
22-11-19, 19:59
you left me out

Torzio and Salento.

https://i.postimg.cc/90bPrQKW/nean-devi.png (https://postimages.org/)


https://cdn.eldoce.tv/sites/default/files/styles/site_nota_slider_contenido/public/nota/2016/09/19/librook.jpg?itok=iFWW-2KF
Carlos to 100k/h

Salento
22-11-19, 21:47
I meant no disrespect to @Torzio @Carlos and @Denisovan :grin:

... as a matter of fact, I get Denisovan too, sometimes even more than Neanderthal :)

see below:

https://i.imgur.com/kvpq4ZW.jpg


... from Ethnogene

Carlos
22-11-19, 21:49
^^
Denisovan, that sounds very weird. LOL
Is there any convincing reconstruction?

matty74
22-11-19, 22:32
A second cousin?

From 935AD?

Duarte
22-11-19, 23:11
Icelanders.

Due to their small founding population and history of relative isolation, Icelanders have often been considered highly genetically homogeneous as compared to other European populations. For this reason, along with the extensive genealogical records for much of the population that reach back to the settlement of Iceland, Icelanders have been the focus of considerable genomics research by both biotechnology companies and academic and medical researchers. It was, for example, possible for researchers to reconstruct much of the maternal genome of Iceland's first known black inhabitant, Hans Jonatan, from the DNA of his present-day descendants partly because the distinctively African parts of his genome were unique in Iceland until very recent times.

Genetic evidence shows that most DNA lineages found among Icelanders today can be traced to the settlement of Iceland, indicating that there has been relatively little immigration since. This evidence shows that the founder population of Iceland came from Ireland, Scotland, and Scandinavia: studies of mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes indicate that 62% of Icelanders' matrilineal ancestry derives from Scotland and Ireland (with most of the rest being from Scandinavia), while 75% of their patrilineal ancestry derives from Scandinavia (with most of the rest being from the Irish and British Isles).

Other studies have identified other ancestries, however. Another study showed that a tiny proportion of samples of contemporary Icelanders carry a more distant lineage, which belongs to the haplogroup C1e, which can possibly be traced to the settlement of the Americas around 14,000 years ago. This hints a small proportion of Icelanders have some Native American ancestry arising from Norse colonization of Greenland and North America.




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Angela
22-11-19, 23:55
OK. We can't give negative votes anymore, but moderators can give infractions, and provocative posts leading to dissension are included in the grounds. Ten points lead to a ban.

I will also delete such posts.

So, be advised.

Carlos
23-11-19, 00:38
mtDNA: H5a1

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LvPBGdXjfco/XdhfPHQOkmI/AAAAAAAABgI/WSM8NJM9j04oTufuG1wdHorXGHH1SdFTgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/inmigranDenmarkanciengroup.JPEG
1. French_Basque (12.22)
2. Spanish_Basque (13.54)
3. Southwest_French (18.42)
4. Spanish_Aragon (18.58)
5. Spanish_Cantabria (19.43)
6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (19.83)
7. Spanish_Valencia (20.87)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (22.49)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nox7xU63NYI/Xdhd1teG5gI/AAAAAAAABf0/YLC0yLYZFM4sstEaRwfDr05zkcMuzEdYgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/inmigranteDenmarkPCAancient.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8rxtMYkXFbo/Xdhd53hEFEI/AAAAAAAABf4/OQwJNpQhbEovlYWgiJlM0lWLe1IDAM5swCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/inmigranteDenmarkPCAmodern.JPEG

The name given to the sample takes you to an airport in the late 60s or early 70s, the Danish version of the movie "Spanish women in Paris" while the red button takes you to a cemetery where a plague had been buried From massive leprosy in Denmark in 1305, then the sixties airport is exchanged for a port, a trip perhaps on a wooden boat or by land, why.

matty74
23-11-19, 00:52
Icelanders.

Due to their small founding population and history of relative isolation, Icelanders have often been considered highly genetically homogeneous as compared to other European populations. For this reason, along with the extensive genealogical records for much of the population that reach back to the settlement of Iceland, Icelanders have been the focus of considerable genomics research by both biotechnology companies and academic and medical researchers. It was, for example, possible for researchers to reconstruct much of the maternal genome of Iceland's first known black inhabitant, Hans Jonatan, from the DNA of his present-day descendants partly because the distinctively African parts of his genome were unique in Iceland until very recent times.

Genetic evidence shows that most DNA lineages found among Icelanders today can be traced to the settlement of Iceland, indicating that there has been relatively little immigration since. This evidence shows that the founder population of Iceland came from Ireland, Scotland, and Scandinavia: studies of mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes indicate that 62% of Icelanders' matrilineal ancestry derives from Scotland and Ireland (with most of the rest being from Scandinavia), while 75% of their patrilineal ancestry derives from Scandinavia (with most of the rest being from the Irish and British Isles).

Other studies have identified other ancestries, however. Another study showed that a tiny proportion of samples of contemporary Icelanders carry a more distant lineage, which belongs to the haplogroup C1e, which can possibly be traced to the settlement of the Americas around 14,000 years ago. This hints a small proportion of Icelanders have some Native American ancestry arising from Norse colonization of Greenland and North America.




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That does make more sense. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it a bit. I googled Hans Jonatan and found his story to be incredibly interesting. Thank you for pointing that out. We truly can learn something amazingly new each day. Here's a link to his story for anyone who may be interested in reading about it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/01/hans-jonatan-iceland-genome-reconstructed/550667/

italouruguayan
23-11-19, 02:55
My "ancient relatives"


Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi
500 AD
R107
mtDNA: T2hY-DNA: E-V13
Total cM=102.83
Largest segment=54.08 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 69) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 8

9.38 cM






Chr. 9

54.08 cM






Chr. 16

27.78 cM






Chr. 19

11.57 cM





Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC
I4331
mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
Total cM=35.45
Largest segment=28.81 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is 70% closer than other matching users

Chr. 1

3.45 cM






Chr. 9

28.81 cM






Chr. 17

3.17 cM





Imperial Rome Marche CN
165 AD
R835
mtDNA: H2a5Y-DNA: J-P58
Total cM=32.72
Largest segment=18.11 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 37) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 12

6.2 cM






Chr. 16

18.11 cM






Chr. 19

8.4 cM





Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC
R1
mtDNA: U5a2b
Total cM=95.42
Largest segment=17.59 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 94) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 3

9.6 cM






Chr. 5

11.32 cM






Chr. 8

14.41 cM






Chr. 11

17.59 cM






Chr. 12

12.11 cM






Chr. 19

15.68 cM






Chr. 20

14.67 cM





Scythian Moldova
290 BC
scy311
mtDNA: T2b
Total cM=16.68
Largest segment=13.87 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is 73% closer than other matching users

Chr. 3

2.8 cM






Chr. 16

13.87 cM





Medieval Villa Magna Italy
905 AD
R60
mtDNA: T2c1
Total cM=31.07
Largest segment=12.61 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 77) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 3

8.41 cM






Chr. 8

12.61 cM






Chr. 12

10.04 cM





Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy197b
mtDNA: U5a1a1 ?
Total cM=14.23
Largest segment=12.1 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is 58% closer than other matching users

Chr. 16

12.1 cM






Chr. 17

2.13 cM





Central Roman
670 AD
CL36
mtDNA: X2b ?
Total cM=13.49
Largest segment=11.73 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is 61% closer than other matching users

Chr. 4

1.76 cM






Chr. 16

11.73 cM





Medieval Piedmont
670 AD
CL57
mtDNA: H24aY-DNA: R1b
Total cM=18.14
Largest segment=11.23 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 91% closer than other matching users

Chr. 1

2.04 cM






Chr. 11

4.86 cM






Chr. 16

11.23 cM





Imperial Rome San Ercolano
100 AD
R117
mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: J-M410
Total cM=25.31
Largest segment=10.75 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 54) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 8

9.19 cM






Chr. 16

5.36 cM






Chr. 20

10.75 cM





Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD
R1287
mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R-U152
Total cM=10.11
Largest segment=10.11 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 59) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 8

10.11 cM





Imperial Rome Centocelle
200 AD
R51
mtDNA: U3b1
Total cM=9.3
Largest segment=9.3 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 54) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 8

9.3 cM





Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC
scy192
mtDNA: H8c
Total cM=13.42
Largest segment=9.05 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is 63% closer than other matching users

Chr. 11

4.37 cM






Chr. 16

9.05 cM





Imperial Rome Centocelle
282 AD
R47
mtDNA: J1c1cY-DNA: G-M406
Total cM=16.15
Largest segment=8.63 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 60) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 5

7.51 cM






Chr. 8

8.63 cM





Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
860 AD
R1283
mtDNA: H12Y-DNA: J-M12
Total cM=23.09
Largest segment=8.37 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 56) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)

Chr. 3

7.5 cM






Chr. 5

7.21 cM






Chr. 8

8.37 cM





Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7499
mtDNA: H5
Total cM=24.99
Largest segment=8.14 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is 71% closer than other matching users

Chr. 3

6.08 cM






Chr. 8

7.18 cM






Chr. 11

8.14 cM






Chr. 16

3.58 cM





Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD
I12647
mtDNA: H1ak1
Total cM=17.72
Largest segment=7.59 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33) - Your raw DNA is 96% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

6.72 cM






Chr. 11

7.59 cM






Chr. 20

3.41 cM





Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7498
mtDNA: H3a1Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a
Total cM=12.24
Largest segment=6.06 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 34) - Your raw DNA is 98% closer than other matching users

Chr. 5

3.07 cM






Chr. 8

6.06 cM






Chr. 21

3.1 cM





Central Roman / Mixed
590 AD
SZ19
mtDNA: HV9c
Total cM=5.19
Largest segment=5.19 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 52% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

5.19 cM





Central Roman
590 AD
SZ32
mtDNA: H74 ?
Total cM=4.27
Largest segment=4.27 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 52% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

4.27 cM





Medieval Iberian
670 AD
CL23
mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
Total cM=3.74
Largest segment=3.74 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is 37% closer than other matching users

Chr. 17

3.74 cM





Iberian / Piedmont
670 AD
CL94
mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1b
Total cM=3.65
Largest segment=3.65 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 20% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

3.65 cM





North Central Lombard
670 AD
CL63
mtDNA: H ?
Total cM=8.4
Largest segment=3.5 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 74% closer than other matching users

Chr. 8

3.06 cM






Chr. 11

3.5 cM






Chr. 15

1.82 cM





Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD
NS3b
mtDNA: I5a1 ?
Total cM=3.21
Largest segment=3.21 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 37) - Your raw DNA is 66% closer than other matching users

Chr. 5

3.21 cM





Ostrogoth Mix
495 AD
AEH_1
mtDNA: H5 ?
Total cM=4.9
Largest segment=2.81 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 8) - Your raw DNA is 98% closer than other matching users

Chr. 1

2.81 cM






Chr. 6

2.09 cM





Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy300
mtDNA: H5
Total cM=2.64
Largest segment=2.64 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is 40% closer than other matching users

Chr. 12

2.64 cM





Visigoth Germanic Girona
550 AD
I12163
mtDNA: J2b1a
Total cM=2.56
Largest segment=2.56 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 20) - Your raw DNA is 20% closer than other matching users

Chr. 5

2.56 cM





Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD
I12644
mtDNA: U4a2Y-DNA: E1b1b1b1a1
Total cM=2.48
Largest segment=2.48 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 30) - Your raw DNA is 80% closer than other matching users

Chr. 20

2.48 cM





Thuringii Tribe
420 AD
AED_1108
mtDNA: U4 ?
Total cM=2.34
Largest segment=2.34 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is 5% closer than other matching users

Chr. 19

2.34 cM





Late Period Ancient Egypt
650 BC
JK2911
mtDNA: M1a1Y-DNA: J2b1-M205
Total cM=1.75
Largest segment=1.75 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 5) - Your raw DNA is 60% closer than other matching users

Chr. 5

1.75 cM

Carlos
23-11-19, 03:38
148. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 22.03 - R32 -

Ancient Greek + Gallo-Roman (6.215)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.523)
Roman (8.348)
Gallo-Roman (12.58)
Ancient Greek (12.62)



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And what sounds so good what can it be? The link does not explain much and I do not anticipate to think anything until I know what things are, unless I turn to the oracle, but for myself it does not work very well so I will wait to know if anyone else has this Show or know something.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P7pqJxPN8jk/XdiOOSY2fLI/AAAAAAAABgU/WqwGB7vDFKAtmDL-tNwh8JUOdmpv5s9YACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/mausuleoAugusto.JPEG

Salento
23-11-19, 03:42
How many samples do you get in total?

does it cost extra?

Carlos
23-11-19, 04:00
How many samples do you get in total?

does it cost extra?

There are two lightning packs each for € 49. In total 150 samples or 125 if you buy only lightning.


I think it is now more personalized and the rays are points of light on the person-to-person samples. Because at the beginning of buying it I didn't have the Augustos Mausoleum and now I have it.

I will wait for more information about this exhibition, but I fear that it is otherwise I would not have learned the complete list of Roman emperors on my own and I would not have been so passionate about the Claudio series and besides reading the book, you have already seen that It's a fat billet.

What normal middle class child would read that?

Carlos
23-11-19, 04:03
I think the gens julia had some Etruscan blood and they had to hide it

Anybody hold me now in my house, but well I will enjoy it until it falls from the heights, I will burst against the hard asphalt in case it was something else finally.

Jovialis
23-11-19, 05:00
I get a lot of new samples with the update, including a new first match:

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 6.842 - R1548 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.579 - SZ40 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 8.682 - R65 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

4. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 8.8 - R136 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

5. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 10.28 - CL38 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

6. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 10.29 - R436 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

7. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 10.54 - R34 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

8. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 10.81 - R114 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

9. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 10.87 - R133 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

10. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 11.18 - CL121 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

11. Hellenic Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 11.47 - R73 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

12. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 11.99 - CL30 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

13. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.08 - R58 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

14. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.13 - R1290 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

15. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.2 - R49 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

16. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 12.28 - R47 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

17. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.45 - R60 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

18. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 12.46 - CL25 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

19. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.52 - R30 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

20. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.59 - R54 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

21. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.6 - R117 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

22. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.66 - R51 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

23. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 12.7 - R125 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

24. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 12.77 - R69 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

25. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.28 - R56 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

26. Central Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 13.32 - R1544 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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27. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.46 - R835 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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28. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.68 - SZ19 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

29. Hellenic Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.72 - R115 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

30. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.12 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

31. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 14.39 - R137 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

32. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 14.51 - R50 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

33. Anatolian Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 14.51 - R1543 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

34. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.52 - I9041 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

35. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.54 - I9033 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

36. Hellenic Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 14.6 - R1545 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

37. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 14.63 - R107 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

38. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.68 - R973 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

39. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 14.69 - R64 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

40. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 15.03 - R134 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

41. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 15.1 - Ker1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

42. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 15.14 - R57 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 15.26 - I9006 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

44. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.26 - R44 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

45. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

46. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

47. Imperial Rome Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 15.42 - R75 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

48. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.55 - R43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

49. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 15.82 - R850 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

50. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 15.88 - I0184 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

51. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.96 - BSS31 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

52. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.96 - SZ32 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91% match vs all users

53. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 15.96 - MA2208 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

54. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 16.11 - R76 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

55. Anatolian Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.13 - R130 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

56. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.44 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

57. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 16.46 - MA2198 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

58. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 16.85 - I7499 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

59. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.88 - R59 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

60. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 16.93 - I9010 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

61. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.97 - SI-41 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

62. Roman Outlier Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 17.03 - R1550 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

63. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 17.04 - R71 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

64. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 17.12 - R81 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

65. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 17.15 - R128 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

66. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.17 - R45 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

67. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.18 - I3808 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

68. Anatolian Roman Casale del Dolce (288 AD) ..... 17.19 - R126 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.2 - R970 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

70. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 17.24 - SI-53 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

71. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 17.25 - MA2203 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

72. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (99 AD) ..... 17.31 - R39 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

73. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 17.55 - I3575 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

74. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 17.63 - R131 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95% match vs all users

75. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 17.66 - R1540 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

76. Hellenic/Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 18.65 - R66 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

77. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 18.66 - R52 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

78. Anatolia Bronze Age (1625 BC) ..... 18.73 - I2495 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

79. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 18.77 - I9129 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

80. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 18.8 - R32 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

81. Bronze Age Anatolia (2050 BC) ..... 18.98 - I2683 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

82. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 19.12 - MA2205 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

83. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 19.17 - R70 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

84. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 19.23 - R78 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

85. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 19.28 - MA2206 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

86. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 19.39 - R72 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

87. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 19.89 - I4930 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

88. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 20.0 - R118 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

89. Bronze Age Anatolia (2650 BC) ..... 20.18 - I2499 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

90. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 20.3 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85% match vs all users

91. Canaanite Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 20.35 - R1547 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

92. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 20.48 - QED-2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

93. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 20.58 - R38 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

94. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 20.58 - I3980 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

95. Imperial Rome San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 20.72 - R122 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

96. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.76 - I7424 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85% match vs all users

97. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 20.89 - I3983 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

98. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 20.99 - Rise397 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

99. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) ..... 21.02 - MA2200 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97% match vs all users

100. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 21.03 - I9005 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

Carlos
23-11-19, 05:02
16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33

Oh my Good!!!

Jovialis
23-11-19, 05:24
I get a lot of new samples with the update, including a new first match:

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 6.842 - R1548 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.579 - SZ40 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users

3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 8.682 - R65 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

4. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 8.8 - R136 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

5. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 10.28 - CL38 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users

6. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 10.29 - R436 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

7. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 10.54 - R34 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

8. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 10.81 - R114 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

9. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 10.87 - R133 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users

10. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 11.18 - CL121 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users

11. Hellenic Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 11.47 - R73 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users

12. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 11.99 - CL30 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users

13. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.08 - R58 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users

14. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.13 - R1290 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96
% match vs all users

15. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.2 - R49 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97
% match vs all users

16. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 12.28 - R47 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
% match vs all users

17. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.45 - R60 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

18. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 12.46 - CL25 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98
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19. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.52 - R30 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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20. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.59 - R54 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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21. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.6 - R117 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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22. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.66 - R51 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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23. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 12.7 - R125 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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24. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 12.77 - R69 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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25. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.28 - R56 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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26. Central Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 13.32 - R1544 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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27. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.46 - R835 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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28. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.68 - SZ19 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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29. Hellenic Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.72 - R115 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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30. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.12 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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31. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 14.39 - R137 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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32. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 14.51 - R50 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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33. Anatolian Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 14.51 - R1543 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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34. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.52 - I9041 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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35. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.54 - I9033 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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36. Hellenic Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 14.6 - R1545 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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37. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 14.63 - R107 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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38. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.68 - R973 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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39. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 14.69 - R64 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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40. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 15.03 - R134 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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41. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 15.1 - Ker1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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42. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 15.14 - R57 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 15.26 - I9006 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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44. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.26 - R44 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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45. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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46. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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47. Imperial Rome Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 15.42 - R75 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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48. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.55 - R43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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49. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 15.82 - R850 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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50. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 15.88 - I0184 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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51. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.96 - BSS31 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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52. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.96 - SZ32 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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53. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 15.96 - MA2208 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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54. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 16.11 - R76 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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55. Anatolian Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.13 - R130 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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56. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.44 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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57. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 16.46 - MA2198 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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58. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 16.85 - I7499 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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59. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.88 - R59 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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60. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 16.93 - I9010 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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61. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.97 - SI-41 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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62. Roman Outlier Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 17.03 - R1550 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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63. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 17.04 - R71 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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64. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 17.12 - R81 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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65. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 17.15 - R128 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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66. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.17 - R45 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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67. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.18 - I3808 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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68. Anatolian Roman Casale del Dolce (288 AD) ..... 17.19 - R126 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.2 - R970 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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70. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 17.24 - SI-53 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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71. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 17.25 - MA2203 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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72. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (99 AD) ..... 17.31 - R39 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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73. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 17.55 - I3575 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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74. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 17.63 - R131 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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75. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 17.66 - R1540 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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76. Hellenic/Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 18.65 - R66 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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77. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 18.66 - R52 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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78. Anatolia Bronze Age (1625 BC) ..... 18.73 - I2495 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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79. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 18.77 - I9129 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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80. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 18.8 - R32 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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81. Bronze Age Anatolia (2050 BC) ..... 18.98 - I2683 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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82. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 19.12 - MA2205 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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83. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 19.17 - R70 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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84. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 19.23 - R78 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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85. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 19.28 - MA2206 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 19.39 - R72 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 19.89 - I4930 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 20.0 - R118 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89. Bronze Age Anatolia (2650 BC) ..... 20.18 - I2499 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 20.3 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91. Canaanite Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 20.35 - R1547 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 20.48 - QED-2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 20.58 - R38 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 20.58 - I3980 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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95. Imperial Rome San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 20.72 - R122 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.76 - I7424 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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97. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 20.89 - I3983 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 20.99 - Rise397 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) ..... 21.02 - MA2200 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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100. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 21.03 - I9005 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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https://i.imgur.com/EmhUOMw.gif

Duarte
23-11-19, 05:26
How many samples do you get in total?

does it cost extra?

Hi Salento.

Now I get 125 samples. I pay $49.00 for this :useless:

Plus more samples from Medieval and Renaissance Italy including some visitors from Northern Europe. I already have Portuguese citizenship, but if MTA continues at this rate, I will claim Italian citizenship. LOL . :laughing:
Mausoleum of Augustus. I don’t know where is! :thinking:


1. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 6.899 - FN_2 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.629 - CL94- (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99 % match vs all users



4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.859 - I12034 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99 % match vs all users



5. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 9.945 - R33 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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6. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 9.948 - I3585 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98 % match vs all users



7. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.04 - I12514 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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8. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.34 - I12516 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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Cheers :smile:

Carlos
23-11-19, 05:34
https://i.imgur.com/EmhUOMw.gif


Wooowwwww!!!! You too



I really don't know what to say with all this, please I want everything to stay the same. Truly ... I don't know what to say.

torzio
23-11-19, 05:53
^^
Denisovan, that sounds very weird. LOL
Is there any convincing reconstruction?

Central asian to east asian......maybe mongols, lol

davef
23-11-19, 06:01
https://i.imgur.com/EmhUOMw.gif
You got 6 and change for a new Hellenic Roman! That's a nice fit

Carlos
23-11-19, 06:03
Central asian to east asian......maybe mongols, lol

How strange, well everything is possible, look what has happened to me; Although I already knew.

I take the post.

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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WtWaY1ZX6fE/XdisEA7VHaI/AAAAAAAABgg/Cqsvzz0GhcQ3GjArTwkPm0WkjZBVvyAdQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/imperialmausuleoR33.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vV2ykHRSxG0/XdisOQXUmAI/AAAAAAAABgo/N0yJHiaKI8wEkWyp48yoB5vrCqrQ2m79wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/LATEromanMIXcRYPTA.JPEG
Samples are too news for users comparations
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3FO1PowJoxk/XdithNXbbaI/AAAAAAAABg4/qKvSLi-850sXO34FEXgvlMqLD4sKSBd7gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/pcaPLOTnOVIEMBRE2019you.JPEG
Please, pinch me, am I dreaming?

I get a blue cross very close but they don't want to give it to me, who hides behind that blue cross without a name?

Jovialis
23-11-19, 07:16
Here are my top ten samples with their closest modern group. All of mine of either South Italian-like, or Abruzzo-like:

1. 6.842 - R1548 - South_Italian (7.818)
2. 8.579 - SZ40 - Italian_Abruzzo (9.743)
3. 8.682 - R65 - South_Italian (8.522)
4. 8.8 - R136 - Italian_Abruzzo (7.446)
5. 10.28 - CL38 - South_Italian (10.72)
6. 10.29 - R436 - Italian_Abruzzo (10.45)
7. 10.54 - R34 - South_Italian (8.682)
8. 10.81 - R114 - Italian_Abruzzo (7.069)
9. 10.87 - R133 - South_Italian (9.342)
10. 11.18 - CL121 - Italian_Abruzzo (6.302)

Salento
23-11-19, 07:51
1st 1548 (tonight, tomorrow ... :)

Top 15

https://i.imgur.com/vOE512L.png


Maps: Top 10 and Deep Dive:

https://i.imgur.com/IHsWe0i.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rdTOIUd.jpg

Salento
23-11-19, 08:03
Deep Dive:

https://i.imgur.com/4lRiXC7.jpg

Jovialis
23-11-19, 13:21
https://i.imgur.com/rQcDrdQ.png

Angela
23-11-19, 17:07
My overall genetic distance from ancient samples remains the same: Maybe I should refresh my recollection about the Illyrians. :)
Roman (3.568)
Roman + Illyrian (4.064)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (4.779)
Gallo-Roman (9.491)
Illyrian (10.35)

My new ten and unders: no change to my very top numbers, but the samples from Tuscany, and there are a lot of them, push down a lot of the rest. Interesting that I get what seems to be an Italo-Iberian convert to Islam, i.e. found in a Morisco context. So, all those speculations that some of the local population would have converted and remained faithful to their new religion were true.

Does anyone know if there are more to come?

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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2. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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9. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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10. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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11. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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12. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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13. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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14. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.07 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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16. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.15 - NS3b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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17. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.28 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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18. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 10.29 - I2515 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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19. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 10.44 - R57 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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20. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.53 - I12515 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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21. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 10.6 - R64 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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22. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 10.68 - R59 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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23. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 10.69 - R117 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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24. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.83 - SZ32 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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25. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 10.85 - I7424 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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Carlos
23-11-19, 18:47
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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9. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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10. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.46 - R105 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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11. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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12. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 11.72 - R63 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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13. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 11.94 - R1219 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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14. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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15. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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17. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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18. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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19. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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20. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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21. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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22. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 13.45 - CL57 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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23. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 13.46 - STR_535 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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24. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 13.46 - I3585 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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25. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 13.49 - I3238 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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26. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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27. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 13.64 - R473 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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28. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 13.81 - R1021 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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29. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 13.84 - R1289 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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30. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.88 - R116 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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31. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 13.89 - DA198 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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32. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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34. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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35. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 14.14 - I12879 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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36. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 14.25 - I12208 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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37. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 14.27 - I2416-BB - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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38. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.28 - scy197b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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39. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.42 - I3759 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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40. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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41. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 14.55 - PCA36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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42. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.59 - I2649 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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43. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.59 - I3758 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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44. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.61 - SI-40 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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45. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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46. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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47. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.64 - I12515 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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48. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 14.67 - MJ12 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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49. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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50. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 14.73 - I3777 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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51. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 14.75 - I12410 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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52. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.78 - I2472 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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53. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.87 - scy305 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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54. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 15.05 - R435 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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55. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.08 - scy192 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

56. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.24 - OBS137 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

57. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.28 - R61 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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89% match vs all users

58. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 15.36 - I2515 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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59. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 15.38 - I8209 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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60. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 15.54 - I7497 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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61. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.66 - scy311 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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62% match vs all users

62. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 15.68 - I8214 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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63. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 15.71 - I2478 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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64. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 15.77 - I7673 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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65. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 15.88 - R1015 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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66. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.95 - I12516 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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67. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.03 - I12644 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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68. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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69. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 16.23 - VAD001 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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70. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 16.3 - R1285 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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71. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 16.35 - LM_306_T - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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53% match vs all users

72. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 16.42 - I4332 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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73. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 16.42 - I5769 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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74. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 16.45 - I3982 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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75. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.49 - I2644 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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76. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 16.5 - AEH_1 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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77. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.58 - I7425 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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78. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 16.6 - I3493 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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79. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 16.61 - I12641 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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80. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 16.67 - I3327 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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81. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 16.7 - I2514 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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91% match vs all users

82. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 16.78 - scy304 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

83. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96% match vs all users

84. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

85. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 17.01 - I3321 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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65% match vs all users

87. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.12 - R37 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 17.17 - BIM33 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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68% match vs all users

89. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 17.36 - I12877 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.38 - CL47 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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46% match vs all users

91. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen (950 AD) ..... 17.48 - KT09 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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72% match vs all users

92. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.51 - R851 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.58 - I3981 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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92% match vs all users

95. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 17.6 - I1840 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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96. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 17.64 - OBS116 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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52% match vs all users

97. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 17.66 - VAD005 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 17.78 - I8203 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 17.94 - CL63 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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44% match vs all users

100. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.08 - Rise577 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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46% match vs all users

101. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 18.18 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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102. Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.33 - R1016 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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103. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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104. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 18.47 - VO10207 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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105. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 18.52 - DA195 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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84% match vs all users

106. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 18.56 - GTE-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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48% match vs all users

107. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 18.75 - R62 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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43% match vs all users

108. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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94% match vs all users

109. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 18.89 - DA111 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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93% match vs all users

110. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 18.92 - I2471 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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111. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 18.96 - I3776 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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112. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.01 - I2470 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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113. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.12 - I12647 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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114. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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47% match vs all users

115. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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44% match vs all users

116. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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117. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.78 - VAD004 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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118. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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119. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.86 - I7162 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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120. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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121. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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80% match vs all users

122. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 19.96 - I3874 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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123. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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124. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 19.97 - AED513 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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49% match vs all users

125. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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90% match vs all users

126. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 20.28 - G274 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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98% match vs all users

127. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 20.54 - I3757 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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128. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 20.68 - I3490 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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129. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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45% match vs all users

130. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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36% match vs all users

131. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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40% match vs all users

132. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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133. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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134. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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135. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe (1305 AD) ..... 21.39 - G397 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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52% match vs all users

136. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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137. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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33% match vs all users

138. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.51 - I5471 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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39% match vs all users

139. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

140. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.6 - SZ23 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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38% match vs all users

141. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.61 - I1388 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99% match vs all users

142. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 21.64 - MJ37 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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44% match vs all users

143. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.66 - ORE-A1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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43% match vs all users

144. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton (700 AD) ..... 21.66 - HinxtonO2 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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43% match vs all users

145. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 21.79 - I7424 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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83% match vs all users

146. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.86 - 3DRIF-16 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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41% match vs all users

147. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.96 - I3581 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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88% match vs all users

148. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 22.03 - R32 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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86% match vs all users

149. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 22.06 - LSD021 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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87% match vs all users

150. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) ..... 22.1 - MS10614 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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There has been a lot of new revenue both up and down the list. They made a first installment and after a second installment that was when I got gens julia.



I think they are very launched and will go for all entering samples.


I hope that zeus with rays treat us well and give us a good package of samples without having to pay again.


The € 19 maintenance may interest anyone who can or wants to pay them, but I don't think it will be very popular.

Salento
23-11-19, 18:54
https://i.imgur.com/rQcDrdQ.png

:thinking: We’re totally Romans :)

https://i.imgur.com/rdTOIUd.jpg


https://youtu.be/iy7RLVyCJOg

Carlos
23-11-19, 19:35
gens Iulia
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NB_0TmFsmhk/XdlsOOxgHQI/AAAAAAAABhE/kgp0vylGd4A04gN0D38DSUmQb6XMpYTqACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/mausoleoDEPdive.JPEG

16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33 -
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% match vs all users

148. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 22.03 - R32 -
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86
% match vs all users

"All we hear is an opinion, not a fact. ...
Marco Aurelio

lol

Angela
23-11-19, 19:56
I'm sorry, Carlos, but those samples don't come from the gens Julia.

They are the remains of normal people of the time buried NEAR the Mausoleum of Augustus. This is not like finding King Tut's tomb. :) We don't have the remains of any of the actual ruling families of Rome.

It's all in the Supplement of the original paper. This particular cemetery description is found on page 36.

"https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/suppl/2019/11/06/366.6466.708.DC1/aay6826_Antonio_SM.pdf"

My relationship to that cemetery:

26. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 11.57 - R32 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users

My husband's:
3. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 6.653 - R30 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
% match vs all users


Btw, Marcus Aurelius has nothing to do with the Gens Julia.

My husband is one of his greatest admirers. Still has his "Meditations" from university, and reads it.

Carlos
23-11-19, 20:11
I'm sorry, Carlos, but those samples don't come from the gens Julia.

They are the remains of normal people of the time buried NEAR the Mausoleum of Augustus. This is not like finding King Tut's tomb. :) We don't have the remains of any of the actual ruling families of Rome.

It's all in the Supplement of the original paper. This particular cemetery description is found on page 36.

"https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/suppl/2019/11/06/366.6466.708.DC1/aay6826_Antonio_SM.pdf"

My relationship to that cemetery:

26. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 11.57 - R32 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

My husband's:
3. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 6.653 - R30 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users


Btw, Marcus Aurelius has nothing to do with the Gens Julia.

My husband is one of his greatest admirers. Still has his "Meditations" from university, and reads it.


It cannot be known.


It is an appointment of an author not related to the entire post, it is understood.

Angela
23-11-19, 20:26
It cannot be known.


It is an appointment of an author not related to the entire post, it is understood.

Sorry, Carlos. I know it's a disappointment, but it indeed can be known. The remains of a big group of people were found buried in the walls with almost no grave goods at all.

That's NOT how an emperor would be buried. His remains would have been in the Mausoleum, not inside the walls nears it, and he wouldn't have been put in a grave with "regular" Romans.

Not to say that his genetics wouldn't have been similar, of course. He had Plebeian as well as Patrician ancestors, as did many members of prominent Patrician gens of the time. Wealth was a great leveler, as was the case with the English aristocracy, for example.

It's just that there's no way we'll ever now how close he might have been to this particular genetic signature.

Regio X
23-11-19, 20:42
Some of these shared segments are perhaps just IBS, non-IBD, with certain allowence of errors? Others could be real IBDs, but generally up to 3 cM for ancient blocks, I guess. Well, matching criteria may vary according to the tool. Still, these shared segments may point to certain particular genetic similarities, informative of (shared) ancestry. IBD sharing (recent/ancient blocks) is naturally used for tracking relations, even ancient, and anyone can Google it. There's a lot of stuff about.
That said, while I agree it's unlikely that large IBD segments survive for so many generations, it's not correct to assume segments will always be divided by two each generation. There's a limited number of crossover events which occur in each pair of human chromosomes - in somewhat random locations. The average is 2.5. Males tend to have less than females.
Figure 7 in the following paper shows an interesting representation of grandparents inheritance:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/194837v1.full

You may also inherit virtually an entire chromosome from a grandparent. This related article is interesting, and easy to understand:
https://dna-explained.com/2017/11/09/concepts-dna-recombination-and-crossovers

So, for example, if you inherited certain segment of DNA from a far ancestor, it's still possible you'll pass this same segment virtually intact to your child, and not necessarily half of it. Large segments naturally tend to be fragmented in few generations though.
I think this may help to understand some variations:
https://secureservercdn.net/184.168.47.225/35b.ded.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Relationship_Chart_FINAL_August_2017-1024x526.jpg

Or better:
https://gcbias.org/2013/11/11/how-does-your-number-of-genetic-ancestors-grow-back-over-time/amp/
(notice the same range in 10th and 11th generation: 0 to 1.5%).

The text below was posted by member mlukas in this thread, mentioning 23andMe user RandalGibbs. I'm a layman, but it seems to make sense based on what I read so far on the subject:


1 cM by definition is the length of DNA that has a 1% chance of recombination during meiosis. For longer segments you can estimate the chance of recombination in a single generation based on the cM length. For example a 20cM segment has about an 80% chance of remaining intact and a 20% chance of being recombined. (It's not exactly 80/20 because it could have multiple recombinations). If the segment remains intact, there is a 50/50 chance it is passed down. For a 20cM segment of your parent's DNA, there is about a 40% chance you'll get the whole thing, 40% you'll get none of it and 20% it will recombine and you'll only get part of it.Obviously each generation decreases the likelihood of getting an intact segment of over 20cM from an ancestor. I could imagine a segment of that size surviving recombination for many generations, perhaps a few hundred years, but can't see how it would survive for thousands of year.

I wrote a recombination simulator. It is the first step in a project I may never finish to estimate the amount of DNA that should be shared by relatives based not only on the relationship, but by the number of males and females in the relationship path. (There is less recombination in males than females. You get 50% from each set of grandparents, but are likely to have fewer but longer paternal segments while you have more but shorter maternal segments).
I just ran my simulator a few times and the longest segment that it showed surviving 100 generations (roughly 3000 years) was about 7cM. I got quite a few segments 4-6cM and a few over 7cM, but none that were 8cM. I can't see how some of the images above are correct showing a segment over 20cM shared with someone who lived 3000 years, like shown in the first 2 images above (2450BC, 2500BC) That doesn't seem plausible to me.
(It was in a different context. That time MyTrueAncestry was showing way larger IBD segments, but later the tool was updated.)
So 4-6 cM wouldn't be that absurd, according to the above.

@Duarte
Yes, pedigree collapse is also relevant. It's worth reading about it.

Angela
23-11-19, 20:52
Some of these shared segments are perhaps just IBS, non-IBD, with certain allowence of errors? Others could be real IBDs, but generally up to 3 cM for ancient blocks, I guess. Well, matching criteria may vary according to the tool. Still, these shared segments may point to certain particular genetic similarities, informative of (shared) ancestry. IBD sharing (recent/ancient blocks) is naturally used for tracking relations, even ancient, and anyone can Google it. There's a lot of stuff about.
That said, while I agree it's unlikely that large IBD segments survive for so many generations, it's not correct to assume segments will always be divided by two each generation. There's a limited number of crossover events which occur in each pair of human chromosomes - in somewhat random locations. The average is 2.5. Males tend to have less than females.
Figure 7 in the following paper shows an interesting representation of grandparents inheritance:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/194837v1.full

You may also inherit virtually an entire chromosome from a grandparent. This related article is interesting, and easy to understand:
https://dna-explained.com/2017/11/09/concepts-dna-recombination-and-crossovers

So, for example, if you inherited certain segment of DNA from a far ancestor, it's still possible you'll pass this same segment virtually intact to your child, and not necessarily half of it. Large segments naturally tend to be fragmented in few generations though.
I think this may help to understand some variations:
https://secureservercdn.net/184.168.47.225/35b.ded.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Relationship_Chart_FINAL_August_2017-1024x526.jpg

Or better:
https://gcbias.org/2013/11/11/how-does-your-number-of-genetic-ancestors-grow-back-over-time/amp/
(notice the same range in 10th and 11th generation: 0 to 1.5%).

The text below was posted by member mlukas in this thread, mentioning 23andMe user RandalGibbs. I'm a layman, but it seems to make sense based on what I read so far on the subject:


(It was in a different context. That time MyTrueAncestry was showing way larger IBD segments, but later the tool was updated.)
So 4-6 cM wouldn't be that absurd, according to the above.

@Duarte
Yes, pedigree collapse is also relevant. It's worth reading about it.

Excellent information, Regio.

Carlos
23-11-19, 22:11
Sorry, Carlos. I know it's a disappointment, but it indeed can be known. The remains of a big group of people were found buried in the walls with almost no grave goods at all.

That's NOT how an emperor would be buried. His remains would have been in the Mausoleum, not inside the walls nears it, and he wouldn't have been put in a grave with "regular" Romans.

Not to say that his genetics wouldn't have been similar, of course. He had Plebeian as well as Patrician ancestors, as did many members of prominent Patrician gens of the time. Wealth was a great leveler, as was the case with the English aristocracy, for example.

It's just that there's no way we'll ever now how close he might have been to this particular genetic signature.

I was fantasizing.


But who knows if someone to protect some important remains by social status had camouflaged them in a simpler appearance, it may have happened, I do not mean these specific samples that could be, but I remember reading something like this a long time ago.

Salento
24-11-19, 02:52
Silver Denarius - Empress Faustina Jr. AD 147 - 175/6
(Wife of Marcus Aurelius)

https://i.imgur.com/4Sm3lkv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kbPfhZ9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jRnLPK0.jpg

davef
24-11-19, 02:58
Silver Denarius - Empress Faustina Jr. AD 147 - 175/6
(Wife of Marcus Aurelius)

https://i.imgur.com/4Sm3lkv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kbPfhZ9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jRnLPK0.jpg
Wow is that yours?

Salento
24-11-19, 03:01
Wow is that yours?

yes, I posted it before :)

https://i.imgur.com/E5Hbvf3.jpg

Carlos
24-11-19, 03:06
Roman Empress of Cordoba origin
Faustina the Minor. The young woman, whose family was a native of Espejo, married Emperor Marco Aurelio, who at her death consecrated her and founded a charity in her honor.

In fact he wrote me a very beautiful poetry for Christmas that said:


If you see an old woman and it's Good Night, tell her to come to your house.


It was recorded forever.

Salento
24-11-19, 03:55
Roman Empress of Cordoba origin
Faustina the Minor. The young woman, whose family was a native of Espejo, married Emperor Marco Aurelio, who at her death consecrated her and founded a charity in her honor.

In fact he wrote me a very beautiful poetry for Christmas that said:


If you see an old woman and it's Good Night, tell her to come to your house.


It was recorded forever.

She was born in Rome,

her great uncle, the emperor Hadrian, ...born in Italica, Hispania Baetica, into a Hispano-Italic family that settled in Spain from the Italian city of Atri in Picenum.


Mauseleo Augusto, many Villas, these people must have been loaded :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/5G1DDrP.jpg

Duarte
24-11-19, 03:59
Ancient relatives - Ancient Roman Samples - Only matches with "R"samples:


https://i.imgur.com/IPuljQG.png
https://i.imgur.com/at4Isiz.png
https://i.imgur.com/PAPDm0M.png
https://i.imgur.com/EVyMWA3.png
https://i.imgur.com/dM4M8iG.png
https://i.imgur.com/lMCFbdP.png

https://i.imgur.com/4BXbf8z.png




@Duarte
Yes, pedigree collapse is also relevant. It's worth reading about it.
@Regio X:

Thanks for the tip of theme for reading, Regio (pedigree collapse). In fact, in the traditional Minas Gerais family (I don't like this term, but I can't find another one to use right now) endogamy was an usual practice.

Carlos
24-11-19, 09:59
She was born in Rome,

her great uncle, the emperor Hadrian, ...born in Italica, Hispania Baetica, into a Hispano-Italic family that settled in Spain from the Italian city of Atri in Picenum.


Mauseleo Augusto, many Villas, these people must have been loaded :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/5G1DDrP.jpg

It would be great if that were the case.



Duarte

Ancient relatives - Ancient Roman Samples - Only matches with "R"samples:

It has any meaning?

Stuvanè
24-11-19, 10:47
With this army of new samples Curiosity got the upper hand and I gave in, upgrading to the Zeus level ;)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
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2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
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4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
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5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
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6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
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7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
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8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
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9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
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10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
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11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
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12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
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13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
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14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
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15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
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16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
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17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
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18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
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19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
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21. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
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22. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
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94% match vs all users

24. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
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25. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
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26. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
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29. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
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30. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
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31. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 13.95 - SI-53 -
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32. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
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33. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
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34. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
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35. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.38 - SI-41 -
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36. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
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94% match vs all users

37. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.54 - R56 -
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38. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 14.62 - LSD021 - ?
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97% match vs all users

39. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
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40. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
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41. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
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42. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.99 - CL57 -
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43. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 15.11 - R121 -
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44. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
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45. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.35 - I7499 -
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46. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 15.54 - R1287 -
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47. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.54 - I2644
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48. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 15.61 - I3585 -
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49. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.63 - R54 -
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50. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 15.79 - I3982 -
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51. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 15.81 - SZ19 -
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52. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 15.87 - R111 -
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53. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 15.9 - R58 -
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54. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 16.04 - I3581 -
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55. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 16.06 - R1283 -
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56. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.08 - I12644 -
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57. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.38 - R136 -
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58. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 16.39 - R47 -
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59. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 16.42 - I7498 -
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60. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.48 - R131 -
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61. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.54 - SZ45 -
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62. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.54 - R49 -
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93% match vs all users

63. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 16.55 - CL94 -
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64. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 16.57 - I4332 -
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65. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 16.57 - I5769 -
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66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
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67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
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68. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 17.07 - R836 -
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69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
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70. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 17.32 - I3576 -
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71. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 17.6 - I12514 -
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72. Imperial Rome San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.66 - R122 -
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73. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 17.68 - AEH_1 - ?
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74. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.76 - R120 -
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75. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R30 -
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76. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 17.9 - R55 -
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77. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
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78. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1548 -
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79. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 18.22 - I12031 -
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80. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
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94% match vs all users

81. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 18.46 - R33 -
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82. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 18.63 - SZ40 - ?
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83. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 18.75 - R436 -
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84. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 18.85 - R1285 -
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85. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.91 - CL63 - ?
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86. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 18.95 - R50 -
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87. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 18.97 - I3983 -
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88. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 19.08 - R113 -
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89. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.22 - SZ18 -
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90. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 19.25 - R65 -
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91. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 19.38 - I3980 -
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92. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 19.42 - R118 -
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93% match vs all users

93. Central Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 19.5 - R1544 -
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93% match vs all users

94. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
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93% match vs all users

95. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.83 - I2649
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85% match vs all users

96. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.92 - I2647
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90% match vs all users

97. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 19.94 - R105 -
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91% match vs all users

98. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 20.06 - AED_1108 - ?
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39% match vs all users

99. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 20.15 - MJ12 -
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90% match vs all users

100. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 20.33 - scy311 -
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https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/76999023_449970279039430_5077626099584729088_n.png ?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=qZxXVQqqFSIAQlGa4sfCaMhUnyKQqpq24yM36hzoBe sbcGf_M223-1H5Q&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=7e19d0bc2b068e6494d9688bec2a38ee&oe=5E43A96E


https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=xawrvnsinu&s=dd

Carlos
24-11-19, 11:15
101. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 18.18 - NS3c - ?
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102. Latin Tribe Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.33 - R1016 -
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99% match vs all users

103. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675 -
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99% match vs all users

104. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 18.47 - VO10207
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99% match vs all users

105. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 18.52 - DA195 -
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84% match vs all users

106. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 18.56 - GTE-A1 -
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48% match vs all users

107. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 18.75 - R62 -
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43% match vs all users

108. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111 -
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94% match vs all users

109. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 18.89 - DA111 -
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93% match vs all users

110. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 18.92 - I2471 -
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99% match vs all users

111. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 18.96 - I3776 -
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99% match vs all users

112. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.01 - I2470 -
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99% match vs all users

113. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.12 - I12647 -
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90% match vs all users

114. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199 -
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47% match vs all users

115. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 -
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44% match vs all users

116. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -
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40% match vs all users

117. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.78 - VAD004 -
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99% match vs all users

118. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647
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90% match vs all users

119. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.86 - I7162 -
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99% match vs all users

120. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 - ?
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40% match vs all users

121. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 - ?
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80% match vs all users

122. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 19.96 - I3874 -
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60% match vs all users

123. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 - ?
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37% match vs all users

124. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 19.97 - AED513 - ?
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49% match vs all users

125. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 -
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90% match vs all users

126. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 20.28 - G274 -
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98% match vs all users

127. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 20.54 - I3757 -
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99% match vs all users

128. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 20.68 - I3490 -
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99% match vs all users

129. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 -
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45% match vs all users

130. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 -
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36% match vs all users

131. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 -
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40% match vs all users

132. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 -
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95% match vs all users

133. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 -
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98% match vs all users

134. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 -
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99% match vs all users

135. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe (1305 AD) ..... 21.39 - G397 -
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52% match vs all users

136. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 -
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99% match vs all users

137. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 -
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33% match vs all users

138. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.51 - I5471 -
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39% match vs all users

139. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 -
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86% match vs all users

140. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.6 - SZ23 -
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38% match vs all users

141. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.61 - I1388 -
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99% match vs all users

142. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 21.64 - MJ37 -
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44% match vs all users

143. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.66 - ORE-A1 -
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43% match vs all users

144. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton (700 AD) ..... 21.66 - HinxtonO2 -
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43% match vs all users

145. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 21.79 - I7424 -
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83% match vs all users

146. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.86 - 3DRIF-16 -
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41% match vs all users

147. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.96 - I3581 -
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88% match vs all users

148. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 22.03 - R32 -
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86% match vs all users

149. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 22.06 - LSD021 - ?
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87% match vs all users

150. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) ..... 22.1 - MS10614 - ?
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96% match vs all users

The 50 revealed. Some had already seen them from the beginning and others have been new. A reserve for the future of new samples. There may be more distance but sometimes you could also get segments of them.

Duarte
24-11-19, 14:00
Duarte
It has any meaning?


Good morning dear friend Carlos.
I agree with Salento:


She was born in Rome,


her great uncle, the emperor Hadrian, ...born in Italica, Hispania Baetica, into a Hispano-Italic family that settled in Spain from the Italian city of Atri in Picenum.


Mauseleo Augusto, many Villas, these people must have been loaded :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/5G1DDrP.jpg

In fact, there are nobles buried there and, as you said, It would be great if that were the case of relatives of Faustina the Minor buried there. The local was abandoned for a long time and even was used as a dumping ground and the vegetation grew uncontrollably. Bellow is desbibed it's history:

“The Mausoleum of Augustus (Italian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language): Mausoleo di Augusto) is a large tomb built by the Roman Emperor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Emperor)Augustus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus) in 28 BC on the Campus Martius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_Martius) in Rome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome), Italy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy). The mausoleum is located on the Piazza Augusto Imperatore, near the corner with Via di Ripetta as it runs along the Tiber (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiber_river). The grounds cover an area equivalent to a few city blocks nestled between the church of San Carlo al Corso (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Carlo_al_Corso) and the Museum of the Ara Pacis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Pacis). The mausoleum is currently in the process of a restoration, upon which it will open to the public.

The mausoleum was one of the first projects initiated by Augustus in the city of Rome following his victory at the Battle of Actium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Actium) in 31 BC. The mausoleum was circular in plan, consisting of several concentric rings of earth and brick, faced with travertine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travertine) on the exterior, and planted with cypresses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupressus_sempervirens) on the top tier. The whole structure was capped (possibly, as reconstructions are unsure at best) by a conical roof and a huge bronze statue of Augustus.
Vaults held up the roof and opened up the burial spaces below. Twin pink granite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite)obelisks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisks) flanked the arched entryway; these have been removed; one now stands at the Piazza dell'Esquilino (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_dell%27Esquilino) (on the northwest side of the Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_Maggiore)) and the other at the Quirinal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirinal) fountain. The completed mausoleum measured 90 m (295 ft) in diameter by 42 m (137 ft) in height.

A corridor ran from the entryway into the heart of the mausoleum, where there was a chamber with three niches to hold the golden urns enshrining the ashes of the Imperial Family. Two pillars flanking the entrance were mounted with bronze plaques inscribed with the Res Gestae Divi Augusti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_Gestae_Divi_Augusti), the document describing Augustus' accomplishments and victories.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Augustus#cite_note-3) Surrounding the mausoleum was landscaped parkland akin to modern public parks, affording a place of retreat at the heart of Rome's heavily urbanized Campus Martius.

The traditional story is that in 410, during the sack of Rome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(410)) by Alaric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaric_I), the pillaging Visigoths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigoths) rifled the vaults, stole the urns and scattered the ashes, without damaging the structure of the building. Platner and Ashby, however, posited that "The story of its plundering by Alaric in 410 has no historical foundation, and we know nothing of its destruction".

By the end of the 10th century, the mausoleum had become largely buried under earth and overgrown with trees, to the point where it was referred to as the Mons Augustus. A legend of the time referred to a supposed decree by Augustus who ordered that a basketful of earth from every province of the empire was to be thrown upon his tomb, so that he could rest on the soil of the whole world over which he ruled.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Augustus#cite_note-6) Atop the Mausoleum stood a chapel built to the Archangel Michael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel)), while alongside was the Church of Santa Maria (or perhaps Martina) in Augusto (later transformed into San Giacomo degli Incurabili (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Giacomo_degli_Incurabili)).

By the 12th Century, the tumulus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumulus) was fortified as a castle— as was the mausoleum of Hadrian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian), which was turned into the Castel Sant'Angelo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Sant%27Angelo)— and occupied by the Colonna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonna) family. After the disastrous defeat of the Commune of Rome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune_of_Rome) at the hands of the Count of Tusculum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Tusculum) in 1167, the Colonna were disgraced and banished, and their fortification in the Campo was dismantled. Throughout the Renaissance it passed through the ownership of several major Roman families, who used it as a garden; at the beginning of the 19th century it was in use as a circus.

In the early 20th century, the interior of the Mausoleum was used as a concert hall called the Augusteo, until Mussolini ordered it closed in the 1930s and restored it to the status of an archaeological site. The restoration of the Mausoleum of Augustus to a place of prominence featured in Benito Mussolini (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini)'s ambitious reordering of the city of Rome which strove to connect the aspirations of Italian Fascism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism) with the former glories of the Roman Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire). Mussolini viewed himself especially connected to the achievements of Augustus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus), seeing himself as a 'reborn Augustus' ready to usher in a new age of Italian dominance.

In January 2017, Italian authorities announced that due to a €6 million grant from Telecom Italia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_Italia) the Mausoleum of Augustus would receive a comprehensive restoration that will allow it to open to the public for the first time since the 1970s. When the Mausoleum opens in April 2019 it will be fully restored and incorporate a multi-media exhibition that will project images of modern and ancient Rome onto the interior walls of the structure.

An earlier intention to restore the Mausoleum in time to commemorate the 2,000th anniversary of Augustus' death in 2014 failed due to funding shortfalls. The neglect of the Mausoleum, closed to the public, overgrown with vegetation and used as a dumping ground for litter, had long attracted criticism, especially after the opening of the Ara Pacis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Pacis) museum across the street in 2006.

Buried inside:

Included among those whose remains were laid inside the mausoleum before the death of Augustus were:


Marcus Claudius Marcellus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Claudius_Marcellus_(Julio-Claudian_dynasty)) (who was the first to be buried there, in 23 BC),
Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Vipsanius_Agrippa) in 12 BC,
Nero Claudius Drusus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Claudius_Drusus) in 9 BC,
Octavia Minor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_Minor) (the sister of Augustus) in 9 or 11 BC,
Gaius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Caesar) and Lucius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Caesar), grandsons and heirs of Augustus.

After the death of Augustus, the mausoleum hosted the ashes of:”


Germanicus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanicus),
Drusus Julius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusus_Julius_Caesar) (son of Tiberius),
Livia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livia) (wife of Augustus),
Agrippina the Elder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrippina_the_Elder),
Julia Livilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Livilla) (daughter of Germanicus),
Nero Julius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Julius_Caesar),
Drusus Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusus_Caesar) (son of Germanicus),
Tiberius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius),
Antonia Minor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonia_Minor) (mother of Claudius),
Caligula (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula),
Julia Drusilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Drusilla_(daughter_of_Caligula)) (daughter of Caligula)
Claudius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius),
Britannicus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannicus) (son of Claudius),
Nerva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva), the last emperor for whom the mausoleum was opened.


On the other hand, about my matches, what I could notice is that, according to the PCA posted on the Moots: Ancient Rome Paper (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39501-Moots-Ancient-Rome-Paper) in Paleogenetics (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/forums/222-Paleogenetics) thread, all my samples of ancient relatives are genetically in northern Italy, pending toward the side of Iberian Peninsula, especially the samples of the Etruscans.

https://i.imgur.com/6VFAaEg.jpg


Ancient relatives - Ancient Roman Samples - Only matches with "R"samples:


https://i.imgur.com/IPuljQG.png
https://i.imgur.com/at4Isiz.png
https://i.imgur.com/PAPDm0M.png
https://i.imgur.com/EVyMWA3.png
https://i.imgur.com/dM4M8iG.png
https://i.imgur.com/lMCFbdP.png

https://i.imgur.com/4BXbf8z.png

Carlos
24-11-19, 15:02
My samples are also the same type R

Angela
24-11-19, 15:42
Good morning dear friend Carlos.
I agree with Salento:



In fact, there are nobles buried there and, as you said, It would be great if that were the case of relatives of Faustina the Minor buried there. The local was abandoned for a long time and even was used as a dumping ground and the vegetation grew uncontrollably. Bellow is desbibed it's history:

“The Mausoleum of Augustus (Italian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language): Mausoleo di Augusto) is a large tomb built by the Roman Emperor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Emperor)Augustus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus) in 28 BC on the Campus Martius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_Martius) in Rome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome), Italy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy). The mausoleum is located on the Piazza Augusto Imperatore, near the corner with Via di Ripetta as it runs along the Tiber (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiber_river). The grounds cover an area equivalent to a few city blocks nestled between the church of San Carlo al Corso (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Carlo_al_Corso) and the Museum of the Ara Pacis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Pacis). The mausoleum is currently in the process of a restoration, upon which it will open to the public.

The mausoleum was one of the first projects initiated by Augustus in the city of Rome following his victory at the Battle of Actium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Actium) in 31 BC. The mausoleum was circular in plan, consisting of several concentric rings of earth and brick, faced with travertine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travertine) on the exterior, and planted with cypresses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupressus_sempervirens) on the top tier. The whole structure was capped (possibly, as reconstructions are unsure at best) by a conical roof and a huge bronze statue of Augustus.
Vaults held up the roof and opened up the burial spaces below. Twin pink granite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite)obelisks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisks) flanked the arched entryway; these have been removed; one now stands at the Piazza dell'Esquilino (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_dell%27Esquilino) (on the northwest side of the Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_Maggiore)) and the other at the Quirinal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirinal) fountain. The completed mausoleum measured 90 m (295 ft) in diameter by 42 m (137 ft) in height.

A corridor ran from the entryway into the heart of the mausoleum, where there was a chamber with three niches to hold the golden urns enshrining the ashes of the Imperial Family. Two pillars flanking the entrance were mounted with bronze plaques inscribed with the Res Gestae Divi Augusti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_Gestae_Divi_Augusti), the document describing Augustus' accomplishments and victories.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Augustus#cite_note-3) Surrounding the mausoleum was landscaped parkland akin to modern public parks, affording a place of retreat at the heart of Rome's heavily urbanized Campus Martius.

The traditional story is that in 410, during the sack of Rome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(410)) by Alaric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaric_I), the pillaging Visigoths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigoths) rifled the vaults, stole the urns and scattered the ashes, without damaging the structure of the building. Platner and Ashby, however, posited that "The story of its plundering by Alaric in 410 has no historical foundation, and we know nothing of its destruction".

By the end of the 10th century, the mausoleum had become largely buried under earth and overgrown with trees, to the point where it was referred to as the Mons Augustus. A legend of the time referred to a supposed decree by Augustus who ordered that a basketful of earth from every province of the empire was to be thrown upon his tomb, so that he could rest on the soil of the whole world over which he ruled.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Augustus#cite_note-6) Atop the Mausoleum stood a chapel built to the Archangel Michael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel)), while alongside was the Church of Santa Maria (or perhaps Martina) in Augusto (later transformed into San Giacomo degli Incurabili (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Giacomo_degli_Incurabili)).

By the 12th Century, the tumulus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumulus) was fortified as a castle— as was the mausoleum of Hadrian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian), which was turned into the Castel Sant'Angelo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Sant%27Angelo)— and occupied by the Colonna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonna) family. After the disastrous defeat of the Commune of Rome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune_of_Rome) at the hands of the Count of Tusculum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Tusculum) in 1167, the Colonna were disgraced and banished, and their fortification in the Campo was dismantled. Throughout the Renaissance it passed through the ownership of several major Roman families, who used it as a garden; at the beginning of the 19th century it was in use as a circus.

In the early 20th century, the interior of the Mausoleum was used as a concert hall called the Augusteo, until Mussolini ordered it closed in the 1930s and restored it to the status of an archaeological site. The restoration of the Mausoleum of Augustus to a place of prominence featured in Benito Mussolini (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini)'s ambitious reordering of the city of Rome which strove to connect the aspirations of Italian Fascism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism) with the former glories of the Roman Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire). Mussolini viewed himself especially connected to the achievements of Augustus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus), seeing himself as a 'reborn Augustus' ready to usher in a new age of Italian dominance.

In January 2017, Italian authorities announced that due to a €6 million grant from Telecom Italia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_Italia) the Mausoleum of Augustus would receive a comprehensive restoration that will allow it to open to the public for the first time since the 1970s. When the Mausoleum opens in April 2019 it will be fully restored and incorporate a multi-media exhibition that will project images of modern and ancient Rome onto the interior walls of the structure.

An earlier intention to restore the Mausoleum in time to commemorate the 2,000th anniversary of Augustus' death in 2014 failed due to funding shortfalls. The neglect of the Mausoleum, closed to the public, overgrown with vegetation and used as a dumping ground for litter, had long attracted criticism, especially after the opening of the Ara Pacis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Pacis) museum across the street in 2006.

Buried inside:

Included among those whose remains were laid inside the mausoleum before the death of Augustus were:


Marcus Claudius Marcellus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Claudius_Marcellus_(Julio-Claudian_dynasty)) (who was the first to be buried there, in 23 BC),
Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Vipsanius_Agrippa) in 12 BC,
Nero Claudius Drusus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Claudius_Drusus) in 9 BC,
Octavia Minor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_Minor) (the sister of Augustus) in 9 or 11 BC,
Gaius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Caesar) and Lucius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Caesar), grandsons and heirs of Augustus.

After the death of Augustus, the mausoleum hosted the ashes of:”


Germanicus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanicus),
Drusus Julius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusus_Julius_Caesar) (son of Tiberius),
Livia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livia) (wife of Augustus),
Agrippina the Elder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrippina_the_Elder),
Julia Livilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Livilla) (daughter of Germanicus),
Nero Julius Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Julius_Caesar),
Drusus Caesar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusus_Caesar) (son of Germanicus),
Tiberius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius),
Antonia Minor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonia_Minor) (mother of Claudius),
Caligula (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula),
Julia Drusilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Drusilla_(daughter_of_Caligula)) (daughter of Caligula)
Claudius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius),
Britannicus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannicus) (son of Claudius),
Nerva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva), the last emperor for whom the mausoleum was opened.


On the other hand, about my matches, what I could notice is that, according to the PCA posted on the Moots: Ancient Rome Paper (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39501-Moots-Ancient-Rome-Paper) in Paleogenetics (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/forums/222-Paleogenetics) thread, all my samples of ancient relatives are genetically in northern Italy, pending toward the side of Iberian Peninsula, especially the samples of the Etruscans.

https://i.imgur.com/6VFAaEg.jpg

I'm sorry. I think there's some confusion here. The samples studied in the recent paper don't come from the Mausoleum. The bones in the mausoleum were scattered and lost to history.

The samples are labeled Mausoleo Augusto because they were found in the ancient wall NEAR the mausoleum. I explained all of this upthread and provided the link to the Supplement of the Antonio et al paper where it is discussed.

As to your matches, it seems you do get matches to ancient people like Etruscans and others who would plot in today's Northern Italy. However, you also seem to get a lot of matches to these new Imperial Roman and Late Antiquity samples as well. Many of them do not plot in Northern Italy. Many of them wouldn't even plot in modern Lazio. They plot in Southern Italy.

Rome is in Lazio, which is not Northern Italy. Lazio is central Italy both geographically and genetically. (I'm talking modern Lazio, because you were drawing a comparison to modern Northern Italy.) Just south of it, before you even get out of the borders of Lazio (probably due to changes Mussolini made to the borders) you're in Southern Italy genetically. The Abruzzi are, of course, Southern Italy. The actual genetic break in Italy is immediately south of Rome.

Some people don't even include Tuscany in Northern Italy despite the fact that genetically it is closer to it than to geographically Central Italian provinces like Umbria and Marche.



I know this seems arcane, but the divisions are real genetically and culturally.

Northern Italy is partly defined linguistically. It is where the dialects are what used to be called Gallo-Italian. The genetics do match it very well.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-buli8L_Nb-o/UEU3PbmKBuI/AAAAAAAAAOE/v3az4hlCxWA/s1600/cisalpine_galu_and_laspezia-rimini_line.png

Regio X
24-11-19, 16:21
I'm sorry. I think there's some confusion here. The samples studied in the recent paper don't come from the Mausoleum. The bones in the mausoleum were scattered and lost to history.
The samples are labeled Mausoleo Augusto because they were found in the ancient wall NEAR the mausoleum. I explained all of this upthread and provided the link to the Supplement of the Antonio et al paper where it is discussed.
As to your matches, it seems you do get matches to ancient people like Etruscans and others who would plot in today's Northern Italy. However, you also seem to get a lot of matches to these new Imperial Roman and Late Antiquity samples as well. Many of them do not plot in Northern Italy. Many of them wouldn't even plot in modern Lazio. They plot in Southern Italy.
Rome is in Lazio, which is not Northern Italy. Lazio is central Italy both geographically and genetically. (I'm talking modern Lazio, because you were drawing a comparison to modern Northern Italy.) Just south of it, before you even get out of the borders of Lazio (probably due to changes Mussolini made to the borders) you're in Southern Italy genetically. The Abruzzi are, of course, Southern Italy. The actual genetic break in Italy is immediately south of Rome.
Some people don't even include Tuscany in Northern Italy despite the fact that genetically it is closer to it than to geographically Central Italian provinces like Umbria and Marche.
I know this seems arcane, but the divisions are real genetically and culturally.
Northern Italy is partly defined linguistically. It is where the dialects are what used to be called Gallo-Italian. The genetics do match it very well.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-buli8L_Nb-o/UEU3PbmKBuI/AAAAAAAAAOE/v3az4hlCxWA/s1600/cisalpine_galu_and_laspezia-rimini_line.pngGrazie. :)
Perhaps the below helps to represent the "position" of the Abruzzi compared to other regions'.

http://secher.bernard.free.fr/blog/public/2018_Raveane_Figure1B.jpg
http://secher.bernard.free.fr/blog/public/2018_Raveane_Figure1C.jpg

Carlos
24-11-19, 17:37
I have opened these two samples of the mausoleum with which I obtained correspondence to see what was there.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VclS3xUUzQ0/Xdp_uAchOvI/AAAAAAAABhQ/8HHR1yAEJ0Me1EflR_REkbZGEJ2lH-3FgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR32.JPEG
mtDNA: H2a1
Y-DNA: I-CTS616


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kuFqBlO0vp8/Xdp_xEuljiI/AAAAAAAABhU/eYDrH1FzwXIRHGvAwKYQ2qNwVaD-3zAdQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR32modernGroup.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E5iEVrGuH4g/XdqDRD9VAyI/AAAAAAAABho/KtPfTi-fPHAJEVe8DruAK5qo2ww2W5lwACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/mausuleoR32AugustoPCA%2Bancient.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ig0-JDP2xaY/XdqDTUbwoWI/AAAAAAAABhs/vHJZHNonsMke74LpUsUuMB7gwGp21lFoQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/mausuleoR32AugustoPCAmodern.JPEG

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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aVbl0HDqUnc/XdqDXtyklPI/AAAAAAAABhw/cM5aFXcxJuYDD2Zf4aNJ50ZXeHj2xF_iACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR33ancient.group.JPEG
mtDNA: H

Y-DNA: J-M12

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b4y_EVTaU2o/XdqDdGKlPtI/AAAAAAAABh0/S90KSPP8SycVLOcsP-S41rzfiXk9TtvgwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR33modernGroup.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0vmlQF_pO1U/XdqDidXTpkI/AAAAAAAABh8/YZHLWioXES4pvO_-ZQnH4oSG8VHUlSvKACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR33SIMILARsamples.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MzHS2-cOF1s/XdqlCnlMG8I/AAAAAAAABio/DVYBaFnA9Uw9acgN3DhlDDQ2ACrp2q94wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR33PCAancient.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tbdPkvCAUSo/XdqlFpcjoxI/AAAAAAAABis/CzmCbxmNxD4vw1Q1PQJOX2euk1GYovc3gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MausoleoR33PCAMODERN.JPEG

See Iberian Cordoba Caliphate

45. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 -
mtDNA: H3a1
Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--c6yzgxp-bI/XdqnPNfb9XI/AAAAAAAABi4/AEk6obNSvncw_8rP0HwOJ5aZ_A-NrI4xQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/IBERIANcordobaCalifatoPCAmodern.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AgiLl3v7E5w/Xdqnwz0P3TI/AAAAAAAABjA/W4A7Q6mAZLYu1bUJD6etB4C7Id251kc8wCLcBGAsYHQ/w945-h600-p-k-no-nu/IBERIANcordobaCalifatoPCAancient.JPEG


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RmXa6O4lPwA/Xdqq7kaxueI/AAAAAAAABjU/k73RKbptbhwX4pdRMqL_in69S0zxLCvywCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/portugueseCordobacaliphate.JPEG
mtDNA: HV0+195

Y-DNA: J2a



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_lj8dDZu1Ys/Xdqqz5u2y_I/AAAAAAAABjM/7uXZboXdLiUDgPWbt-JJUa7B-6YTlyE6QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PORTUGUESEcorcogaMODERNgroup.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i1H3Mwy284k/Xdqq4HjtnmI/AAAAAAAABjQ/1ErlB2TkP0MQeDJAdb-vkbjXiziJmaqqwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PORTUGUESEcorcogaPCAmodern.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sMx9mQyE8OA/Xdqq-RlMb7I/AAAAAAAABjY/A2Y43h1tTVoa6nphyehBkSBvSzS3G7CXwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PORTUGUESEpcaANCIENT.JPEG

8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313
Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (6.439)
Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (7.049)
Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.332)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.422)
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (7.43)

84. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97 - R1
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (5.829)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.154)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (7.43)
Central Roman (670 AD) (7.541)
Central Roman (590 AD) (8.234)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uAyTqPSTMlc/XdqDt8bpaaI/AAAAAAAABiI/SwC8jUbjLWgatOT6Yo3uI-SLFDL0uIG4QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/EtruscoMAUSOLEO.JPEG


I don't know, but I don't think those remains are so anonymous or that they belonged to anyone.



------Separate subject not related to the whole. After the papers of Rome we are going to need a vacation, some double. lol -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



With these last entries, my donut has been incredibly versified, showing H, E. In the mitochondrial N, M at approx 0.5 but there are, I delighted, more defenses.



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Km6tltTwPoc/Xdqgtg-gnjI/AAAAAAAABiU/68EkH6tk0yM33cVIwQWbz2ROxwsB3ngKgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutpostRome.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CNOxihxQ3i4/XdqgvumFzDI/AAAAAAAABiY/fH95qSi_83Y76XekTx3kQCTbZ3qwLidQgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/donutmitocondrial.JPEG

Duarte
24-11-19, 18:33
I'm sorry. I think there's some confusion here. The samples studied in the recent paper don't come from the Mausoleum. The bones in the mausoleum were scattered and lost to history.

The samples are labeled Mausoleo Augusto because they were found in the ancient wall NEAR the mausoleum. I explained all of this upthread and provided the link to the Supplement of the Antonio et al paper where it is discussed.

As to your matches, it seems you do get matches to ancient people like Etruscans and others who would plot in today's Northern Italy. However, you also seem to get a lot of matches to these new Imperial Roman and Late Antiquity samples as well. Many of them do not plot in Northern Italy. Many of them wouldn't even plot in modern Lazio. They plot in Southern Italy.

Rome is in Lazio, which is not Northern Italy. Lazio is central Italy both geographically and genetically. (I'm talking modern Lazio, because you were drawing a comparison to modern Northern Italy.) Just south of it, before you even get out of the borders of Lazio (probably due to changes Mussolini made to the borders) you're in Southern Italy genetically. The Abruzzi are, of course, Southern Italy. The actual genetic break in Italy is immediately south of Rome.

Some people don't even include Tuscany in Northern Italy despite the fact that genetically it is closer to it than to geographically Central Italian provinces like Umbria and Marche.



I know this seems arcane, but the divisions are real genetically and culturally.

Northern Italy is partly defined linguistically. It is where the dialects are what used to be called Gallo-Italian. The genetics do match it very well.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-buli8L_Nb-o/UEU3PbmKBuI/AAAAAAAAAOE/v3az4hlCxWA/s1600/cisalpine_galu_and_laspezia-rimini_line.png
Thanks for the clarifications Angela. I was really believing that the samples came from the Augustus’s Mausoleum and not from its surroundings because of the nomenclature assigned to them by the MTA. I take back what I said and the dissertation on Augustus’s Mausoleum stay now just as a curious fact for the history lovers. As for the genetic classification of the mentioned samples, I have taken as reference only the relative position of their respective numbers ploted in the PCA. I did not know that these medieval samples, some so recent that were approaching to the beginning of the modern age, were plotting further south. Very timely your clarifications because they bring important details for those who are not following more closely the posts on thread “Moots: Ancient Rome Paper”. Cheers :)


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Duarte
24-11-19, 18:35
Grazie. :)
Perhaps the below helps to represent the "position" of the Abruzzi compared to other regions'.

http://secher.bernard.free.fr/blog/public/2018_Raveane_Figure1B.jpg
http://secher.bernard.free.fr/blog/public/2018_Raveane_Figure1C.jpg

Thanks too, Regio:)


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Angela
24-11-19, 19:12
Very interesting, Carlos. Here's our side by side comparisons.

R32-Mausoleo Augusto
Carlos-22.03
Mine: 26. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 11.57 - R32 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

R33-Mausoleo Augusto
Carlos 12.56
Mine-It doesn't appear in my first 60 so it must be above 14.55, but probably not by much.

I shall expect to be addressed as "Domina" from now on. :)

112514-Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
Carlos- 14.55
Mine-
57. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.48 - I12514 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

17498-Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
Carlos-14.62
Mine-59. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.53 - I7498 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

I also get these:
18. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 10.29 - I2515
Top
97
% match vs all users

Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.53 - I12515 -

25. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 10.85 - I7424 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 11.87 - I2514
Top
96
% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 11.99 - I3981 -
Top
97

% match vs all users


40. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.95 - CL23 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

45. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 13.51 - I3575 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

54. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.25 - CL94 -
Top
90
% match vs all users

55. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.39 - I3581 -
Top
98
% match vs all users


57. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.48 - I12514 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

I propose that Carlos and Duarte be put up for honorary Italian citizenship, and I should be put up for honorary Spanish and Portuguese citizenship. If things had gone differently, marriage might have accomplished it, but this will do. :)

Duarte
24-11-19, 19:19
Very interesting, Carlos. Here's our side by side comparisons.

R32-Mausoleo Augusto
Carlos-22.03
Mine: 26. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 11.57 - R32 -
Top
99% match vs all users

R33-Mausoleo Augusto
Carlos 12.56
Mine-It doesn't appear in my first 60 so it must be above 14.55, but probably not by much.

I shall expect to be addressed as "Domina" from now on. :)

112514-Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate
Carlos- 14.55
Mine-
57. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.48 - I12514 -
Top
93% match vs all users

17498-Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
Carlos-14.62
Mine-59. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.53 - I7498 -
Top
95% match vs all users

I also get these:
18. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 10.29 - I2515
Top
97% match vs all users

Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.53 - I12515 -

25. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 10.85 - I7424 -
Top
99% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 11.87 - I2514
Top
96% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 11.99 - I3981 -
Top
97
% match vs all users


40. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.95 - CL23 -
Top
97% match vs all users

45. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 13.51 - I3575 -
Top
99% match vs all users

54. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.25 - CL94 -
Top
90% match vs all users

55. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.39 - I3581 -
Top
98% match vs all users

I propose that Carlos and Duarte be put up for honorary Italian citizenship, and I should be put up for honorary Spanish and Portuguese citizenship. If things had gone differently, marriage might have accomplished it, but this will do. :)

57. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.48 - I12514 -
Top
93% match vs all users

It would be an honor for me to receive the Italian honorary citizenship and it would be an honor for the Portuguese people to grant you the Portuguese honorary citizenship :)


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Carlos
24-11-19, 19:30
To Ángela


That's done!

Salento
24-11-19, 19:32
I think PT is Portogallo

:thinking: Porto dei Galli :)

Portugal = Port of the Gauls ???

https://i.imgur.com/x7PMxE4.jpg

Angela
24-11-19, 19:39
To Ángela


That's done!

Grazie, my dear friends. I am honored. :)

Archetype0ne
24-11-19, 19:46
@Salento

The word Portugal derives from the Roman-Celtic place name Portus Cale. Cale or Cailleach was the name of a Celtic deity and the name of an early settlement located at the mouth of the Douro River (present-day Vila Nova de Gaia), which flows into the Atlantic Ocean in the north of what is now Portugal.

Around 200 BC, the Romans took the Iberian Peninsula (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Peninsula) from the Carthaginians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Carthage) during the Second Punic War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Punic_War), and in the process conquered Cale and renamed it Portus Cale (Port of Cale). During the Middle Ages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages), the region around Portus Cale became known by the Suebi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suebi) and Visigoths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigoths) as Portucale.
The name Portucale evolved into Portugale during the 7th and 8th centuries, and by the 9th century, that term was used extensively to refer to the region between the rivers Douro and Minho (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minho_River), the Minho flowing along what would become the northern Portugal-Spain border (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal-Spain_border). By the 11th and 12th centuries, Portugale was already referred to as Portugal.


History of Portugal - Wikipedia


(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Portugal)https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › History_of_Portuga

Salento
24-11-19, 20:23
@Salento

The word Portugal derives from the Roman-Celtic place name Portus Cale. Cale or Cailleach was the name of a Celtic deity and the name of an early settlement located at the mouth of the Douro River (present-day Vila Nova de Gaia), which flows into the Atlantic Ocean in the north of what is now Portugal.

Around 200 BC, the Romans took the Iberian Peninsula (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Peninsula) from the Carthaginians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Carthage) during the Second Punic War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Punic_War), and in the process conquered Cale and renamed it Portus Cale (Port of Cale). During the Middle Ages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages), the region around Portus Cale became known by the Suebi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suebi) and Visigoths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigoths) as Portucale.
The name Portucale evolved into Portugale during the 7th and 8th centuries, and by the 9th century, that term was used extensively to refer to the region between the rivers Douro and Minho (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minho_River), the Minho flowing along what would become the northern Portugal-Spain border (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal-Spain_border). By the 11th and 12th centuries, Portugale was already referred to as Portugal.


History of Portugal - Wikipedia


(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Portugal)https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › History_of_Portugal

Gallo in Italian means Gaul, rooster, ...
Portogallo is Portugal

Galles in Italian means Wales

Galli = Gauls
Gallesi = Welsh

Jovialis
24-11-19, 21:22
https://i.imgur.com/qMQxMnd.png

Here is a PCA I must have missed, that was in the supplement. Now it makes sense as to why I get the samples I do.

Salento
25-11-19, 03:02
Imputation:

I downloaded from DNA.land my “Imputed VCF file (~39M SNPs)“, reformatted with “DNA Kit Studio”, the Results ??? :

(I think I know how they turned Elizabeth Warren into a Native American) :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/vzMZohf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ihq0hJv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MY0sfYo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aRAg21E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9pEZKaI.jpg

Large distances, and Obviously some of the results are unrealistic, I Think :)


... from my Normal raw-data results:
https://i.imgur.com/kIVJIcr.jpg

Jovialis
25-11-19, 03:57
https://i.imgur.com/qMQxMnd.png
Here is a PCA I must have missed, that was in the supplement. Now it makes sense as to why I get the samples I do.
A closer look at the PCA. I think samples like 437 and 850, plus Greek/Aegean admixture, largely explains the current position of people from Puglia, and many other southern Italians. They are eastern shifted from the southern Italian-like Iron Age samples.

Carlos
25-11-19, 04:35
New segment. I had missed whit the delusions of greatness. Let's see who this good and humble gentleman is about.



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3slelExzToc/XdtAVvighQI/AAAAAAAABj4/PEJxasoEvzwWOJRHmK9uUx_H2_VDk3jRQCLcBGAsYHQ/w945-h600-p-k-no-nu/cryptabalbiR105.jpg

mtDNA: T1a

Y-DNA: J-M267


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tZPALPM51UM/Xds7m-A1MQI/AAAAAAAABjs/QJkKm7dhaSUOrZFducsMzFh0y-XYavFNACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CryptaBalbisegmentos.jpg

Modern Group
1. Spanish_Aragon (5.017)
2. Spanish_Valencia (6.046)
3. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (6.695)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (7.904)
5. Southwest_French (8.076)
6. Spanish_Cantabria (8.328)
7. Spanish_Murcia (8.987)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.225)

Similar Sample
Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) (6.965)
Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) (7.456)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (8.441)
Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (9.261)
Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) (9.953)



This sounds like Jackie's revenge

Salento
25-11-19, 04:56
A closer look at the PCA. I think samples like 437 and 850, plus Greek/Aegean admixture, largely explains the current position of people from Puglia, and many other southern Italians. They are eastern shifted from the southern Italian-like Iron Age samples.

Thanks for the Numbered PCA :)

I called R437 some kind of “Ancestral Father”

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38222-Mytrueancestry-com?p=590579&viewfull=1#post590579

bigsnake49
25-11-19, 07:22
My overall genetic distance from ancient samples remains the same: Maybe I should refresh my recollection about the Illyrians. :)
Roman (3.568)
Roman + Illyrian (4.064)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (4.779)
Gallo-Roman (9.491)
Illyrian (10.35)

My new ten and unders: no change to my very top numbers, but the samples from Tuscany, and there are a lot of them, push down a lot of the rest. Interesting that I get what seems to be an Italo-Iberian convert to Islam, i.e. found in a Morisco context. So, all those speculations that some of the local population would have converted and remained faithful to their new religion were true.

Does anyone know if there are more to come?

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

10. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

11. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

12. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
98
% match vs all users

13. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.07 - NS3c - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
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16. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.15 - NS3b - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

17. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.28 - I3313 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
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18. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 10.29 - I2515 (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97
% match vs all users

19. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 10.44 - R57 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
% match vs all users

20. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.53 - I12515 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
97
% match vs all users

21. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 10.6 - R64 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Top
99
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22. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 10.68 - R59 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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99
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23. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 10.69 - R117 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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24. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.83 - SZ32 - ? (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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25. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 10.85 - I7424 - (Click for more info) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
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% match vs all users

I m sorry Angela but you can't possibly have a 3.614 distance from an ancient Central Roman unless he was the founder of your village and all of you in the village have been marrying your first cousins. Just sayin...:laughing:

Duarte
25-11-19, 11:37
Imputation:

I downloaded from DNA.land my “Imputed VCF file (~39M SNPs)“, reformatted with “DNA Kit Studio”, the Results ??? :

(I think I know how they turned Elizabeth Warren into a Native American) :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/vzMZohf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ihq0hJv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MY0sfYo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aRAg21E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9pEZKaI.jpg

Large distances, and Obviously some of the results are unrealistic, I Think :)


... from my Normal raw-data results:
https://i.imgur.com/kIVJIcr.jpg

Good morning dear friend Salento. I always found the DNA.land results very weird. They seem to have deleted all the old raw data that was uploaded by users and are demanding a new registration and a new data upload. If their database was already small then it is now minimal. But I thought cool these matches with Native Americans and I was envy. Good envy, as they say here in Brazil. Cheers :)

PaschalisB
25-11-19, 12:10
I got more Roman matches after the latest update


https://mytrueancestry.com/maps/qkhwlcr8mj_s_pca.mp4

1. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 10.14 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

2. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 11.11 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.26 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.67 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

6. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 12.89 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.25 - ?
Top
94
% match vs all users

8. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 13.35 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

9. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.36 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

10. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 13.67 - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users

11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 13.77 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

12. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - ?
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95
% match vs all users

13. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.01 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

14. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 14.35 - ?
Top
96
% match vs all users

15. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 14.63 -
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94
% match vs all users

16. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 14.74 -
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99
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17. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 14.86 -
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94
% match vs all users

18. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 15.03 -
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94
% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 15.15 - ?
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92
% match vs all users

20. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.52
Top
94
% match vs all users

Angela
25-11-19, 13:43
I m sorry Angela but you can't possibly have a 3.614 distance from an ancient Central Roman unless he was the founder of your village and all of you in the village have been marrying your first cousins. Just sayin...:laughing:

Well, I'm not walking around in a toga and "actually" demanding to be addressed as "Domina", you know, so nothing to be sorry about...

As to the 'all of you living in one village and marrying only cousins' thing, it's only true for my father's family. :)

All branches of his family can be traced back from the 1920s and 1930s to the Council of Trent of 1545 (after which all births, deaths, and marriages had to be recorded in the local parish church) to a group of a couple of extremely isolated villages high in the Northern Apennines of Italy. So, maybe not first cousins, but I would think definitely cousins, although parish priests did probably go back at least 100 years into the records and enforce the rules against marrying within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. Still, you could sometimes get dispensations.

That's why Cavalli-Sforza used these villagers for his seminal work on consanguinity and drift in the Italian peninsula. (Btw, he wondered why the IQ hadn't been depressed, which does happen in a lot of cases like this, along with decreased fertility. He should have asked more questions. Since the land was limited, and it was so difficult to leave for numerous reasons, only the fittest of the children were allowed to take over the land and get married, and the rest were more or less unpaid workers living on the property, and celibate unpaid workers for the most part. This was true in a lot of rural isolated communities of Europe. Marriage rates or even reproduction rates in rural areas were rather low until the 19th century, when conditions began to improve, nowhere near as high as they were in urban areas. Social controls deteriorated in the cities. Of course, the childhood death rates in urban areas were often high as well.)

Anyway, to get back to genetic testing...

Genetic distance calculations for ancient samples versus modern samples is a standard part of population genetics, and you can find the results in any of the academic papers we discuss.

Numerous people with their noses out of joint, perhaps because they didn't think of it themselves, have come on here to complain that all that mta is doing is running those programs using Eurogenes G25 coordinates. Ergo, individuals could do it for themselves and therefore we're stupid to pay mta to do it.

Now, the fact that they're Eurogenes' coordinates makes me a little skeptical, but the results should be roughly accurate. So, yes, I do think that the total genetic similarity numbers are pretty accurate for me.

The "Deep Dive" is more problematic. Those cm numbers seem extremely high. Also, it is VERY difficult to distinguish IBD segments from IBS segments. On the other hand, an academic paper found extraordinarily high IBD sharing between an ancient sample and an indigenous man still living in the same area. I'm therefore reserving judgment.

So, yes, it may be annoying, but....

Angela
25-11-19, 13:54
I got more Roman matches after the latest update


https://mytrueancestry.com/maps/qkhwlcr8mj_s_pca.mp4

1. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 10.14 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

2. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 11.11 -
Top
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% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.71 -
Top
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4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.26 -
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5. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.67 -
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6. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 12.89 -
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7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.25 - ?
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8. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 13.35 -
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9. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.36 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

10. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 13.67 - ?
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11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 13.77 -
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12. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - ?
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13. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.01 -
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14. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 14.35 - ?
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15. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 14.63 -
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16. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 14.74 -
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17. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 14.86 -
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18. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 15.03 -
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19. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 15.15 - ?
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% match vs all users

20. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.52
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94
% match vs all users



Are your prior matches included on here?

I'd like to compare our scores more precisely. Do you have the sample numbers for these matches?

Also, did you post all of your 60 matches?

Salento
25-11-19, 15:17
Good morning dear friend Salento. I always found the DNA.land results very weird. They seem to have deleted all the old raw data that was uploaded by users and are demanding a new registration and a new data upload. If their database was already small then it is now minimal. But I thought cool these matches with Native Americans and I was envy. Good envy, as they say here in Brazil. Cheers :)

I see Imputation as a “Fill in the Blank Guessing Game”,

It would also explain the high Deep Dive and Q-Matching cM (especially if they use modern statistics to fill in the blanks. Imputation is an educated guess.

Being Ancient DNA deteriorated or incomplete, who knows how many times they use Imputation.

I'm a bit skeptical of the accuracy of most of of the 1000+ years old samples Autosomal Results.

My DNA is “fresh” :) and Imputation added Native American, and other inaccurate ethnicities.

None of my normal results show similarities with Sitting Bull :cool-v:

You have to give me an Indian name now, I’m obviously partially Lakota or Sioux :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/9pEZKaI.jpg

DNA.land is under New Management.

Duarte
25-11-19, 15:43
I see Imputation as a “Fill in the Blank Guessing Game”,

It would also explain the high Deep Dive and Q-Matching cM (especially if they use modern statistics to fill in the blanks. Imputation is an educated guess.

Being Ancient DNA deteriorated or incomplete, who knows how many times they use Imputation.

I'm a bit skeptical of the accuracy of most of of the 1000+ years old samples Autosomal Results.

My DNA is “fresh” :) and Imputation added Native American, and other inaccurate ethnicities.

None of my normal results show similarities with Sitting Bull :cool-v:

You have to give me an Indian name now, I’m obviously partially Lakota or Sioux :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/9pEZKaI.jpg

DNA.land is under New Management.

LOL I don't know the native languages ​​of North America, but it seems that the Sioux adopted the name of a native animal and a personal trait, such as Sitting Bull, for example. Romulus and Remus are, according to Roman mythology, two twin brothers adopted by a female wolf, one of whom, Romulus, was the founder of the city of Rome. You could adopt the name Son of the Wolves, parodying the movie “Dances with Wolves”, starring by Kevin Costner. :grin::good_job:

Jovialis
25-11-19, 15:44
https://i.imgur.com/f8Qxhxr.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/ahm9VYu.png
https://i.imgur.com/z2crxqU.jpg
Mytrueancestry top ten ancient samples is basically these two studies. Despite the fact that my first sample changed to 1548, my closest samples modeled two ways is still "Hellenic Roman" (SZ40)+"Roman" (CL121.)

https://i.imgur.com/8rQadHd.png
https://i.imgur.com/SUhtD8A.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/bO85lOU.png

Salento
25-11-19, 15:55
LOL I don't know the native languages ​​of North America, but it seems that the Sioux adopted the name of a native animal and a personal trait, such as Sitting Bull, for example. Romulus and Remus are, according to Roman mythology, two twin brothers adopted by a female wolf, one of whom, Romulus, was the founder of the city of Rome. You could adopt the name Son of the Wolves, parodying the movie “Dances with Wolves”, starring by Kevin Costner. :grin::good_job:

Very good Duarte.

The Ancient Name of my Town is LUPIAE (wolf)

Son of the Wolves it is, not to be confused with son of a b...h lol

Forza Lecce:

https://i.imgur.com/EWqZCWE.jpg

Salento
25-11-19, 16:06
https://i.imgur.com/f8Qxhxr.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/ahm9VYu.png
https://i.imgur.com/z2crxqU.jpg
Mytrueancestry top ten ancient samples is basically these two studies. Despite the fact that my first sample changed to 1548, my closest samples modeled two ways is still "Hellenic Roman" (SZ40)+"Roman" (CL121.)

https://i.imgur.com/8rQadHd.png
https://i.imgur.com/SUhtD8A.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/bO85lOU.png

Same with me, samples come and go, but the “Your closest Ancient populations...” stays constant.

Jovialis
25-11-19, 16:55
My distance of affinity to 850, and 437 is comparable to my affinity to the Myceneans. From what I've seen from other users, for these samples, this is relatively close:

34. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.52 - I9041 -
Top 98% match vs all users

35. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.54 - I9033 -
Top 98% match vs all users

43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 15.26 - I9006 -
Top 98% match vs all users

45. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 -
Top 98% match vs all users

49. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 15.82 - R850 -
Top 96% match vs all users

Angela
25-11-19, 17:22
Well, I'm not walking around in a toga and "actually" demanding to be addressed as "Domina", you know, so nothing to be sorry about...

As to the 'all of you living in one village and marrying only cousins' thing, it's only true for my father's family. :)

All branches of his family can be traced back from the 1920s and 1930s to the Council of Trent of 1545 (after which all births, deaths, and marriages had to be recorded in the local parish church) to a group of a couple of extremely isolated villages high in the Northern Apennines of Italy. So, maybe not first cousins, but I would think definitely cousins, although parish priests did probably go back at least 100 years into the records and enforce the rules against marrying within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. Still, you could sometimes get dispensations.

That's why Cavalli-Sforza used these villagers for his seminal work on consanguinity and drift in the Italian peninsula. (Btw, he wondered why the IQ hadn't been depressed, which does happen in a lot of cases like this, along with decreased fertility. He should have asked more questions. Since the land was limited, and it was so difficult to leave for numerous reasons, only the fittest of the children were allowed to take over the land and get married, and the rest were more or less unpaid workers living on the property, and celibate unpaid workers for the most part. This was true in a lot of rural isolated communities of Europe. Marriage rates or even reproduction rates in rural areas were rather low until the 19th century, when conditions began to improve, nowhere near as high as they were in urban areas. Social controls deteriorated in the cities. Of course, the childhood death rates in urban areas were often high as well.)

Anyway, to get back to genetic testing...

Genetic distance calculations for ancient samples versus modern samples is a standard part of population genetics, and you can find the results in any of the academic papers we discuss.

Numerous people with their noses out of joint, perhaps because they didn't think of it themselves, have come on here to complain that all that mta is doing is running those programs using Eurogenes G25 coordinates. Ergo, individuals could do it for themselves and therefore we're stupid to pay mta to do it.

Now, the fact that they're Eurogenes' coordinates makes me a little skeptical, but the results should be roughly accurate. So, yes, I do think that the total genetic similarity numbers are pretty accurate for me.

The "Deep Dive" is more problematic. Those cm numbers seem extremely high. Also, it is VERY difficult to distinguish IBD segments from IBS segments. On the other hand, an academic paper found extraordinarily high IBD sharing between an ancient sample and an indigenous man still living in the same area. I'm therefore reserving judgment.

So, yes, it may be annoying, but....

Oh, I forgot to mention something.

That 3.4 match ancient sample was compared to modern 1000 genomes populations (which includes Tuscans but not northern Italian samples) in the academic paper, and the closest description they could come up with was "Tuscan like". There was a paper that discussed Iron Age populations in the Balkans and found some to be "Tuscan like". My second highest match, 4.5, from the same paper, when placed by the authors on a modern PCA, is between North Italians and Tuscans.

Every modern genetics test I've ever taken shows me to be between the North Italian Bergamo samples and the Tuscan samples.

By no means am I implying direct descent or anything. What this program using Eurogenes G25 ,and, therefore, mta seem to be showing, however, is that there were people pretty close to me in general autosomal make up living about 1500 years plus ago, and even earlier, into the Iron Age, and the academic papers agree.

The one that is extraordinary to me is my match, the Proto-Villanovian one, from 930 BC. I'm at 6.2, Stuvane from Emilia Romagna is at 6.0. I'm sure there will be Italians who are even closer. That group of people might have given birth to the Eastern Italic tribes.

Regio X
25-11-19, 19:24
Oh, I forgot to mention something.

That 3.4 match ancient sample was compared to modern 1000 genomes populations (which includes Tuscans but not northern Italian samples) in the academic paper, and the closest description they could come up with was "Tuscan like". There was a paper that discussed Iron Age populations in the Balkans and found some to be "Tuscan like". My second highest match, 4.5, from the same paper, when placed by the authors on a modern PCA, is between North Italians and Tuscans.

Every modern genetics test I've ever taken shows me to be between the North Italian Bergamo samples and the Tuscan samples.

By no means am I implying direct descent or anything. What this program using Eurogenes G25 ,and, therefore, mta seem to be showing, however, is that there were people pretty close to me in general autosomal make up living about 1500 years plus ago, and even earlier, into the Iron Age, and the academic papers agree.

The one that is extraordinary to me is my match, the Proto-Villanovian one, from 930 BC. I'm at 6.2, Stuvane from Emilia Romagna is at 6.0. I'm sure there will be Italians who are even closer. That group of people might have given birth to the Eastern Italic tribes.Is it based on G25 or K15?

Well, it's just one more tool for clues anyway, not a "given truth". :)
We discussed these "convergences" before. It's not that we're living fossils of ancient people (I'm myself very close to an ancient sample according to MTA), but this convergence, even if in part accidental, may point to some relevant (shared) ancestry. It'd work roughly like an Oracle, as far as I can see. Still, if they really use K15, I wonder why they haven't chosen K36, with so many more clusters. The similarity tool based on K36 looks good, perhaps the only exception being more drifted pops such Sardinians (West Med) and Basques. Clusters and pop references too close here.

As for 1000 Genomes and Tuscany, the samples would came all from FI?
https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/2017/07/30/how-representative-are-1000-genomes-samples/
(...)
"The Tuscan sample from Italy was collected in a single small town, hence is biased towards rural people of a specific town. Similarly, the British sample is rural, although scattered around a wider area."
(...)
"TSI (Toscani in Italia): These cell lines and DNA samples were prepared from blood samples collected in a small town near Florence in the Tuscany region of Italy. All of the samples are from unrelated individuals who identified themselves as having at least three out of four Tuscan grandparents."

Notice also that only three Tuscan grandparents were mandatory, not four. This info may be confirmed in the following link, related to one of the samples:
https://www.coriell.org/0/Sections/Search/Sample_Detail.aspx?Ref=NA20536&PgId=166
"Remarks: 'At least three out of four grandparents were born in Tuscany'"

Don't know if any of them had an "outsider" grandparent. Still...

Angela
25-11-19, 19:46
Is it based on G25 or K15?

Well, it's just one more tool for clues anyway, not a "given truth". :)
We discussed these "convergences" before. It's not that we're living fossils of ancient people (I'm myself very close to an ancient sample according to MTA), but this convergence, even if in part accidental, may point to some relevant (shared) ancestry. It'd work roughly like an Oracle, as far as I can see. Still, if they really use K15, I wonder why they haven't chosen K36, with so many more clusters. The similarity tool based on K36 looks good, perhaps the only exception being more drifted pops such Sardinians (West Med) and Basques. Clusters and pop references too close here.

As for 1000 Genomes and Tuscany, the samples would came all from FI?
https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/2017/07/30/how-representative-are-1000-genomes-samples/
(...)
"The Tuscan sample from Italy was collected in a single small town, hence is biased towards rural people of a specific town. Similarly, the British sample is rural, although scattered around a wider area."
(...)
"TSI (Toscani in Italia): These cell lines and DNA samples were prepared from blood samples collected in a small town near Florence in the Tuscany region of Italy. All of the samples are from unrelated individuals who identified themselves as having at least three out of four Tuscan grandparents."

Notice also that only three Tuscan grandparents were mandatory, not four. This info may be confirmed in the following link, related to one of the samples:
https://www.coriell.org/0/Sections/Search/Sample_Detail.aspx?Ref=NA20536&PgId=166
"Remarks: 'At least three out of four grandparents were born in Tuscany'"

Don't know if any of them had an "outsider" grandparent. Still...

Yes, that's why I posted the following in the post to which you're responding:

By no means am I implying direct descent or anything. What this program using Eurogenes G25 ,and, therefore, mta seem to be showing, however, is that there were people pretty close to me in general autosomal make up living about 1500 years plus ago, and even earlier, into the Iron Age, and the academic papers agree.

I doubt that unusual standard for the TSI samples changed much: on every calculator test I run I'm between Bergamo and Tuscans. In the early Dienekes runs where he included all the Tuscan samples, they all appear in a row, and with extremely similar fits.

Plus, we can see where at least the SZ and CL samples plot on a PCA by looking at the Langobard paper. Jovialis helpfully posted it upthread. My two very close ones are SZ43 and CL36.

What ancient sample was very close to you in genetic distance? I don't have a copy of your results in my files, and this thread is REALLY long. :)

Pax Augusta
25-11-19, 20:10
Is it based on G25 or K15?

Well, it's just one more tool for clues anyway, not a "given truth". :)
We discussed these "convergences" before. It's not that we're living fossils of ancient people (I'm myself very close to an ancient sample according to MTA), but this convergence, even if in part accidental, may point to some relevant (shared) ancestry. It'd work roughly like an Oracle, as far as I can see. Still, if they really use K15, I wonder why they haven't chosen K36, with so many more clusters. The similarity tool based on K36 looks good, perhaps the only exception being more drifted pops such Sardinians (West Med) and Basques. Clusters and pop references too close here.

As for 1000 Genomes and Tuscany, the samples would came all from FI?
https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/2017/07/30/how-representative-are-1000-genomes-samples/
(...)
"The Tuscan sample from Italy was collected in a single small town, hence is biased towards rural people of a specific town. Similarly, the British sample is rural, although scattered around a wider area."
(...)
"TSI (Toscani in Italia): These cell lines and DNA samples were prepared from blood samples collected in a small town near Florence in the Tuscany region of Italy. All of the samples are from unrelated individuals who identified themselves as having at least three out of four Tuscan grandparents."

Notice also that only three Tuscan grandparents were mandatory, not four. This info may be confirmed in the following link, related to one of the samples:
https://www.coriell.org/0/Sections/Search/Sample_Detail.aspx?Ref=NA20536&PgId=166
"Remarks: 'At least three out of four grandparents were born in Tuscany'"

Don't know if any of them had an "outsider" grandparent. Still...

MTA is based on K15.

"Tuscan sample from Italy was collected in a single small town, hence is biased towards rural people of a specific town"

It depends on which small town, the province of Florence is very large. Many small towns nearby Florence are nothing more than suburbs of Florence, with many migrants coming from outside the region.

If they have declared that it is based on at least 3 grandparents out of 4 born in Tuscany it means it is true. Of course not all of them are mixed, many results seem perfectly in line with the Tuscans, but there are some outliers in fact which goes much further southeast.

It is now frequently seen, and I do not speak of TSI specifically, many academic samples are not completely accurate.



I doubt that unusual standard for the TSI samples changed much: on every calculator test I run I'm between Bergamo and Tuscans. In the early Dienekes runs where he included all the Tuscan samples, they all appear in a row, and with extremely similar fits.


TSI is a huge sample over 100. So it is possible that when average is calculated outliers are diluted by those who are not. TSI on Gedmatch is only in Diekenes's Dodecad, and Dodecad uses Metsapalu's TSI30. About thirty TSI individuals used by Metsapalu for his studies, and maybe he removed those that seemed outliers to him.

Regio X
25-11-19, 20:14
Yes, that's why I posted the following in the post to which you're responding:
By no means am I implying direct descent or anything. What this program using Eurogenes G25 ,and, therefore, mta seem to be showing, however, is that there were people pretty close to me in general autosomal make up living about 1500 years plus ago, and even earlier, into the Iron Age, and the academic papers agree.
I doubt that unusual standard for the TSI samples changed much: on every calculator test I run I'm between Bergamo and Tuscans. In the early Dienekes runs where he included all the Tuscan samples, they all appear in a row, and with extremely similar fits.I believe it explains it. Thanks.
Also, Florence must be a good "average" for Tuscany.


Plus, we can see where at least the SZ and CL samples plot on a PCA by looking at the Langobard paper. Jovialis helpfully posted it upthread. My two very close ones are SZ43 and CL36.
What ancient sample was very close to you in genetic distance? I don't have a copy of your results in my files, and this thread is REALLY long. :)No problem. It's below (there are more results in page 3). This Illyrian is so close that the first place won't change soon, I guess. I'd have to re-check my parents' now, with all these new samples. :)


https://oi38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/paleoven/MyAncientMap_23andMe_zpsgjmp3bqf.jpg (https://s38.photobucket.com/user/paleoven/media/MyAncientMap_23andMe_zpsgjmp3bqf.jpg.html%5D%5BIMG %5Dhttps://oi38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/paleoven/MyAncientMap_23andMe_zpsgjmp3bqf.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL)

https://oi38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/paleoven/MyAncientPop_23andMe_zpsocfpr4fu.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/paleoven/media/MyAncientPop_23andMe_zpsocfpr4fu.jpg.html%5D%5BIMG %5Dhttps://oi38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/paleoven/MyAncientPop_23andMe_zpsocfpr4fu.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL)
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
1. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (3.516)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (5.833)
3. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (6.048)
4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.505)
5. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (8.346)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.844)
7. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.868)
8. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (11.12)
9. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.49)
10. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (11.49)
11. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.74)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.02)
13. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.6)
14. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (13.64)
15. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.73)
16. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (14.27)
17. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.98)
18. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (15.28)
19. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (15.74)
20. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (16.75)
Your closest genetic modern populations...
1. North_Italian (7.993)
2. Spanish_Cataluna (9.178)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (9.460)
4. Spanish_Murcia (9.659)
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Angela
25-11-19, 20:22
I believe it explains it. Thanks.
Also, Florence must be a good "average" for Tuscany.

No problem. It's below (there are more results in page 3). This Illyrian is so close that the first place won't change soon, I guess. I'd have to re-check my parents' now, with all these new samples. :)

Yes, I get Illyrians at pretty high levels too, although not as high as you, and Thracians and Scythians. I did NOT expect that. :)

Regio X
25-11-19, 20:22
MTA is based on K15.

"Tuscan sample from Italy was collected in a single small town, hence is biased towards rural people of a specific town"

It depends on which small town, the province of Florence is very large. Many small towns nearby Florence are nothing more than suburbs of Florence, with many migrants coming from outside the region.

If they have declared that it is based on at least 3 grandparents out of 4 born in Tuscany it means it is true. Of course not all of them are mixed, many results seem perfectly in line with the Tuscans, but there are some outliers in fact which goes much further southeast.

It is now frequently seen, and I do not speak of TSI specifically, many academic samples are not completely accurate.Thanks for the infos.

It's said the source is a small town "near" Florence. But in theory a single one non-Tuscan grandparent would be allowed. Don't know if it explains the outliers.

Pax Augusta
25-11-19, 20:44
I believe it explains it. Thanks.
Also, Florence must be a good "average" for Tuscany.

Florence is too eastern. We know that in Italy there are two clines, one north-south, and the other more difficult to understand, and even less investigated so far, west-east. My opinion is that a good average would be something further west than Florence, but obviously no further north. Of course we're talking about small differences. Also considering that the vast majority of Tuscans live in the northern part of the region. Which is also the part that has attracted many more recent migrations, but this would be irrelevant with fully accurate academic samples.

https://i.imgur.com/xuh9LiY.png



Thanks for the infos.

It's said the source is a small town "near" Florence. But in theory a single one non-Tuscan grandparent would be allowed. Don't know if it explains the outliers.

We'll never know, since sampling is covered by privacy. But we know that in the last 80 years the great majority of migratory flows are from south to north, in Italy.

Angela
25-11-19, 21:10
I don't know about some of this.

I used to share with two people from Massa. They were more "southern" than TSI, and it had nothing to do with admixture. I do think that the Roman Era had some impact on many of the Tuscan and Northern Italian genomes as well, in the particular case of that part of Italy it being the establishment of Luni and then the dispersal of those people with the dislocations caused by the fall of Rome.

I do agree that western Tuscans have more ties, perhaps, to the western Med than to the Adriatic side.

All of these speculations would need a detailed genetic analysis of samples from all over Toscana, I think.

Pax Augusta
25-11-19, 21:23
I don't know about some of this.

I used to share with two people from Massa. They were more "southern" than TSI, and it had nothing to do with admixture. I do think that the Roman Era had some impact on many of the Tuscan and Northern Italian genomes as well, in the particular case of that part of Italy it being the establishment of Luni and then the dispersal of those people with the dislocations caused by the fall of Rome.

I do agree that western Tuscans have more ties, perhaps, to the western Med than to the Adriatic side.

All of these speculations would need a detailed genetic analysis of samples from all over Toscana, I think.

It depends, there is too much individual variation, few individuals are unrepresentative. I have seen people from Massa who were very similar instead to those from La Spezia. Then it depends on the tool and which components are used to draw a PCA. For example in the study on the Longobards in a PCA Tuscan HGDP (which certainly comes from southern Tuscany) is north of TSI.

Of course yes, for these speculations we would need samples from all over the region. That applies to any region.

https://i.imgur.com/kA73p4K.png

Angela
25-11-19, 23:09
It depends, there is too much individual variation, few individuals are unrepresentative. I have seen people from Massa who were very similar instead to those from La Spezia. Then it depends on the tool and which components are used to draw a PCA. For example in the study on the Longobards in a PCA Tuscan HGDP (which certainly comes from southern Tuscany) is north of TSI.

Of course yes, for these speculations we would need samples from all over the region. That applies to any region.

https://i.imgur.com/kA73p4K.png

Well, that's certainly odd.

Regio X
26-11-19, 00:19
@Pax
Yeah, those densities matter, unless we were talking on averages among provinces. Then we'd possibly get a bit different picture?
I really forgot of these "west-east" gradients. So the best Tuscan average would be likely more to the West. Ok.

Salento
26-11-19, 07:03
https://i.imgur.com/3NzFTiz.jpg

Prem. Map (default): Your closest matches from Ancient Times...
https://i.imgur.com/ZxzkypG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SCRcqbK.jpg

PaschalisB
26-11-19, 12:00
Are your prior matches included on here?

I'd like to compare our scores more precisely. Do you have the sample numbers for these matches?

Also, did you post all of your 60 matches?

I don't have the full subscription, so I just have my top 20 matches and no sample numbers :(
But yes, many of my previous matches are there, like Central Roman and Byzantine Roman Warrior.

Carlos
26-11-19, 12:37
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6o7BLqD3JG0/Xdz7vSedJTI/AAAAAAAABkE/f5fEvE_-JNklKyOBMesGD4OiDMdImllPQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/mapaamericaIcelander.JPEG
The first time I get something on this map.

Now seeing the image of this wonderful continent makes me think about my 150 samples and seeing them I say: I am Europe because if those 150 samples were to give an example of the Bronze what could I say, what am I of the bronze? I also have hehe

Duarte
26-11-19, 14:10
Is it based on G25 or K15?

Well, it's just one more tool for clues anyway, not a "given truth". :)
We discussed these "convergences" before. It's not that we're living fossils of ancient people (I'm myself very close to an ancient sample according to MTA), but this convergence, even if in part accidental, may point to some relevant (shared) ancestry. It'd work roughly like an Oracle, as far as I can see. Still, if they really use K15, I wonder why they haven't chosen K36, with so many more clusters. The similarity tool based on K36 looks good, perhaps the only exception being more drifted pops such Sardinians (West Med) and Basques. Clusters and pop references too close here.

As for 1000 Genomes and Tuscany, the samples would came all from FI?
https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/2017/07/30/how-representative-are-1000-genomes-samples/
(...)
"The Tuscan sample from Italy was collected in a single small town, hence is biased towards rural people of a specific town. Similarly, the British sample is rural, although scattered around a wider area."
(...)
"TSI (Toscani in Italia): These cell lines and DNA samples were prepared from blood samples collected in a small town near Florence in the Tuscany region of Italy. All of the samples are from unrelated individuals who identified themselves as having at least three out of four Tuscan grandparents."

Notice also that only three Tuscan grandparents were mandatory, not four. This info may be confirmed in the following link, related to one of the samples:
https://www.coriell.org/0/Sections/Search/Sample_Detail.aspx?Ref=NA20536&PgId=166
"Remarks: 'At least three out of four grandparents were born in Tuscany'"

Don't know if any of them had an "outsider" grandparent. Still...

@Regio X. MTA is based on K15, as said @Pax Augusta in the post #1932 :



https://i.imgur.com/ciMjjwK.png
https://i.imgur.com/x3WILzb.png
Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com (http://www.dnagenics.com/)
v1.2 12/11/2019
Finished reading population data. 224 populations found.
15 components mode.
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Mixed Mode:

1 84,96% Portuguese + 15,04% Gokhem2 @ 4,993
2 91,99% Portuguese + 8,01% Oetzi @ 5,753
3 84,18% Spanish_Extremadura + 15,82% Gokhem2 @ 5,762
4 92,38% Portuguese + 7,62% Sardinian @ 5,766
5 87,70% Spanish_Cantabria + 12,30% Algerian @ 5,805
6 93,95% Portuguese + 6,05% NE6 @ 5,812
7 83,01% Spanish_Galicia + 16,99% Gokhem2 @ 5,818
8 66,99% Portuguese + 33,01% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5,826
9 87,70% Spanish_Cantabria + 12,30% Mozabite_Berber @ 5,956
10 50,20% Spanish_Cantabria + 49,80% Portuguese @ 5,957

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Portuguese @ 6,307
2 100% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7,061
3 100% Spanish_Galicia @ 7,266
4 100% Spanish_Cantabria @ 7,599
5 100% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 7,610
6 100% Spanish_Murcia @ 7,861
7 100% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7,974
8 100% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9,083
9 100% Spanish_Andalucia @ 9,423
10 100% Spanish_Valencia @ 9,669

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Portuguese + 50% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5,954
2 50% Spanish_Cantabria + 50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6,008
3 50% Portuguese + 50% Portuguese @ 6,307
4 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6,450
5 50% Spanish_Andalucia + 50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6,456
6 50% Portuguese + 50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 6,510
7 50% Spanish_Cantabria + 50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 6,563
8 50% Spanish_Extremadura + 50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6,584
9 50% Portuguese + 50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6,625
10 50% Spanish_Galicia + 50% Spanish_Murcia @ 6,665

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Orcadian + 33% Sardinian + 33% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5,807
2 33% Orcadian + 33% Sardinian + 33% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,813
3 33% Orcadian + 33% Sardinian + 33% Spanish_Murcia @ 5,817
4 33% Portuguese + 33% Portuguese + 33% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5,826
5 33% Orcadian + 33% Sardinian + 33% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5,875
6 33% Portuguese + 33% Spanish_Cantabria + 33% Spanish_Galicia @ 5,883
7 33% Oetzi + 33% Orcadian + 33% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5,943
8 33% Oetzi + 33% Orcadian + 33% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,993
9 33% Orcadian + 33% Portuguese + 33% Sardinian @ 5,998
10 33% Orcadian + 33% Sardinian + 33% Spanish_Cantabria @ 6,002

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% French + 25% Gokhem2 + 25% Portuguese + 25% Spanish_Murcia @ 5,459
2 25% French + 25% Gokhem2 + 25% Portuguese + 25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,498
3 25% French + 25% Gokhem2 + 25% Spanish_Extremadura + 25% Spanish_Murcia @ 5,514
4 25% Orcadian + 25% Portuguese + 25% Sardinian + 25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5,518
5 25% Orcadian + 25% Sardinian + 25% Spanish_Cantabria + 25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,522
6 25% Orcadian + 25% Portuguese + 25% Sardinian + 25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5,540
7 25% French + 25% Gokhem2 + 25% Spanish_Extremadura + 25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,541
8 25% French + 25% Gokhem2 + 25% Portuguese + 25% Portuguese @ 5,566
9 25% French + 25% Gokhem2 + 25% Spanish_Murcia + 25% Spanish_Murcia @ 5,567
10 25% Orcadian + 25% Sardinian + 25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,570

https://i.imgur.com/a3isBgx.png
https://i.imgur.com/pTw9V16.png
https://i.imgur.com/2tgkYQe.png

Using the K36 ancient, the results (mine) are as follows:

https://i.imgur.com/2Vu4YFt.png
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v1.2 12/11/2019


Finished reading population data. 474 populations found.
36 components mode.


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Mixed Mode:
1 61,52% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 38,48% CL36_northItalian @ 7,904
2 50,20% CL36_northItalian + 49,80% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 8,233
3 82,23% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 17,77% EMA_Greek_STR_300 @ 8,366
4 81,45% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 18,55% EMA_Balkanite_aed_125 @ 8,504
5 76,37% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 23,63% CL63_Alpine @ 8,634
6 67,77% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 32,23% CL57_northItalian @ 8,636
7 79,10% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 20,90% SZ37_Greek_Italian @ 8,675
8 74,02% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25,98% CL121__northItalian @ 8,714
9 82,23% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 17,77% MA2197_Anatolia_IA @ 8,739
10 82,23% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 17,77% EN_Anatolia_Tepe002 @ 8,754


Least-squares method.


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 10,969
2 100% CL94_Iberian @ 14,259
3 100% CL36_northItalian @ 14,484
4 100% BA_Hungary_RISE373 @ 16,150
5 100% CL57_northItalian @ 16,607
6 100% SZ43_northItalian @ 16,743
7 100% CL23_northItalian @ 17,870
8 100% SZ28_northItalian @ 17,922
9 100% SZ36_northItalian @ 18,210
10 100% SZ45_Pannonian @ 18,227


Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% CL36_northItalian + 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 8,222
2 50% CL57_northItalian + 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 9,399
3 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 50% SZ43_northItalian @ 9,590
4 50% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 50% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 10,348
5 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 50% SZ28_northItalian @ 10,420
6 50% CL94_Iberian + 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 10,462
7 50% CL63_Alpine + 50% EN_Ballinahatty_Ireland_ @ 10,472
8 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 50% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 10,551
9 50% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 50% SZ36_northItalian @ 10,572
10 50% CL63_Alpine + 50% MN_Germany_I0559 @ 10,659


Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% CL36_northItalian + 33% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 33% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 @ 7,970
2 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 33% MA2197_Anatolia_IA + 33% Visigoth_Iberian_I12034 @ 7,980
3 33% CL57_northItalian + 33% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 7,990
4 33% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 33% BA_Hungary_RISE374 + 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 8,095
5 33% CL63_Alpine + 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 33% MN_Germany_I0559 @ 8,121
6 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 33% MN_Germany_I0807 + 33% SZ23_Longobard @ 8,202
7 33% CL36_northItalian + 33% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 8,261
8 33% BA_Hungary_RISE247 + 33% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 8,264
9 33% BA_Hungary_RISE374 + 33% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 33% I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD @ 8,544
10 33% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 33% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 33% SZ18_Pannonian @ 8,549


Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% BA_Hungary_RISE374 + 25% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 6,840
2 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 25% MA2197_Anatolia_IA @ 7,291
3 25% BA_Hungary_RISE247 + 25% CL63_Alpine + 25% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 7,305
4 25% CL63_Alpine + 25% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 25% MN_Germany_I0807 @ 7,319
5 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% BA_Hungary_RISE374 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 7,321
6 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% CL63_Alpine + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 25% MN_Germany_I0559 @ 7,328
7 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% CL36_northItalian + 25% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 7,383
8 25% BA_Hungary_RISE247 + 25% BA_Hungary_RISE373 + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 25% SZ18_Pannonian @ 7,394
9 25% BA_Hungary_RISE374 + 25% EMA_northItalian_FN_2 + 25% I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia @ 7,402
10 25% CL57_northItalian + 25% I3578_EMA_Andalusia + 25% N_Sweden_Gokhem5 + 25% Visigoth_Iberian_I12034 @ 7,423

https://i.imgur.com/8hKdV1b.png
https://i.imgur.com/plGKlC3.png
https://i.imgur.com/64yIYaB.png

Duarte
26-11-19, 14:48
Your relatives from Ancient Times (you share identified DNA segments)

https://i.imgur.com/rSjQFJY.png

Archetype0ne
26-11-19, 15:04
@Duarte

Have you tried running Tolan K71 calculator on Admixture Studio?

Duarte
26-11-19, 15:12
@Duarte

Have you tried running Tolan K71 calculator on Admixture Studio?

Hi Archetype0ne,
Good morning. Not yet.
Cheers :)


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Regio X
26-11-19, 15:43
Mine updated - 23andMe data

https://i.imgur.com/xDvP6IJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VM83UfR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/An4ViVf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7raO6D4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RoUElZO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BF91SSH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vrHz8MF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OZQ4rJM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/R7cXCm3.jpg

Regio X
26-11-19, 17:50
Father's updated - 23andMe data

https://i.imgur.com/ceHcYCy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eT7Btjc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CMEnUy1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/puTJ1rH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/s9CgqIM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zAIh7bR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gjSbLzR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L5ibRmF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cGkmNZH.jpg

Regio X
26-11-19, 17:51
Mother's updated - 23andMe data

https://i.imgur.com/TGBnKPJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TCZYa4I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Iwfk2NM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WB97VnR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xRX6j6X.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JlO03Hh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/atd5hV6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9Dpimef.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/r3sFMB4.jpg

Salento
26-11-19, 18:19
@Duarte
:thinking: WoW :good_job: You are Complete, You have a piece of all Mankind :cool-v:

Duarte
26-11-19, 19:44
@Duarte
:thinking: WoW :good_job: You are Complete, You have a piece of all Mankind :cool-v:

LOL Thank you Salento. It's cool to be be part of everyone. I am in everyone and everyone is in me.:cool-v::good_job::smile:

blevins13
26-11-19, 21:19
11631

Initially I had this match and now it is not showing up anymore. I am wondering what happened here??


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torzio
27-11-19, 20:16
my bronze age
https://i.postimg.cc/RZvpfSbw/my-new-nov-one.png

i only get a "pannonian" for bronze age .....see below

(https://postimages.org/)https://i.postimg.cc/nr80LpDj/bronze-age.png (https://postimages.org/)


no change for mine

any idea on this 2775 bc sample ..................a proto illyrian-thracian ?

2775 BC - Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol

Genetic Distance: 14.31

..............................

my closest plot is with R1 sample from Picene/marche lands in Italy

Carlos
27-11-19, 21:54
6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 -

Similar samples
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (7.94)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (9.094)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (9.098)
Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (9.27)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (9.32)

I have also this sample of the Proto Thracian.

Modern Group

1. Spanish_Andalucia (10.17)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (11.08)
3. Spanish_Valencia (11.80)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (12.01)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (12.08)
6. Spanish_Cantabria (12.17)
7. North_Italian (12.21)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (12.36)

Thracian + Illyrian (6.588)
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (8.304)
Gallo-Roman (9.094)
Illyrian (9.098)
Thracian (10.21)



Top
99
% match vs all users

It is one of my samples that I have as the first population Andalusia, since the great maroyía is with Cantabria.

Another of my samples close to this with Andalusia is:

9. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 -

Illyrian (6.439)
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (7.742)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (8.007)
Gallo-Roman (10.29)
Roman Hispania (13.33)

Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (6.439)
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.083)
Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) (9.27)
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (9.935)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (10.29)


1. Spanish_Andalucia (7.964)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.499)
3. Spanish_Valencia (8.765)
4. Spanish_Aragon (10.04)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.23)
6. Spanish_Murcia (10.42)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (10.58)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (11.13)


20. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 -

Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) (7.94)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (8.058)
Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (8.083)
Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) (8.659)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (8.823)

1. Spanish_Andalucia (7.040)
2. Spanish_Valencia (9.227)
3. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.523)
4. Spanish_Aragon (10.47)
5. Spanish_Murcia (11.36)
6. North_Italian (11.65)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (11.85)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (12.23)

132. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 -

Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (8.659)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (9.237)
Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) (10.99)
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (11.82)
Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) (12.1)

1. Spanish_Andalucia (13.17)
2. Spanish_Valencia (15.38)
3. North_Italian (16.08)
4. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (16.16)
5. Spanish_Aragon (16.67)
6. Spanish_Murcia (17.74)
7. Tuscan (17.86)
8. Spanish_Extremadura (18.23)


Top
95
% match vs all users

34. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55 -

Illyrian (2.89)
Al-Andalus + Illyrian (5.415)
Thracian + Illyrian (5.798)
Thracian (9.757)
Al-Andalus (10.14)



Top
93
% match vs all users
1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.676)
2. Portuguese (8.073)
3. Spanish_Murcia (8.462)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.754)
5. Spanish_Galicia (9.017)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (9.229)
7. North_Italian (10.54)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9Qa9-krIrA/Xd7kbhbxuRI/AAAAAAAABkY/BvLKa6QwJAwjLr8KU3w7qY_Xhdip876OwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/prototracianvucevol.JPEG

Looking at the related ones that were with Vucevol, Carthage appeared ...?

Duarte
27-11-19, 22:03
no change for mine

any idea on this 2775 bc sample ..................a proto illyrian-thracian ?

2775 BC - Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol

Genetic Distance: 14.31

..............................

my closest plot is with R1 sample from Picene/marche lands in Italy



@Torzio

https://scitechdaily.com/ancient-dna-study-reveals-the-genomic-history-of-southeastern-europe/

https://i.imgur.com/vHeSMRI.jpg


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torzio
27-11-19, 22:32
@Torzio

https://scitechdaily.com/ancient-dna-study-reveals-the-genomic-history-of-southeastern-europe/

https://i.imgur.com/vHeSMRI.jpg


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interesting ....same mtdna marker from neolithic T samples from ancient bulgaria

https://i.postimg.cc/R0n9jJZb/malek.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star%C4%8Devo%E2%80%93K%C5%91r%C3%B6s%E2%80%93Cri% C8%99_culture (https://postimages.org/)

Salento
27-11-19, 23:34
DNA.Land ... curiosity.

A Comparison - Top 10:
Imputed VCF vs Imputed VCF converted to Ancestry template vs Standard


https://i.imgur.com/uj6CK5F.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PitdpaU.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/uxJAJMQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h1yexr7.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/duxeacl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/m9gVX5r.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/WC1n6S5.jpg

Salento
27-11-19, 23:49
The Imputed VCF converted to the AncestryDNA template it’s acceptable, I think.

Duarte
27-11-19, 23:52
The Imputed VCF converted to the AncestryDNA template it’s acceptable, I think.

I agree with you. I think that imputed DNA.land VCF (the first one data posted as VCF imputed) should be discarded. It is point outside the curve.

Salento
28-11-19, 00:06
I agree with you. I think that imputed DNA.land VCF (the first one data posted as VCF imputed) should be discarded. It is point outside the curve.

I Know, but I get 2 Native Americans :)

Pacific Northwest Amerindian vs Native American Washington State :grin: :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/efnxsNv.gif

Duarte
28-11-19, 00:10
I Know, but I get 2 Native Americans :)

Pacific Northwest Amerindian vs Native American Washington State :grin::grin:
https://i.imgur.com/efnxsNv.gif

This is the bright side. I had forgotten that. :good_job:

Salento
28-11-19, 06:53
re-upload :)

https://i.imgur.com/qO4j3E6.jpg

Archaeogenetic Map of Ancient Rome GIF

https://i.imgur.com/NobZhlX.gif


Deep Dive Map
https://i.imgur.com/Zagn4sG.jpg

torzio
28-11-19, 08:10
DNA.Land ... curiosity.

A Comparison - Top 10:
Imputed VCF vs Imputed VCF converted to Ancestry template vs Standard


https://i.imgur.com/uj6CK5F.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PitdpaU.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/uxJAJMQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h1yexr7.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/duxeacl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/m9gVX5r.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/WC1n6S5.jpg

my dnaland



West Eurasian 100%
South European 62%
South/Central European 41%


Balkan 21%


Northwest European 25%


Sardinian 8%


Ambiguous 5.6%




in other admixture site...I usually get corsican over sardinian for ancient admixture

Duarte
28-11-19, 13:53
Your Archaeogenetic Map of Ancient Rome - Animated GIF

https://i.imgur.com/wJQst87.gif

Angela
28-11-19, 15:55
I can't believe I'm doing this on Thanksgiving morning. At least I'm being hosted and don't have to cook. :)

Protovillanovian:

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.279 - R1 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. North_Italian (5.281)
2. Tuscan (8.820)
3. Spanish_Andalucia (9.947)
4. Spanish_Murcia (11.02)
5. Spanish_Valencia (11.12)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (11.12)
7. Kosovan (11.37)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.94)


Kosovans show up in quite a few of these samples. Are Albanians also in the list of populations in K=15?

10. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.723 - NS3b - ?
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. Kosovan (7.844)
2. Bulgarian (11.16)
3. Romanian (12.12)
4. Tuscan (12.38)
5. Bosnian (12.81)
6. North_Italian (12.87)
7. Greek (13.91)
8. Greek_Thessaly (14.64)

Angela
28-11-19, 16:40
Illyrians differ a bit in terms of the samples, but Iberians are always way up there.
16. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.35 - I3313 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
7. North_Italian (7.731)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

32. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.46 - I4331 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. Portuguese (8.380)
2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
5. North_Italian (9.319)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)


Top
96% match vs all users

34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.66 - I4332 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. North_Italian (7.591)
2. Portuguese (10.32)
3. Spanish_Galicia (10.33)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (11.85)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.95)
6. Spanish_Murcia (12.65)
7. Tuscan (12.74)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.02)




I think that's all of them.

torzio
28-11-19, 18:58
Illyrians differ a bit in terms of the samples, but Iberians are always way up there.
16. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.35 - I3313 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
7. North_Italian (7.731)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

32. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.46 - I4331 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. Portuguese (8.380)
2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
5. North_Italian (9.319)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)


Top
96
% match vs all users

34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.66 - I4332 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. North_Italian (7.591)
2. Portuguese (10.32)
3. Spanish_Galicia (10.33)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (11.85)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.95)
6. Spanish_Murcia (12.65)
7. Tuscan (12.74)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.02)




I think that's all of them.

Thanks , can these figures for Illyrians have something to do with the roman forced dispersal of the the Dalmatian and Pannonian populace after the famous Illyrian revolt ?

Carlos
28-11-19, 19:15
Thanks , can these figures for Illyrians have something to do with the roman forced dispersal of the the Dalmatian and Pannonian populace after the famous Illyrian revolt ?

8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 -

1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
7. North_Italian (7.731)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (6.439)
Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (7.049)
Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.332)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.422)
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (7.43)

33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -

1. Portuguese (8.380)
2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
5. North_Italian (9.319)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

Simiar Samples
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (2.89)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (6.104)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (7.366)
Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (7.683)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.879)

My identical results practically with Angela's. Seeing the similar ones the last samples of Rome appear. and the caliphato that is later but with Spain there is no sample before Rome for these samples.

If we go to:

40. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -

1. Portuguese (6.531)
2. Spanish_Galicia (7.016)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (7.329)
4. Spanish_Murcia (7.347)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.397)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (7.926)
7. North_Italian (10.51)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.52)

Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) (5.928)
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.027)
Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (6.684)
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.84)
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.853)

68. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 -

1. Spanish_Galicia (8.676)
2. Portuguese (9.360)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.64)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.37)
5. Spanish_Extremadura (11.79)
6. Spanish_Murcia (11.79)
7. French (12.16)
8. North_Italian (13.48)

Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.2)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.683)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.868)
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (8.557)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (8.922)

34. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55

1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.676)
2. Portuguese (8.073)
3. Spanish_Murcia (8.462)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.754)
5. Spanish_Galicia (9.017)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (9.229)
7. North_Italian (10.54)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (2.89)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (5.747)
Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (6.2)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.853)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (8.048)

16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33

Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (5.747)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (6.104)
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.714)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (7.295)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.494)

Here appears the Etruscan

1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.155)
2. Spanish_Murcia (7.269)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.528)
4. Spanish_Valencia (7.691)
5. Portuguese (8.220)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.433)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (8.449)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.936)


7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -

1. Spanish_Cantabria (8.376)
2. Spanish_Cataluna (9.761)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.05)
4. Spanish_Aragon (10.35)
5. Southwest_French (10.35)
6. Portuguese (10.55)
7. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.87)
8. Spanish_Galicia (10.99)

Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (7.295)

The Etruscan contains most of my main parties or they contain him.


1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -


1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.658)
2. Southwest_French (8.643)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (9.135)
4. Spanish_Aragon (9.296)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.648)
6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.15)
7. Portuguese (10.60)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.90)


Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)

2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2

1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.865)
2. Spanish_Galicia (6.952)
3. Portuguese (7.383)
4. Spanish_Cataluna (7.910)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.300)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.652)
7. Southwest_French (9.172)
8. Spanish_Murcia (9.750)


Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (6.617)
Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.032)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (7.311)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (7.667)

3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2


1. Spanish_Cantabria (7.572)
2. Southwest_French (9.243)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.80)
4. Spanish_Aragon (10.81)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.18)
6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (11.47)
7. Spanish_Galicia (11.60)
8. Portuguese (11.71)

Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (3.976)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.456)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.479)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.712)


11. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T

1. Spanish_Galicia (9.823)
2. Spanish_Cantabria (9.975)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.57)
4. Portuguese (11.15)
5. French (11.17)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.38)
7. Southwest_French (11.80)
8. Spanish_Extremadura (12.74)

Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (6.673)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (6.677)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.712)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (8.262)
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (9.331)

21. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b


1. French (6.063)
2. South_Dutch (9.720)
3. Southwest_English (10.93)
4. Spanish_Galicia (11.13)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.38)
6. West_German (11.50)
7. Welsh (11.84)
8. Portuguese (12.30)

Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) (7.384)
Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.216)
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (8.866)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (9.022)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (9.331)

116. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -


Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (5.175)
Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (6.136)
Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (7.095)
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (7.384)
Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) (7.844)

There was an Etruscan diaspora or how is this?

A round trip or were they like that? ​I have been glazed

torzio
29-11-19, 00:14
8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 -

1. Spanish_Extremadura (6.749)
2. Spanish_Murcia (6.887)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (6.957)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.206)
5. Spanish_Andalucia (7.233)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.494)
7. North_Italian (7.731)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.798)

Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (6.439)
Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (7.049)
Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.332)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (7.422)
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (7.43)

33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -

1. Portuguese (8.380)
2. Spanish_Murcia (8.547)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (8.557)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (9.096)
5. North_Italian (9.319)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.484)
7. Spanish_Galicia (9.666)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

Simiar Samples
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (2.89)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (6.104)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (7.366)
Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (7.683)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.879)

My identical results practically with Angela's. Seeing the similar ones the last samples of Rome appear. and the caliphato that is later but with Spain there is no sample before Rome for these samples.

If we go to:

40. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -

1. Portuguese (6.531)
2. Spanish_Galicia (7.016)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (7.329)
4. Spanish_Murcia (7.347)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.397)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (7.926)
7. North_Italian (10.51)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.52)

Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) (5.928)
Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.027)
Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) (6.684)
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.84)
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.853)

68. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 -

1. Spanish_Galicia (8.676)
2. Portuguese (9.360)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.64)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.37)
5. Spanish_Extremadura (11.79)
6. Spanish_Murcia (11.79)
7. French (12.16)
8. North_Italian (13.48)

Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (6.2)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (7.683)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.868)
Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (8.557)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (8.922)

34. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55

1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.676)
2. Portuguese (8.073)
3. Spanish_Murcia (8.462)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.754)
5. Spanish_Galicia (9.017)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (9.229)
7. North_Italian (10.54)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.79)

Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (2.89)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (5.747)
Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) (6.2)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.853)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (8.048)

16. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33

Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) (5.747)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) (6.104)
Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (6.714)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (7.295)
Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) (7.494)

Here appears the Etruscan

1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.155)
2. Spanish_Murcia (7.269)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.528)
4. Spanish_Valencia (7.691)
5. Portuguese (8.220)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.433)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (8.449)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.936)


7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -

1. Spanish_Cantabria (8.376)
2. Spanish_Cataluna (9.761)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.05)
4. Spanish_Aragon (10.35)
5. Southwest_French (10.35)
6. Portuguese (10.55)
7. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.87)
8. Spanish_Galicia (10.99)

Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (4.463)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (5.479)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (5.576)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.617)
Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) (7.295)

The Etruscan contains most of my main parties or they contain him.


1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -


1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.658)
2. Southwest_French (8.643)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (9.135)
4. Spanish_Aragon (9.296)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.648)
6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (10.15)
7. Portuguese (10.60)
8. Spanish_Valencia (10.90)


Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (3.976)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.576)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.682)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.677)
Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) (7.164)

2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2

1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.865)
2. Spanish_Galicia (6.952)
3. Portuguese (7.383)
4. Spanish_Cataluna (7.910)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.300)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.652)
7. Southwest_French (9.172)
8. Spanish_Murcia (9.750)


Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (6.617)
Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (7.032)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (7.311)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (7.667)

3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2


1. Spanish_Cantabria (7.572)
2. Southwest_French (9.243)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.80)
4. Spanish_Aragon (10.81)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.18)
6. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (11.47)
7. Spanish_Galicia (11.60)
8. Portuguese (11.71)

Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (3.976)
Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (5.456)
Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) (5.479)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (6.407)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (6.712)


11. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T

1. Spanish_Galicia (9.823)
2. Spanish_Cantabria (9.975)
3. Spanish_Cataluna (10.57)
4. Portuguese (11.15)
5. French (11.17)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (11.38)
7. Southwest_French (11.80)
8. Spanish_Extremadura (12.74)

Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) (6.673)
Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (6.677)
Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) (6.712)
Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) (8.262)
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (9.331)

21. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b


1. French (6.063)
2. South_Dutch (9.720)
3. Southwest_English (10.93)
4. Spanish_Galicia (11.13)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (11.38)
6. West_German (11.50)
7. Welsh (11.84)
8. Portuguese (12.30)

Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) (7.384)
Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.216)
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (8.866)
Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) (9.022)
Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) (9.331)

116. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -


Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (5.175)
Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (6.136)
Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (7.095)
Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (7.384)
Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) (7.844)

There was an Etruscan diaspora or how is this?

A round trip or were they like that? ​I have been glazed

















this is mine ......sample I3133 and R1 ( proto-villanovan ) are my main match in mytrueancestry

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18960-G25-Distance-Maps-To-Modern-Europeans&p=626037&viewfull=1#post626037

Carlos
29-11-19, 01:01
this is mine ......sample I3133 and R1 ( proto-villanovan ) are my main match in mytrueancestry

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18960-G25-Distance-Maps-To-Modern-Europeans&p=626037&viewfull=1#post626037

It is mine before. It was at Jackie's birth, Jackie's revenge.
Besides, I am more worried about another issue, it is yours to wear the medals, what does it matter.

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Eurasian, what is that? They are really going to drive me crazy, how the hell am I going to be Eurasian 96% if I'm Spanish.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--yoiBvhp6cI/XeBOOMhG9cI/AAAAAAAABkk/voWEcB_lfE83FVLcby33hA-97xBjDgw4ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/DNAland.DONUTJPEG.jpg

1.6% Ambiuo. It must be something like multipurpose that the same goes for a broken than for a rip. Do not be about those Neardhental or Dinosivasian beings of those.

Yuxx
29-11-19, 01:55
Here mine:

Roman + Thracian (5.896)
Roman (6.059)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.729)
Gallo-Roman (10.96)
Thracian (11.13)


1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.059 - SZ36 -
Top
99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.538 - SZ43 -
Top
99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 7.08 - CL36 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 8.604 - R1 -
Top
99% match vs all users

5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.984 - R60 -
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 9.183 - R970 -
Top
99% match vs all users

7. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.227 - BSS31
Top
99% match vs all users

8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.235 - SZ32 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.03 - NS3b - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

10. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 10.44 - R107 -
Top
99% match vs all users

11. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.96 - SZ28 - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

12. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 11.02 - R1290 -
Top
98% match vs all users

13. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 11.13 - I4332 -
Top
98% match vs all users

14. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 11.13 - I5769 -
Top
98% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 11.59 - NS3c - ?
Top
98% match vs all users

16. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 11.73 - scy192 -
Top
97% match vs all users

17. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.76 - R1540
Top
99% match vs all users

18. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 11.83 - R835 -
Top
98% match vs all users

19. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.0 - scy197b - ?
Top
96% match vs all users

20. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 12.61 - I2515
Top
95% match vs all users

21. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 12.79 - I2514
Top
96% match vs all users

22. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 12.79 - I12515 -
Top
95% match vs all users

23. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 12.82 - SZ45 -
Top
89% match vs all users

24. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 12.96 - I3313 -
Top
93% match vs all users

25. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 13.01 - OBS137 - ?
Top
95% match vs all users

26. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.29 - CL121 -
Top
95% match vs all users

27. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.58 - R54 -
Top
97% match vs all users

28. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.63 - R136 -
Top
94% match vs all users

29. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.72 - I7424 -
Top
98% match vs all users

30. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.76 - I3981 -
Top
96% match vs all users

31. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.9 - I4331 -
Top
94% match vs all users

32. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 13.92 - I3576 -
Top
98% match vs all users

33. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.04 - I2647
Top
97% match vs all users

34. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.06 - R973 -
Top
98% match vs all users

35. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 14.16 - R117 -
Top
95% match vs all users

36. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 14.17 - R57 -
Top
98% match vs all users

37. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 14.17 - I12031 -
Top
88% match vs all users

38. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.22 - SZ40 - ?
Top
94% match vs all users

39. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.23 - CL94 -
Top
91% match vs all users

40. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.41 - R55 -
Top
92% match vs all users

41. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.41 - I12514 -
Top
93% match vs all users

42. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 14.44 - I7425 -
Top
95% match vs all users

43. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.52 - I12647 -
Top
96% match vs all users

44. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.56 - I3575 -
Top
98% match vs all users

45. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 14.58 - SZ18 -
Top
78% match vs all users

46. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 14.88 - I3983 -
Top
98% match vs all users

47. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.9 - I3582 -
Top
96% match vs all users

48. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 14.9 - R118 -
Top
98% match vs all users

49. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 15.02 - R32 -
Top
98% match vs all users

50. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.11 - SI-41 -
Top
98% match vs all users

51. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.12 - I2649
Top
94% match vs all users

52. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 15.24 - R1283 -
Top
97% match vs all users

53. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 15.41 - SZ19 -
Top
95% match vs all users

54. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 15.46 - CL57 -
Top
82% match vs all users

55. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 15.52 - LSD021 - ?
Top
96% match vs all users

56. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.53 - I7498 -
Top
94% match vs all users

57. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.72 - R56 -
Top
94% match vs all users

58. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 15.72 - R47 -
Top
94% match vs all users

59. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 15.78 - DA199 -
Top
75% match vs all users

60. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 15.81 - R436 -
Top
94% match vs all users


Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC
R1



mtDNA: U5a2b
Total cM=28.75
Largest segment=11.15 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 94) - Your raw DNA is
11% closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

8.6 cM










Chr. 12

8.98 cM










Chr. 15

11.15 cM









Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD
R32



mtDNA: H2a1Y-DNA: I-CTS616
Total cM=14.49
Largest segment=10.93 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 42) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 2

3.55 cM










Chr. 5

10.93 cM









Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi
500 AD
R107



mtDNA: T2hY-DNA: E-V13
Total cM=7.98
Largest segment=7.98 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 69) - Your raw DNA is
22% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

7.98 cM









Hellenic Roman Marcellino
400 AD
R136



mtDNA: T2d2Y-DNA: J-L70
Total cM=7.84
Largest segment=7.84 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 76) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 20

7.84 cM









Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1110 AD
R64



mtDNA: HV0aY-DNA: G-Z6800
Total cM=13.4
Largest segment=6.77 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 78) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 2

6.77 cM










Chr. 6

6.63 cM









Central Roman San Ercolano
100 AD
R117



mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: J-M410
Total cM=6.21
Largest segment=6.21 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 54) - Your raw DNA is
28% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

6.21 cM









Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC
I4331



mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
Total cM=6.14
Largest segment=6.14 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
14% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

6.14 cM









Medieval Iberian
670 AD
CL23



mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
Total cM=9.48
Largest segment=5.83 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
49% closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

9.48 cM













Imperial Rome Marche CN
165 AD
R835



mtDNA: H2a5Y-DNA: J-P58
Total cM=4.81
Largest segment=4.81 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 37) - Your raw DNA is
15% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

4.81 cM









Iberian / Piedmont
670 AD
CL94



mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1b
Total cM=3.13
Largest segment=3.13 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
26% closer than other matching users


Chr. 22

3.13 cM









Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC
scy192



mtDNA: H8c
Total cM=3.13
Largest segment=3.13 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
4% closer than other matching users


Chr. 18

3.13 cM









Thuringii Tribe
420 AD
AED_1108



mtDNA: U4 ?
Total cM=2.43
Largest segment=2.43 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is
54% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

2.43 cM









Central Roman / Mixed
590 AD
SZ19



mtDNA: HV9c
Total cM=2.18
Largest segment=2.18 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
27% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

2.18 cM









Scythian Moldova
290 BC
scy311



mtDNA: T2b
Total cM=2.07
Largest segment=2.07 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
45% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

2.07 cM









Medieval Tyrolian
670 AD
CL53



mtDNA: H1c4Y-DNA: R1b
Total cM=2.04
Largest segment=2.04 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is
64% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

2.04 cM









Central Roman
670 AD
CL36



mtDNA: X2b ?
Total cM=1.82
Largest segment=1.82 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is
3% closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

1.82 cM









North Central Lombard
670 AD
CL63



mtDNA: H ?
Total cM=1.78
Largest segment=1.78 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
20% closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

1.78 cM









1. Tuscan (6.380)
2. North_Italian (7.489)
3. Kosovan (9.486)
4. Greek_Thessaly (10.38)
5. Bulgarian (12.04)
6. Greek (12.25)
7. Italian_Abruzzo (12.29)
8. Romanian (12.43)

torzio
29-11-19, 02:58
It is mine before. It was at Jackie's birth, Jackie's revenge.
Besides, I am more worried about another issue, it is yours to wear the medals, what does it matter.

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Eurasian, what is that? They are really going to drive me crazy, how the hell am I going to be Eurasian 96% if I'm Spanish.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--yoiBvhp6cI/XeBOOMhG9cI/AAAAAAAABkk/voWEcB_lfE83FVLcby33hA-97xBjDgw4ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/DNAland.DONUTJPEG.jpg

1.6% Ambiuo. It must be something like multipurpose that the same goes for a broken than for a rip. Do not be about those Neardhental or Dinosivasian beings of those.

eurasian is central asia ...kazaks people, uzbek people....basically east of the caspian sea and before china

Carlos
29-11-19, 05:45
eurasian is central asia ...kazaks people, uzbek people....basically east of the caspian sea and before china




Tengo que tener un mapa delante comprende a un posible político. ¿A esta zona se refiere usted aprox.?

Carlos
29-11-19, 06:04
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YECmj33VHVk/XeCXP4IpZBI/AAAAAAAABkw/QZtUSnOmlNQhn6900paiB9cg6qkmu0mpgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/dnaLANDmapaMundi.JPEG


Dna Land is with modern populations?

I will review the peoples of the sea, it is such a dreamlike and poetic name, and also speaks of them in the plural.



And this sepulchral silence?

Carlos
29-11-19, 17:50
My new hidden identity.


I think it's great with the VCF file. He treats me like I'm someone mixed relatively soon. The distances are great but it seems great to support my doctoral thesis.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hvQI1gjMnVA/XeE7xvPl4mI/AAAAAAAABk8/4eirDxWgdrwZJVKBwZcsw5e4UZ7uME2OACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/AlandalusGespids.JPEG

Now we are going to study my first 10 examples of my hidden identity, which is how I titled my doctoral thesis.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lctXX1Y9kU0/XeE7-lyoPCI/AAAAAAAABlA/106SxAlYSsYZMHTL_JHGIdj1CrrA9p0kgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient1.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gqFI2vhqaR4/XeE8B4CXSSI/AAAAAAAABlE/U2deZY40BlsYXA4Bx11A4hNPGYi02j3KQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient2.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-k7-683hs4-k/XeE8ErMApjI/AAAAAAAABlI/rlt4lGWUwz07QZAz_vhiFuR88d37U0dSQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient3.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J9yQNv0d5WY/XeE8Ia6kRfI/AAAAAAAABlM/R_4ESacPcfIR_RUOAy90ZP-9cxacsbzVwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient4.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VYhbKOLT3Tk/XeE8PO3zofI/AAAAAAAABlU/T8xX9No16p8xwqmAIJbd55mheQllscfzwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient5.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J-tU2X5OqFY/XeE8SeyEd7I/AAAAAAAABlY/-O3pUco-mzM7DW_t5PWDFQHQcUcUfBRKACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient6.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3eF0BNWOHJM/XeE8VqzN61I/AAAAAAAABlc/T9njj1BRvcoaqceirYW6QrWLXtJ_jExYQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient7.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DmHVAAEch1U/XeE8dJ5rAEI/AAAAAAAABlo/yNJ_rPK1BWM_A6m10tdl5Ge2odNIUnoAgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient8.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NAxzXGJVTdA/XeE8hO85i-I/AAAAAAAABlw/3vzG7UOHR2kig-gTqmalt-X7IaGXpzezACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient9.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hdL2m3VKCJc/XeE8j4K-M_I/AAAAAAAABl0/BQRu95ut770EyEhYOJxD6EzyKvoYCpoEQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient10.JPEG

Segments Mape


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1mUy3ulnq3o/XeFJC2wMBxI/AAAAAAAABmY/875Jw87WLhYO7CjeEvzE2LNhlxzHvfNigCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/segmentsdnaLAND.JPEG

torzio
29-11-19, 20:00
Tengo que tener un mapa delante comprende a un posible político. ¿A esta zona se refiere usted aprox.?

no exacting ............up to the west side of the caspian sea is always referred to as European

Salento
30-11-19, 01:17
2 Iron Age maps in my Ancestral Timelapse:

y T R850 and his Roman children :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/6JA9tMD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/brUJeZH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nxB3LzM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/u6QzUst.jpg

Carlos
30-11-19, 03:29
1st kit sample location
2nd kit sample location
Both kits share same location


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O-IEMNpCaMo/XeHD9MP-rsI/AAAAAAAABmk/mCc6C17qr1wiywecedae2Hnp6egqqLq9QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ComparationkitIdentidadOculta.JPEG
Comparison between kits
Hidden Identity versus Revealed Identity


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B4zWzGF7eR8/S9hrk4d3LVI/AAAAAAAAABU/Ye-0DpDeYfk/s1600/Dr_JekyllMr_Hyde.jpg

Salento
30-11-19, 03:56
1st kit sample location
2nd kit sample location
Both kits share same location


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O-IEMNpCaMo/XeHD9MP-rsI/AAAAAAAABmk/mCc6C17qr1wiywecedae2Hnp6egqqLq9QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/ComparationkitIdentidadOculta.JPEG
Comparison between kits
Hidden Identity versus Revealed Identity


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B4zWzGF7eR8/S9hrk4d3LVI/AAAAAAAAABU/Ye-0DpDeYfk/s1600/Dr_JekyllMr_Hyde.jpg



just in case, ... my previous Iron Age post refers to Normal raw-data,
(if I use the Imputed raw-data I will say so)

Imputed vs Combined:
https://i.imgur.com/lGaGnzB.jpg


Ancestry vs Combined:
https://i.imgur.com/XvzJbNp.jpg

Carlos
30-11-19, 04:06
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uN4Di8DEPf8/hqdefault.jpg

https://nilsendavid.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/dr-jekyll-mr-hyde-1932-11.jpg

I prefer the imputed, I needed something like that already. I can not stop laughing.

Salento
30-11-19, 04:21
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uN4Di8DEPf8/hqdefault.jpg

https://nilsendavid.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/dr-jekyll-mr-hyde-1932-11.jpg

I prefer the imputed, I needed something like that already. I can not stop laughing.

... as long as you specify which Alter Ego is doing the posting :)

(so we keep it real) :satisfied:

Jovialis
30-11-19, 04:43
New samples added today:

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 6.842 - R1548 -
Top
99% match vs all users

2. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.579 - SZ40 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

3. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 8.682 - R65 -
Top
99% match vs all users

4. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 8.8 - R136 -
Top
99% match vs all users

5. Hellenic Roman Casale del Dolce (145 AD) ..... 9.199 - R123 -
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 10.28 - CL38 -
Top
99% match vs all users

7. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 10.29 - R436 -
Top
99% match vs all users

8. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 10.54 - R34 -
Top
99% match vs all users

9. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 10.81 - R114 -
Top
98% match vs all users

10. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 10.87 - R133 -
Top
99% match vs all users

11. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 11.18 - CL121 -
Top
98% match vs all users

12. Hellenic Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 11.47 - R73 -
Top
98% match vs all users

13. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 11.99 - CL30 -
Top
98% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.08 - R58 -
Top
98% match vs all users

15. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.13 - R1290 -
Top
96% match vs all users

16. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.2 - R49 -
Top
97% match vs all users

17. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 12.28 - R47 -
Top
98% match vs all users

18. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.45 - R60 -
Top
96% match vs all users

19. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 12.46 - CL25 - ?
Top
98% match vs all users

20. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.52 - R30 -
Top
98% match vs all users

21. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.59 - R54 -
Top
98% match vs all users

22. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.6 - R117 -
Top
97% match vs all users

23. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.66 - R51 -
Top
98% match vs all users

24. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 12.7 - R125 -
Top
99% match vs all users

25. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 12.77 - R69 -
Top
99% match vs all users

26. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.28 - R56 -
Top
97% match vs all users

27. Central Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 13.32 - R1544 -
Top
99% match vs all users

28. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.46 - R835 -
Top
97% match vs all users

29. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.68 - SZ19 -
Top
96% match vs all users

30. Hellenic Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.72 - R115 -
Top
98% match vs all users

31. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.12 - SZ36 -
Top
92% match vs all users

32. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 14.39 - R137 -
Top
99% match vs all users

33. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 14.51 - R50 -
Top
97% match vs all users

34. Anatolian Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 14.51 - R1543 -
Top
97% match vs all users

35. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.52 - I9041 -
Top
97% match vs all users

36. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 14.54 - I9033 -
Top
98% match vs all users

37. Hellenic Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 14.6 - R1545 -
Top
98% match vs all users

38. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 14.63 - R107 -
Top
94% match vs all users

39. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.68 - R973 -
Top
98% match vs all users

40. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 14.69 - R64 -
Top
97% match vs all users

41. Anatolian/Hellenic Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 14.88 - R41 -
Top
98% match vs all users

42. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 15.03 - R134 -
Top
97% match vs all users

43. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 15.1 - Ker1 -
Top
98% match vs all users

44. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 15.14 - R57 -
Top
97% match vs all users

45. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 15.26 - I9006 -
Top
98% match vs all users

46. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.26 - R44 -
Top
99% match vs all users

47. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 15.26 - R437 -
Top
98% match vs all users

48. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ43 -
Top
92% match vs all users

49. Imperial Rome Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 15.42 - R75 -
Top
98% match vs all users

50. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.55 - R43 -
Top
99% match vs all users

51. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 15.63 - R969 -
Top
96% match vs all users

52. Hellenic Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 15.76 - R40 -
Top
98% match vs all users

53. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 15.82 - R850 -
Top
96% match vs all users

54. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 15.88 - I0184
Top
99% match vs all users

55. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.96 - BSS31
Top
93% match vs all users

56. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.96 - SZ32 - ?
Top
91% match vs all users

57. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 15.96 - MA2208 -
Top
98% match vs all users

58. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 16.05 - I5769 -
Top
96% match vs all users

59. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 16.11 - R76 -
Top
98% match vs all users

60. Anatolian Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.13 - R130 -
Top
98% match vs all users

61. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 16.44 - CL36 - ?
Top
90% match vs all users

62. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 16.46 - MA2198 - ?
Top
96% match vs all users

63. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 16.85 - I7499 -
Top
94% match vs all users

64. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.88 - R59 -
Top
96% match vs all users

65. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 16.91 - R35 -
Top
94% match vs all users

66. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 16.93 - I9010 -
Top
96% match vs all users

67. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.97 - SI-41 -
Top
95% match vs all users

68. Roman Outlier Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 17.03 - R1550 -
Top
97% match vs all users

69. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 17.04 - R71 -
Top
98% match vs all users

70. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 17.12 - R81 -
Top
97% match vs all users

71. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 17.15 - R128 -
Top
98% match vs all users

72. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.17 - R45 -
Top
96% match vs all users

73. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.18 - I3808 -
Top
94% match vs all users

74. Anatolian Roman Casale del Dolce (288 AD) ..... 17.19 - R126 -
Top
98% match vs all users

75. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.2 - R970 -
Top
90% match vs all users

76. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 17.24 - SI-53 -
Top
97% match vs all users

77. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 17.25 - MA2203 -
Top
97% match vs all users

78. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (99 AD) ..... 17.31 - R39 -
Top
98% match vs all users

79. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 17.55 - I3575 -
Top
92% match vs all users

80. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 17.63 - R131 -
Top
95% match vs all users

81. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 17.66 - R1540
Top
92% match vs all users

82. Hellenic/Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 18.65 - R66 -
Top
98% match vs all users

83. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 18.66 - R52 -
Top
93% match vs all users

84. Anatolia Bronze Age (1625 BC) ..... 18.73 - I2495 -
Top
98% match vs all users

85. Minoan (2000 BC) ..... 18.77 - I9129 -
Top
96% match vs all users

86. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 18.8 - R32 -
Top
94% match vs all users

87. Bronze Age Anatolia (2050 BC) ..... 18.98 - I2683 -
Top
98% match vs all users

88. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 19.12 - MA2205 -
Top
98% match vs all users

89. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 19.17 - R70 -
Top
97% match vs all users

90. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 19.23 - R78 -
Top
98% match vs all users

91. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 19.28 - MA2206 -
Top
98% match vs all users

92. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 19.39 - R72 -
Top
98% match vs all users

93. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 19.89 - I4930 -
Top
97% match vs all users

94. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 20.0 - R118 -
Top
92% match vs all users

95. Bronze Age Anatolia (2650 BC) ..... 20.18 - I2499 -
Top
98% match vs all users

96. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 20.3 - NS3c - ?
Top
85% match vs all users

97. Canaanite Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 20.35 - R1547 -
Top
96% match vs all users

98. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 20.48 - QED-2 -
Top
96% match vs all users

99. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 20.58 - R38 -
Top
97% match vs all users

100. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 20.58 - I3980 -
Top
93% match vs all users

Salento
30-11-19, 06:02
re-upload - Top 20 and Deep Dive map:

https://i.imgur.com/yerB2Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2UwtKRr.jpg

torzio
30-11-19, 06:09
re-upload - Top 20 and Deep Dive map:

https://i.imgur.com/yerB2Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2UwtKRr.jpg


my top 10 ......

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 -
Top 98% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.06 - SZ43 -
Top 98% match vs all users

9. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.11 - NS3c - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b - ?
Top 99% match vs all users


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a 2.3 gap between 1st and 2nd .......that is a lot


.................................................. ..

why is your first start at 10 ?

Salento
30-11-19, 06:45
@Torzio ...

Edit:

That was a Combined Kit, below is Ancestry,

https://i.imgur.com/Y1QRYIK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EHSKifZ.jpg


... this below goes with my previous post:

https://i.imgur.com/kt2hTaO.jpg

Carlos
30-11-19, 06:47
today's results.


9. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.21 - R109 -
Top
99% match vs all users

13. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.54 - R110 -
Top
99% match vs all users

15. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.78 - R108 -
Top
96% match vs all users

89. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.12 - R37 -
Top
99% match vs all users

101. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R36 -
Top
89% match vs all users

105. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.33 - R1016 -
Top
99% match vs all users
The term aristocrat does not know if it is used for the castle or for the Latino.

TardisBlue
30-11-19, 12:57
I upgraded to King.

https://i.ibb.co/58zqyjx/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-30-24.png
https://i.ibb.co/R3db8vt/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-29-48.png


https://i.ibb.co/MsLsMqR/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-27-32.png


https://i.ibb.co/98T9pfC/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-28-04.png


https://i.ibb.co/YLgKXPG/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-28-11.png


https://i.ibb.co/dKcty13/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-28-19.png
https://i.ibb.co/ydjhgKv/Capture-d-cran-2019-11-29-21-28-27.png




https://i.ibb.co/wrDM3Rn/Arche-Europe.png

New ones (I think) in the top 20:

9. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.57 - NS3b - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users
10. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 10.85 - R970 -
Top
99
% match vs all users
11. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.89 - R1540
Top
99
% match vs all users
15. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 11.71 - R60 -
Top
97
% match vs all users


16. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 11.98 - I7424 -
Top
99
% match vs all users
19. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.86 - R36 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

Duarte
30-11-19, 13:06
MTA - Last upgrade - Black Friday

https://i.imgur.com/ymBF8G3.png
https://i.imgur.com/ORd5RnV.png
https://i.imgur.com/Xx7osvX.png
https://i.imgur.com/S2JGQPl.gif
https://i.imgur.com/y5FqdFh.png


Enviado do meu iPhone usando Tapatalk

HiveMindTerror
30-11-19, 20:07
My results:

11645

11646

11647
11648
11649

continued

HiveMindTerror
30-11-19, 20:09
11650
11651
11652
11653
11654

I seem to have a lot of ancestry from the steppes

Angela
30-11-19, 20:27
11650
11651
11652
11653
11654

I seem to have a lot of ancestry from the steppes

Those are actually very bad fits.

Salento
30-11-19, 22:19
R - Toscani + Villa Magna:

2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.88 - R1290

https://i.imgur.com/aesR7Pg.jpg

6. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 11.81 - R56

https://i.imgur.com/HQWzy0j.jpg


8. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 11.97 - R58

https://i.imgur.com/DhnBn2g.jpg

12. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.3 - R60

https://i.imgur.com/K3NfnFb.jpg


18. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.87 - R65

https://i.imgur.com/KFlA8ai.jpg

27. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.04 - R54

https://i.imgur.com/bUDpgc8.jpg

42. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 15.42- R64

https://i.imgur.com/agwG94d.jpg

49. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.11 - R59

https://i.imgur.com/MEp7An6.jpg


52. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.17 - R52
No deep dive

58. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 16.73- R57

https://i.imgur.com/93YfhOj.jpg

Angela
30-11-19, 22:22
Salento, what are your overall fits for the Villa Magna ones?

HiveMindTerror
30-11-19, 22:22
Those are actually very bad fits.
Yeah it doesn't make much sense to me

Angela
30-11-19, 22:25
Yeah it doesn't make much sense to me

What I meant was that you're not very similar to them at all.

What are your matches under, say, 13-15?

Stuvanè
30-11-19, 22:44
My Archaeogenetic matches updated

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
Top
99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
Top
99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.298 - SZ36 -
Top
99% match vs all users

4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
Top
99% match vs all users

5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
Top
99% match vs all users

8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
Top
98% match vs all users

10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
Top
94% match vs all users

12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
Top
99% match vs all users

13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
Top
99% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
Top
99% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
Top
96% match vs all users

17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
Top
98% match vs all users

18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
Top
97% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
Top
96% match vs all users

20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.76 - R117 -
Top
97% match vs all users

21. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.92 - R35 -
Top
98% match vs all users

22. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
Top
98% match vs all users

23. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
Top
94% match vs all users

24. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 13.43 - I12515 -
Top
94% match vs all users

25. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
Top
98% match vs all users

26. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
Top
99% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
Top
94% match vs all users

28. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 13.74 - R114 -
Top
94% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.82 - I3981 -
Top
95% match vs all users

30. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
Top
97% match vs all users

31. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
Top
95% match vs all users

32. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 13.95 - SI-53 -
Top
99% match vs all users

33. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
Top
97% match vs all users

34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
Top
98% match vs all users

35. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
Top
98% match vs all users

36. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.38 - SI-41 -
Top
98% match vs all users

37. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
Top
94% match vs all users

38. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.54 - R56 -
Top
95% match vs all users

39. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 14.62 - LSD021 - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

40. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
Top
93% match vs all users

41. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
Top
96% match vs all users

42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
Top
96% match vs all users

43. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.99 - CL57 -
Top
84% match vs all users

44. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 15.09 - R36 -
Top
93% match vs all users

45. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 15.11 - R121 -
Top
99% match vs all users

46. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
Top
89% match vs all users

47. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.35 - I7499 -
Top
96% match vs all users

48. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 15.54 - R1287 -
Top
94% match vs all users

49. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.54 - I2644
Top
95% match vs all users

50. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 15.61 - I3585 -
Top
94% match vs all users

51. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.63 - R54 -
Top
93% match vs all users

52. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 15.79 - I3982 -
Top
95% match vs all users

53. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 15.81 - SZ19 -
Top
94% match vs all users

54. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 15.87 - R111 -
Top
97% match vs all users

55. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 15.9 - R58 -
Top
94% match vs all users

56. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 16.04 - I3581 -
Top
96% match vs all users

57. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 16.06 - R1283 -
Top
97% match vs all users

58. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.08 - I12644 -
Top
95% match vs all users

59. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.38 - R136 -
Top
92% match vs all users

60. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 16.39 - R47 -
Top
94% match vs all users

61. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 16.42 - I7498 -
Top
93% match vs all users

62. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.48 - R131 -
Top
97% match vs all users

63. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.54 - SZ45 -
Top
69% match vs all users

64. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.54 - R49 -
Top
93% match vs all users

65. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 16.55 - CL94 -
Top
86% match vs all users

66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
Top
94% match vs all users

67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
Top
89% match vs all users

68. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 17.07 - R836 -
Top
99% match vs all users

69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
Top
93% match vs all users

70. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 17.32 - I3576 -
Top
94% match vs all users

71. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 17.6 - I12514 -
Top
88% match vs all users

72. Imperial Rome San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.66 - R122 -
Top
99% match vs all users

73. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 17.68 - AEH_1 - ?
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94% match vs all users

74. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.73 - R969 -
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92% match vs all users

75. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.76 - R120 -
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97% match vs all users

76. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R30 -
Top
93% match vs all users

77. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 17.9 - R55 -
Top
86% match vs all users

78. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
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92% match vs all users

79. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1548 -
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92% match vs all users

80. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 18.22 - I12031 -
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73% match vs all users

81. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
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94% match vs all users

82. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 18.38 - I4332 -
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88% match vs all users

83. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 18.46 - R33 -
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90% match vs all users

84. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 18.63 - SZ40 - ?
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90% match vs all users

85. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 18.75 - R436 -
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91% match vs all users

86. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 18.85 - R1285 -
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94% match vs all users

87. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.91 - CL63 - ?
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40% match vs all users

88. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 18.95 - R50 -
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93% match vs all users

89. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 18.97 - I3983 -
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92% match vs all users

90. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 19.08 - R113 -
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98% match vs all users

91. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.22 - SZ18 -
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44% match vs all users

92. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 19.25 - R65 -
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91% match vs all users

93. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 19.38 - I3980 -
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95% match vs all users

94. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 19.42 - R118 -
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93% match vs all users

95. Central Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 19.5 - R1544 -
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93% match vs all users

96. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
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92% match vs all users

97. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.83 - I2649
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85% match vs all users

98. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.92 - I2647
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90% match vs all users

99. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 19.94 - R105 -
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91% match vs all users

100. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 20.06 - AED_1108 - ?
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39% match vs all users

Stuvanè
30-11-19, 22:48
... and this Villa Magna is like the old bad penny... ;)


Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD
R1287



mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R-U152
Total cM=46.62
Largest segment=46.62 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 59) - Your raw DNA is
25% closer than other matching users


Chr. 9

46.62 cM









Medieval Iberian
670 AD
CL23



mtDNA: HV1a1aY-DNA: T1a
Total cM=32.35
Largest segment=23.21 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
58% closer than other matching users


Chr. 16

23.21 cM











Chr. 20

9.13 cM









Imperial Rome Via Paisiello
100 AD
R131



mtDNA: T1a12Y-DNA: G-FGC5089
Total cM=29.63
Largest segment=20.03 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 37) - Your raw DNA is
75% closer than other matching users


Chr. 10

6.19 cM











Chr. 16

23.43 cM













Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC
R1



mtDNA: U5a2b
Total cM=73.02
Largest segment=18.99 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 94) - Your raw DNA is
46% closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

18.99 cM











Chr. 6

11.79 cM











Chr. 8

14.4 cM











Chr. 17

10.28 cM











Chr. 19

17.55 cM









Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1110 AD
R64



mtDNA: HV0aY-DNA: G-Z6800
Total cM=27.49
Largest segment=15.91 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 78) - Your raw DNA is
53% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

11.57 cM











Chr. 19

15.91 cM









Medieval Villa Magna Italy
905 AD
R59



mtDNA: N1b1aY-DNA: E-V12
Total cM=20.92
Largest segment=12.88 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 68) - Your raw DNA is
32% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

8.03 cM











Chr. 20

12.88 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle
282 AD
R47



mtDNA: J1c1cY-DNA: G-M406
Total cM=20.51
Largest segment=12.4 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 60) - Your raw DNA is
42% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

8.11 cM











Chr. 19

12.4 cM









Hellenic Roman Marcellino
400 AD
R136



mtDNA: T2d2Y-DNA: J-L70
Total cM=19.31
Largest segment=10.55 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 76) - Your raw DNA is
29% closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

8.75 cM











Chr. 12

10.55 cM









Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
905 AD
R60



mtDNA: T2c1
Total cM=15.85
Largest segment=9.31 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 77) - Your raw DNA is
40% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

9.31 cM











Chr. 19

6.54 cM









Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
860 AD
R1283



mtDNA: H12Y-DNA: J-M12
Total cM=16.2
Largest segment=9.08 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 56) - Your raw DNA is
64% closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

9.08 cM











Chr. 11

7.12 cM









Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC
I4331



mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
Total cM=19.15
Largest segment=8.57 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
91% closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

3.61 cM











Chr. 2

8.57 cM











Chr. 14

3.42 cM











Chr. 19

3.54 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle
200 AD
R49



mtDNA: H1u
Total cM=13.63
Largest segment=8.22 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 62) - Your raw DNA is
41% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

8.22 cM











Chr. 17

5.4 cM









Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital
500 AD
R36



mtDNA: T1a1Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2b3c
Total cM=8.07
Largest segment=8.07 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 63) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 3

8.07 cM









Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1110 AD
R57



mtDNA: I1a1a3
Total cM=7.42
Largest segment=7.42 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 60) - Your raw DNA is
7% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

7.42 cM









Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello
100 AD
R114



mtDNA: U1b1
Total cM=7.16
Largest segment=7.16 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 61) - Your raw DNA is
45% closer than other matching users


Chr. 20

7.16 cM









Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD
R56



mtDNA: U5b3f
Total cM=6.71
Largest segment=6.71 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 51) - Your raw DNA is
15% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

6.71 cM









Scythian Moldova
290 BC
scy311



mtDNA: T2b
Total cM=6.63
Largest segment=6.63 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is
19% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

6.63 cM









Carthago Outlier San Ercolano
500 AD
R121



mtDNA: H17
Total cM=6.24
Largest segment=6.24 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 39) - Your raw DNA is
22% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

6.24 cM









Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD
R32



mtDNA: H2a1Y-DNA: I-CTS616
Total cM=6.03
Largest segment=6.03 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is
30% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

6.03 cM









Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7499



mtDNA: H5
Total cM=14.31
Largest segment=5.65 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is
72% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

5.65 cM











Chr. 18

4.53 cM











Chr. 19

4.13 cM









Imperial Rome Centocelle
200 AD
R51



mtDNA: U3b1
Total cM=5.4
Largest segment=5.4 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 54) - Your raw DNA is
23% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

5.4 cM









Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I12515



mtDNA: H3Y-DNA: J2a
Total cM=5.36
Largest segment=5.36 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 31) - Your raw DNA is
33% closer than other matching users


Chr. 12

5.36 cM









Hellenic Roman / Calabria
670 AD
CL25



mtDNA: H2c1 ?
Total cM=6.94
Largest segment=5.11 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is
71% closer than other matching users


Chr. 10

1.83 cM











Chr. 11

5.11 cM









Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7498



mtDNA: H3a1Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a
Total cM=11.44
Largest segment=4.67 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 34) - Your raw DNA is
91% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

4.67 cM











Chr. 7

3.55 cM











Chr. 19

3.21 cM









Late Iron Age Butkara
10 AD
I6549



mtDNA: M30 ?
Total cM=4.61
Largest segment=4.61 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 26) - Your raw DNA is
47% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

4.61 cM









Latin Tribe Ardea
650 BC
R850



mtDNA: T2c1fY-DNA: T-L208
Total cM=7.84
Largest segment=4.47 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is
60% closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

3.36 cM











Chr. 16

4.47 cM









Iberian / Piedmont
670 AD
CL94



mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1b
Total cM=8.17
Largest segment=4.23 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
59% closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

4.23 cM











Chr. 12

3.93 cM









Central Roman
670 AD
CL121



mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R1b
Total cM=5.9
Largest segment=4.19 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
55% closer than other matching users


Chr. 12

1.71 cM











Chr. 18

4.19 cM









Central Roman Celio Military Hospital
500 AD
R35



mtDNA: H32
Total cM=7.35
Largest segment=4.03 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 40) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 19

7.35 cM













Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC
I4332



mtDNA: W3a1
Total cM=7.27
Largest segment=3.88 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is
66% closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

3.38 cM











Chr. 22

3.88 cM









Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
100 AD
R111



mtDNA: HY-DNA: R-PF7589
Total cM=3.87
Largest segment=3.87 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 38) - Your raw DNA is
4% closer than other matching users


Chr. 19

3.87 cM









Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi
500 AD
R109



mtDNA: H1ba
Total cM=3.29
Largest segment=3.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 33) - (Sample is too new for user comparison)


Chr. 12

3.29 cM









Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD
NS3b



mtDNA: I5a1 ?
Total cM=3.27
Largest segment=3.27 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 37) - Your raw DNA is
10% closer than other matching users


Chr. 19

3.27 cM









Thuringii Tribe
420 AD
AED_1108



mtDNA: U4 ?
Total cM=3.06
Largest segment=3.06 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is
19% closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

3.06 cM









Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC
scy192



mtDNA: H8c
Total cM=4.8
Largest segment=2.54 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is
51% closer than other matching users


Chr. 12

2.26 cM











Chr. 15

2.54 cM









Hellenic Roman / Cretan
670 AD
CL38



mtDNA: X2Y-DNA: E1b
Total cM=6.49
Largest segment=2.33 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
81% closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

1.88 cM











Chr. 11

2.27 cM











Chr. 19

2.33 cM









Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy300



mtDNA: H5
Total cM=2.22
Largest segment=2.22 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 27) - Your raw DNA is
27% closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

2.22 cM









Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC
scy197b



mtDNA: U5a1a1 ?
Total cM=2.08
Largest segment=2.08 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is
5% closer than other matching users


Chr. 16

2.08 cM









Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea
900 BC
MJ12



mtDNA: H35
Total cM=2.05
Largest segment=2.05 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is
11% closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

2.05 cM









Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
2775 BC
I3499



mtDNA: T2eY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a2
Total cM=1.95
Largest segment=1.95 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
18% closer than other matching users


Chr. 16

1.95 cM









Central Roman
590 AD
SZ32



mtDNA: H74 ?
Total cM=1.9
Largest segment=1.9 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
61% closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

1.9 cM









North Central Lombard
670 AD
CL63



mtDNA: H ?
Total cM=1.72
Largest segment=1.72 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
31% closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

1.72 cM

Angela
30-11-19, 23:30
My Archaeogenetic matches updated

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
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99
% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.298 - SZ36 -
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99
% match vs all users

4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
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99
% match vs all users

5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
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99
% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
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99
% match vs all users

7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
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99
% match vs all users

8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
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99
% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
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98
% match vs all users

10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
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97
% match vs all users

11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
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94
% match vs all users

12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
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99
% match vs all users

13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
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99
% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
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99
% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
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97
% match vs all users

16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
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96
% match vs all users

17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
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98
% match vs all users

18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
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97
% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
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96
% match vs all users

20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.76 - R117 -
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97
% match vs all users

21. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.92 - R35 -
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98
% match vs all users

22. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
Top
98
% match vs all users

23. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
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94
% match vs all users

24. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 13.43 - I12515 -
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94
% match vs all users

25. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
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98
% match vs all users

26. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
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99
% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
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94
% match vs all users

28. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 13.74 - R114 -
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94
% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.82 - I3981 -
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95
% match vs all users

30. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
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97
% match vs all users

31. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
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95
% match vs all users

32. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 13.95 - SI-53 -
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99
% match vs all users

33. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
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97
% match vs all users

34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
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98
% match vs all users

35. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
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98
% match vs all users

36. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.38 - SI-41 -
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98
% match vs all users

37. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
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94
% match vs all users

38. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.54 - R56 -
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95
% match vs all users

39. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 14.62 - LSD021 - ?
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97
% match vs all users

40. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
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93
% match vs all users

41. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
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96
% match vs all users

42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
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96
% match vs all users

43. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 14.99 - CL57 -
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84
% match vs all users

44. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 15.09 - R36 -
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93
% match vs all users

45. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 15.11 - R121 -
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99
% match vs all users

46. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
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89
% match vs all users

47. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.35 - I7499 -
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96
% match vs all users

48. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 15.54 - R1287 -
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94
% match vs all users

49. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.54 - I2644
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95
% match vs all users

50. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 15.61 - I3585 -
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94
% match vs all users

51. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.63 - R54 -
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93
% match vs all users

52. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 15.79 - I3982 -
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95
% match vs all users

53. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 15.81 - SZ19 -
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94
% match vs all users

54. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 15.87 - R111 -
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97
% match vs all users

55. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 15.9 - R58 -
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94
% match vs all users

56. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 16.04 - I3581 -
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96
% match vs all users

57. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 16.06 - R1283 -
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97
% match vs all users

58. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.08 - I12644 -
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95
% match vs all users

59. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.38 - R136 -
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92
% match vs all users

60. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 16.39 - R47 -
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94
% match vs all users

61. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 16.42 - I7498 -
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93
% match vs all users

62. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.48 - R131 -
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97
% match vs all users

63. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.54 - SZ45 -
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69
% match vs all users

64. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.54 - R49 -
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93
% match vs all users

65. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 16.55 - CL94 -
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86
% match vs all users

66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
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94
% match vs all users

67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
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89
% match vs all users

68. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 17.07 - R836 -
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99
% match vs all users

69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
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93
% match vs all users

70. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 17.32 - I3576 -
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94
% match vs all users

71. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 17.6 - I12514 -
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88
% match vs all users

72. Imperial Rome San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.66 - R122 -
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99
% match vs all users

73. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 17.68 - AEH_1 - ?
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94
% match vs all users

74. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.73 - R969 -
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92
% match vs all users

75. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.76 - R120 -
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97
% match vs all users

76. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R30 -
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93
% match vs all users

77. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 17.9 - R55 -
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86
% match vs all users

78. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
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92
% match vs all users

79. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1548 -
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92
% match vs all users

80. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 18.22 - I12031 -
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73
% match vs all users

81. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
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94
% match vs all users

82. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 18.38 - I4332 -
Top
88
% match vs all users

83. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 18.46 - R33 -
Top
90
% match vs all users

84. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 18.63 - SZ40 - ?
Top
90
% match vs all users

85. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 18.75 - R436 -
Top
91
% match vs all users

86. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 18.85 - R1285 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

87. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 18.91 - CL63 - ?
Top
40
% match vs all users

88. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 18.95 - R50 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

89. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 18.97 - I3983 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

90. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 19.08 - R113 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

91. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 19.22 - SZ18 -
Top
44
% match vs all users

92. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 19.25 - R65 -
Top
91
% match vs all users

93. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 19.38 - I3980 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

94. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 19.42 - R118 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

95. Central Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 19.5 - R1544 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

96. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

97. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.83 - I2649
Top
85
% match vs all users

98. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.92 - I2647
Top
90
% match vs all users

99. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 19.94 - R105 -
Top
91
% match vs all users

100. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 20.06 - AED_1108 - ?
Top
39
% match vs all users

Looks very familiar. :)

I'm resisting giving these people more money. How much is it to get the next 40 matches?

Salento
30-11-19, 23:35
Salento, what are your overall fits for the Villa Magna ones?

My Villa Magna results below :)
(my Villa Magna deep dives are in my previous post)

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.39 - R1548 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.88 - R1290 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

3. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 11.19 - R114 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

4. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 11.31 - R49 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.62 - SZ36 -
Top
96
% match vs all users


Villa Magna:


6. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 11.81 - R56 -
Top
98 % match vs all users


8. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 11.97 - R58 -
Top
98 % match vs all users


12. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.3 - R60 -
Top
96 % match vs all users


18. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.87 - R65 -
Top
96 % match vs all users


27. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.04 - R54 -
Top
95 % match vs all users


42. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 15.42- R64 -
Top
96 % match vs all users


49. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.11 - R59 -
Top
97 % match vs all users


52. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.17 - R52 -
Top
97 % match vs all users


58. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 16.73- R57 -
Top
95 % match vs all users

Angela
30-11-19, 23:39
My Villa Magna results below :)
(my Villa Magna deep dives are in my previous post)

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.39 - R1548 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.88 - R1290 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

3. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 11.19 - R114 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

4. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 11.31 - R49 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.62 - SZ36 -
Top
96
% match vs all users


Villa Magna:


6. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 11.81 - R56 -
Top
98 % match vs all users


8. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 11.97 - R58 -
Top
98 % match vs all users


12. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.3 - R60 -
Top
96 % match vs all users


18. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.87 - R65 -
Top
96 % match vs all users


27. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.04 - R54 -
Top
95 % match vs all users


42. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 15.42- R64 -
Top
96 % match vs all users


49. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.11 - R59 -
Top
97 % match vs all users


52. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.17 - R52 -
Top
97 % match vs all users


58. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 16.73- R57 -
Top
95 % match vs all users





Thanks, Salento.

torzio
30-11-19, 23:51
my top 10 ......

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 -
Top 98% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.06 - SZ43 -
Top 98% match vs all users

9. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.11 - NS3c - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b - ?
Top 99% match vs all users


.................................................. ...

a 2.3 gap between 1st and 2nd .......that is a lot


.................................................. ..

why is your first start at 10 ?


my first cousin. once removed from Val di Non, Trentino ........................I did not bother about getting the ones beginning with 10.0



1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 -
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

6. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.27 - R970 -
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 8.921 - scy197b - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

torzio
30-11-19, 23:55
my first cousin. once removed from Val di Non, Trentino ........................I did not bother about getting the ones beginning with 10.0



1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 -
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

6. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.27 - R970 -
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 8.921 - scy197b - ?
Top 99% match vs all users



my wife new test .................I did not bother with the ones beginning with 11.0


1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 8.97 - DA199 -
Top 98% match vs all users

3. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 10.04 - SZ18 -
Top 95% match vs all users

4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 10.12 - CL94 -
Top 97% match vs all users

HiveMindTerror
01-12-19, 00:04
What I meant was that you're not very similar to them at all.

What are your matches under, say, 13-15?
I don't seem to have any

Salento
01-12-19, 00:22
Total (too many?) :thinking:

The first 10, 15, or 20 is probably a better number, anyway :)


https://i.imgur.com/kt2hTaO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hyqJKbC.gif

Carlos
01-12-19, 03:17
^^
Top Roman

Let's go there

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)


1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2
Top
99
% match vs all users

4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

9. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.21 - R109 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

10. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

11. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.46 - R105 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

12. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T -
Top
98
% match vs all users

13. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.54 - R110 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 11.72 - R63 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

15. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.78 - R108 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

16. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 11.94 - R1219 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

17. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

18. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

19. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

20. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

21. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

22. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

23. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

24. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b
Top
75
% match vs all users

25. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 13.45 - CL57 -
Top
90
% match vs all users

26. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 13.46 - STR_535 - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users

27. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 13.46 - I3585 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

28. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 13.49 - I3238 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

29. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

30. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 13.64 - R473 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

31. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 13.81 - R1021 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

32. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 13.84 - R1289 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

33. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.88 - R116 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

34. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 13.89 - DA198 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

35. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ28 - ?
Top
94
% match vs all users

36. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

37. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

38. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 14.14 - I12879 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

39. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.25 - I4332 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

40. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 14.25 - I12208 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

41. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 14.27 - I2416-BB -
Top
99
% match vs all users

42. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.28 - scy197b - ?
Top
94
% match vs all users

43. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.42 - I3759 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

44. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

45. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 14.55 - PCA36 - ?
Top
83
% match vs all users

46. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.59 - I2649
Top
94
% match vs all users

47. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.59 - I3758 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

48. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.61 - SI-40 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

49. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

50. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

51. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.64 - I12515 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 14.67 - MJ12 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

53. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

54. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 14.73 - I3777 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

55. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 14.75 - I12410 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

56. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.78 - I2472 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

57. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.87 - scy305 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

58. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 15.05 - R435 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

59. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.08 - scy192 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

60. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.24 - OBS137 - ?
Top
90
% match vs all users

61. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.28 - R61 -
Top
89
% match vs all users

62. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 15.36 - I2515
Top
92
% match vs all users

63. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 15.38 - I8209 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

64. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 15.54 - I7497 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

65. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.66 - scy311 -
Top
62
% match vs all users

66. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 15.68 - I8214 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

67. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 15.71 - I2478 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

68. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 15.77 - I7673 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

69. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 15.88 - R1015 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

70. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.95 - I12516 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

71. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.03 - I12644 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

72. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 - ?
Top
90
% match vs all users

73. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 16.23 - VAD001 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

74. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 16.3 - R1285 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

75. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 16.35 - LM_306_T -
Top
53
% match vs all users

76. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 16.45 - I3982 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

77. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.49 - I2644
Top
94
% match vs all users

78. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 16.5 - AEH_1 - ?
Top
95
% match vs all users

79. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.58 - I7425 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

80. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 16.6 - I3493 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

81. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 16.61 - I12641 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

82. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 16.67 - I3327 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

83. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 16.7 - I2514
Top
91
% match vs all users

84. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 16.78 - scy304 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

85. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

86. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97 - R1 -
Top
88
% match vs all users

87. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 17.01 - I3321 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

88. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45 -
Top
65
% match vs all users

89. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.12 - R37 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

90. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 17.17 - BIM33
Top
69
% match vs all users

91. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 17.36 - I12877 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

92. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.38 - CL47 - ?
Top
47
% match vs all users

93. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen (950 AD) ..... 17.48 - KT09 - ?
Top
72
% match vs all users

94. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

95. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.51 - R851 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

96. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.58 - I3981 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

97. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 17.6 - I1840 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

98. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 17.64 - OBS116 - ?
Top
52
% match vs all users

99. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 17.66 - VAD005 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

100. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 17.78 - I8203 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

101. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R36 -
Top
89
% match vs all users

102. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 17.94 - CL63 - ?
Top
44
% match vs all users

103. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.08 - Rise577 -
Top
47
% match vs all users

104. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 18.18 - NS3c - ?
Top
89
% match vs all users

105. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.33 - R1016 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

106. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

107. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 18.47 - VO10207
Top
99
% match vs all users

108. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 18.52 - DA195 -
Top
84
% match vs all users

109. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 18.56 - GTE-A1 -
Top
48
% match vs all users

110. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 18.75 - R62 -
Top
43
% match vs all users

111. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

112. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 18.89 - DA111 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

113. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 18.92 - I2471 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

114. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 18.96 - I3776 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

115. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.01 - I2470 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

116. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.12 - I12647 -
Top
90
% match vs all users

117. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199 -
Top
47
% match vs all users

118. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 -
Top
44
% match vs all users

119. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -
Top
40
% match vs all users

120. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.78 - VAD004 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

121. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647
Top
90
% match vs all users

122. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.86 - I7162 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

123. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 - ?
Top
40
% match vs all users

124. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 - ?
Top
80
% match vs all users

125. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 19.96 - I3874 -
Top
60
% match vs all users

126. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 - ?
Top
37
% match vs all users

127. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 19.97 - AED513 - ?
Top
50
% match vs all users

128. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 -
Top
90
% match vs all users

129. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 20.28 - G274 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

130. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 20.54 - I3757 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

131. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 20.68 - I3490 -
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132. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 -
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133. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 -
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134. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 -
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135. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 -
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136. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 -
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137. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 -
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138. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe (1305 AD) ..... 21.39 - G397 -
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139. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 -
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140. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 -
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141. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.51 - I5471 -
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142. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 -
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143. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.6 - SZ23 -
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144. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.61 - I1388 -
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145. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 21.64 - MJ37 -
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146. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.66 - ORE-A1 -
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147. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton (700 AD) ..... 21.66 - HinxtonO2 -
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148. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 21.79 - I7424 -
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149. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.86 - 3DRIF-16 -
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150. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.96 - I3581 -
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Who doesn't like me not to look at me I love it, I'm sorry I can't help it.

Salento
01-12-19, 04:26
@Carlos many people, especially Iberians, want to see your Results,

I say that Viewers outnumber Posters by a lot.

Guests and members will go through the results that interest them.

Carlos
01-12-19, 05:43
@Carlos many people, especially Iberians, want to see your Results,

I say that Viewers outnumber Posters by a lot.

Guests and members will go through the results that interest them.

Yes, sometimes we forget it, but many people do not intervene and are spectators, we would be overwhelmed if we knew all the people who are watching and following us without intervening.


Do not worry about my final phase is a sense of black humor, innocent, I never get angry at all, but sometimes you have to pretend that you do it as with small children, but at all, well sometimes yes, but do not worry about Overall is a good atmosphere.

Stuvanè
01-12-19, 11:04
Looks very familiar. :)

I'm resisting giving these people more money. How much is it to get the next 40 matches?

@Angela,

at work they paid me my overtime some days ago, so I granted the upgrade from the Caesar level to Zeus: it cost me € 50, but I don't know if it's the same price range for the USA. I must say that the existence with this passage has not changed much for me... ;)


(However I agree with Pax in considering it a still rather approximate tool, with good potential, but that is used and proposed by the same managers in a somewhat fatuous way and to collect money from curious people like us)

Duarte
01-12-19, 12:13
For international (non-European) users the prices are fixed in US dollars.

https://i.imgur.com/NqvQJgo.jpg

Duarte
01-12-19, 12:36
^^
Top Roman

Let's go there

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)


1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -
Top
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2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2
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99
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3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2
Top
99
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4. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 -
Top
98
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5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 -
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6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 -
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7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -
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8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 -
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9. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.21 - R109 -
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10. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 -
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11. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.46 - R105 -
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12. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T -
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13. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.54 - R110 -
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14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 11.72 - R63 -
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15. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.78 - R108 -
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16. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 11.94 - R1219 -
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96
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17. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 -
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18. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 -
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19. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33 -
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20. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 -
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21. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 -
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22. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 -
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23. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 -
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24. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b
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25. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 13.45 - CL57 -
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26. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 13.46 - STR_535 - ?
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27. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 13.46 - I3585 -
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28. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 13.49 - I3238 -
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29. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475 -
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30. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 13.64 - R473 -
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31. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 13.81 - R1021 -
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32. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 13.84 - R1289 -
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33. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.88 - R116 -
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34. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 13.89 - DA198 -
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35. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ28 - ?
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36. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -
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37. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55 -
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38. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 14.14 - I12879 -
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39. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.25 - I4332 -
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94
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40. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 14.25 - I12208 -
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41. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 14.27 - I2416-BB -
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42. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.28 - scy197b - ?
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94
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43. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.42 - I3759 -
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44. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -
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93
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45. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 14.55 - PCA36 - ?
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83
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46. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.59 - I2649
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94
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47. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.59 - I3758 -
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48. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.61 - SI-40 -
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49. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 -
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50. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 -
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51. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.64 - I12515 -
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52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 14.67 - MJ12 -
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53. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287 -
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95
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54. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 14.73 - I3777 -
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55. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 14.75 - I12410 -
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56. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.78 - I2472 -
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99
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57. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.87 - scy305 -
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95
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58. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 15.05 - R435 -
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99
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59. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.08 - scy192 -
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94
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60. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.24 - OBS137 - ?
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90
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61. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.28 - R61 -
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89
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62. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 15.36 - I2515
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63. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 15.38 - I8209 -
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64. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 15.54 - I7497 -
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65. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.66 - scy311 -
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62
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66. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 15.68 - I8214 -
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67. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 15.71 - I2478 -
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68. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 15.77 - I7673 -
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69. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 15.88 - R1015 -
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98
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70. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.95 - I12516 -
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95
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71. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.03 - I12644 -
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72. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 - ?
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90
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73. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 16.23 - VAD001 -
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99
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74. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 16.3 - R1285 -
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96
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75. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 16.35 - LM_306_T -
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53
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76. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) ..... 16.45 - I3982 -
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95
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77. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.49 - I2644
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94
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78. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 16.5 - AEH_1 - ?
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95
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79. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.58 - I7425 -
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92
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80. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 16.6 - I3493 -
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99
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81. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 16.61 - I12641 -
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97
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82. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 16.67 - I3327 -
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83. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 16.7 - I2514
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91
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84. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 16.78 - scy304 -
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98
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85. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457 -
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96
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86. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97 - R1 -
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88
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87. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 17.01 - I3321 -
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88. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45 -
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65
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89. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.12 - R37 -
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99
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90. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 17.17 - BIM33
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69
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91. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 17.36 - I12877 -
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92. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) ..... 17.38 - CL47 - ?
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47
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93. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen (950 AD) ..... 17.48 - KT09 - ?
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72
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94. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324 -
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99
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95. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.51 - R851 -
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99
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96. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.58 - I3981 -
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92
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97. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 17.6 - I1840 -
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99
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98. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 17.64 - OBS116 - ?
Top
52
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99. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 17.66 - VAD005 -
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99
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100. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 17.78 - I8203 -
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98
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101. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R36 -
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89
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102. North Central Lombard (670 AD) ..... 17.94 - CL63 - ?
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44
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103. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.08 - Rise577 -
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47
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104. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 18.18 - NS3c - ?
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105. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.33 - R1016 -
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106. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675 -
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99
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107. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 18.47 - VO10207
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99
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108. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 18.52 - DA195 -
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84
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109. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 18.56 - GTE-A1 -
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48
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110. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 18.75 - R62 -
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43
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111. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111 -
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94
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112. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 18.89 - DA111 -
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93
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113. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 18.92 - I2471 -
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99
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114. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 18.96 - I3776 -
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99
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115. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.01 - I2470 -
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99
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116. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.12 - I12647 -
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90
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117. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199 -
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47
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118. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 -
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44
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119. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -
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40
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120. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.78 - VAD004 -
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99
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121. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647
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90
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122. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.86 - I7162 -
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123. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 - ?
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40
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124. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 - ?
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125. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 19.96 - I3874 -
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126. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 - ?
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37
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127. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 19.97 - AED513 - ?
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50
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128. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 -
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90
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129. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 20.28 - G274 -
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130. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 20.54 - I3757 -
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99
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131. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 20.68 - I3490 -
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132. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 -
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133. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 -
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134. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 -
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135. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 -
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136. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 -
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98
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137. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 -
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99
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138. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe (1305 AD) ..... 21.39 - G397 -
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139. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 -
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99
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140. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 -
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33
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141. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.51 - I5471 -
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39
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142. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 -
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143. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.6 - SZ23 -
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38
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144. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.61 - I1388 -
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99
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145. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 21.64 - MJ37 -
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146. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.66 - ORE-A1 -
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147. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton (700 AD) ..... 21.66 - HinxtonO2 -
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148. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 21.79 - I7424 -
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149. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.86 - 3DRIF-16 -
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150. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.96 - I3581 -
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Who doesn't like me not to look at me I love it, I'm sorry I can't help it.

Dear friend Carlos. I love to see your results. To me, they are a reference. Keep posting them always. I don't see many Iberians around here and you are my only reference. Cheers :)

Salento
01-12-19, 15:23
My Archaeogenetic Map of Ancient Rome:
... worth every penny :)

https://i.imgur.com/HS5tnut.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XBBd1dH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Hkl9o3g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4m6jFvc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IKswHs1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wF4ApMm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/roZjbZt.jpg

Salento
01-12-19, 15:36
maps: Top 20 and Deep Dive:
... cool :) ... top that 23andme, Ancestry, MyHeritage, ...

https://i.imgur.com/9nWLCP2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JaFETCW.jpg

Angela
01-12-19, 15:37
@Stuvane, Duarte,

Thanks for the info, guys. :)

I'll think about it. I'm not saying it isn't fun, but maybe sixty of them is enough.

I really do think they should clean up some of the anomalies we've seen as well.

@Salento,

I would say that looks like a Roman's results. :)

For when you jump back in time to visit your relatives: Rome On Five Denarii A Day-200 AD
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/971542.Ancient_Rome_on_Five_Denarii_a_Day

Salento
01-12-19, 16:28
@Stuvane, Duarte,

Thanks for the info, guys. :)

I'll think about it. I'm not saying it isn't fun, but maybe sixty of them is enough.

I really do think they should clean up some of the anomalies we've seen as well.

@Salento,

I would say that looks like a Roman's results. :)

For when you jump back in time to visit your relatives: Rome On Five Denarii A Day-200 AD
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/971542.Ancient_Rome_on_Five_Denarii_a_Day

Thanks Angela :)

Generally the majority of our matching samples are found in areas that we expected,

of course ... there’s always room for improvement.

Duarte
01-12-19, 16:53
@Stuvane, Duarte,

Thanks for the info, guys. :)

I'll think about it. I'm not saying it isn't fun, but maybe sixty of them is enough.

I really do think they should clean up some of the anomalies we've seen as well.

@Salento,

I would say that looks like a Roman's results.

For when you jump back in time to visit your relatives: Rome On Five Denarii A Day-200 AD
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/971542.Ancient_Rome_on_Five_Denarii_a_Day

Thanks Angela. You’re welcome. Cheers.:smile: