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the thread is the bellow
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38410-Suliotet/page17?p=577389#post577389
not only went off topic, but started to offend population group that were upsent in the area and the era, like Pontic and Anatolian Greeks
why this offend, I can not understand,
But in order to stop spam born by hate, to populations foreign to subject
I ask thread to be closed,
quoting
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38410-Suliotet/page17?p=577389#post577389
not only went off topic, but started to offend population group that were upsent in the area and the era, like Pontic and Anatolian Greeks
why this offend, I can not understand,
But in order to stop spam born by hate, to populations foreign to subject
I ask thread to be closed,
quoting
And here is the response of Roman (Byzantine) diplomats to the pope calling them Greeks, according to Luitprand of Cremona, an ambassador for the HRE:
Luitprand's entire account of his embassy is hilarious, and can be read here.
Probably the Romans mentioned here were Armenians, Syrians, etc and they refused categorically to be called Greeks. Meanwhile their descendants today have adopted this slur as a exonym for their new nation, the Neo-Greeks.
In Latin dictionaries, the word "Grek/Grec" metaphorically means "fripon, escroc" (cheater, scammer). The same definition was also given in the French Larousse. (Larousse / 1930 / Volume 3 / p. 867)
Well, the first thing that comes to mind is the recent Greek economic crisis.
Constantinople the last great siege 1453 by Roger Crowley, p.458-459
But the usage of these derogatory names is very common among neo-Greeks. If the so-called Anatolian Greeks, who arrived in Greece during the exchange of population between Greece and Turkey following the Treaty of Lausanne, call the native inhabitants of Greece, the Vlachs, the Slavs and the Albanians, False Greeks, you can read the whole story HERE. The native inhabitants of Greece, call these people arrived in Europe from Asia Minor with derogatory names such, turkosporos which mean turkish seed or baptised yogurt, etc.
About these people, the refugese from Asia Minor commonly called prosfiga, you can watch this documentary where it is testimoned not only the usage of these derogatory names but also the ill-treatment of the False Greeks against the turkosporos:
Interviews with Anatolian immigrants in Greece
Some interesting comments in the comment section from an descendant of those people:
greek pontic from sweden 2 years ago
an den eirthane i pondi stin ellada akoma ksipoliti tha pigenate
greek pontic from sweden 2 years ago
legate ouuu i tourko spori tha paroune tis doulies mas a sto dialou maimounia
greek pontic from sweden 2 years ago
i dopi einai skopidia shit tha sas gamiso olous zoaaaaaaaaaaaaa akrivos afta pou elege i giagia etsi me legane i gonis mou
A large part of these people(they were Christian Orthodox) spoke only Turkish and were famous for playing an asiatic instrument called Oud, commonly used predominantly in Western Asia and North Africa: in Egypt, Syria, Sudan, Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, Kurdistan, Somalia, Yemen, Arabia, Iran, Greece, Armenia, Turkey, Azerbaijan, and other ethnic music like Jewish music, North African Chaabi, Classical, and Spanish Andalusian.
One of the different Christian Turkish and other Asiatic tribes arrived in Greece were the so-called Μπαφραλήδες, Bafralides:
Ποιοι είναι οι Μπαφραλήδες;
Google translation:
Friedrich Schubert
But in the Greek language version of the article you can read this:
Φριτς Σούμπερτ
Google translation:
And today the descendants of these Turks go around in forums and boasts of being the original Macedonians.