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MiloshN
05-06-19, 00:05
Today I got Y-DNA results. And the result is here : E-V13>Z5017>Z16988>BY155589

What is interesting about this branch? :)

Have a nice day.

spruithean
05-06-19, 01:11
Today I got Y-DNA results. And the result is here : E-V13>Z5017>Z16988>BY155589

What is interesting about this branch? :)

Have a nice day.

I couldn't find anything on your terminal SNP, but I did find: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16988/, formed 2900 years ago and it seems dispersed throughout Europe judging by YFull's data.

Johane Derite
05-06-19, 02:25
Today I got Y-DNA results. And the result is here : E-V13>Z5017>Z16988>BY155589

What is interesting about this branch? :)

Have a nice day.

We have 11 Albanians under Z16988 from highland clans, central albania, and south albania. So its a local lineage assimilated into slavic/serbian ethnos at some point in time.

Dema
05-06-19, 03:48
We have 11 Albanians under Z16988 from highland clans, central albania, and south albania. So its a local lineage assimilated into slavic/serbian ethnos at some point in time.


I would agree with what Derite said, also i would like to add that this line Z16988 besides it has clusters of Serbs/Montenegrins and Albanians, also it has brother clades found among Albanians but also Serbs with probably similar history as you.

Congratulations on your results, where are you from in Serbia? Ah nevermind i see that you put Ras, probably meaning Rashka.

Dema
05-06-19, 06:19
Just realised your subclade is uploaded to Yfull as E-Y133830, you can see it here https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY34282/ , you are in branch together with this two Montenegrin (Danilovgrad) samples formed 2200 ybp, TMRCA 750 ybp, your brother clades are found in South Albania and France. Your next wave of relatives within Z16988 is pretty dispersed around Europe with few instances in Albanians and Serbs but with these with higher concentration and these that might interest you are Kelmendi tribals.

So again, regarding your more distant Y-DNA origin its safe to speak about Illyrian origin.

MiloshN
05-06-19, 13:33
I would agree with what Derite said, also i would like to add that this line Z16988 besides it has clusters of Serbs/Montenegrins and Albanians, also it has brother clades found among Albanians but also Serbs with probably similar history as you.

Congratulations on your results, where are you from in Serbia? Ah nevermind i see that you put Ras, probably meaning Rashka.

Ya, Novi Pazar - Rashka

MiloshN
05-06-19, 13:39
We have 11 Albanians under Z16988 from highland clans, central albania, and south albania. So its a local lineage assimilated into slavic/serbian ethnos at some point in time.

Are the Albanians (with EV13) assimilated into someone?

Dema
05-06-19, 13:41
Are the Albanians (with EV13) assimilated into someone?How do you mean?

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Kelmendasi
05-06-19, 14:40
In terms of Serbs this group is mainly found among the ones that hail from the Bjelopavlici clan of Montenegro. The ancestral group, BY34282, so far has been found among two Albanians from the southern regions (Skrapar and Konispol) and a French guy from northwestern France (Maine-et-Loire). As for BY155589 itself, it has been found among some Croatians, a Hungarian and an Austrian. They don't seem to be all that recently close to the Bjelopavlici though. It may be possible that the Albanian from Konispol is BY155589 based on some shared STRs with Bjelopavlici, though I'm not really sure about that. I think that this group will be found among more Albanians, would be interesting if it pops up around the area of Dukagjin considering how the Bjelopavlici claim origin from that area.

Aren't you the Serb from Kosovo that claims origin from Bjelopavlici?

LABERIA
05-06-19, 15:21
Congratulations!!!

MiloshN
05-06-19, 19:26
Aren't you the Serb from Kosovo that claims origin from Bjelopavlici?

yes, here is result for confirming...

kuzmosi
06-06-19, 23:27
Dear MiloshN!

I'm EV13>Z5017>Z17107>A19238, so we have a 2900 years old common father. (CTS9320) On the FamilyTreeDNA existing a CTS9320 project with 202 members. 38 from they are Z16988+.

2 Z16988+ but negative all known subclade (1 England and 1 Bulgaria)
4 Z16988+ and BY4197+ (1 France, 1 Switzerland, 1 Croatia, 1 Hungary or Romania)
4 Z16988+, BY4197+ and Z38664+ (2 Germany, 1 England, 1 Puerto Rico)
2 Z16988+, BY4197+, BY50887+, BY70508+( 2 England)
3 Z16988+ BY4197+ BY50887+ BY155589+ (3 Croatia)
4 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] (1 Latvia, 1 France, 1 Moldova, 1 ?)
1 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] Z27131+ (1 Germany)
2 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] Z27131+ BY62310+ (1 Albania, 1 ?)
5 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] Z27131+ BY4225+ (2 Norvegia, 1 England, 1 Germany, 1 Slovakia)
2 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] Z27131+ BY4225+ BY182530+(2 Great-Britain)
4 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] A11837+ (1 Albania, 1 Serbia, 1 Croatia, 1 ?)
5 Z16988+ [DYS531=11] Z21350+ (4 Great-Britain, 1 Germany or Poland)

From this results, your closest matches are the croatians. According to Maciamo, this bloodline is of Hallstatt Celtic origin. I think he's right.

xiaodragon
07-06-19, 00:38
From this results, your closest matches are the croatians. According to Maciamo, this bloodline is of Hallstatt Celtic origin. I think he's right.

reposting

Leka
20-06-19, 10:37
Congrats, so you belong to Bjelopavlici clan. Your Clan according to their oral traditions hails from Dukagjin, North Albania. Your closest Albanian match however is from Cameri, southern Albania, tmrca approximately 1000-700ybp based on STRs (but we will know more soon enough because they have also tested with Dante).

Next Albanian further upstream, belonging to a brother subclade, is from Skrapar. TMRCA 2300ybp as can be seen here: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY34282/

Dema
22-06-19, 13:15
Congrats, so you belong to Bjelopavlici clan.


Palbardhi*

How come we dont have any of these in project? Is there still Albanian speaking Palbardhi ? Or all whats left is Bjelopavlici ?

Leka
22-06-19, 19:44
Palbardhi*

How come we dont have any of these in project? Is there still Albanian speaking Palbardhi ? Or all whats left is Bjelopavlici ?
Any of which? Both samples that I mentioned are in the project.

Clan was formed in today’s Brda region (southern Montenegro) by a family/fis that migrated out of Dukagjin (North Albanian), so no, there isn't any Albanian family today that identifies with such a clan.

digital_noise
11-07-19, 19:40
Congrats, so you belong to Bjelopavlici clan. Your Clan according to their oral traditions hails from Dukagjin, North Albania. Your closest Albanian match however is from Cameri, southern Albania, tmrca approximately 1000-700ybp based on STRs (but we will know more soon enough because they have also tested with Dante).

Is there a place to browse results obtained from tests like Dante? Or do they just upload to YFull?

HarryRussell
28-09-19, 22:05
nice historical material on this forum page