Really Surprising Eurogenes K13 Admixture Results

[cyeeyc]

Hello!

I am currently trying to figure out my heritage, as I am an adoptee and don't really know anything concerning where my biological family comes from. Using the Eurogenes Admixture calculator on GEDMatch makes matters even more confusing for me, and I am currently not sure what to make of these results! It's displaying Asian populations and has me wondering if I am actually of part-Asian descent or if I should simply be using a different admixture calculator. After all, the distance is above 4. Please let me know what you think. :)



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

94.9%
Southwest_English
+
5.1%
Austroasiatic_Ho
@
4.04


2

94.1%
Southwest_English
+
5.9%
Bangladeshi
@
4.14


3

94.8%
Southwest_English
+
5.2%
Chenchu
@
4.16


4

94.9%
Southwest_English
+
5.1%
Dusadh
@
4.22


5

94.9%
Southwest_English
+
5.1%
Velamas
@
4.23


6

94.9%
Southwest_English
+
5.1%
Kurumba
@
4.23


7

95.2%
Southwest_English
+
4.8%
Sakilli
@
4.25


8

95.1%
Southwest_English
+
4.9%
Piramalai
@
4.26


9

94.8%
Southwest_English
+
5.2%
Uttar_Pradesh
@
4.28


10

94.9%
Southwest_English
+
5.1%
Kol
@
4.3


11

94.7%
Southwest_English
+
5.3%
Dharkar
@
4.32


12

95.2%
Southwest_English
+
4.8%
Chamar
@
4.32


13

76.4%
West_Scottish
+
23.6%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
4.33


14

94.9%
Southwest_English
+
5.1%
Kanjar
@
4.37


15

94.2%
Southwest_English
+
5.8%
Sindhi
@
4.37


16

95.1%
Southwest_English
+
4.9%
North_Kannadi
@
4.38


17

94.4%
Southwest_English
+
5.6%
Kshatriya
@
4.38


18

74.6%
West_Scottish
+
25.4%
Spanish_Galicia
@
4.39


19

94.5%
Southwest_English
+
5.5%
Gujarati
@
4.4


20

94.1%
Southwest_English
+
5.9%
Brahmin_UP
@
4.4




For comparison, here's the results of another calculator (Dodecad K12b):


1

86.9%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
13.1%
Syrians (Behar)
@
2.43


2

87.5%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
12.5%
Palestinian (HGDP)
@
2.44


3

87.2%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
12.8%
Syrians (Behar)
@
2.48


4

87.8%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
12.2%
Palestinian (HGDP)
@
2.51


5

87.3%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
12.7%
Jordanians (Behar)
@
2.55


6

86.7%
Orkney (1000Genomes)
+
13.3%
Syrians (Behar)
@
2.55


7

87.2%
Orkney (1000Genomes)
+
12.8%
Palestinian (HGDP)
@
2.56


8

87.5%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
12.5%
Jordanians (Behar)
@
2.6


9

87%
Orkney (1000Genomes)
+
13%
Jordanians (Behar)
@
2.65


10

88.6%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
11.4%
Bedouin (HGDP)
@
2.69


11

88.3%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
11.7%
Yemenese (Behar)
@
2.71


12

88.6%
Argyll (1000Genomes)
+
11.4%
Palestinian (HGDP)
@
2.73


13

88.6%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
11.4%
Samaritians (Behar)
@
2.73


14

88.4%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
11.6%
Bedouin (HGDP)
@
2.74


15

86.9%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
13.1%
Lebanese (Behar)
@
2.74


16

89.5%
British (Dodecad)
+
10.5%
Yemenese (Behar)
@
2.79


17

87.2%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
12.8%
Lebanese (Behar)
@
2.79


18

89.3%
Argyll (1000Genomes)
+
10.7%
Bedouin (HGDP)
@
2.8


19

88.9%
Irish (Dodecad)
+
11.1%
Samaritians (Behar)
@
2.81


20

88.2%
Orcadian (HGDP)
+
11.8%
Yemenese (Behar)
@
2.83



And here's MDLP K23b, since a lot of people have told me it's a good all-around admixture calculator:


1

86.2%
Orcadian ( )
+
13.8%
Kabardin ( )
@
2.2


2

85.6%
Orcadian ( )
+
14.4%
Kumyk ( )
@
2.23


3

84%
Orcadian ( )
+
16%
Uzbek_Tashkent ( )
@
2.24


4

86.3%
Orcadian ( )
+
13.7%
Chechen ( )
@
2.29


5

84.6%
Orcadian ( )
+
15.4%
Baku_WGA ( )
@
2.3


6

88.4%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
11.6%
Kabardin ( )
@
2.31


7

90.1%
Icelandic ( )
+
9.9%
Armenian ( )
@
2.32


8

83.5%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
16.5%
Turk_Aydin ( )
@
2.33


9

87.9%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
12.1%
Kumyk ( )
@
2.33


10

85.4%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
14.6%
Turk ( )
@
2.35


11

90.3%
Icelandic ( )
+
9.7%
Armenian_Yerevan ( )
@
2.36


12

84.4%
Orcadian ( )
+
15.6%
Uzbekistani_Jew ( )
@
2.36


13

86.7%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
13.3%
Georgian_Jew ( )
@
2.36


14

88.5%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
11.5%
Chechen ( )
@
2.37


15

91.5%
Icelandic ( )
+
8.5%
Kakheti ( )
@
2.37


16

87.8%
Norwegian_West ( )
+
12.2%
Kurd ( )
@
2.38


17

88%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
12%
Jew_Tat ( )
@
2.39


18

83.1%
Orcadian ( )
+
16.9%
Azeri ( )
@
2.39


19

89.2%
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
+
10.8%
Balkar ( )
@
2.39


20

82.8%
Orcadian ( )
+
17.2%
Turk ( )
@
2.39





I could be wrong, but I think that I can reasonably conclude that I am of Northern European and Asian descent, but I don't know which Asian, as all calculators return different Asian populations. Which one is most applicable to me? Thanks!

[td120]

IMHO you should have a closer look at your genetic matches first (not on Gedmatch). What company did you use for testing?
I would look for the ones without mixed heritage(usually most of non-American testees) and your common matches. Family names will be quite telling.
Look for "4th cousins-distant cousins" (10cM-->0.13-0.14% and around) first. Then move to closer or more distant ones(non-Americans) and check whether they fall in a specific geographical region.

here some charts with cM/relationship averages:
https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Relationship_Chart_FINAL_August_2017.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/thednageek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/DNA-Detectives-Autosomal-Statistics-Chart.png?resize=768%2C617&ssl=1

[Joey37]

It also could be Middle Eastern. My MDLP K23b for 88% NW European, 11.5% Sicilian, and 0.5% Native American is as follows:

Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Belgian ( )
2.87


2
English ( )
2.97


3
Frisian ( )
3.42


4
Irish ( )
3.52


5
Dutch ( )
4.1


6
North_European ( )
4.61


7
South_German ( )
5.53


8
Norwegian_East ( )
5.57


9
English_Kent_GBR ( )
5.64


10
North_German ( )
5.84


11
Dane ( )
6.24


12
Swede ( )
6.38


13
German-Volga ( )
6.45


14
English_Cornwall_GBR ( )
6.46


15
CEU ( )
6.93


16
Welsh ( )
7.47


17
British ( )
7.64


18
Norwegian_West ( )
8.27


19
Icelandic ( )
9.31


20
Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )
9.8



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

78.3%
Dutch ( )
+
21.7%
Portugese ( )
@
1.04


2

96.3%
Frisian ( )
+
3.7%
Mozabite ( )
@
1.23


3

93.1%
Frisian ( )
+
6.9%
Shaigi_Sudan ( )
@
1.29


4

95.2%
Frisian ( )
+
4.8%
Berber_WGA ( )
@
1.33


5

93.5%
Frisian ( )
+
6.5%
Algerian ( )
@
1.42


6

95.6%
Frisian ( )
+
4.4%
Saharawi ( )
@
1.45


7

84.3%
Dutch ( )
+
15.7%
Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( )
@
1.46


8

94.6%
Frisian ( )
+
5.4%
Morocco_South ( )
@
1.5


9

93.3%
Frisian ( )
+
6.7%
Tunisian ( )
@
1.54


10

84.6%
Dutch ( )
+
15.4%
Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( )
@
1.55


11

84.4%
Dutch ( )
+
15.6%
Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( )
@
1.56


12

94.4%
Frisian ( )
+
5.6%
Moroccan ( )
@
1.57


13

83.3%
Dutch ( )
+
16.7%
Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( )
@
1.6


14

82.5%
Dutch ( )
+
17.5%
Spaniard ( )
@
1.65


15

83.7%
Dutch ( )
+
16.3%
Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( )
@
1.65


16

85.7%
Dutch ( )
+
14.3%
Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( )
@
1.65


17

88.3%
North_European ( )
+
11.7%
Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( )
@
1.66


18

95.1%
North_European ( )
+
4.9%
Georgian_Laz ( )
@
1.68


19

84.1%
Dutch ( )
+
15.9%
Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( )
@
1.71


20

91.3%
English ( )
+
8.7%
Maltese ( )
@
1.71




(I chose the K23b because it gives me interesting matches like yours)

[New Englander]

No....it just means that you are slightly more southern than the average NWE.

Also, without the Geographic breakdown it is impossible to tell with just Population approximations.