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aci
04-12-19, 13:04
At the current level of knowledge, I am G2a - Z6764 negative for all known subgroups. So, now I'm unchanged for 3600 years!? :grin:

edith:
So far I know now other two Bulgarians, an Italian, a Scot and an Algerian, with Z6764 negative for all subgroups.

I just found out that an ancient sample, R1545 from the Roman era, north of Rome, was discovered in the locality Mazzano Romano, whose Y-DNA was determined to be Z6759, whose subgroup is Z6764, and it may actually be even Z6764.


R1545


1-400 CE

U1>L13>Z2022>Z6759>pre-Z6764 from

Imperial Rome
Mazzano Romano





Interestingly, the name of Italian with Z6764 is Mazzaro. There can not be many coincidences and similarities Mazzano-Mazzaro and the ancient haplogroup pre-Z6764 (probably even Z6764). We all six have a common ancestor with that ancient Roman citizen.

Anyone else in this situation? Cheers! :smile:

04-12-19, 20:49
Aci, help me out here. What thread of G2a are you on?

aci
04-12-19, 21:27
Aci, help me out here. What thread of G2a are you on?

G2a2b2a>L140>PF3346>PF3345>U1>L13>Z2022>Z6759>Z6764 and negative to all known subgroups.
or
G2a2b2a1a1a1a1a ( Z6764 )

04-12-19, 22:23
Thanks. I'm on the L497 thread, so our lines separated early,

G2a2b2a>L140>PF3346>PF3345>L497>CTS9737>Z1817>Z727>CTS2230>Z726>Z36217

Apparently the ISOGG nomenclature has changed again. I've aligned mine with what FTDNA has these days which doesn't align with Maciamo's chart of 2016 on the G2a page.

Regio X
04-12-19, 22:49
Thanks. I'm on the L497 thread, so our lines separated early,
G2a2b2a>L140>PF3346>PF3345>L497>CTS9737>Z1817>Z727>CTS2230>Z726>Z36217
Apparently the ISOGG nomenclature has changed again. I've aligned mine with what FTDNA has these days which doesn't align with Maciamo's chart of 2016 on the G2a page.G-U1 is just below G-FGC959, which is a sister clade of G-L497, so also under G-PF3345.

aci
04-12-19, 23:51
Thanks. I'm on the L497 thread, so our lines separated early,

G2a2b2a>L140>PF3346>PF3345>L497>CTS9737>Z1817>Z727>CTS2230>Z726>Z36217
Apparently the ISOGG nomenclature has changed again. I've aligned mine with what FTDNA has these days which doesn't align with Maciamo's chart of 2016 on the G2a pageIt seems that we have inherited our superclade PF3345? from a common ancestor from 10,000 years ago or so. However, I understand, it is several times more recent than inheritance from grandparents shared with other major haplogroups.
Science is fascinating, but I'm curious when geneticists come to a unified conclusion. :grin:

aci
06-12-19, 22:22
Thanks. I'm on the L497 thread, so our lines separated early,

G2a2b2a>L140>PF3346>PF3345>L497>CTS9737>Z1817>Z727>CTS2230>Z726>Z36217

Apparently the ISOGG nomenclature has changed again. I've aligned mine with what FTDNA has these days which doesn't align with Maciamo's chart of 2016 on the G2a page.
Have you done a Big Y test or similar?
I think it's possible that other more recent but undiscovered yet mutations are still under Z6764. :)