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Dibran
17-02-20, 08:40
Very interesting results Didn't know we had Vlach and Torbesh, and Pomak samples. Will add my mother and father sometime tomorrow for comparison to my own. See what components are more inflated than others in each case.


Modern:


Distance to: Dibran
3.98526034 Albanian
5.85422924 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
6.28579351 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
6.60322648 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.03342733 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
7.29570422 Greek_Thessaly
7.43398951 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.92290982 Greek_Thessaloniki
8.01198678 Kosovo_Albanian
8.50455172 Macedonian_Southwest
8.70899535 Greek_Peloponnese
8.96395560 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
9.01587766 GR_Peloponese
9.22083732 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.67818681 Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.83182757 GR_Macedonia
9.84918271 Romagna
9.99868991 Lazio
10.06792928 Vlach_North-Macedonia
10.21352535 Greek_Western-Macedonia
10.25471599 Macedonian_North
10.34964734 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.42514268 Marche
10.56011364 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
10.62055083 Macedonian_Central




Target: Dibran
Distance: 0.7720% / 0.77197698
31.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
20.4 Albanian
19.8 Sardinian
13.0 Macedonian_Greece
7.0 Pomak_Xanthi
5.2 Greek_Trabzon
3.0 Greek_Thessaloniki
0.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace




Target: Dibran
Distance: 1.5978% / 1.59776225 | ADC: 0.25x
75.0 Albanian
10.0 Sardinian
8.8 Macedonian_Southwest
3.8 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
1.2 Cyprian
1.2 Greek_Cypriot




K13 Ancient:


Distance to: Dibran
6.06847592 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.59573150 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
10.38236486 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
11.80490152 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
12.00131243 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
12.28974776 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
12.41847817 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
12.58201892 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
12.62345832 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.16741432 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
13.70586371 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.83035068 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.42058598 I7424_morisco
14.42664202 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
14.95858282 I7424_morisco2
15.82697697 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
15.83844058 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
15.89745263 I12647_iberia
16.05095324 SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard
16.06342118 I12647_iberia2
17.01763791 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
17.36985032 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
17.51972603 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
17.66943123 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
18.31939955 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)


Target: Dibran
Distance: 2.1408% / 2.14078652 | ADC: 0.25x
59.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
24.8 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
5.2 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
5.0 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
3.8 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
1.4 I7426_iberia


Also added myself to source code out of curiosity and MJ12 Thraco Kimmerian(with ADC 0.25X) seems to shift closer to me than other ancients. Call it calculator bias most likely. still interesting.


Target: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
Distance: 1.4256% / 1.42555570 | ADC: 0.25x
85.0 Dibran
3.0 CL110_collegno_italy_longobard
3.0 Sigauri_Sigauri._Melkhiy_(Chechen_Republic)
2.8 Crimean_Nogay
2.2 ANCIENT_SA6001Sharakhalsun6_Steppe_of_Maykop_cultu re_5444
2.0 SIJ003_Sinyukha_Late_Maykop_5174_U4c1
0.8 MARC1492_Ancient_Mi_kmaq_1492
0.8 SaryBel_Russia_RISE602_Sary0Bel._Russia
0.4 ANCIENT_VJ1001_Vonyuchka_1_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_62 42_year_old


Distance to: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
6.06847592 Dibran
10.59270504 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
11.36090225 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
12.25233855 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.07933102 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.64351128 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
13.77450544 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
13.97814008 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
14.28469461 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.67555450 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
15.13207190 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
15.54451350 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
15.99143833 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
16.21950677 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
16.44667140 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
17.00225279 I7424_morisco2
17.51473380 I7424_morisco
18.09144826 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
18.56905490 IA_Ardea_R850
19.12721360 I12647_iberia2
19.43850817 I12647_iberia
19.49771782 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
19.62588597 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
19.66646638 CL30_collegno_italy_longobard
19.79443356 CL23_collegno_italy_longobard

Dibran
17-02-20, 09:09
My Father:


K13 Modern:


Distance to: Dibran_Father
5.08872283 Albanian
5.94013468 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
6.31205989 Greek_Thessaly
6.61690260 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
6.79828655 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
6.90493302 Greek_Thessaloniki
7.01196121 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.48124321 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.50649885 GR_Peloponese
7.85510662 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
7.96658259 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.02168312 Macedonian_Southwest
8.48948762 Greek_Peloponnese
8.64179958 GR_Macedonia
8.89287098 Kosovo_Albanian
9.32624791 Turk_Thessaloniki
9.55220393 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.04790028 Greek_Central-Macedonia
10.35350665 Greek_Western-Macedonia
10.35705074 Turk_Kazanlik
10.37924853 Central_Greek
10.48154569 Macedonian_North
10.75241833 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.89028925 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
11.02540702 Macedonian_Greece




Target: Dibran_Father
Distance: 1.1215% / 1.12148454
27.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
23.8 Pomak_Xanthi
21.0 Sardinian
16.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace
7.2 Lebanese_Druze
4.2 Greek_Trabzon
0.2 Macedonian_Greece


Target: Dibran_Father
Distance: 2.2084% / 2.20843387 | ADC: 0.25x
52.2 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
29.2 Albanian
12.0 Sardinian
6.6 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: Dibran_Father
Distance: 3.2742% / 3.27416516 | ADC: 0.5x
56.0 Albanian
37.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
5.2 Sardinian
1.2 Algerian_Jewish


K13Ancient:


Target: Dibran_Father
Distance: 2.2841% / 2.28405218 | ADC: 0.25x
66.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.0 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
11.0 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
5.6 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
1.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
0.4 I7426_iberia




Distance to: Dibran_Father
6.84813843 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
11.32818609 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
11.81369967 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
12.13224217 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.05864465 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.19786725 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
13.36297497 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.39810434 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
14.47944750 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
14.95215369 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
15.32874424 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
15.65184654 I7424_morisco
15.74446887 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
16.29414005 I7424_morisco2
16.30319601 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
16.63006314 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
16.72736082 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
16.74627123 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
16.85198208 SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard
17.74226028 IA_Ardea_R850
17.87511119 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
18.11703618 I12647_iberia
18.14362422 I12647_iberia2
18.46852458 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
18.54656302 I3808_iberia


Running Thraco_Kimmerian against my father:


Target: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
Distance: 1.3892% / 1.38919657 | ADC: 0.25x
80.6 Dibran_Father
8.4 CL110_collegno_italy_longobard
3.0 SaryBel_Russia_RISE602_Sary0Bel._Russia
3.0 V2_Vratitsa_Bulgaria_1500_1100_BC_M_U2e1_2_3
1.6 RISE407_Armenian_LBA
1.2 ANCIENT_SA6001Sharakhalsun6_Steppe_of_Maykop_cultu re_5444
1.0 ANCIENT_VJ1001_Vonyuchka_1_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_62 42_year_old
0.8 RISE407_Norabak_Armenia_2827_years_CT_M5805_H8a
0.4 AY2001_Aygurskiy_2_Steppe_Maykop_5271_5_T2e

Dibran
17-02-20, 09:16
My Mother:


K13 Modern:


Distance to: Dibran_Mother
2.22298320 Kosovo_Albanian
3.03117139 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
3.28397625 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
3.47142622 Albanian
3.62939389 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
3.92322571 Vlach_North-Macedonia
4.43372304 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
4.68892312 Greek_Central-Macedonia
5.18954719 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.19636411 Greek_Western-Macedonia
5.35211173 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
5.35496032 Greek_Thessaly
5.47417574 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
5.87451966 North_Macedonian
6.06470939 Macedonian_Southeast
6.26196455 Macedonian_Central
6.30479976 Greek_Peloponnese
6.46352071 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
6.48000772 Macedonian_Southwest
6.59423233 Macedonian_North
6.62502350 Bulgarian_Thrace
6.63723587 Turk_Alexandroupoli
6.64586338 GR_Macedonia
6.89069663 Greek_Western-Thrace
6.96596727 Turk_Kavala




Target: Dibran_Mother
Distance: 1.0075% / 1.00751159 | ADC: 0.5x
42.8 Kosovo_Albanian
22.6 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
19.2 Albanian
8.2 Vlach_North-Macedonia
4.6 Serb_North-Macedonia
2.6 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East


Target: Dibran_Mother
Distance: 0.7507% / 0.75073438 | ADC: 0.25x
29.4 Kosovo_Albanian
26.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
24.6 Albanian
10.6 Vlach_North-Macedonia
8.0 Serb_North-Macedonia
0.6 Greek_Peloponnese


K13Ancient:


Distance to: Dibran_Mother
5.97952339 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.80801340 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
8.93100778 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.19652108 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.28174553 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.89020222 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
10.89342921 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
12.35422600 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
13.22728997 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.46365478 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
13.92451435 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
14.14964664 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.26841617 I7424_morisco2
14.30894825 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
14.40588769 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.66658106 I7424_morisco
15.48080424 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
15.93637035 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
16.50686221 CL23_collegno_italy_longobard
16.56552444 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
16.97227150 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
16.99817637 I12647_iberia2
17.27123331 SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
17.39381212 I12647_iberia
17.48317191 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9




Target: Dibran_Mother
Distance: 1.8057% / 1.80573540 | ADC: 0.25x
60.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
17.8 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
13.2 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
4.2 RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a
2.6 I7426_iberia
1.0 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
0.6 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard


Running Thraco_Kimmerian against source code with my moms data:


Target: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
Distance: 2.2071% / 2.20710510 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Dibran_Mother
13.0 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
3.6 ANCIENT_SA6001Sharakhalsun6_Steppe_of_Maykop_cultu re_5444
3.4 sar00665_sar00665
1.0 RISE497_Arban_1_Russia_2000_years_F_P142_A2f2
0.4 HDGP01037_Pima_Male_HDGP01037

bigsnake49
17-02-20, 16:58
11819
Mine, K13 Modern
11818

Interesting that I have better matches with Greek Macedonian samples rather than Thracian samples in K13 Modern. Are the samples actually averages of individual samples or individual samples. If averages how big are the sample sizes and did they take care so the people who are sampled from that area are local for at least couple of generations?

Mine, K13 Ancient.

torzio
17-02-20, 18:21
Distance to:
TorzioK13


5.14279107
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


7.21271793
CL36_collegno_italy_longobard


7.47605511
SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


7.54191620
SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard


7.62072831
RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9


7.71743481
CL49_collegno_italy_longobard


7.83749960
DA195_Hungary_Scythian


8.02793871
SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


8.32675207
DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary


8.40845408
SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


8.55622580
SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard


8.69714321
SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard


8.70789871
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard


9.38891900
SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard


9.47101367
SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


9.66252038
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


9.66802979
SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century


10.28309292
I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2


10.32287751
scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce


10.45008134
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard


10.54462896
CL57_collegno_italy_longobard


10.83154190
ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC


11.10855526
SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard


11.34702604
CL47_collegno_italy_longobard


11.45461916
I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1




modern



Distance to:
TorzioK13


3.67639769
Veneto


4.02309582
Friuli-VG


5.05029702
Trentino


5.33033770
Piedmont


6.76126467
Emilia


6.77602391
Liguria


7.36383731
Lombardy


7.52062497
Tuscany


7.80923172
Swiss-Italian


8.93821571
Swiss_Italian


9.53515076
Bulgarian_Central


9.56837401
North_Macedonian


9.88147256
Vlach_North-Macedonia


10.12177460
Kosovo_Albanian


10.14693550
Romagna


10.26777483
Bulgarian_Serres


10.32991287
Bulgarian_Plovdiv


10.35403303
Bulgarian_Southwest


10.36188207
Greek_Central-Macedonia


10.39392130
Macedonian_East


10.59492803
Macedonian_Northwest


10.77944340
Tuscan


10.89274529
Bosniak_Sandzak


10.91829199
AostaValley


11.28342357
Montenegrin




and modern original data



Distance to:
TorzioK13


4.76465816

North_Italian


10.77944340
Tuscan


11.39735934
Romanian


12.72077042
Bulgarian


12.85499903
Portuguese


12.97082110
Serbian


13.63928884
Spanish_Extremadura


13.69081079
Spanish_Galicia


14.22808490
Greek_Thessaly


14.55673384
Spanish_Cataluna


15.02219025
Spanish_Murcia


15.13221729
Spanish_Valencia


15.27622008
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon


15.31498612
Spanish_Andalucia


15.34720822
French


16.59366445
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


17.04583820
Italian_Abruzzo


17.60021023
Spanish_Cantabria


17.61104767
West_Sicilian


18.68371483
Southwest_French


18.82113174
West_German


19.30889432
Austrian


19.49226513
Hungarian


19.95598156
Spanish_Aragon


20.03665890
South_Dutch

Palermo Trapani
17-02-20, 19:17
Top 25 distances K13 Ancient. SZ40 and R437 are both < 5 on Dodecad so getting consistent results on those 2.



Distance to:
PalermoTrapani


2.83464283
SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard


5.74799965
IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437


9.74105230
CL121_collegno_italy_longobard


10.59341777
I8215_3iberia


10.62085213
I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco


10.72019589
SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard


10.85205971
I8215_2iberia


11.47086745
CL38_collegno_italy_longobard


11.49500326
IA_Ardea_R850


11.87954124
CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem


11.88104373
CL30_collegno_italy_longobard


11.89761741
I3808_iberia


12.62005547
CL25_collegno_italy_longobard


12.98982679
SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century


13.13010663
I8215_iberia


13.30179687
SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard


13.64714622
I7424_morisco


13.71895404
I7424_morisco2


13.79710477
I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2


14.04115024
SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard


14.04937365
SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard


14.12281133
SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


14.59112401
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian


15.78834380
SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


15.95079622
I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)



K13 Updated top 25 distances:

Distance to: PalermoTrapani
3.63130830 West_Sicilian
4.27984813 Molise
4.53094913 Apulia
4.54467821 Abruzzo
5.01440924 Campania
5.30913364 Sicily
5.36017724 Basilicata
6.03359760 Malta
6.04806581 East_Sicilian
6.68697989 Calabria
7.02694101 Central_Greek
8.55354313 Marche
8.61175360 Lazio
8.68674277 Greek_Andros_Island
9.16282162 Greek_Western-Thrace
9.23201495 Ashkenazi
9.66857280 Umbria
9.72998972 Moroccan_Jew
10.07475062 Greek_Symi_Island
10.19252177 Italian_Jewish
10.65898213 Romagna
10.74883249 Sephardic_Jewish
10.85722801 Tuscan
10.87747213 Algerian_Jewish
11.43605920 GR_Peloponese

Joey37
17-02-20, 21:29
11820This is mine, starting with the modern and going to the distance for the Ancient (the other one in Ancient was split up into about 50 groups with an average of 2 percent for each...11821

11822

Duarte
17-02-20, 22:58
Mine:

Modern updated:
https://i.imgur.com/13qGMTE.png

Ancient:
https://i.imgur.com/fROyO88.png

Carlos
18-02-20, 15:59
Distance to:
Carlosk13


5.99357156
Spanish_Cantabria


6.65038345
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


7.07265862
Southwest_French


7.98839158
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon


8.09111241
Spanish_Aragon


8.12444460
Spanish_Galicia


8.17633781
Spanish_Andalucia


8.41938240
Spanish_Cataluna


8.42352064
Spanish_Extremadura


9.21772749
Spanish_Murcia


9.24409541
Portuguese


9.59140761
Spanish_Valencia


13.08031727
French


16.10858777
French_Basque


16.42111141
North_Italian


18.71481232
South_Dutch


19.45701159
West_German


22.24301688
Southwest_English


22.79234740
Southeast_English


23.37091141
Tuscan


24.91886233
Orcadian


25.11564652
Austrian


25.44782898
Irish


25.49558393
West_Scottish


26.67815211
North_Dutch




Experimenting I have put a 2'34% North African at 0% and a 0´54% sub-Saharan of my K13 coordinates at 0% to see if by elimination my hidden E-V22 appears and this is the result a strip appears that was not before and now it is filled with Italian regions territories of Switzerland but I remember correctly SZ18 Medieval is from Tyrol and is from haplogroup E and also scy197b have Deep Dive in Egypt.

So if that 2.34% of North Africa gives me Morocco and if I remove it I get Switzerland and its surroundings, it gives me to think.



Distance to:
Carlosk13


5.89149387
Spanish_Cantabria


6.65949698
Southwest_French


6.73937683
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


7.86733119
Spanish_Aragon


8.20908034
Spanish_Galicia


8.22747227
Spanish_Andalucia


8.24963029
Spanish_Cataluna


8.26416360
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon


8.50073526
Spanish_Extremadura


9.31562666
Spanish_Murcia


9.40110100
Spanish_Valencia


9.42649988
Portuguese


10.98730176
AostaValley


12.87574076
French


13.51896446
Swiss-Italian


14.96548696
Piedmont


15.29975817
Swiss_Italian


15.36679212
Swiss_French


15.96221163
French_Basque


15.98686961
Trentino


16.38120875
Veneto


16.43131157
Lombardy


17.29571045
Swiss_German


18.25253955
Friuli-VG


18.30220752
Liguria


18.57608678
South_Dutch






Target: Carlosk13
Distance: 1.0709% / 1.07091162


66.6
French_Basque






8.8
Georgian






6.4
Southwest_French






5.8
Lithuanian






3.2
Somali






2.4
Saudi






2.0
Moroccan






1.6
Sardinian






1.4
Selkup






1.2
Erzya






0.6
Russian_Smolensk





Here I have done exactly the same and Morocco disappears and Ossetian gets disappears Georgians and Cossacks Kuban get.



Target: Carlosk13
Distance: 1.1884% / 1.18842766


69.6
French_Basque






10.0
Cossacks_Kuban






9.0
North_Ossetian






6.4
Saudi






4.0
Sardinian






1.0
Selkup




Curious isn't it?

2.34% of North Africa and 0.54% sub-Saharan at 0%


Distance to:
Carlosk13


6.80352850
I6581_Silesia_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b


8.09940739
I8203_iberia


8.11974753
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


8.54883033
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard


9.67765984
I8474_iberia


9.67913219
I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m


9.72864842
I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U


9.75135375
I12649_low_quality


10.01592232
CrusaderSI40KingdomofJerusalem


10.48565210
I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker


10.79191827
I3758_Celtiberian_U


10.90818958
RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary_CT_M5751_H2a1


11.84118237
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


13.02305648
RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9


13.46931327
I12516_iberia


13.75547527
CL57_collegno_italy_longobard


13.75795043
IA_Ardea_R851


13.88322729
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


14.12005312
DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary


14.13517598
RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV


14.32590311
CL47_collegno_italy_longobard


14.36650967
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard


14.81985830
BeakerNorthItaly_I2478


14.81985830
I2478_Beaker_North_Italy_I2478


14.93184182
CL102_collegno_italy_longobard



Con el 2,34% de norte África y el 0,54% sub-saharan


Distance to:
Carlosk13


7.21492897
I6581_Silesia_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b


8.35882767
I8203_iberia


8.46297229
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


8.58769468
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard


9.66127838
I8474_iberia


9.90558428
I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U


9.95797168
I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m


9.96173178
I12649_low_quality


10.29980097
CrusaderSI40KingdomofJerusalem


10.74408209
I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker


10.91349165
I3758_Celtiberian_U


11.16941359
RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary_CT_M5751_H2a1


11.99042952
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


12.97778101
I12516_iberia


13.24262814
RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9


13.89504588
CL57_collegno_italy_longobard


13.96597293
IA_Ardea_R851


14.08940027
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


14.30416722
RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV


14.32281746
DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary


14.47721658
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard


14.50645029
CL47_collegno_italy_longobard


14.89184676
I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2


15.01317421
BeakerNorthItaly_I2478


15.01317421
I2478_Beaker_North_Italy_I2478



I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2

More or less the same and I get this difference match as a gift



I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2


----------------------------------------Me is E1b1b1a1c*V22
----------------------------------------s it that easy and simple?

What about the old E that has been found in Europe, where is it and I speak of the from early age onwards era onwards?

Stuvanè
18-02-20, 19:18
Mine, (ancient, modern and combo)

https://scontent.fqls2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/86831343_130732728233174_3252959181463879680_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=DsEIbD0jUH0AX8APbSd&_nc_ht=scontent.fqls2-1.fna&oh=cc79eadb4d711e042b2e8a83f806ff81&oe=5EC5952A

https://scontent.fqls2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/87176473_186644389313030_874561062085591040_n.jpg? _nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=UeWtHDQKwpcAX_l_JMK&_nc_ht=scontent.fqls2-1.fna&oh=034cc8a912da2a6409a5d80419722484&oe=5EC380FE

https://scontent.fqls2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/86459338_193757878379810_401988494861271040_n.jpg? _nc_cat=110&_nc_ohc=5Xlt8yZeqqAAX_Whmow&_nc_ht=scontent.fqls2-1.fna&oh=0d11ad7a28f7ce22a316766cc8a54429&oe=5EBD20C7

Palermo Trapani
18-02-20, 22:10
Stuvane' (mei scuse, for not getting the accent on the e correct in my typing). Are you from Tuscany? Your location indicates Milan. Just curios how accurate Eurogenes K13 updated is for other people. I personally think it is much better than the original K13 calculator.

HYGILI4K
19-02-20, 00:17
Ancient



Distance to:
hygili4k


4.84292267
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


6.41681385
I12516_iberia


6.78604450
I12649_low_quality


7.38675165
I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1


7.63217531
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard


7.70249959
RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9


7.79768555
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


8.04349427
I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2


8.08176961
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard


8.48836851
CrusaderSI40KingdomofJerusalem


9.00169984
SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard


9.25687312
ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC


9.34416930
I12647_iberia


9.40691235
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


9.61761405
I12644_Muslim_Iberian_1100_1300_CE2


9.75610578
I12647_iberia2


9.76303232
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


9.81327163
CL36_collegno_italy_longobard


10.24874626
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


10.32823799
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


10.49142507
CrusaderSI41KingdomofJerusalem


11.04567336
IA_Ardea_R851


11.12090374
SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard


11.61833895
I3807_morisco


11.72026877
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1



Updated



Distance to:
hygili4k


4.98511785
Spanish_Extremadura


5.25495956
Spanish_Andalucia


6.20883242
Spanish_Murcia


6.38604729
Portuguese


7.07472968
Spanish_Valencia


7.43146688
Lombardy


7.50881482
Piedmont


7.53541638
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


7.93166439
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon


7.95954144
Swiss-Italian


8.06631886
Spanish_Galicia


8.08826928
Spanish_Cataluna


8.80408428
Liguria


9.12693267
Swiss_Italian


9.17797908
Veneto


9.79350295
Emilia


10.31963178
Spanish_Cantabria


10.36342125
AostaValley


10.43274652
Spanish_Aragon


10.76139861
Trentino


11.17400555
Tuscany


11.73932281
Friuli-VG


12.60752553
FrenchCorsica


12.82830464
Southwest_French


13.19324827
Tuscan



Original



Distance to:
hygili4k


4.98511785
Spanish_Extremadura


5.25495956
Spanish_Andalucia


6.20883242
Spanish_Murcia


6.38604729
Portuguese


7.07472968
Spanish_Valencia


7.11752766
North_Italian


7.53541638
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


7.93166439
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon


8.06631886
Spanish_Galicia


8.08826928
Spanish_Cataluna


10.31963178
Spanish_Cantabria


10.43274652
Spanish_Aragon


12.82830464
Southwest_French


13.19324827
Tuscan


14.67336362
French


20.70716301
West_Sicilian


21.14822924
Italian_Abruzzo


21.38602815
West_German


21.65291435
South_Dutch


22.83911995
Greek_Thessaly


23.17133574
Romanian


23.90264630
French_Basque


24.17876341
Serbian


24.41183729
Bulgarian


25.91210721
Central_Greek

Stuvanè
19-02-20, 07:38
Stuvane' (mei scuse, for not getting the accent on the e correct in my typing). Are you from Tuscany? Your location indicates Milan. Just curios how accurate Eurogenes K13 updated is for other people. I personally think it is much better than the original K13 calculator.

@Palermo Trapani

I'm living in Milan, but I'm half from Romagna (especially Rimini's hinterland, i.e. Coriano, near San Marino and Verucchio) and the other half from the province of Ferrara (rural suburbs of Copparo)

macman
19-02-20, 11:16
Distance to: macman
2.12160786 Macedonian
2.65802558 Bulgarian
3.10367524 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
3.24000000 Macedonian_Northwest
3.32747652 Romanian_Muntenia
3.56943973 Romanian_Oltenia
3.67148471 Bulgarian_Central
3.98244900 Macedonian_East
4.24651622 Pomak_Plovdiv
4.27186508 North_Macedonian
4.38821148 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.40844644 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.52821157 Pomak_Nevrokopi
4.61931863 Montenegrin
4.69529552 Bulgarian_Sofia
4.74902095 Bosniak_Sandzak
4.81134077 Romanian_Transylvania
4.87366392 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.01090810 Macedonian_North
5.07716456 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.60425731 Bulgarian_Southwest
5.80879506 Bulgarian_Serres
5.85618476 Macedonian_Central
5.92877728 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
6.14596616 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
6.26779866 Turk_N-Macedonia
6.49311944 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.57810003 Turk_Razgrad
6.81967741 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
6.91874266 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.28129109 Vlach_North-Macedonia
7.57458910 Macedonian_Southwest
7.75272477 Serbian_new
7.83132811 Pomak_Drama
7.85187876 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes



Target: Macman
Distance: 0.1726% / 0.17255929


23.0
Greek_Northern-Thrace





19.2
Greek_Western-Macedonia





10.8
Macedonian_East





10.0
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central





8.8
Pomak_Xanthi





5.8
Greek_Thessaloniki





3.8
Southwest_Finnish





3.6
Bosniak_Tuzla





2.2
Trentino





2.2
Latvian





2.0
Belorussian





2.0
Estonian





1.4
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa





0.8
Austrian





0.8
Norwegian





0.8
Romanian_South_Central_Moldova





0.6
Macedonian_North





0.4
German_east





0.4
Papuan





0.4
Macedonian_Greece





0.2
Greek_Chios





0.2
Swiss_German





0.2
Macedonian_Southwest





0.2
Macedonian_Central





0.2
Pomak_Plovdiv







Target: Macman
Distance: 1.8241% / 1.82405850 | ADC: 0.25x


40.4
DA195_Hungary_Scythian





34.6
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian





13.8
SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard





8.6
Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a





1.6
K2_52_vengr_lider





0.8
I7426_iberia





0.2
SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard



When i remove Scythian_DA195,even better distance.



Target: Macman
Distance: 1.5659% / 1.56585594 | ADC: 0.25x



46.2
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian





13.4
SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard





12.6
SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard





11.0
DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc





7.2
Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a





7.0
RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2





2.6
CL49_collegno_italy_longobard

Palermo Trapani
19-02-20, 16:25
Stuvane: Grazie Mille. It seems that The K13 updated is doing a good job for you as well. I have seen some others here either from Italy or Americans/Australians of Italian ancestry from various Regions all getting more accurate coordinates for both Dodecad 12B updated and Euro K13 updated, vs the earlier versions of these calculators that as Angela noted had some limitations on distinguishing among Italians, Greeks/Balkans and also Ashkenazi, etc. Haven't been to the Emilia-Romagna region but given the historic city of Ravenna is there, is on my bucket list to visit. It and Florence will be my first stops once I venture North of Rome.

Ar Moal
19-02-20, 18:46
k13 ancient

Distance to:YanArmoal

3.16794886 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
7.08913253 SZ12_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.25202730 CL92_collegno_italy_longobard
7.31465652 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.44259363 I0112_BellBeaker
7.66480920 RISE431_Wielkopolska_Proto_Unetice_R1a_R1a
7.69542721 DA194_Hungary_Scythian
7.79553077 SZ7_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.79782662 SZ24_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.98342658 SZ22_szolad_hungary_longobard
8.02975716 I0116_Unetice
8.09891351 Albertsdedt_Germany_LN_M107790
8.10705249 Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2a1
8.26947399 RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years_M_R_M405_K1 b1a
8.32346683 SZ16_szolad_hungary_longobard
8.60431287 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years_M_CT_CTS3662_ N
8.61991299 el_Miron8.84472724SZ41_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.04336774 sz22_Longobard9.17986383Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylan y_Czechia
9.23172790 I0099_HalberstadtLNBA9.34123653grt036_Sigtuna_10_1 2_century
9.42941674 CL84_collegno_italy_longobard
9.46512546 SZ38_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.86223098 SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard

Cible: YanArmoal
Distance: 1.0321% / 1.03213310 | ADC: 0,25x

70.6 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
9.4 RISE431_Wielkopolska_Proto_Unetice_R1a_R1a
5.0 SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard
4.0 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
3.8 CL92_collegno_italy_longobard
2.6 84005_Sigtuna_10_12_century
1.4 RISE145_Wielkopolska_Unetice
1.4 RISE523_Kapova_cave_Russia_3192_years_G2a1
1.0 JK1968_Levaluhta
0.8 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard



k13 modifi


5.59124315
danois


6.14730022
sudois


6.57479277
North_German


6.92030346
German_West


7.59540651
East_German


8.54496928
autrichien


8.94501537
norvgien


9.06233965
German_east


9.30972610
Nerlandais du Nord


9.76987717
Anglais


10.01724513
South_Dutch


10.17117987
West_German


10.38246599
Nord-sudois


10.41798925
Orcadien


10.49581345
Southeast_English


11.80044914
irlandais


12.43952973
tchque


12.44664613
Suisse allemand


12.61152647
Southwest_English


12.66766750
West_Scottish


12.92891720
cossais


13.01908599
gallois


13.06773890
Kaykavian_Croatian


13.22237119
hongrois


15.01325454
slovaque






Cible: yanarmoal
Distance: 1,6752% / 1,67522737 | ADC: 0,25x




36.4
danois





23.8
German_east





23.0
sudois





12.4
East_German





2.8
Swiss_Italian





1.6
Southwest_French

Carlos
20-02-20, 01:19
Distance to:
Carlosk13


5.99357156
Spanish_Cantabria


6.65038345
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


7.07265862
Southwest_French


7.98839158
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon


8.09111241
Spanish_Aragon


8.12444460
Spanish_Galicia


8.17633781
Spanish_Andalucia


8.41938240
Spanish_Cataluna


8.42352064
Spanish_Extremadura


9.21772749
Spanish_Murcia


9.24409541
Portuguese


9.59140761
Spanish_Valencia


13.08031727
French


16.10858777
French_Basque


16.42111141
North_Italian


18.71481232
South_Dutch


19.45701159
West_German


22.24301688
Southwest_English


22.79234740
Southeast_English


23.37091141
Tuscan


24.91886233
Orcadian


25.11564652
Austrian


25.44782898
Irish


25.49558393
West_Scottish


26.67815211
North_Dutch


The data presented in this report are only statistical approximations. However, thanks to our test,
featuring 700,000 genetic markers, we can achieve a great level of detail.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oFPwRJC-eAU/Xk2zSEdsyRI/AAAAAAAAC6k/f0O4Z2R-k7gCbzneO1K0PbdDXto4xlGCgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/RegionesenEurope.jpeg

Target: Carlosk13
Distance: 1.0709% / 1.0709116266.6French_Basque
8.8Georgian
6.4Southwest_French
5.8Lithuanian
3.2Somali
2.4Saudi
2.0Moroccan
1.6Sardinian
1.4Selkup
1.2Erzya
0.6Russian_Smolensk

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s_OdBRHqPqM/Xk2zO-9O55I/AAAAAAAAC6c/60TpPvPe1QclUJUXMm0_Km8ExucwshIJwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/RegionalData.jpeg

I was surprised by this company because of the amount of regional data it handles.


The total data is practically the same as FTDNA has given me with the exception of 4.10% for Russia.


Is that 4% approx. from North Africa who never know where to place it, LivingDNA in Arabia, FTDNA in the Middle East now these in Morocco, Algeria so I have to find out how much percent a modern Moroccan gets with Iberia or Spain in case it was a boumerang effect or as a mirror since it is something too small to be modern or relatively modern or it is really old and they carry it and bring it from one place to another, anyway I will find out what someone modern in those regions gets with Iberia.

Cantabria does not appear that appears to me in everything and everything. I don't know if Cantabria is a good wild card for the rest of Spanish regions or something happens.

With Navarra, Ireland, Scotland, England I have the maps with modern matches and I have enough results, also with Aragon on the same line with surnames of Aragonese origin that I do have in my tree, along with the maps of old MTA samples of those areas as with Girona.

Connacht well, all I have is that a brother of my mother has the same look as Sean Connery, it's more than anything.


Somalia, Ethiopia e.t.c. it's logical since I'm E-V22


Sardinia imagine that it is basal and is something like generic.


Poitou Charente I will have to investigate.


Less one can be noise from the rest, but hey, there they are.

So at least with most of these results so accurate and based on such a large number of samples is the first time I get set-ups in my memory about them, really if they continue in this line this company seems to give somewhat hopeful results after So crazy

Carlos
26-02-21, 16:54
Target: Father
Distance: 0.5615% / 0.56148105 | R7P



40.7
I1388_France_Bell_Beaker_lowSteppe_4246_ybp






20.0
I3582_Andalusia_Visigoth_






17.0
I0588_Tanzania_Zanzibar_First_Millenium_1150_ybp






12.1
SZ41_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp






6.5
urm035_Sigtuna_M_BCDE_h2a1c_






2.8
ela001_South_Africa_400BP.SG_493_ybp






0.9
RISE563_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_Bell_Beaker_M _R_P310_K_









Target: Carlos
Distance: 0.2358% / 0.23578946 | R7P




32.5
MBA_Portugal_MG104_Portugal_1740-1430_BC





23.9
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iam_5_N_Africa_5199_5176y_old_

AlfonsoVIII
03-08-21, 13:24
My Ancient:
https://i.ibb.co/fxjxCtN/IMG-20210803-131755.jpg
My modern:
https://i.ibb.co/48sTZKz/IMG-20210803-131841.jpg