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torzio
25-05-20, 01:25
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1

The development of the first urban centers is one of the most fundamental phenomena in the history of temperate Europe. New research demonstrates that the earliest cities developed north of the Alps between the sixth and fifth centuries BC as a consequence of processes of demographic growth, hierarchization, and centralization that have their roots in the immediately preceding period.


and the article

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10963-017-9108-5#ref-CR25


papers few years old

Angela
25-05-20, 01:58
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1

The development of the first urban centers is one of the most fundamental phenomena in the history of temperate Europe. New research demonstrates that the earliest cities developed north of the Alps between the sixth and fifth centuries BC as a consequence of processes of demographic growth, hierarchization, and centralization that have their roots in the immediately preceding period.


and the article

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10963-017-9108-5#ref-CR25


papers few years old

Try reading what you post and comprehending it. That way I don't have to keep wasting time over and over again correcting the mistakes.

They're talking about the first urban centers NORTH OF THE ALPS, not that the LARGEST URBAN CENTERS WERE NORTH OF THE ALPS.

Were you born in Australia? Is English your second language or something? Then there might be an excuse.

The first urban centers of EUROPE were found in the Neolithic "OLD EUROPE" of the Balkans millenia before. You know, the urban centers which the ancestors of Hallstatt Culture destroyed.

Angela
25-05-20, 04:24
Two things are not allowed here:

T-rolling other groups ethnic or otherwise because of an agenda

Posting false information either deliberately, or because of gross negligence and incompetence with, in the latter case, a refusal to admit to said false interpretation when presented with the evidence.

Torzio does 1 and 2b repeatedly, and I've had enough.

He is banned for a while to learn how to behave.

Had he cared enough to actually READ the paper instead of just the abstract (the first couple of paragraphs would have been enough), he would have seen this:

"The first millennium BC was a time of urbanization across Eurasia (Fernández-Götz and Krausse 2016 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1#ref-CR72)). Although urban centers had a long trajectory in regions such as Mesopotamia (Liverani 2013 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1#ref-CR130); Yoffee 2015 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1#ref-CR220)), the earliest cities of central-western Europe developed during the Iron Age (c. 800–20 BC). These were not the first cities on European soil—the fourth millennium BC Trypillia megasites in Ukraine can probably claim this title (Chapman and Gaydarska 2016 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1#ref-CR35); Müller et al. 2016 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10814-017-9107-1#ref-CR151))—but the earliest in the regions north of the Alps. "

When someone shows you that you are indisputably WRONG, either admit you were wrong or be QUIET.