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kingjohn
06-06-20, 17:28
some group administrator posted this
should be very soon ( some waves ):thinking:

FamilyTreeDNA Update












































Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are excited to announce the following updates that we will begin releasing today, June 5th, and in the coming weeks.





























myOrigins 3.0

We have nearly tripled the number of populations in Family Finder's myOrigins report! We will release a white paper in the coming months that will include the science behind the new myOrigins, but here is a little information about the new populations.

New Populations

The new myOrigins includes 90 reference populations sourced from 8,053 individual samples.
These populations break down as follows:

33 from Asia and Oceania
27 from Europe and the Middle East
21 from Africa and the Americas



When will users get results?

Approximately 287,000 testers will display the update upon release next week.
The remainder of the database will be updated in waves.
Priority will be given to those who have most recently signed in to their kits.
Those who have not signed in for a year or more will be last to get the updated version of myOrigins.
For those kits who do not receive the update next week, an email will be sent to the primary email address on the kit when the new results are ready to view.
New testers or transfers who get results after the release will receive only the myOrigins 3.0 results, not the 2.0.
A CSV file summary of myOrigins 2.0 results will be available on the dashboard for a limited time.































Big Y STR Results

Thanks to the improvement in our Big Y STR technology and quality thresholds, reanalyzing current Big Y data is allowing us to provide additional STR values at no charge. SNP results will not be affected by this update.

This reanalysis will go as follows:

Big Y-700 customers should have received additional STR calls in Panels 6 and 7 over the last few weeks.
Big Y-500 customers will receive additional STR calls in Panels 6 and 7 in the next few days.
Once all customers have been updated, STR calls in Panels 6 and 7 for all customers will be refined based on improvements to our quality control thresholds.

It’s important to note:

For Big Y-700 testers, up until now, if there was a call at a location in the 500 but not in the 700, we preserved the 500 call. With the update to the STR calling process, Big Y-700 testers will only have those STRs called in the 700, which may mean some no-calls at positions that previously had values.
While Big Y-500 customers will receive some additional STR values, the only way to guarantee that a tester receives the full 700 STRs is to upgrade to Big Y-700.































If you have any questions about these updates, please contact the FamilyTreeDNA Groups Team at [email protected]

We hope you are all safe and healthy. Thank you for all of the work you do with your projects!

Sincerely,
FamilyTreeDNA

bigsnake49
06-06-20, 22:39
That will be wonderful because for me they have South East Europe that includes Italy, Greece and the Balkans.

Kaser
09-06-20, 02:35
Finally, This has taken forever to come. let's hope 3.0 is better

Yaan
09-06-20, 07:28
It is been postponed, let come it will come soon :)

kingjohn
09-06-20, 08:55
It is been postponed, let come it will come soon :)

Yes i saw
they took step back
bummer :thinking:



Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are delaying the release of myOrigins 3.0. After discovering issues in the final stages of QA, we've made the difficult decision to postpone the release to avoid the risk of compromising the stability of our website as we work to address the issue.

When we have an expected launch date, we will let you know. We are working as quickly as possible to resolve all issues.

We apologize for any inconvenience and for the change in plans.
If you have any questions, please contact the FamilyTreeDNA Groups Team at [email protected]

Sincerely,
FamilyTreeDNA

Lukas
22-09-20, 18:45
Here it is:)

https://i.imgur.com/VsFTPm0.png

father

https://i.imgur.com/HwK2vyr.png

mother is too pure here:)
https://i.imgur.com/QSOC2jV.png

torzio
22-09-20, 19:22
My new one .............the 8% Anatolian I had has finally disappeared ,


Europe 100%


Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
45%

Greece & Balkans
11%

Sardinia
5%


Western Europe
Great Britain
19%

Central Europe
10%


Eastern Europe
East Slavic
5%

Baltic
Baltic
5%






Better , than previous version...................different to Ancestry, 23andme and MyHeritages ones

Carlos
23-09-20, 02:51
Europe100%

Southern Europe
66%

Iberian Peninsula
39%

Sardinia
13%

Basque
11%

Italian Peninsula
3%

Greece & Balkans
info
<0%

Malta & Sicily
info
<0%

Western Europe
31%

Central Europe
28%

Ireland
3%

​Eastern Europe

West Slavic
2%

East Slavic
info
<0%
Magyar
info
<0%

Finnish
<2%




I did not know they were updating it, they had not warned me.

Carlos
23-09-20, 03:10
Oh yeah! I had forgotten the map


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7yHx-hCiX1g/X2pJD37vG3I/AAAAAAAAEls/OyWNrSNhBjki-h5_OB3_FsXyoQwBmJ6rwCLcBGAsYHQ/s886/MapeFTDNA2020.jpeg

Duarte
23-09-20, 03:26
Not for all users. Not available for me for while.

https://i.imgur.com/b3vpbfH.jpg

kingjohn
23-09-20, 08:23
Mine in line with my
Known geneology :good_job:

https://i.imgur.com/PJtQJeh.jpg

bigsnake49
23-09-20, 16:28
Mine:

12334

Hmmmmmm...here are my Ancestry.com results:

12342

Duarte
23-09-20, 19:38
Not for all users. Not available for me for while.

https://i.imgur.com/b3vpbfH.jpg

Done. Today my results are available. Europe 96% (63% Iberian, 28% Italian, 5% Central Europe, 1% Scadinavian), 2% Middle Eastern (2% Noth African - Magreb and Egypt) and 2% Africa (Congo). Logical results, considering that I am mainly a Colonial Portuguese and I am in a different clade than the one represented by the IBS (Iberian population of Spain), as shown in the latest figure:

Postsript: 90% Southern Europe. Nice :smile::good_job:

https://i.imgur.com/fdoYolR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PsNjZ49.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N5uT4sw.png

kingjohn
23-09-20, 19:49
Done. Today my results are available. Europe 96% (63% Iberian, 28% Italian, 5% Central Europe, 1% Scadinavian), 2% Middle Eastern (2% Noth African - Magreb and Egypt) and 2% Africa (Congo). Logical results, considering that I am mainly a Colonial Portuguese and I am in a different clade than the one represented by the IBS (Iberian population of Spain), as shown in the latest figure:

https://i.imgur.com/fdoYolR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PsNjZ49.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N5uT4sw.png


nice :cool-v:
look like they ftdna more or less nailed it this time :thinking:
your italian peninsula in also high
do you happen to have northern italian ancestery ?
( since many white brazilians do ) :thinking:
regards
adam

Duarte
23-09-20, 19:59
nice :cool-v:
look like they ftdna more or less nailed it this time :thinking:
your italian peninsula in also high
do you happen to have northern italian ancestery ?
( since many white brazilians do ) :thinking:
regards
adam

Hi Adam.
I have no news of Italian ancestors in my family (maternal and paternal). In fact, most autosomal calculators give me a high percentage of Italians. Until proven otherwise, I believe in the overlap of Iberians with northern Italians. Thank you very much for starting this topic. Today I'm out of juice. Tomorrow I will repay the courtesy of you having liked my post. :good_job::smile::smile:

italouruguayan
23-09-20, 20:17
Mine....12335

Sent from my SM-G9600 using Eupedia Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=89698)

italouruguayan
23-09-20, 20:20
Europe
85%
Southern Europe

Italian Peninsula
49%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Iberian Peninsula
4%

Western Europe
Central Europe
8%

Eastern Europe
East Slavic
7%

Americas
12%
Americas

Amerindian – Central & South Mexico
11%
Amerindian – Andes & Caribbean
info
<1%
Amerindian – Central America
info
<1%

Middle East
<3%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt
info
<3%

Africa
<2%
Horn of Africa
Eritrea, Northern Ethiopia & Somalia
info
<2%

italouruguayan
23-09-20, 20:30
Some things have surprised me:

1- In my maternal line, Portuguese and Spanish surnames predominate widely. However, my Iberian component is 4%, while the East Slavic is 7%.

2-The Amerindians of my country were related to tribes of the Pampas and the south of Brazil. However, my main Amerindian component is from southern Mexico (11%). It is not impossible ... but it is highly unlikely.

3-The African slaves who came to South America came, almost entirely from the African Atlantic facade. However, my sub-Saharan component is from the Horn of Africa (<2%) ....

PaschalisB
23-09-20, 21:03
Europe 96%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula 45%

Greece & Balkans 34%

Eastern Europe
Magyar 13%

Baltic
Baltic4%


Middle East4%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 4%

Middle East Jewish
Mizrahi Jewish<1%

bigsnake49
24-09-20, 14:03
Europe 96%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula 45%

Greece & Balkans 34%

Eastern Europe
Magyar 13%

Baltic
Baltic4%


Middle East4%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 4%

Middle East Jewish
Mizrahi Jewish<1%



What's up with all the Magyar component all of a sudden for Greeks?

lacreme
24-09-20, 15:17
What's up with all the Magyar component all of a sudden for Greeks?

Judging by various results posted elsewhere,whatever the ethnic backround Magyar,Irish or various jewish groups are the new hotness on this update :laughing: .
Almost everyone seems to get at least one of those..

The updated results of my Greek friend.
He gets the traces of various jewish groups in his case
https://i.imgur.com/JtmLq0z.jpg

Archetype0ne
24-09-20, 15:33
Lost my British Isles component...
Sardinia was added. My guess is to push me autosomaly further west, and/or include some Paleo component that differentiates me from modern day Balkans. It makes sense since I lost Italy/British Isles in my component after the update.

https://i.imgur.com/LHMJChI.png

PS: A bit confused, is Greece not considered Balkans? Or is there some other reason for the nomenclature being "Greece & Balkans"?

kingjohn
24-09-20, 16:15
Judging by various results posted elsewhere,whatever the ethnic backround Magyar,Irish or various jewish groups are the new hotness on this update :laughing: .
Almost everyone seems to get at least one of those..

The updated results of my Greek friend.
He gets the traces of various jewish groups in his case
https://i.imgur.com/JtmLq0z.jpg


yes but extremely low <1%
i think aegean greeks or some other middle eastern score some of the jewish refernces ( sefhardi , or mizrahi):thinking:
i saw a palestinian who score 12% sefhardi and some mizrahi
same goes for a lebanese christain i saw who score 19% sefhardi and some 8% mizrahi
obviously it is false positive ....:thinking:
but i do rearly see non- jews europeans who score those clusters and if they do extremely low% :thinking:
the bigest problem of this update is the magyar refernce ( to choose hungary a central european country who is a mixed of balka+ germanic+ slavic)
was a bad idea to begin with .....:rolleyes2:
so thats why we see some overlap with non- jewish europeans who score it ....

p.s
the aschenazi cluster is stable as a rock
my father mother is full aschenazi and he score 51% asckenazi in the new update .....
the sefhardi and mizrhi clusters not so much and i do see false positive cases ......
about the greece- balkan cluster
i saw some southern bulgarian results who scored 100% greece -balkan :shocked:
they might used some southern bulgarians as reference for this cluster :thinking:

Duarte
24-09-20, 16:20
Lost my British Isles component...
Sardinia was added. My guess is to push me autosomaly further west, and/or include some Paleo component that differentiates me from modern day Balkans. It makes sense since I lost Italy/British Isles in my component after the update.

https://i.imgur.com/LHMJChI.png

PS: A bit confused, is Greece not considered Balkans? Or is there some other reason for the nomenclature being "Greece & Balkans"?

Hi Archetype0ne

I expanded my results to show all populations to see all the FTDNA's population clusters. Greece & Balcans represents a unique population cluster. Next I post the explanations of FTDNA about how to understand the groups and subgroups represented by Continental Regions, Overarching Populations, and Population Clusters.

https://i.imgur.com/eR1BdOj.png

https://i.imgur.com/D5xwHoF.png
https://imgur.com/a/FCTd732


https://imgur.com/a/FCTd732

Regio X
24-09-20, 19:17
Here're our results, mine and maternal uncle's.


Mine
https://i.imgur.com/RSBoOzt.jpg




Uncle's
https://i.imgur.com/3sOF2TB.jpg



No comments. :disappointed:

bigsnake49
24-09-20, 19:41
Here're our results, mine and maternal uncle's.


Mine
https://i.imgur.com/RSBoOzt.jpg




Uncle's
https://i.imgur.com/3sOF2TB.jpg



No comments. :disappointed:
Wow, you're all over the place.

Carlos
24-09-20, 19:58
Well, I think 100% European is very good because I have not missed Europe for half an hour.


Although this is autosomal there must be something in the trajectory of the haplogroups that could be a clue the smaller in My Origin values in minority haplogroups in Europe or no

Duarte
24-09-20, 20:37
Mine in line with my
Known geneology :good_job:

https://i.imgur.com/tVcOcgH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PJtQJeh.jpg

@KingJohn
Your Jewish origin is well configured in his autosomal results: 45% Jew (Ashkenazi + Sephardic) + 47% Southern Europe (Greece & Balcans + Malta & Sicily). The remaining difference to 100% is divided into population noises in the Middle East. Congratulations. :good_job:

kingjohn
24-09-20, 20:56
thanks durate :smile:
you anlayse it very well :good_job:
best regards
adam

p.s
now let us hope for the chromosome viewer update

Regio X
24-09-20, 21:09
Wow, you're all over the place.And there is this match of my uncle, full North Italian in ancestry, that scores 0% for Italian Peninsula. Sorry to say, but no good. I wonder if FTDNA uses any reference from North Italy.

Duarte
24-09-20, 21:48
And there is this match of my uncle, full North Italian in ancestry, that scores 0% for Italian Peninsula. Sorry to say, but no good. I wonder if FTDNA uses any reference from North Italy.

Perhaps you and your uncle are too displaced to the north, which made you and him capture the population clusters of Great Britain and Central Europe, in the absence of specific populations in northern Italy. The FTDNA algorithm has chosen for you two some populations that would normally appear as populacional clusters of natives from Germany and France and maybe British Isles. For me there was an improvement, since I had 16% British ancestry in version 2 and now in this version 3 I have zero. I had 72% of Iberian ancestry in version 2 and now I have 63%. The differences was attributed to the Italian Peninsula. Considering that the Iberian and Italian populations overlap in many of the autosomal algorithms, the loss of 9% of Iberian ancestry and 16% of British ancestry in favor of the Italian one is not so serious I think.

emc
25-09-20, 01:16
At least my Iberian is in line with my paper trail this time. As for the high Central European, I guess it’s because my Italian is mostly from the north. My new results:
1234012341
12338
12339

Boreas
25-09-20, 04:23
About clusters; Baltic, Magyar, North Caucasus, South Caucasus, East Caucasus etc. These are good detail ones

However; Greece & Balkans , Anatolia & Mesopotamia are not. Looks like they didn't care

I have already lost my interest

and guys please share old results too

kingjohn
25-09-20, 06:26
southwest ukranian woman
close to moldova border :smile:




West Slavic 47%
East Slavic 6%
Greece & Balkans 33%:cool-v:
Baltic 9%
Finland 4%
Southern Levant 1%


p.s
for me personally it is better than version v2.
but i can understand people who are frustrated with v3 version and don't like there results :thinking:

Regio X
25-09-20, 16:19
Perhaps you and your uncle are too displaced to the north, which made you and him capture the population clusters of Great Britain and Central Europe, in the absence of specific populations in northern Italy. The FTDNA algorithm has chosen for you two some populations that would normally appear as populacional clusters of natives from Germany and France and maybe British Isles. For me there was an improvement, since I had 16% British ancestry in version 2 and now in this version 3 I have zero. I had 72% of Iberian ancestry in version 2 and now I have 63%. The differences was attributed to the Italian Peninsula. Considering that the Iberian and Italian populations overlap in many of the autosomal algorithms, the loss of 9% of Iberian ancestry and 16% of British ancestry in favor of the Italian one is not so serious I think.Duarte, will PM you.

spruithean
25-09-20, 16:38
p.s
for me personally it is better than version v2.
but i can understand people who are frustrated with v3 version and don't like there results :thinking:



I think a large amount of people do not like the results because frankly FTDNA did a pretty poor job IMO. You have people with predominately British ancestry getting results saying 0% British or people of Yemeni Arab origin being labeled as “Yemenite Jewish”. Even my own results make no sense for my known origins via paper trail, something I would expect to see in my results (since it makes up such a large portion of my family tree) returns with “0%”.

kingjohn
25-09-20, 17:44
I think a large amount of people do not like the results because frankly FTDNA did a pretty poor job IMO. You have people with predominately British ancestry getting results saying 0% British or people of Yemeni Arab origin being labeled as “Yemenite Jewish”. Even my own results make no sense for my known origins via paper trail, something I would expect to see in my results (since it makes up such a large portion of my family tree) returns with “0%”.
Hi
I respect your opinions :smile:
To put all the cards on the table
Ftdna are better in there family finder tool
And y haplogroup and mtdna tests
Much less in there myorigins tool
....:thinking:
But false positive will happen as long as ftdna use
Those jewish refernces ( mizrahi, sefhardi, yemenite jews)
It is logical to expect overlapp in genetic markers... between non -jewish middle eastern population with those jewish references to some extent....

P.s
I also see
Those false positives in my heritage results of many people...
Having said all that i saw some results in anthrogenica of my origins 3.0 update...
And i see iberians and eastern europeans results that to me look logic..
Maybe they blew it with people of british ancestery hope they will improve in the future for all dissapointed people out there:smile:

italouruguayan
25-09-20, 21:17
And there is this match of my uncle, full North Italian in ancestry, that scores 0% for Italian Peninsula. Sorry to say, but no good. I wonder if FTDNA uses any reference from North Italy.


Hard to understand.
My father is 100% of Northern Italian origin.
My mother had a Neapolitan great-grandfather. And I am 49% Italian ...

Regio X
26-09-20, 01:34
Hard to understand.
My father is 100% of Northern Italian origin.
My mother had a Neapolitan great-grandfather. And I am 49% Italian ...Hard, isn't it? And at the same time we see in this thread a Greek (PaschalisB) scoring well for Italian Peninsula: 45% (same as torzio, and higher than my uncle's and mine). It reminds me my mother scoring almost 50% for Balkan in MyHeritage. lol Also Duarte, Iberian in ancestry, scores almost 30% for Italian Peninsula.

Imo 0% is not acceptable for a N. Italian in ancestry, as well as too high scores for clusters such UK.
Below are the results of this Brazilian, with the permission of his representative. The Southern Euro part is divided into Greece & Balkan and Sardinia only. His actual ancestry is 87.5% from BL and 12.5% from N. TV.

https://i.imgur.com/LVjdPcn.jpg

torzio
26-09-20, 19:59
Hard, isn't it? And at the same time we see in this thread a Greek (PaschalisB) scoring well for Italian Peninsula: 45% (same as torzio, and higher than my uncle's and mine). It reminds me my mother scoring almost 50% for Balkan in MyHeritage. lol Also Duarte, Iberian in ancestry, scores almost 30% for Italian Peninsula.

Imo 0% is not acceptable for a N. Italian in ancestry, as well as too high scores for clusters such UK.
Below are the results of this Brazilian, with the permission of his representative. The Southern Euro part is divided into Greece & Balkan and Sardinia only. His actual ancestry is 87.5% from BL and 12.5% from N. TV.

https://i.imgur.com/LVjdPcn.jpg


mine below and my wife underneath...her line both paternal and maternal and on the Livenza river, which is the border of Veneto and Friuli ( her father , northern part of Livenza and her mother southern part which is venezia province

https://i.postimg.cc/CK4jVy9r/ftdna-v3.png (https://postimages.org/)


Wife's data
Europe 100%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
39%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Western Europe
Central Europe
32%
Scandinavia
11%



In Version 1 , I had no Anatolian ....in version 2 , I had 8% Anatolian and 3% Greek/balkan .......in V3 , I have zero Anatolian and 11% Greek/Balkan



In regards to UK clusters .................I have 4 x "uk clusters" matches in ftdna with the Hill families of North and South Carolina ....they are Scots and went to USA in 1730

Regio X
27-09-20, 04:48
fwiw

Below fifteen myOrigins 3.0 results from Brazilians with full North Italian ancestry. Courtesy of the same fellow who provided the results I posted previously. He made an awesome job testing many distant relatives. Some (few) of them are matches of my uncle, since they share an ancestry location.

https://i.imgur.com/OJifM2M.jpg

Boreas
27-09-20, 09:22
I got my and my brothers result. Those are nonsense.

My Brother - Greeks/Balkan - 35
Italy - 14

Me - Greeks/Balkan -3
Italy - 35


I have 15% Magyar, he doesn't have any

Stuvanè
27-09-20, 12:25
Perhaps it has become partly more defined, I have some doubts about the Sicilian-Maltese sample, whose share in users of other forums appears in continental populations (including Hungarians...), but paradoxically it's missing precisely among Sicilians (!)
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/120333919_330927788354902_5384626109618250707_n.pn g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=gwSEnfK66NgAX9WrZmw&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=d350c11849415dc31e220b034c91c874&oe=5F9574CF

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/120264911_1106159186506432_7516270008860694198_n.p ng?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=IUHssavH4wwAX-Rjgjd&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=bca6effcaec941ac3d359fa1a2ae03e7&oe=5F96D810

kingjohn
27-09-20, 12:58
fwiw
Below fifteen myOrigins 3.0 results from Brazilians with full North Italian ancestry. Courtesy of the same fellow who provided the results I posted previously. He made an awesome job testing many distant relatives. Some (few) of them are matches of my uncle, since they share an ancestry location.
https://i.imgur.com/OJifM2M.jpg
Thanks :good_job:
Some of them score 20% greece balkans
Nice :cool-v:
Some random results different etnicity::smile:

Azerbaijan Rep.
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%
Southern Levant
6%
Eastern Caucasus
19%
Southern Caucasus
19%
West Slavic
3%
Magyar
3%
Indus Valley
3%
southern bulgarian
Greece & Balkans - 100% ( they maybe used mainland greeks and south bulgarians for this cluster)
full lebanese christian
Middle East 98%
Northern Levant 76%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 21%
Arabian Peninsula <2%
Europe 2%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans <2%

full greek cypriot
Italian Peninsula 65%
Ashkenazi Jewish <1%
Northern Levant: 19%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia: 14%
Sephardic Jewish: <2%
full croatian
west salvic : 40%
east slavic : 10%
central europe : 32%
baltic: 7%
greece balkan : 8%
sicily / malta : 2%

full tuscan
ITALIAN PENINSULA:54%
IBERIAN PENINSULA:14%
SARDINIA: 6%
IRELAND:10%
CENTRAL EUROPE:16%

full costa- rican :
iberian peninsula: 62%
scandinavia : 3%
ireland <2%
finland <1%
amerindian - central america : 30%
africa : 3%
maghreb < 1%

full ukranian
East Slavic
45%
West Slavic
28%
Baltic
24%
Greece & Balkans
2%
Central Europe<2%

Florina north greece
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florina
( i don't know if this person define himself as macedonian or slavic macedonian )������
His results:
86% greece -balkans
14% west slavic

Full belarusian person:
- East Slavic 67%
- West Slavic 33%

Full pashtun person:
• Afghanistan & Northern Pakistan 30%
• Indus Valley 29%
• Southern India 9%
• Western India 6%
• Northern India 4%
• Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 8%
• Southern Caucasus 6%
• Magyar 6%
• East Slavic <2%
• Scandinavia <2%

emc
28-09-20, 14:22
This update wasn't so good for my grandma. Her grandparents were from Mantua, Lucca, Reggio Emilia and Padua:

1234512346

kingjohn
28-09-20, 14:25
This update wasn't so good for my grandma. Her grandparents were from Mantua, Lucca, Reggio Emilia and Padua:
12343
12344
can't see the pictures :sad-2: ( maybe it is only me )
P.s
Ok now i can see her results :cool-v:
Weird in my iphone i can
In my computer i couldn't:thinking:
Her iberian is to high:rolleyes2: ( if she doesn't have portuguase ancestery and only north italian ancestery the rest look logic to me )



southern romanian

West Slavic 25%
East Slavic 3%
Magyar 4%


Greece & Balkans 42%
Sardinia 14%


Ireland <2%
Great Britain 4%

Baltic 4%
Finnish 2%

Druze <1%
Sephardic Jewish <1%




A Czech
70% West Slavic
20% Central Europe
8% Italian Peninsula
<2% Magyar


damn look logic :good_job:

HYGILI4K
29-09-20, 00:44
Now my results are much more precise. Father of full italian descent (mostly from north), central portuguese mother. The only think that doesn't make sense is the Magyar.

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Dorquest
02-10-20, 18:44
Europe
100%

Western Europe 79%

Central Europe
29%
Scandinavia
25%
Ireland
25%

Great Britain

<0%


Eastern Europe 13%

West Slavic
13%

Southern Europe 8%

Basque
3%
Iberian Peninsula
3%
Italian Peninsula
<2%

No British, first time for me. Must be buried in the Central European... or Scandinavia. Must be a Norman or Viking invader. Hey I'm part Italian too... Omnium Rerum Principia Parva Sunt !


Old results:

Europe 100%
European West and Central Europe 86%
European Scandinavia 11%
European East Europe 3%

TardisBlue
02-10-20, 21:14
Here's my update, it's a vast improvement compared to MyOrigins 2.0:

https://i.ibb.co/F5dx0Md/Capture-d-cran-2020-10-02-21-05-52.png

For comparison, MyOrigins 2.0 gave me:
West and Central Europe: 55% Southeast Europe: 17% East Europe: 9% Middle-East: 19%

kingjohn
03-10-20, 09:17
Here's my update, it's a vast improvement compared to MyOrigins 2.0:
https://i.ibb.co/F5dx0Md/Capture-d-cran-2020-10-02-21-05-52.png
For comparison, MyOrigins 2.0 gave me:
West and Central Europe: 55% Southeast Europe: 17% East Europe: 9% Middle-East: 19%
Nice :cool-v:
Look generally speaking more or less
correct reflecting your campanian and french roots:thinking:
Thanks for sharing :good_job:



p.s
full croatian from split :smile:

Greece & Balkans
40%
Iberian Peninsula
5%
West Slavic
43%
Baltic
12%

only the iberian is weird but it is low % :cool-v:

kingjohn
05-10-20, 15:42
full moroccan berber

maghreb- egypt - 83%

mizrahi jewish < 3%
yemenite jewish < 1%

malta-sicily -6%
sardinia -6%
ireland 3%

p.s
except the ireland 3 %
everything look logic to me
the person himself didn't like his results
i think they are fair and logic for a berber

kingjohn
10-10-20, 19:29
full lithaunian (don't know from where in lithaunia)
baltic - 73%
west slavic -27%


eastern poland
west slavic -64%
baltic -27%
greece balkan - 10%


full danish ( don't know from where in denmark )
scandinavia 100% ( there are still some pure people or he matches the scandinavian refrences of ftdna like a glove ....):thinking:

Duarte
13-10-20, 02:40
Take a look at this, Adam. It is my results of the Vahaduo Dodecad K7b Ancient added from the samples below (samples from ancient Iberians from the study by Olalde et al):



I3575_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0.14, 9.54,0.2,7.03,34.33,48.26,0.5
I3578_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0,10. 93,0,5.76,36.91,46.41,0
I3583_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,2.35, 8.37,0.62,4.44,38.23,46,0
I3775_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCata lonia,0,7.14,0,0.88,23.47,65.44,3.07
I3776_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCata lonia,0,13.47,1.63,0,22.18,62.72,0
I3778_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCata lonia,4.01,4.41,0,0,23.65,67.93,0
I3808_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndal usia,2,17.88,0.5,4.35,40.12,35.16,0
I3866_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCata lonia,0,11.62,0,1.65,23.66,63.07,0
I3980_677–866calCE_VentasdeZafarrayaGranadaAndal usia,0,14.43,0,6.6,39.97,39,0
I4054_200–400CE_PlazaEinsteinGranadaAndalusia,0. 26,17.28,0,4.17,34.23,43.72,0.33
I6490_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalon ia,0,9.63,0,1.64,22.71,64.93,1.09
I6491_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalon ia,0,28.22,0,0.05,20.06,51.67,0
I6492_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalon ia,4.87,2.25,0,0,17.23,75.5,0.15
I7158_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalon ia,0,0,0,0,55.23,44.77,0
I7423_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndal usia,0,4.36,0,4.57,38.75,51.68,0.63
I7424_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndal usia,0.07,16.07,0.01,4.01,36.02,43.82,0
I7426_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndal usia,0,5.57,6.56,2.97,39.98,37.89,7.02
I7458_1100–1300CE_AlhamadeGranadaGranadaAndalusi a,0,28.23,3.86,0,18.49,49.42,0
I7499_1000–1100CE_HuéscarGranadaAndalusia,0,19. 14,0,4.93,39.83,35.51,0.59
I7500_900–1100CE_TorrenuevaGranadaAndalusia,4.01 ,17.36,1.56,3.6,38.5,34.96,0
I7672_785–801CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCata lonia,4.31,0.94,0,0.13,19.05,75.56,0
I7674_785–801CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCata lonia,6.01,2.74,0,1.51,29.37,60.37,0
I8145_1300–1500CE_LaZubiaGranadaAndalusia,0.25,9 .27,0,7.59,35.53,47.36,0
I8147_1300–1500CE_LaZubiaGranadaAndalusia,0,13.1 5,0,5.82,46.76,33.6,0.68
I10854_973–1150calCE_SantJuliàdRamisGironaCatal onia,0,0,0,0,34.36,51.24,14.4
I10897_1033–1204calCE_SantJuliàdRamisGironaCata lonia,1.07,8.1,0.81,1.73,20.91,65.34,2.03
I12029_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,6.8 8,6.85,0,0,14.6,71.66,0
I12030_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,4.2 5,13.57,0.17,2.91,33.05,46.05,0
I12031_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,0.9 8,14.06,0.53,0.65,21.59,60.35,1.84
I12033_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,1.9 ,16.36,0,0,15.52,65.11,1.12
I12162_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,0,1 4.7,0,1.32,16.18,65.65,2.16
I12646_1100–1300CE_València,0,0,0,5.77,52.4,41. 83,0
I12648_1100–1300CE_València,0,6.65,0,2.5,24.8,6 4.11,1.93
I12650_1100–1300CE_València,0,0,0,0.84,28.21,70 .95,0
I2469_910–840calBCE_ElSotilloLaguardiaÁlavaBasq ueCountry,0.96,10.39,0,0,26.85,61.8,0
I2472_1605–1425calBCE_ElSotilloLaguardiaÁlavaBa squeCountry,0,0.47,0,0,28.93,70.01,0.59
I3238_2500–2200BCE_CuevadelaPalomaSotodelasRegue rasAsturias,0,5.7,0,0.99,20.22,72.24,0.84
I3324_360–193calBCE_OrceGranadaAndalusia,0,6.28, 1.26,0.72,22.46,69.06,0.23
I3576_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0,11. 2,1.11,5.01,36.86,45.82,0
I3581_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0,10. 11,0.1,3.93,36.47,48.03,1.35
I4055_200–400CE_PlazaEinsteinGranadaAndalusia,0, 8.83,2.52,4.38,35.66,48.6,0
I8209_450–400BCE_EmpúriesGironaCatalonia,0.06,8 .75,0,0.48,22.74,67.68,0.29
I8339_100–200CE_EmpúriesGironaCatalonia,3.12,1. 86,0,0.48,24.47,68.78,1.28
I12032_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,0,1 2.87,1.37,0.44,17.35,67.97,0
I12410_515–375calBCE_515–375calBCE_PacsdelPene dèsBarcelonaCatalonia,0,0,0,1.23,28.09,69.69,0.98
I12561_700–500BCE_AlcaládelRíoSevillaAndalusia ,5.63,0,0,0,30.37,64,0
I12640_696–540BCE_SabadellBarcelonaCatalonia,0,0 .87,0,1.51,31.9,65.73,0
I12878_507–366calBCE_PacsdelPenedèsBarcelonaCat alonia,0,0,0,0.67,28.54,70.79,0
VAD002_1689–1528calBCE_ValdescusaHervíasLaRioja ,0,0,0.85,0,26.34,71.58,1.22
I1977_1660–1454calBCE_LaguardiaÁlavaBasqueCount ry,0,5.9,0,0.36,27.36,66.37,0
I3243_2500–2200BCE_CuevadelaPalomaAsturias,0,12. 31,0,0,13.96,68.84,4.9
VisigothIberianGirona_I12034,0.02,6.92,0.13,0.33,2 2.96,67.77,1.86
CuevadelaPalomaSpain_2350BC_I3239,3.34,4.9,0,0.98, 20.83,69.36,0.59
IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498,1.24,9.8,1.8,3.76,31 .87,51.54,0
RomanSoldier_FN_2,0,7.73,0.24,3.09,25,62.76,1.19
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584,0,8.47,0.09,2.75,28.5 4,58.52,1.63
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585,1.09,9.01,0.91,3.16,3 1.97,53.67,0.21
EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981,0,10.91,0,4.28,32 .53,51.91,0.37
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982,0,7.79,0.68,4.87,34.4 7,52.19,0
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983,0,12.09,0,5.98,37.14, 43.91,0.89
CarthagoAl-AndalusAlhama_I7457,0,10.19,0,7.01,33.69,49.11,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673,1.4,8.5,0,0.6 4,27.68,61.17,0.61
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675,0,7.27,0,1.12 ,27.36,63.47,0.78
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852,1.99,9.12,0,1.69,26. 20,61,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853,1.36,11.07,0,1.68,29 .33,56.56,0
Roman-EraEmpuries_I10866,0.33,5,0.78,6.23,27.53,60.14,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892,0.21,10.18,0.24,1.52 ,28.53,58.85,0.47
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895,0,8.58,0.17,1.62,29. 37,59.86,0.39
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514,0,8.58,1.57,3.15 ,29.37,56.66,0.67
SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515,0,12.15,0,2.76,32. 25,51.62,1.22
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516,0,10.12,0.32,2.9 ,29.76,56.68,0.22
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649,0,14.79,0.71,1.52,2 9.59,53.39,0
Post-ReconquistaGranada_I7425,0,12.2,0,8.37,32.89,44.99 ,1.54
Hispano-RomanTaifaofValencia_I12647,0,11.44,0.55,4.55,33.5 6,49.9,0
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12645,0.74,17.35,0,0.69,3 2.11,49.1,0
Late-RomanEraMontefrioGranada_I3582,2.13,10.54,0,4.58,3 5.22,47.53,0
Greco-EraEmporion_425BC_I8341,2.02,0,0.35,0,18.99,74.51, 4.14
LateRoman-EraEmporion_I8343,0,7.71,0,1.57,35.42,55.3,0
BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_1290BC_I12208,0.44,0.36,0,1. 77,30.57,65.52,1.35
Roman-CarthagoMixEmpuries_I8475,0.57,14.41,0.41,0.83,33. 01,50.77,0
BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_1290BC_I12209,0,0,0,1.04,28. 17,69.64,1.15
Hispano-Roman-MehrebiCordobaCaliphate_I7497,0,8.89,0,4.92,38.16, 45.1,2.92
Post-ReconquistaGranada_I3807,0,13.99,0.81,4.35,33.34,4 7.5,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7676,1.47,13.47,0, 0,21.59,63.48,0
IberianSettlementCataloniaSpain_I3496,1.67,1.74,0. 52,1.1,25.39,69.59,0
Iberian/SpaniardCordobaCaliphat_I3809,4.39,14.15,0,3.58,28 .85,49.02,0
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3574,1.04,12.02,0,1.92,32. 24,52.77,0
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3579,3.02,12.97,0.19,2.04, 31.84,49.94,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10851,2.61,12.48,0,1.53,24 .08,59.31,0
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3577,0,1.99,0.95,2.13,36.1 3,58.8,0
IberianTaifaofValencia_I12644,0,10.18,1.44,4.52,35 .72,48.13,0
TrypillianVertebaCaveUkraine_3500_BC_I1926,0,1.22, 0,0.96,38.88,58.94,0
CopperAgeAlburg-LerchenhaidStraubingBavaria_2225BC_I3590,0,14.44,0 .99,1.56,21.37,61.64,0
LaZubiaGranadaAndaluzia_1300-1500CE_I8146,0,11.3,0,11.9,33.42,43.37,0
NE_Iberia_Pladel'HortaSarriàdeTerGirona_500CE_I12 164,0.66,16.74,0.02,0,17.68,64.9,0
IlergetesTribeCatalan_600BC_I4566,6.54,21.3,17.59, 0.32,0,52.32,1.92
IlergetesTribeCatalan_200BC_I3320,0.31,3.25,0,1.7, 28.19,65.92,0.63
IlercavonesCatalan_200BC_I3321,0,1.66,0.12,0.87,28 .99,68.36,0
BasquePost-RomanEraBarcelona_650AD_I3777,0.41,10.22,1.61,0.29 ,22,65.46,0
BronzeAgeNorthernSpain_1560BC_VAD001,0.95,2.93,0,0 .55,26.2,69.26,0.1




Distance to:
Duarte


4.87655616
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514


4.96405077
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584


5.26381991
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516


5.82155478
Roman-EraEmpuries_I10866


6.29609403
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892


6.42997667
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853


6.88409035
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895


7.23286942
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585


7.28958161
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852


7.40809017
C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi


7.64748978
RomanSoldier_FN_2


7.94598012
C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna


7.95412472
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10851


8.01921443
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673


8.11814018
EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981


8.12233341
C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma


8.20206681
IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498


8.21397589
France_IA:NOR3-15


8.34727500
C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi


8.36759822
C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi


8.44770975
C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria


8.61048779
C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


8.71397728
C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica


8.76621355
C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna


8.86159692
Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA






Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.7529% / 0.75292904 | ADC: 0.25x



46.8
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584





18.4
Roman-EraEmpuries_I10866





17.2
Post-ReconquistaGranada_I7425





9.4
Foggia_MA:VK538





6.4
Ukraine_Mesolithic:I1763_Ukraine_Mesolithic





1.8
LaZubiaGranadaAndaluzia_1300-1500CE_I8146






The results of the Dodecad K7b compared with the more recent results displayed by FTDNAMyOrigins3.0 are quite consistent ,IMO, which makes this calculator an excellent commercial calculator, at least in my case. I notice that there was a small change in my last results of FTDNAMyOrigins3.0 , with the addition of <1% of Myanmar and <1% of South Africa, which did not affect the final result because the last two ethnicities that was added it was computed as background noise (probably a background noise that stayed recorded in my genotype due the old Brazilian Amerindians and the former african slaves that arrived in Brazil with Portuguese the settlers, considering that I am a native of Brazil - more a proof that FTDNA is in the correct line, in my specific case).

https://i.imgur.com/bFCwIKJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/tWPcobq.png

italouruguayan
14-10-20, 01:33
Europe
85%
Southern Europe

Italian Peninsula
49%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Iberian Peninsula
4%

Western Europe
Central Europe
8%

Eastern Europe
East Slavic
7%

Americas
12%
Americas

Amerindian – Central & South Mexico
11%
Amerindian – Andes & Caribbean
info
<1%
Amerindian – Central America
info
<1%

Middle East
<3%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt
info
<3%

Africa
<2%
Horn of Africa
Eritrea, Northern Ethiopia & Somalia
info
<2%Apparently, Version 3 had some changes....12359123601236112362

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tundrawombat34
14-10-20, 06:57
Results for us are better than with 2.0 and, in fact, arguably the best from any current company. Not that there are not likely some issues, but overall the issues seem less now.

They now break down Eastern European into more regions so that makes that are much more informative than under version 2.0 or over at 23andme. It now detects Western European for Baltic people while the old 2.0 version struggled to do that. The new 23andm3 v5 also struggles badly with that (it does find it, but wayyyy underplays it). MyHeritage sometimes finds it and sometimes misses it. The old v3 of 23andme was very good at this though, maybe the best any test has done, but they messed that up with the new v5. Also 23andm3 v3 used to give my dad a bit of Finnish and the chromosome painter showed it, for instance on one spot that my dad has a slew of 99-100% Finnish matches and now v5 doesn't give him any.

FTDNA v2.0:
me: 99% East Europe, <1% Southeast Europe

mom: 100% East Europe

dad: 91% East Europe, 8% Finland
--------------------
FTDNA v3.0:
me: 93% Baltic, 6% Ireland, <1% Magyar, <1% Western Siberian Plains

mom: 93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland

dad: 69% Baltic, 19% West Slavic, 7% Finland, 4% Ireland
================================================== ================================================== ====
23andme v5 (seems much worse for us than their old v3):
me: 95.3% Eastern European, 2.6% Greek & Balkan, 0.6% French & German, 0.8% Broadly Northwestern European, 0.7% Broadly European
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania = Highly Likely; Poland and Russia = Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Gulbene and Nereta - intermediate shading

mom: 99.8% Eastern European, 0.2% Broadly European (I forget but I think v3 said something like 91% Eastern European and 8% Broadly Northwestern European and 1% unassigned.)
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania = Highly Likely; Russia = Likely; Poland and Ukraine = Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Gulbene - intermediate shading; Nereta, Jelgava, Ludza - light shading

dad: 98.0% Eastern European, 0.9% French & German, 0.8% Broadly Northwestern European, Broadly Northwestern European 0.3%
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania - Highly Likely; Poland and Russia - Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Liepaja and Ludza - intermediate shading
================================================== =========================================
MyHeritage:
me: 95.5% Baltic; 1.0% East European; 3.5% Irish, Scottish and Welsh

mom: 100.0% Baltic

dad: 85.3% Baltic; 13.3% Irish, Scottish and Welsh; 1.4% North African
================================================== ===========
Geno 2.0:
I forget the numbers exactly for the ancient world components but they could be parsed to imply:
mom: might have a lot of Baltic/Eastern European and a bit of Western European and a little bit of Oceanian
dad: might have a lot of Baltic/Eastern European, a bit of Western European, a bit of some sort of Romanian/western Ukrainian/general Balkan type element and some Finnish and possible a touch of something more exotic
================================================== ===========

now as per what we have managed going by genealogical research:
mom: 37.5% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Nereta, Latvia; 12.5% unknown father of lateish 1800s ancestor (just over border in Lithuania from Nereta, might well not be entirely Latvian or Lithuanian, could be Polish or Balkan or Baltic German or who knows); 25% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Valmiera, Latvia; 12.5% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Jelgava (also one born in Latvian outpost in Lithuania run by Baltic German barons who had cross ties to Jelgava, quite possible that strictly maternal line eventually leads to something very unusual and interesting, mtDNA is of a type that is Western European so some bit of this 12.5% virtually certainly goes to something not actually ethnic Baltic Latvian; FWIW this person came from a spot in Lithuania where some Lithuanian testers have scored msyterious tiny bits of Oceanian on some DNA tests as did my mom on Geno 2.0 and Eurogenes K13, one of her matches actually got nearly 3% at Eurogenes K13 and some others get traces at 23andme and elsewhere); 12.5% Baltic German (but one person at 3.125% level of one of these branches has a Scottish seeming surname Barclay and at least some bit of that must eventually trace back to the UK with a potential stop in Scandinavia along the way possible as some Barclay went to the Baltics directly, some with first stop in Poland/Prussia and others first through Scandinavia; also at 1.5625% level one person has an odd rare variant Slavic type surname maybe from Slovakia or Poland but there are bizarre record confusions and this person might possibly instead supposed to be someone else who would be ethnic Baltic Latvian instead; 4.6875% of this Baltic German line stuff seems to go to people who likely would eventually trace back to Germany in the early 1700s or 1600s; and finally 3.125% level has someone with a surname that might well trace back to Germany in early 1700s or 1600s or earlier or then again just as likely trace back to ultimate Scandinavian roots; and of course these Baltic German lines can at any point farther back have ties mixed in to who knows what)

Anyway, so let us note we get from that Latvian regions of: a LOT of Nereta (37.5%-50%), quite a bit of Valmiera (25%) and some Jelgava (around 12.5%) and then the rest a mix of all over Latvia and beyond. Only 23andme tries to pick out such regions (by using DNA matches and various normalizations and weightings of them and so on) and didn't note Valmiera at all and noted possible Jelgava connection. Then it noted a heavy Riga expectation which is not apparent in reality at all, but it's known that any truly major city in a country tends to swamp out and trick the 23andme algorithm so almost everyone gets the major city in country of primary origin marked with super heaviest expectation and one has to always take that with a huge grain of salt. It then added a somewhat strong Gulbene guess, her mother was born there so kinda correct but none of the ancestry is from there and no cross relations to anyone there so it's a bit odd to show up and then the Ludza well hard to say so far zero Latgale ancestry known for my mom (or dad) but she (as well as my dad) do get a decent number of DNA matches there so somehow there is some connection over there maybe some roving Baltic German spread cross ties from there to places of our known ancestry or something?

Anyway from that as far as countries go we get origin ethnicities of: Latvian for sure tons, possibly a little Lithuanian, likely a little German, a little bit of UK that is probably Scottish, maybe could be a little Scandinavian and Polish/Slovakian and of course unknown hidden stuff. So far only 23andme really gets into countries and they picked Latvia strongly which fits, Lithuania strongly which could well fit, Russia semi-strongly which could fit but so far has not shown up, Poland possibly which could possibly fit and Ukranian which maybe could possibly fit but not shown up so far yet

Anyway from that as far as the basic ancestry comp breakdown expected:
Baltic: 75%-89% (maybe to 93% if almost every single thing went Baltic way and some more mixed in a bit farther back again in Baltic German lines)

UK (probably Scottish): fractional%-3% (depending upon how much mixing they had outside of UK on their ancestral line which has not been traced at all, whatever is not UK is probably either German or

Scandinavian but could be other stuff too)

Polish/Slovakian: 0.0%-1.6%

German: probably 5%-9%

Scandinavian: 0.0%-5%

not traced but there is probably around 1%-2% Oceanian based on various external tests and match tests

some mix of anything from someone who seemed to have one and quite possible more out of wedlock kids in mid to late 1800s in the Baltics which would total to non-Baltic of: 0.0%-12.5% and could add up to 12.% to any category above or to a new category or categories

so maybe:
Baltic: 85%-88%
German: 6%-8%
Scandinavian: 0%-5%
Scottish/UK: 1%-3%
Oceanian: 1%-2%
Slavic: 0%-3%

a wild guess of what maybe it could be:
Baltic: 85%
German: 6%
Scandinavian: 3%
Slavic: 3%
Scottish: 2%
Oceanian: 1%

but some uncertainties, certainly LOTS of Baltic but NOT all Baltic, hard to peg it especially with the one mystery mid to late 1800s out of wedlock with unknown father that could really swing things around

The traced ancestry seems to overall perfectly fit with the general ancient component projections of Geno 2.0 and with the more modern component type DNA tests the closest matches overall would seem to be 23andm3 v3 (something like 91% Eastern European, 8% Broadly Northwestern European and 1% Unassigned) and MyOrigins 3.0 (93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland) with 23andm3 v5 (99.8% Eastern European and 0.2% Broadly European) and MyHeritage (100% Baltic) results not quite as good.

And this is long so I will continue with detailed breakdown for my dad tomorrow.

kingjohn
14-10-20, 15:42
So a latvian with 93% baltic in my origins 3.0
Again logic 👍
from what i see most complains from
People of british heritage
Irish read as british- isels or vice versa,
they score
Central europe or scandinavia sometimes 🤔

kingjohn
09-11-20, 17:13
some small changes in :
ftdna my origins 3.0 references :



1. Great Britain is now England, Wales and Scotland ( look like ireland another category)

2. Malta and Sicily is now Malta

leperrine
09-11-20, 18:23
I'm J-L70

England, Wales, Scotland: 95%
West Slavic: 5%

torzio
09-11-20, 19:02
mine below and my wife underneath...her line both paternal and maternal and on the Livenza river, which is the border of Veneto and Friuli ( her father , northern part of Livenza and her mother southern part which is venezia province

https://i.postimg.cc/CK4jVy9r/ftdna-v3.png (https://postimages.org/)


Wife's data
Europe 100%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
39%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Western Europe
Central Europe
32%
Scandinavia
11%



In Version 1 , I had no Anatolian ....in version 2 , I had 8% Anatolian and 3% Greek/balkan .......in V3 , I have zero Anatolian and 11% Greek/Balkan



In regards to UK clusters .................I have 4 x "uk clusters" matches in ftdna with the Hill families of North and South Carolina ....they are Scots and went to USA in 1730


My Great Britain became Ireland and Scotland in these changes



.................

my sister does not have any british isles

Europe 100%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
51%
Sardinia
8%
Western Europe
Central Europe
38%
Baltic
Baltic
3%




strange ....when we both have 3 to 4 matches with women from Scania Sweden

Duarte
10-11-20, 22:02
some small changes in :
ftdna my origins 3.0 references :



1. Great Britain is now England, Wales and Scotland ( look like ireland another category)

2. Malta and Sicily is now Malta



Yes. Small changes in populations. Below is the complete list with all the available populations.

https://i.imgur.com/bNagzIn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vxZoYaR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0ZHnwFv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WhfIq4K.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9mWEDe3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/J37o5kW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ygh31KV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dc7urJm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AEyR4BE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pHtW1JF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i7S5WWF.jpg

mitty
11-11-20, 01:01
My old results were 97% Great Britain and 3% Scandinavia.

Here are my updated results -

Europe100%
Western Europe
England, Wales, and Scotland
35%
Ireland
34%
Scandinavia
30%
Eastern Europe
Magyar

<1%




Having done extensive research on my family tree going back hundreds of years, I have never found one single forbear from either Ireland or Scandinavia. How they come up with 34% Ireland and 30% Scandinavia is beyond me.