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West Asian seems little low do you think East and West Med could have gobbled it up? I know I seem quite Southern or MENA shifted but all my known Ancestors are from Western Germany and Northeast France and are only Ashkenazi. On the Jtest I am 38.83% Ashkenazi which is higher then most of us. and Ancestry DNA has me at 100% European Jewish.
1
East_Med
43.45
2
West_Med
19.36
3
North_Atlantic
14.91
4
West_Asian
9.83
5
Red_Sea
6.16
6
Baltic
3.68
7
Northeast_African
0.98
8
Oceanian
0.67
9
East_Asian
0.49
10
Sub-Saharan
0.46
Single Population Sharing:
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Italian_Jewish
4.98
2
Sephardic_Jewish
7.07
3
Algerian_Jewish
7.17
4
Tunisian_Jewish
7.33
5
Libyan_Jewish
8.74
6
Ashkenazi
9.67
7
South_Italian
11.71
8
Cyprian
12.46
9
East_Sicilian
13.18
10
West_Sicilian
14.58
11
Central_Greek
14.65
12
Samaritan
16.12
13
Lebanese_Druze
16.37
14
Italian_Abruzzo
16.43
15
Lebanese_Muslim
16.57
16
Lebanese_Christian
17.12
17
Palestinian
17.47
18
Syrian
18.13
19
Jordanian
18.72
20
Greek_Thessaly
19.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
85.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
14.3%
Lebanese_Druze
@
4.22
2
93.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.5%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
4.54
3
89.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.4%
Lebanese_Christian
@
4.59
4
90.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.2%
Samaritan
@
4.72
5
92.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
7.4%
Palestinian
@
4.79
6
96.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.5%
Iranian_Jewish
@
4.9
7
93.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.7%
Cyprian
@
4.91
8
97.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.9%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
4.93
9
96.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.7%
Jordanian
@
4.93
10
97.9%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.1%
Saudi
@
4.93
11
89.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.2%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
4.94
12
97.2%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.8%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
4.95
13
98.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.9%
Egyptian
@
4.96
14
98.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.5%
Assyrian
@
4.96
15
99.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
0.6%
Bedouin
@
4.97
16
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Syrian
@
4.98
17
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Abhkasian
@
4.98
18
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Adygei
@
4.98
19
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Pashtun
@
4.98
20
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Tadjik
@
4.98
These are your results using Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet.
The mixed mode shows you as a Italian Jew like.
Distance to:
HAYZOO
5.61742824
Italian_Jewish
7.95547610
Tunisian_Jewish
8.02684247
Algerian_Jewish
8.04272342
Sephardic_Jewish
8.69855735
Moroccan_Jew
9.32530965
Libyan_Jewish
11.05149311
Ashkenazi
11.41634793
Greek_Symi_Island
12.08261975
Calabria
13.18673197
Malta
13.58222000
Greek_Dodecanese
13.99604230
Greek_North_Aegean
14.38148810
Cyprian
14.38148810
Greek_Cypriot
14.46999309
Turk_Cypriot
14.61971272
Greek_Crete
14.70496175
Campania
15.23594762
East_Sicilian
15.28728230
Greek_Chios
15.34273444
Sicily
16.31212739
Molise
16.31269138
Apulia
16.79124474
Abruzzo
16.85232328
West_Sicilian
16.92257664
Greek_Ionia
https://i.imgur.com/pEOItgH.jpg
So it looks like I might be even more MENA shifted then the average Italian Jew which is very surprising I would have guessed less. However I seem to be less MENA shifted then the average Sephardic Jew on Dodecad K12b it suggests I would be closest to a Sephardi with about 4% to 5.2% East Euro Admixture. I personally like these models below as they seem accurate. It seems most Ashkenazi Jews have a close genetic profile to Sephardics with an addition of about 3-15% more North/Central/Eastern European admixture I seem to be at the lower end of that range around 4-5%
1
95.7%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.3%
Lithuanian (Dodecad)
@
1.72
2
95.9%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.1%
Lithuanians (Behar)
@
1.73
3
95.3%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.7%
Belorussian (Behar)
@
1.73
4
94.8%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
5.2%
Ukranians (Yunusbayev)
@
1.73
5
95.3%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.7%
Russian_B (Behar)
@
1.76
6
95.1%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.9%
Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)
@
1.77
7
95%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
5%
Polish (Dodecad)
@
1.8
8
95.3%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.7%
Russian (Dodecad)
@
1.81
9
96%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4%
Finnish (Dodecad)
@
1.82
10
96%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4%
FIN30 (1000Genomes)
@
1.86
11
95.4%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.6%
Russian (HGDP)
@
1.88
"West Asian" is more like Anatolia and the Armenian Highlands; a person of Levantine origin like a Jew or say a Lebanese Arab, would have less of that than East Med, which would be their primary component.
West Asian seems little low do you think East and West Med could have gobbled it up? I know I seem quite Southern or MENA shifted but all my known Ancestors are from Western Germany and Northeast France and are only Ashkenazi. On the Jtest I am 38.83% Ashkenazi which is higher then most of us. and Ancestry DNA has me at 100% European Jewish.
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Admix Results (sorted):
#
Population
Percent
1
Caucasian
34.33
2
Mediterranean
25.02
3
SW-Asian
19
4
NE-Euro
11.69
5
Baloch
6.9
6
E-African
1.53
7
Papuan
0.94
8
NE-Asian
0.52
9
Pygmy
0.07
Single Population Sharing:
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
sephardic-jew (behar)
3.31
2
morocco-jew (behar)
4.64
3
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
5.49
4
ashkenazi (harappa)
8.9
5
cypriot (behar)
15.25
6
lebanese (behar)
16.29
7
turk-aydin (hodoglugil)
17.03
8
tuscan (1000genomes)
17.38
9
tuscan (hgdp)
17.97
10
tuscan (hapmap)
18.56
11
jordanian (behar)
18.85
12
syrian (behar)
18.98
13
palestinian (harappa)
19.4
14
lebanese-muslim (haber)
19.58
15
palestinian (hgdp)
20.16
16
turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)
20.42
17
turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)
21.08
18
lebanese-christian (haber)
21.57
19
iraqi-arab (harappa)
21.83
20
egypt (henn2012)
21.87
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
96.5%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
3.5%
finnish (1000genomes)
@
1.95
2
96%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4%
lithuanian (behar)
@
1.98
3
95.7%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.3%
russian (hgdp)
@
2.05
4
95.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.4%
belorussian (behar)
@
2.05
5
95.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
ukranian (yunusbayev)
@
2.08
6
95.5%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.5%
mordovian (yunusbayev)
@
2.1
7
95.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.4%
russian (behar)
@
2.14
8
94.4%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5.6%
slovenian (xing)
@
2.14
9
95%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5%
n-european (xing)
@
2.16
10
95.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
utahn-white (hapmap)
@
2.16
11
94.3%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5.7%
hungarian (behar)
@
2.16
12
95.4%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.6%
orcadian (hgdp)
@
2.17
13
95.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
utahn-white (1000genomes)
@
2.21
14
95.2%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.8%
british (1000genomes)
@
2.21
15
55.2%
morocco-jew (behar)
+
44.8%
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
@
2.26
16
95.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.4%
chuvash (behar)
@
2.31
17
94.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5.4%
french (hgdp)
@
2.37
18
92.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
7.9%
romanian-a (behar)
@
2.39
19
92.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
7.9%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
@
2.46
20
69.3%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
30.7%
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
@
2.49
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 sephardic-jew_behar @ 3.590503
2 morocco-jew_behar @ 4.978616
3 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 5.947992
4 ashkenazi_harappa @ 9.710371
5 cypriot_behar @ 16.965946
6 lebanese_behar @ 17.674091
7 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 18.254101
8 tuscan_1000genomes @ 18.929239
9 tuscan_hgdp @ 19.576252
10 tuscan_hapmap @ 20.212818
11 jordanian_behar @ 20.336794
12 syrian_behar @ 20.523235
13 palestinian_harappa @ 21.003513
14 lebanese-muslim_haber @ 21.326862
15 palestinian_hgdp @ 21.758886
16 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 22.190931
17 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 22.879721
18 egypt_henn2012 @ 23.451275
19 iraqi-arab_harappa @ 23.645813
20 lebanese-christian_haber @ 23.681116
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ashkenazy-jew_behar +50% morocco-jew_behar @ 2.385954
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% morocco-jew_behar +25% syrian_behar +25% tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.243322
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.683474
2 cypriot_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.718558
3 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.741500
4 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.761135
5 cypriot_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.783774
6 armenian_yunusbayev + romanian-a_behar + sardinian_hgdp + yemen-jew_behar @ 1.787393
7 italian_hgdp + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar @ 1.795926
8 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.821037
9 lebanese_behar + samaritian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.826842
10 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.850118
11 assyrian_harappa + bulgarian_yunusbayev + sardinian_hgdp + yemen-jew_behar @ 1.867005
12 morocco-jew_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.910509
13 abhkasian_yunusbayev + bedouin_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.911091
14 lebanese_behar + samaritian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.916862
15 jordanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.918590
16 abhkasian_yunusbayev + bedouin_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.941729
17 jordanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.942047
18 morocco-jew_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.951995
19 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.958988
20 cypriot_behar + morocco-jew_behar + samaritian_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.960613
I seem more shifted to various places then the average Ashkenazi Jew I seem to be more West Med (Sardinian/Iberian/Neolithic South Euro)
I also seem to be more shifted in the direction of a Greater Yemen cluster or maybe a North African-Arabian cluster (Saudi, Yemeni, Bedouin, Egyptian, Natufian)
@Hayzoo
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
1 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.683474
My shortest distance in Harappa world with 4 is this::
1 french_hgdp + italian_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.584900
West Asian seems little low do you think East and West Med could have gobbled it up? I know I seem quite Southern or MENA shifted but all my known Ancestors are from Western Germany and Northeast France and are only Ashkenazi. On the Jtest I am 38.83% Ashkenazi which is higher then most of us. and Ancestry DNA has me at 100% European Jewish.
1
East_Med
43.45
2
West_Med
19.36
3
North_Atlantic
14.91
4
West_Asian
9.83
5
Red_Sea
6.16
6
Baltic
3.68
7
Northeast_African
0.98
8
Oceanian
0.67
9
East_Asian
0.49
10
Sub-Saharan
0.46
Single Population Sharing:
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Italian_Jewish
4.98
2
Sephardic_Jewish
7.07
3
Algerian_Jewish
7.17
4
Tunisian_Jewish
7.33
5
Libyan_Jewish
8.74
6
Ashkenazi
9.67
7
South_Italian
11.71
8
Cyprian
12.46
9
East_Sicilian
13.18
10
West_Sicilian
14.58
11
Central_Greek
14.65
12
Samaritan
16.12
13
Lebanese_Druze
16.37
14
Italian_Abruzzo
16.43
15
Lebanese_Muslim
16.57
16
Lebanese_Christian
17.12
17
Palestinian
17.47
18
Syrian
18.13
19
Jordanian
18.72
20
Greek_Thessaly
19.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
85.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
14.3%
Lebanese_Druze
@
4.22
2
93.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.5%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
4.54
3
89.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.4%
Lebanese_Christian
@
4.59
4
90.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.2%
Samaritan
@
4.72
5
92.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
7.4%
Palestinian
@
4.79
6
96.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.5%
Iranian_Jewish
@
4.9
7
93.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.7%
Cyprian
@
4.91
8
97.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.9%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
4.93
9
96.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.7%
Jordanian
@
4.93
10
97.9%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.1%
Saudi
@
4.93
11
89.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.2%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
4.94
12
97.2%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.8%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
4.95
13
98.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.9%
Egyptian
@
4.96
14
98.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.5%
Assyrian
@
4.96
15
99.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
0.6%
Bedouin
@
4.97
16
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Syrian
@
4.98
17
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Abhkasian
@
4.98
18
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Adygei
@
4.98
19
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Pashtun
@
4.98
20
100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Tadjik
@
4.98
Yes i do see the tendency to west -med
You score higher values in k13 than full eastern asckenazi results i saw.... :thinking:
On the other end eastern asckenazi score higher
Baltic than you....:thinking:
Which is logical that when some jews left the german rhine and moved to poland /ukraine
They aquired some baltic there...:smile:
I think your results reflect the pure aschenazi communities of the german rhine ....:cool-v:
Thanks for sharing
Regards
Adam
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