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HAYZOO
30-09-20, 15:33
West Asian seems little low do you think East and West Med could have gobbled it up? I know I seem quite Southern or MENA shifted but all my known Ancestors are from Western Germany and Northeast France and are only Ashkenazi. On the Jtest I am 38.83% Ashkenazi which is higher then most of us. and Ancestry DNA has me at 100% European Jewish.





1
East_Med
43.45


2
West_Med
19.36


3
North_Atlantic
14.91


4
West_Asian
9.83


5
Red_Sea
6.16


6
Baltic
3.68


7
Northeast_African
0.98


8
Oceanian
0.67


9
East_Asian
0.49


10
Sub-Saharan
0.46



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Italian_Jewish
4.98


2
Sephardic_Jewish
7.07


3
Algerian_Jewish
7.17


4
Tunisian_Jewish
7.33


5
Libyan_Jewish
8.74


6
Ashkenazi
9.67


7
South_Italian
11.71


8
Cyprian
12.46


9
East_Sicilian
13.18


10
West_Sicilian
14.58


11
Central_Greek
14.65


12
Samaritan
16.12


13
Lebanese_Druze
16.37


14
Italian_Abruzzo
16.43


15
Lebanese_Muslim
16.57


16
Lebanese_Christian
17.12


17
Palestinian
17.47


18
Syrian
18.13


19
Jordanian
18.72


20
Greek_Thessaly
19.73



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

85.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
14.3%
Lebanese_Druze
@
4.22


2

93.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.5%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
4.54


3

89.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.4%
Lebanese_Christian
@
4.59


4

90.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.2%
Samaritan
@
4.72


5

92.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
7.4%
Palestinian
@
4.79


6

96.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.5%
Iranian_Jewish
@
4.9


7

93.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.7%
Cyprian
@
4.91


8

97.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.9%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
4.93


9

96.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.7%
Jordanian
@
4.93


10

97.9%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.1%
Saudi
@
4.93


11

89.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.2%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
4.94


12

97.2%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.8%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
4.95


13

98.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.9%
Egyptian
@
4.96


14

98.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.5%
Assyrian
@
4.96


15

99.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
0.6%
Bedouin
@
4.97


16

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Syrian
@
4.98


17

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Abhkasian
@
4.98


18

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Adygei
@
4.98


19

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Pashtun
@
4.98


20

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Tadjik
@
4.98

Duarte
30-09-20, 16:29
These are your results using Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet.
The mixed mode shows you as a Italian Jew like.



Distance to:
HAYZOO


5.61742824
Italian_Jewish


7.95547610
Tunisian_Jewish


8.02684247
Algerian_Jewish


8.04272342
Sephardic_Jewish


8.69855735
Moroccan_Jew


9.32530965
Libyan_Jewish


11.05149311
Ashkenazi


11.41634793
Greek_Symi_Island


12.08261975
Calabria


13.18673197
Malta


13.58222000
Greek_Dodecanese


13.99604230
Greek_North_Aegean


14.38148810
Cyprian


14.38148810
Greek_Cypriot


14.46999309
Turk_Cypriot


14.61971272
Greek_Crete


14.70496175
Campania


15.23594762
East_Sicilian


15.28728230
Greek_Chios


15.34273444
Sicily


16.31212739
Molise


16.31269138
Apulia


16.79124474
Abruzzo


16.85232328
West_Sicilian


16.92257664
Greek_Ionia



https://i.imgur.com/pEOItgH.jpg

HAYZOO
30-09-20, 19:04
So it looks like I might be even more MENA shifted then the average Italian Jew which is very surprising I would have guessed less. However I seem to be less MENA shifted then the average Sephardic Jew on Dodecad K12b it suggests I would be closest to a Sephardi with about 4% to 5.2% East Euro Admixture. I personally like these models below as they seem accurate. It seems most Ashkenazi Jews have a close genetic profile to Sephardics with an addition of about 3-15% more North/Central/Eastern European admixture I seem to be at the lower end of that range around 4-5%



1

95.7%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.3%
Lithuanian (Dodecad)
@
1.72


2

95.9%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.1%
Lithuanians (Behar)
@
1.73


3

95.3%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.7%
Belorussian (Behar)
@
1.73


4

94.8%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
5.2%
Ukranians (Yunusbayev)
@
1.73


5

95.3%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.7%
Russian_B (Behar)
@
1.76


6

95.1%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.9%
Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)
@
1.77


7

95%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
5%
Polish (Dodecad)
@
1.8


8

95.3%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.7%
Russian (Dodecad)
@
1.81


9

96%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4%
Finnish (Dodecad)
@
1.82


10

96%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4%
FIN30 (1000Genomes)
@
1.86


11

95.4%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
+
4.6%
Russian (HGDP)
@
1.88

Joey37
30-09-20, 22:48
"West Asian" is more like Anatolia and the Armenian Highlands; a person of Levantine origin like a Jew or say a Lebanese Arab, would have less of that than East Med, which would be their primary component.

Carlos
01-10-20, 02:55
West Asian seems little low do you think East and West Med could have gobbled it up? I know I seem quite Southern or MENA shifted but all my known Ancestors are from Western Germany and Northeast France and are only Ashkenazi. On the Jtest I am 38.83% Ashkenazi which is higher then most of us. and Ancestry DNA has me at 100% European Jewish.

What do you get in Harappa World?

HAYZOO
01-10-20, 15:26
What do you get in Harappa World?

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Caucasian
34.33


2
Mediterranean
25.02


3
SW-Asian
19


4
NE-Euro
11.69


5
Baloch
6.9


6
E-African
1.53


7
Papuan
0.94


8
NE-Asian
0.52


9
Pygmy
0.07



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
sephardic-jew (behar)
3.31


2
morocco-jew (behar)
4.64


3
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
5.49


4
ashkenazi (harappa)
8.9


5
cypriot (behar)
15.25


6
lebanese (behar)
16.29


7
turk-aydin (hodoglugil)
17.03


8
tuscan (1000genomes)
17.38


9
tuscan (hgdp)
17.97


10
tuscan (hapmap)
18.56


11
jordanian (behar)
18.85


12
syrian (behar)
18.98


13
palestinian (harappa)
19.4


14
lebanese-muslim (haber)
19.58


15
palestinian (hgdp)
20.16


16
turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)
20.42


17
turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)
21.08


18
lebanese-christian (haber)
21.57


19
iraqi-arab (harappa)
21.83


20
egypt (henn2012)
21.87



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

96.5%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
3.5%
finnish (1000genomes)
@
1.95


2

96%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4%
lithuanian (behar)
@
1.98


3

95.7%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.3%
russian (hgdp)
@
2.05


4

95.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.4%
belorussian (behar)
@
2.05


5

95.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
ukranian (yunusbayev)
@
2.08


6

95.5%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.5%
mordovian (yunusbayev)
@
2.1


7

95.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.4%
russian (behar)
@
2.14


8

94.4%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5.6%
slovenian (xing)
@
2.14


9

95%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5%
n-european (xing)
@
2.16


10

95.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
utahn-white (hapmap)
@
2.16


11

94.3%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5.7%
hungarian (behar)
@
2.16


12

95.4%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.6%
orcadian (hgdp)
@
2.17


13

95.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.9%
utahn-white (1000genomes)
@
2.21


14

95.2%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.8%
british (1000genomes)
@
2.21


15

55.2%
morocco-jew (behar)
+
44.8%
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
@
2.26


16

95.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
4.4%
chuvash (behar)
@
2.31


17

94.6%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
5.4%
french (hgdp)
@
2.37


18

92.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
7.9%
romanian-a (behar)
@
2.39


19

92.1%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
7.9%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
@
2.46


20

69.3%
sephardic-jew (behar)
+
30.7%
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
@
2.49




Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 sephardic-jew_behar @ 3.590503
2 morocco-jew_behar @ 4.978616
3 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 5.947992
4 ashkenazi_harappa @ 9.710371
5 cypriot_behar @ 16.965946
6 lebanese_behar @ 17.674091
7 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 18.254101
8 tuscan_1000genomes @ 18.929239
9 tuscan_hgdp @ 19.576252
10 tuscan_hapmap @ 20.212818
11 jordanian_behar @ 20.336794
12 syrian_behar @ 20.523235
13 palestinian_harappa @ 21.003513
14 lebanese-muslim_haber @ 21.326862
15 palestinian_hgdp @ 21.758886
16 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 22.190931
17 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 22.879721
18 egypt_henn2012 @ 23.451275
19 iraqi-arab_harappa @ 23.645813
20 lebanese-christian_haber @ 23.681116

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ashkenazy-jew_behar +50% morocco-jew_behar @ 2.385954


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% morocco-jew_behar +25% syrian_behar +25% tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.243322


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.683474
2 cypriot_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.718558
3 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.741500
4 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.761135
5 cypriot_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.783774
6 armenian_yunusbayev + romanian-a_behar + sardinian_hgdp + yemen-jew_behar @ 1.787393
7 italian_hgdp + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar @ 1.795926
8 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.821037
9 lebanese_behar + samaritian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.826842
10 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.850118
11 assyrian_harappa + bulgarian_yunusbayev + sardinian_hgdp + yemen-jew_behar @ 1.867005
12 morocco-jew_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.910509
13 abhkasian_yunusbayev + bedouin_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.911091
14 lebanese_behar + samaritian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.916862
15 jordanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.918590
16 abhkasian_yunusbayev + bedouin_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.941729
17 jordanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.942047
18 morocco-jew_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.951995
19 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.958988
20 cypriot_behar + morocco-jew_behar + samaritian_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.960613

HAYZOO
01-10-20, 15:35
I seem more shifted to various places then the average Ashkenazi Jew I seem to be more West Med (Sardinian/Iberian/Neolithic South Euro)
I also seem to be more shifted in the direction of a Greater Yemen cluster or maybe a North African-Arabian cluster (Saudi, Yemeni, Bedouin, Egyptian, Natufian)

Carlos
01-10-20, 15:41
@Hayzoo

HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle

1 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.683474


My shortest distance in Harappa world with 4 is this::

1 french_hgdp + italian_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.584900

kingjohn
01-10-20, 17:35
West Asian seems little low do you think East and West Med could have gobbled it up? I know I seem quite Southern or MENA shifted but all my known Ancestors are from Western Germany and Northeast France and are only Ashkenazi. On the Jtest I am 38.83% Ashkenazi which is higher then most of us. and Ancestry DNA has me at 100% European Jewish.


1
East_Med
43.45


2
West_Med
19.36


3
North_Atlantic
14.91


4
West_Asian
9.83


5
Red_Sea
6.16


6
Baltic
3.68


7
Northeast_African
0.98


8
Oceanian
0.67


9
East_Asian
0.49


10
Sub-Saharan
0.46


Single Population Sharing:


#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Italian_Jewish
4.98


2
Sephardic_Jewish
7.07


3
Algerian_Jewish
7.17


4
Tunisian_Jewish
7.33


5
Libyan_Jewish
8.74


6
Ashkenazi
9.67


7
South_Italian
11.71


8
Cyprian
12.46


9
East_Sicilian
13.18


10
West_Sicilian
14.58


11
Central_Greek
14.65


12
Samaritan
16.12


13
Lebanese_Druze
16.37


14
Italian_Abruzzo
16.43


15
Lebanese_Muslim
16.57


16
Lebanese_Christian
17.12


17
Palestinian
17.47


18
Syrian
18.13


19
Jordanian
18.72


20
Greek_Thessaly
19.73


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

85.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
14.3%
Lebanese_Druze
@
4.22


2

93.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.5%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
4.54


3

89.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.4%
Lebanese_Christian
@
4.59


4

90.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
9.2%
Samaritan
@
4.72


5

92.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
7.4%
Palestinian
@
4.79


6

96.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.5%
Iranian_Jewish
@
4.9


7

93.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
6.7%
Cyprian
@
4.91


8

97.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.9%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
4.93


9

96.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
3.7%
Jordanian
@
4.93


10

97.9%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.1%
Saudi
@
4.93


11

89.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
10.2%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
4.94


12

97.2%
Italian_Jewish
+
2.8%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
4.95


13

98.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.9%
Egyptian
@
4.96


14

98.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
1.5%
Assyrian
@
4.96


15

99.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
0.6%
Bedouin
@
4.97


16

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Syrian
@
4.98


17

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Abhkasian
@
4.98


18

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Adygei
@
4.98


19

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Pashtun
@
4.98


20

100%
Italian_Jewish
+
0%
Afghan_Tadjik
@
4.98




Yes i do see the tendency to west -med
You score higher values in k13 than full eastern asckenazi results i saw.... :thinking:
On the other end eastern asckenazi score higher
Baltic than you....:thinking:
Which is logical that when some jews left the german rhine and moved to poland /ukraine
They aquired some baltic there...:smile:
I think your results reflect the pure aschenazi communities of the german rhine ....:cool-v:
Thanks for sharing
Regards
Adam