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ConfusedCelt
05-03-21, 08:06
All the rest of my ancestry was Celtic and Saxon/Scandinavian. But I had a tiny sliver of DNA titled "Balari" and I looked it up and they were a Nuragic people. And my YDNA is Haplogroup T1a2... My father is from the Netherlands and my mother is from Ireland. Where did this come from? Did it come through the steppe? Is it from farmers? Is it from later people like Carthaginians or Romans? I am really weirded out that I got such a rare and strange haplogroup

ConfusedCelt
05-03-21, 08:13
Also, nice to meet you all :)

ConfusedCelt
05-03-21, 12:20
I would upload some photos of my results but I need 20 posts to post pictures

ConfusedCelt
05-03-21, 12:36
I have reddish brown hair (curly blonde as a kid) pale skin and blue eyes and a quite "northern" face in fact I was expecting to get R1b or I1/I2 but instead its T1a... sorry for bumping

Salento
05-03-21, 17:02
Although it is possible that there were some y T with the Phoenicians, you could have chosen any ancient civilization, even the Celts.

... y T is rare and widespread, and imho some of the Ts joined a variety of populations,

The other y Haplogroups moved around in larger numbers, so they are easier to assign to ancient civilizations, some y Ts might have joined those Haplogroups when they were passing by.

torzio
05-03-21, 17:24
All the rest of my ancestry was Celtic and Saxon/Scandinavian. But I had a tiny sliver of DNA titled "Balari" and I looked it up and they were a Nuragic people. And my YDNA is Haplogroup T1a2... My father is from the Netherlands and my mother is from Ireland. Where did this come from? Did it come through the steppe? Is it from farmers? Is it from later people like Carthaginians or Romans? I am really weirded out that I got such a rare and strange haplogroup


I am also part of the T1a2 branch

as per this tree below
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Phylogenetic_T-M184_tree.png

see bottom left for T1a2 group

There are not many branches of T1a2 in the Levant or Africa.......last time I checked though was a few years ago and then it was T1a2-pages113 which was in the area you mentioned

who did you test with

torzio
05-03-21, 17:28
I have reddish brown hair (curly blonde as a kid) pale skin and blue eyes and a quite "northern" face in fact I was expecting to get R1b or I1/I2 but instead its T1a... sorry for bumping


do not bother with hair or eye colour .............most haplogroups cover most scenarios for hair and eyes

one of my grandsons has blonde curly hair and grey/blue eyes.................his brother has black curly hair and green eyes

my grandfather has the same hair as yourself ( usually called chestnut colour ) and green eyes

I was born blonde straight haired and green eyes

Both my sons have blue eyes...oldest blonde, second black hair , both straight hair

so........do not concern yourself with hair or eye colours

torzio
05-03-21, 17:31
I have reddish brown hair (curly blonde as a kid) pale skin and blue eyes and a quite "northern" face in fact I was expecting to get R1b or I1/I2 but instead its T1a... sorry for bumping

T1a2 came via haplogroup LT.......42000 years ago
and
before this, it came from
haplogroup K-M9 ........this group also has haplogroups R1a, R1b, N, O


the I1 and !2 haplogroups are further away from T1a2

torzio
05-03-21, 17:35
IMO

your branch came from South Central Asia ............most likely east side of the Caspian sea ..........it is the only place we can link with that K-M9 group with haplgroups R1a, R1b etc

torzio
05-03-21, 17:38
your group has these SNP

Y Haplogroup T1a2b1a Public
Y Haplogroup

CTS3767, CTS11984, CTS54, CTS1774, CTS6312, CTS6769, CTS7303, CTS8618, CTS8625, CTS8855, CTS9603, CTS11753, PH388, SK1478

torzio
05-03-21, 17:40
you will fit in somewhere in this group

https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-CTS3767/

torzio
05-03-21, 17:59
I suggest you join MyHeritage .....it is free.......you only need to put your name as the tree

then upload your DNA data into myheritage ( I think it is still free ) and then you can get an ethnic ancestry result ................if you are interested in this area

you will then get people you match .................avoid low confidence ones......medium confidence are 50-50 in accuracy and the blank means high confidence , which for me is 95% accurate

this is my breakup
Europe
Italian 70.2%

Italy (Veneto and Lombardy)




Balkan 15.6%

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 14.2%




I have found links with dutch and british people like yourself ............

Huracan
06-03-21, 19:53
All the rest of my ancestry was Celtic and Saxon/Scandinavian. But I had a tiny sliver of DNA titled "Balari" and I looked it up and they were a Nuragic people. And my YDNA is Haplogroup T1a2... My father is from the Netherlands and my mother is from Ireland. Where did this come from? Did it come through the steppe? Is it from farmers? Is it from later people like Carthaginians or Romans? I am really weirded out that I got such a rare and strange haplogroup

Welcome @ConfusedCelt, I am also part of this rare group but like @Torzio and @Salento I am further downstream. Still, us four are all part of T1a2b1a-CTS11984 (or other equivalent SNP names). Is your paternal line from the Netherlands? Which part? There are many of our group from Germany, Italy, and the Isles.

ConfusedCelt
07-03-21, 03:34
Sorry I am trying to quote people but it says I cant post links

I believe that my dads family comes from Limburg, its actually quite old and we have family records going back to the crusades

Huracan
08-03-21, 17:41
Sorry I am trying to quote people but it says I cant post links

I believe that my dads family comes from Limburg, its actually quite old and we have family records going back to the crusades

No worries, it takes a bit of time before you can quote and post pictures. Thanks for the info. What company did you test through? Are you on Family Tree DNA?

Daniil
02-05-21, 15:01
Hello! Please tell me about the haplogroup T1a2b (T-446). I passed the DNA test in Russia, and upload results to FTDNA, but there is very little information on the Internet, and I am not very versed in this theme.
And what analysis can I pass to find out in more detail information about my origin and possible relatives?
At FTDNA my test shows that I'm 41% west slavic, 31% east slavic and 28% baltic. Thank you!

torzio
02-05-21, 19:05
Hello! Please tell me about the haplogroup T1a2b (T-446). I passed the DNA test in Russia, and upload results to FTDNA, but there is very little information on the Internet, and I am not very versed in this theme.
And what analysis can I pass to find out in more detail information about my origin and possible relatives?
At FTDNA my test shows that I'm 41% west slavic, 31% east slavic and 28% baltic. Thank you!


welcome

There are 3 of us here with the line T1a2b-L446 .................we all go to T1a2b-Z19945 or beyond

what is your Ftdna number ID ........as I match someone from Estonia/Latvia ..............as well as a Pole from Pommeria ...............also many Germans, Belgium, Italians, and British

Salento
03-05-21, 23:27
T-L446 Mesolithic Europe
T-CTS933 Mesolithic Italy
T-Z19945 Bronze Age Italy
T-BY143483 Roman Era Italy
T-SK1480 Modern Italy

https://i.imgur.com/XRsJKFf.jpg

http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html