julia90
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Great post Julia. Sorry for keep replying in all your posts. I am not a weirdo.. It just happens that every post that gets my attention in this forum is posted from you..
I find the Griko dialect of southern Italy particularly fascinating. You should also know that the legacy of Magna Graecia is reflected in the substantial Greek genetic blueprint in modern day south Italians. Check the genetic forums of this site for more info..
Some southern Italians (eastern Sicilians, Calabrese, Lucanians) probably have more ancient Greek ancestry than some mainland Greeks, due to Slavic and Albanian influence in the latter! On some genetic charts Greeks end up pulled north into the Balkans.
Yes indeed some do, but don't forget that Southern Italy was colonized by Greeks from specific regions like Eubia and the Peloponnese. Italy did not have a major influx of Ancient Greeks from Macedonia and Thrace. Today some Greeks from those regions tend to cluster closer to other Balkanians.
I am of the opinion that there must have been some variety in Ancient Greece too. Some Ancient Greeks from the north would also be close to other non-Greek Balkanian (Paeonian, Thracian) tribes who lived close to the Greek world. So it I think it is a two way street, some Greeks cluster closter to other Balkanians due to some Slavic influence, but also because the Greeks in these localities always clustered closer to the ancestors of those people before they were later Sclavinized.
Yes indeed some do, but don't forget that Southern Italy was colonized by Greeks from specific regions like Eubia and the Peloponnese. Italy did not have a major influx of Ancient Greeks from Macedonia and Thrace. Today some Greeks from those regions tend to cluster closer to other Balkanians.
I am of the opinion that there must have been some variety in Ancient Greece too. Some Ancient Greeks from the north would also be close to other non-Greek Balkanian (Paeonian, Thracian) tribes who lived close to the Greek world. So it I think it is a two way street, some Greeks cluster closter to other Balkanians due to some Slavic influence, but also because the Greeks in these localities always clustered closer to the ancestors of those people before they were later Sclavinized.
Great post Julia. Sorry for keep replying in all your posts. I am not a weirdo.. It just happens that every post that gets my attention in this forum is posted from you..
I find the Griko dialect of southern Italy particularly fascinating. You should also know that the legacy of Magna Graecia is reflected in the substantial Greek genetic blueprint in modern day south Italians. Check the genetic forums of this site for more info..
I doubt very much that there is substantial Greek genetic blueprint in modern day south Italians. I think Julia was referring to historical and maybe cultural connections (though again I doubt that the latter are significant nowadays).
well, some northern italians can have ancient greek inflence and looks too,
Madison Grant? Ripley? Autosomal DNA (a very major determinant of phenotype) has proven these charlatans wrong in a huge way. Iberians and Italians cluster far away from Berbers in every genetic plot ever produced.
The first man is a messinese by Coon book.Caucasoid sub-races in Italy:
Sicily - Mediterranid - [Carleton S. Coon - plates]
Calabria - Mediterranid - [Rassengeschichte der Menschheit - plates]
Sicily - Mediterranid - [Rassengeschichte der Menschheit - plates]
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