mihaitzateo
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From C. S. Coon, 1939. The source is old and we don't know if author realized the research.
But I appreciate it, because in Internet there are a lot of pigment/hair/eyes charts which are from unreliable sources.
I know that in one part of North Albania people have lighter hair than in rest of Albania. Someone can suppose that in that region lived a lot of Slavs and they mostly Albanized. Probably partly there is true.
I will tell my observations from Serbia and Bosnia. I know Serbian/Bosniac people, E-V13 carriers. And they are not much dark. I know E-V13 carrier who have blue hair and eyes. What I want to say, skin/hair/eye colour has no direct link with haplogroup. But my experience is that J2 carriers are most dark.
What I say is not science because, no matter how many haplogroup carriers I know, the sample is small. From my experience J2 carriers in Serbia/Bosnia (and another ex YU countries) are the darkest, not E-V13 carriers.
From my experience Albanians in Western Kosovo, plus Urosevac, Prizren, etc., as in North and Western Macedonia Skopje, Tetovo, Gostivar etc are the darkest. Albanians in Montenegro are the lighter. I know well all regions ex YU where Albanians live. I wasn't in Albania but I believe that south from Tirana population is darker.
Here I must say that issue of skin/hair/eye color can be political incorrect. I don't say explicitly that it is political incorrect but it depends of context. But when participants understand this it is no problem to discuss.
Lol,are you serious?
What about Askenazi Jews,which have as most present hg J2?
You know they have about 50% light eyes?
And about 20-30% light hair?
Hair color and eyes color are not saying anything about someone autosomal admixture,I have seen North Africans,living in the desert with light blue eyes and Baltic people,quite swarthy,with both dark hair and eyes,scoring very high on NE admixture.
Anyway,this thread is about the theory that Thraco-Dacians were speaking some Balto-Slavic language.
And I was wondering,if that was true,how is possible that Romanians are speaking a centum language,which has a lot of common words with Satem languages - most with South Slavic/Old Church Slavonic,2nd with Albanian,3rd-4th Baltic/Iranian.
A possibility is that Romanians are having most of their language from a population that was in Dacia before Thraco-Dacians came and which was speaking some kind of Italo-Celtic language.
Thraco-Dacians came,they were speaking something closed to Proto-Slavic and this is how Romanian language got lots of words from Slavic.
Roman Empire came and beat Dacians,a part of them run to North Greece (this is what is written in history) but the population from here (Dacia/Romania) continued to speak their language without getting more borrowings from Slavic.
There was a 2nd wave a Slavic speakers that came,around 600AD,but this time they are mixed ,not as blonde and blue eyed as first,since they were allied to some Caucasian people.
Most are passing over the land of Dacia/Romania and settled in Balkans.
Dacians/Romanians are getting allied with Bulgarians and form that empire.
Just a simple theory.
Anyway,if Romanians would do more admixture tests,things would get clearer.
You should know that Serbia was also called Dacia,after Roman Empire conquest,something like "Dacia Ripensis".