Classify and guess his ethnicity

[Azzurro]

Stop trying to worm out of it.

If you know the subject of a guessing game or reverse image search the image and present your conclusion as a guess it's cheating. PERIOD.

alright, I guess it’s some form of cheating, but in terms of classifying him that is my opinion, like I said in my first post gracile, I would think he’s Spanish first.

 

[Azzurro]

Azzurro, you have to realize that the name of the game is figuring out ethnicity relying only on ability to analyze facial features which is more difficult than using knowledge from a textbook or googling the image. If I were to start a thread and post a sudoku puzzle, would it be ok for you to burn right through it and post the answers right away due to already knowing them?

I understand what your saying Davef, look is it ok? Maybe not but just because I said answer doesn’t mean everyone has to use it.

 

[davef]

by observing angela's and azzurro's conversation i reach the conclusion that the statue does indeed belong to an etruscan.

Cool ... I didn't know about that.

lol i get what you're saying

 

[Carlos]

[QUOTE = Angela; 530314] ¿De dónde sacas esto? No hubo una gran migración del norte de África a Europa, excepto en Iberia y Sicilia, e incluso eso no fue enorme. Además, eso fue cientos de años después de que existiera el hombre en el busto. [/ QUOTE]


It is an excellent work of art, I congratulate the artist although he must already be dead because he has been able to capture the soul of the man or client for whom he did the work.

Despite its European appearance, maybe Italian with Celtic, Germanic or whatever, I've seen a Berber sneaky and I dare say that by DNA And, I do not know how it would come, maybe it's an isolated case, maybe not Maybe that bust is not from the place where they found it, there is still so much to discover.

 

[binx]

So now Mike Pence looks like Zinedine Zidane.

Welcome to the wonderful world of anthrotards.

 

[binx]

[QUOTE = Angela; 530314] ¿De dónde sacas esto? No hubo una gran migración del norte de África a Europa, excepto en Iberia y Sicilia, e incluso eso no fue enorme. Además, eso fue cientos de años después de que existiera el hombre en el busto. [/ QUOTE] It is an excellent work of art, I congratulate the artist although he must already be dead because he has been able to capture the soul of the man or client for whom he did the work. Despite its European appearance, maybe Italian with Celtic, Germanic or whatever, I've seen a Berber sneaky and I dare say that by DNA And, I do not know how it would come, maybe it's an isolated case, maybe not Maybe that bust is not from the place where they found it, there is still so much to discover.

Or maybe you're not very good at this. I agree with you that Iberians and North Africans/Berbers can look very similar, but the man in the OP doesn't look Iberian and either North African.

 

[ROS]

Or maybe you're not very good at this. I agree with you that Iberians and North Africans/Berbers can look very similar, but the man in the OP doesn't look Iberian and either North African.

So if the southern half of France is very similar to the Iberian, the French also look like the Berbers that I think are Caucasians.

I'm entering a game that seems absurd to me.

The autosomic genetic distance between the Iberian Peninsula and Morocco / Berber is brutal if you consider that we are separated by 13 km, this is not good or bad is the truth.


On the other hand it would be interesting, after all the steppe theory, if it turns out to be true that R1b has its origin in Green Sahara, it would not be good or bad it would be the truth.

 

[Azzurro]

So now Mike Pence looks like Zinedine Zidane.

Welcome to the wonderful world of anthrotards.

Or maybe Mike Pence doesn’t look like the Etruscan bust

 

[davef]

Let's derail and classify the quality of some of these idiotic and downright hilarious posts we have in this thread

 

[Angela]

So if the southern half of France is very similar to the Iberian, the French also look like the Berbers that I think are Caucasians.

I'm entering a game that seems absurd to me.

The autosomic genetic distance between the Iberian Peninsula and Morocco / Berber is brutal if you consider that we are separated by 13 km, this is not good or bad is the truth.


On the other hand it would be interesting, after all the steppe theory, if it turns out to be true that R1b has its origin in Green Sahara, it would not be good or bad it would be the truth.

Sorry, Ros, this one gets my vote as the comment most removed from reality. You still haven't read all those papers have you?

Also see:

That sample from southwestern France is most similar to the French Basque, who have no North West African. (If my memory serves it is a Gascon sample). That sample is in other ways pretty similar to northern Spanish samples, although perhaps less steppe. None of this is to say that Spaniards have tons of North African, because they don't, but it's there.

Azzurro: Or maybe Mike Pence doesn’t look like the Etruscan bust

There is a great colloquial expression: "When you're in a hole, quit digging." You were too cute and obvious by half, and you got owned. You are convincing no one.

 

[Carlos]

View attachment 9672
Moulay Hafid Elalamy


A great resemblance.
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[ROS]

Sorry, Ros, this one gets my vote as the comment most removed from reality. You still haven't read all those papers have you?

Also see:

That sample from southwestern France is most similar to the French Basque, who have no North West African. (If my memory serves it is a Gascon sample). That sample is in other ways pretty similar to northern Spanish samples, although perhaps less steppe. None of this is to say that Spaniards have tons of North African, because they don't, but it's there.



There is a great colloquial expression: "When you're in a hole, quit digging." You were too cute and obvious by half, and you got owned. You are convincing no one.

ATP3 ---> M269 and 0% steppe.

The autosomal African North component of the Iberians is minimal and of course it can not be said that Iberos overlap with Berbers, because it is not true and it is true that the Iberians and the southern half of France and sometimes Northern Italy are grouped into many calculators, too we can observe in them the fundamental genetic proximity of these three populations, of which the Basque and Aquitanians are more deviant. And on the other hand I have never seen grouped Iberos with Marroquies for example.

I hope some of you are not recreating a black legend of the genetic history of the Iberians. I do not say it for you @Angela, I say it in general.

 

[davef]

I just find it amazing how close he is to Mike Pence in terms of looks and I'm sure Pence himself would be amazed after seeing it. I'm sure most people who have seen Mike Pence often enough would spot the similarity as well.

Suppose someone were to spot a burglar resembling that bust, would we really expect that person to say to the police "yes, he's about 6'1, Moroccan or maybe some sort of Mediterranean, he looks very Greek like the people who attend the local Greek Orthodox Church"?

 

[MOESAN]

Amateur try to guess :
Europoid ! (I wait for a short standing ovation)-
Doesn’t remember me of a well defined phenotype of old anthropology -
As ridicule doesn’t kill (not immediately) I ‘ll risk this bet :
some mix of Antiquity where dominates rather Central or Eastern HG’s input allied to North-Mediter (‘Caucasus-Caspian', 'westasian’ in a sense but old dolicho type, not modern Georgians) people (so here we have a possible Steppic input) with other accretions i’m not able to determine seriously, perhaps some other more gracile ‘mediter’ ; as a whole, in ancient time, a lot of Indo-Europeans from the Steppes settled and slightly crossed with Late Neolithical dolicho pops of Balkans (because there were already some slightly brachycephallic ones, I think, withtout visible traces in him) could have produced this kind of individual type : nobility of Greeks, Latins, others… ? His rather small skull compared to face seems excluding far North-West European pop by origin (but I lack true lateral view).

Concerning modern pops, this man could be German, Austrian, Central-North Italian, even Flemish, Valencia Spanyard… long list indeed ! Maybe based on the nose size I would give my preference to an Italian or some eastern Serbian than to a Southern German or to an Austrian, but without any certitude because we speak here of ONE INDIVIDUAL. Not evident concerning one person without pigmentation; some other persons without knowledge concerning states but more « instinct » can make very better guesses. Sure, I would have enjoyed a true lateral view/profile of him.
&: I've no clue concerning Etruscans
&&: aside: it seems the Mesopotamians civilisation saw changes in population; one of the Sumerian periods would have seen a pop with specific denture with remote East-Asian heritages, according to someones. I 'll try to find my sources, but this is apart.

 

[Angela]

ATP3 ---> M269 and 0% steppe.

The autosomal African North component of the Iberians is minimal and of course it can not be said that Iberos overlap with Berbers, because it is not true and it is true that the Iberians and the southern half of France and sometimes Northern Italy are grouped into many calculators, too we can observe in them the fundamental genetic proximity of these three populations, of which the Basque and Aquitanians are more deviant. And on the other hand I have never seen grouped Iberos with Marroquies for example.

I hope some of you are not recreating a black legend of the genetic history of the Iberians. I do not say it for you @Angela, I say it in general.

Of course not, Ros. I think I've proved over the years my opinion of the kind of racialist thinking that unfortunately is the dark underbelly of amateur population genetics. Not only do I think it's morally reprehensible, I think it's intellectually bankrupt.

However, these graphics portray valid data. To deny this input would also be morally bankrupt.

The issue for me is why is it a bad thing? Would it be equally bad if an IBD analysis was done for Siberian ancestry? Would that say something terrible about Finns and other northeast Europeans?

As for Spaniards particularly, I spent a summer semester during university in Barcelona. It was one of the best experiences of my life, and I only have positive feelings for Spain and Spaniards. I would never be party to any attempt to denigrate it or them.

I just believe in being as strenuously objective in following the data as I possibly can be.

 

[ΠΑΝΑΞ]

Etruscan is the style of the artifact, its tradition of ; the material and the purpose or the use of it, not nescessary the represented individual. Actually 100BCE it was the key for me from the beggining. My approach wasn;t about art - it looks turned to be true that we can dig a lot from it-, but from anthropology,-amateur- perspective.
I think is a nice sample of what possibly could say Italo-celtic stock -as mentioned to my other posts- and not the representative Etruscan of 700-400 BCE (Aegean like) and that is the clue about it

 

[Carlos]

I hardly knew much about the Etruscans, I began to investigate and was surprised to see that many historians give the Etruscans a Berber origin, My subconscious saw in the bust Africa, North Africa, and as my professor told me. screenplay that was a very cultured Belgian: Your subconscious is able to cross everything.

l o l

 

[Angela]

I hardly knew much about the Etruscans, I began to investigate and was surprised to see that many historians give the Etruscans a Berber origin, My subconscious saw in the bust Africa, North Africa, and as my professor told me. screenplay that was a very cultured Belgian: Your subconscious is able to cross everything.

l o l

You still don't know anything. No, many historians don't say any such thing. This exists only in the fevered brain of Nordicist/racists from the underbelly of amateur population genetics, including Spanish ones. We've had enough of those morons on this site. Stop posting material from ******, or there will be consequences. Am I clear?

Let me be clear to everyone. I'm through with warnings. From now on, if you cheat or post ***** material you're just going to get infractions.

North Africa is mentioned NOWHERE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization

If you want to know about the Etruscans, read material from respected historians and archaeologists.
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Etruscan_World.html?id=2Ofa_0Y5Iu8C

It's 1200 pages: that should keep you busy for a while.

 

[MOESAN]

Sure, our planet is warming up (or heating up?)...
Let's keep cool and drink the same way; it's a game; if some ones have funny thoughts, it 'll not kill anybody. Do enjoy the game and nothing else. Our future is not in balance, I think. Good night and merry Sunday.
And who knows the "Etruscans" making in details to date? And the real ethnic origin of people whose we find the statues in some cultural environments?

 

[AdeoF]

I was going to try and guess what that guy was in the pic but i guess its done now. Damm this place got a bit crazy we do need to chill like what the Celtic man said. Yeah let's look at Etruscans!!