Questions on my Y-DNA Haplogroup T

[torzio]

@salento

Do you match with a Patrick Walsh ?................if so you should also match with

Henry Benningfield ....

Henry E Benningfield was born in 1760, in Richmond District, Wise, Virginia, United States, his father, Thomas Benningfield, was 21 and his mother, Desi Hicks, was 19.

 

[torzio]

@ salento

Another ..............a distant one from me......what about for yourself

Anders Hestenes b.ca 1500 Gloppen Sfj Norway


..............................................there is also a mispelled surname Armland ...............it should be Armund from Czechia ......related to the old German Beer Family

 

[torzio]

The fundora name appears to have been around since the 1700s (at least) from another site I have seen. Sometime later I might look to see what I find out. Fundora is an interesting surname. Unusual for hispanics. Kind of like my ancestors paternal surname and my Y dna match

yes ..Spanish in origin

 

[torzio]

No I am talking about the OP. His intial posts says that at the bottom

you mean this connection?

Fundora San Antonio de Río Blanco del Norte, La Habana, Cuba

 

[torzio]

@ salento
Another ..............a distant one from me......what about for yourself
Anders Hestenes b.ca 1500 Gloppen Sfj Norway
..............................................there is also a mispelled surname Armland ...............it should be Armund from Czechia ......related to the old German Beer Family

Armland could be Armeland from Denmark

 

[Wanderer]

you mean this connection?

Fundora San Antonio de Río Blanco del Norte, La Habana, Cuba

Yes. His surname may not be spanish. Could be portuguese. But I am not familiar with portuguese names.

 

[Wanderer]

You may want to explore some mexico and venezuelan records also. There might be a relation since its a rare surname

 

[Huracan]

You may want to explore some mexico and venezuelan records also. There might be a relation since its a rare surname

Hello I am the OP (surname Fundora), I've encountered Venezuelan records on FamilySearch. I can look up these as well, thanks for the suggestion.

As for your previous messages, yes I previously suspected a Portuguese origin of my surname, at most Galician due to historical connections. Some distant DNA relatives and their connections state the surname's origin from northern Spain (Asturias). I continue to research this extensively.

 

[Huracan]

..................................
adam son of
Johann Adam Kohout, 1755 - 1818 born in Meclov, Czechia and married to Barbara Dittrich born on May 26 1756, in Tannawa
......................................
Johann father was
Johann Andreas Kohout, 1717 - 1781 born in Ohnišťovice, Czechia....and married to Anna Richter on April 24 1742, Anna born in 1715
.........................................
Johann Andrea father was
Bartholomäus Kohout and Anna Maria Neumann
Bartholomäus was born on July 13 1683, in Ohnistovice,
Anna Maria born on May 2 1691, in Wilkenau, Bischofteinitz, Böhmen, Áustria

Where did you find this information? I tried searching but came up with nothing.

 

[torzio]

Where did you find this information? I tried searching but came up with nothing.

you need to do the 3 hour google search course .................work sent me 10 years ago ( when I was working )

anyway

http://www.slajs.co.uk/TMG_EP/surname_index.htm

 

[Salento]

@salento

Do you match with a Patrick Walsh ?................if so you should also match with

Henry Benningfield ....

Henry E Benningfield was born in 1760, in Richmond District, Wise, Virginia, United States, his father, Thomas Benningfield, was 21 and his mother, Desi Hicks, was 19.

@Torzio, I don’t know if I match P. Walsh, … I have limited access to the site.

 

[torzio]

@ Salento
my snp has changed again in ftdna


from the T project ( ftdna)

Y79536 was previously an equivalent to SK1480 . Bernard Kohout is SK1480+ but Y79536- so the SNPs are no longer equivalent.

Can you see your snp for Y79536 ?

 

[torzio]

First names: Edward Franciszek
Surname: Prokowski
Place of birth: CHOCIWEL
Date of birth: 30-05-1955
Father's name: Mieczysław .....................20/5/1925- 19/1/1962
Mother's name: Genowefa

from Stettin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stettin_(region)


Prokowski is a rare name, as of 1990 there were only 30 Poles by this name. That is often a handicap, but in this case it might work to your advantage -- of those 30, 28 live in the province of Szczecin (the other 2 in Jelenia Gora). ....Szczecin=Stettin

Ancestor of above = Seppel Prokowski .....married a Poser from https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani/POSER

1 am not a match anymore with the above ..........

Assumed shared SNPs (31)

CTS10137/Z43775, M11810, PF1346, PF476, Y349954, Y349960, Y349970, Y349971, Y349976, Z19943, CTS8489, Y264433, Y349949, Y349950, Y349951, Y349952, Y349953, Y349955, Y349969, Y349977, Z19949, Z19951, FGC3448, FT184767, Z19912, Z26593, Y325131, BY37593/Y135237, M8325, PF574, PF588

so I am on my own ATM under the new snp Y79536

 

[Huracan]

so I am on my own ATM under the new snp Y79536

To my understanding, you cannot be the only one in a new branch. A minimum of 2 people must share the rare/previously-private SNP to have it become a new branch. Looking at the FTDNA BigY block tree I see another person that is also Y79536+ but they have unknown origin. Perhaps it is one of the Sioen/Sion lines you mentioned before that are SK1480+? The SK1480+ from the France_93_Montreuli FTDNA project shows as Y79536+ and do not report their country of origin.

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[torzio]

To my understanding, you cannot be the only one in a new branch. A minimum of 2 people must share the rare/previously-private SNP to have it become a new branch. Looking at the FTDNA BigY block tree I see another person that is also Y79536+ but they have unknown origin. Perhaps it is one of the Sioen/Sion lines you mentioned before that are SK1480+? The SK1480+ from the France_93_Montreuli FTDNA project shows as Y79536+ and do not report their country of origin.

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from my understanding..................you cannot be created from scratch as being the only one in a new branch................but once established, you can end up being the only one in a new branch..................maybe you are correct as I still sit in a group of 4.

I cannot open your attachments

Sion is not in my group ( i cannot see his marker anymore in any site except the one you mentioned )..........thanks for info

I have an italian
A pole ...who I chat with regularly and his tree states Dutch origin , Hansetic league

A czechia ................who is in USA, ..............he is new

and one new in Yfull ...........from old Stettin Poland of German origin ( Bavaria more so than Hesse )

others in Yfull ..........is italian from Trentino

others you know about......belgiums, germans, english and irish

 

[torzio]

more on Sion/Sioen

I found many Sion in Trieste Italy ...ie

Name Santa Wagnest (born Sion)
Birth Feb 20 1922
Trieste, Italia
Marriage Marriage to: Ubaldo, Giuseppe, Ernesto Wagnest
Mar 10 1940
Trieste, Italia


and Sioen ....I found mostly in Belgium

Also Sion in Marche and Campania regions in Italy

 

[torzio]

The T-SK1480 person with surname Sion is part of the french project

Sion appears in small numbers in Lorraine France and Belgium ................the majority of Sion is in Italy ....eg another example

Catarina Lisi (born Sion )Birth1789 - Pietravairano, Caserta, Campania, Italy

DeathSep 29 1867 - Pietravairano, Caserta, Campania, Italy

Parents - Serafino Sion, Maria Sion (born Massarotti in Ravenna)

Husband- Eraclio Lisi


The surname Sioen is not seen in Italy and seen only in the low countries (walloon etc )

 

[Huracan]

...but once established, you can end up being the only one in a new branch...

Yes as is the case for me in my YFull designation of T-FTA50528 when I was grouped with the Dutch tester from Nebula Genomics whose kit then disappeared and left me as the single FTA50528+.

 

[torzio]

Yes as is the case for me in my YFull designation of T-FTA50528 when I was grouped with the Dutch tester from Nebula Genomics whose kit then disappeared and left me as the single FTA50528+.

we see each other in Yfull .............I am also now on my own

 

[Trubo]

Hello. I got T-L446 (BY63685) and I come from the Balkans. Is there anyone from the same group I could talk to?