Ancient DNA, admx. history and endogamy in the prehistoricAegean Skourtaniotietal2022

Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
There are literally Bronze Age samples from Sicily, are you actually denying that they exist?
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Sicily is different from Southern Italy, or do you not know geography too?

Deny their existence? Obviously not, since I processed those samples into raw data myself.
 
Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
qpAdm also does not prefer Steppe when you use qpAdm wrongly like they did. An example of a stupid qpAdm model below.

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qpAdm is often used wrongly in many papers like this.
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You can produce all the stupidities you want, but it will not be published in a paper along with any reputable person backing it it. What is your point? Wait, I think i know it, it is to try to prove that you're somehow a never ending well of knowledge that somehow knows better than people who actually know what their doing. What a waste of time you are.
 
Jovialis said:
Sicily is different from Southern Italy, or do you not know geography too?

Deny their existence? Obviously not, since I processed those samples into raw data myself.
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It is still a good comparison of the excess Levant N in South Italy since we have other ancient Italian samples in Italy.
 
Jovialis said:
You can produce all the stupidities you want, but it will not be published in a paper along with any reputable person backing it it. What is your point? Wait, I think i know it, it is to try to prove that you're somehow a never ending well of knowledge that somehow knows better than people who actually know what their doing. What a waste of time you are.
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A lot of "scientific" papers pass peer review while being completely outdated and stupid. Just because its a paper it does not make it real.
 
Jovialis said:
Sarno et al. 2022 modeling:

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Where is the Levant_N? Why didn't they choose to model it as such? Maybe because it wasn't as accurate? You people are simply pathetic.
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Why did my model not choose Levant_N? Why did it also prefer 20% WHG and no Steppe? It must be real because its qpAdm, am i right?
 
Angela said:
Instead, the signature somehow disappeared and then Anatolians moved to Greece and re-created it. Yes, there's the Marathon sample, who is a bit more "eastern", but we're talking shades of difference
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We don't even know if Marathon is Greek-admixed but let's suppose it is ,it doesn't seem just a bit different.

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Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
A lot of "scientific" papers pass peer review while being completely outdated and stupid. Just because its a paper it does not make it real.
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What makes it real? Because you say so? Why should I care about what you say?
 
Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
Show me a qpAdm model from the paper that uses Levant N but gets 0% of it or even minus.
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Doesn't exist, because nobody in academia would produce a garbage model that has such overlap Levant_N (Anatolia_N + Natufian).

Edit: Well except the Lazaridis et al. 2022 paper, but that model in my opinion was ill conceived. So there, I'm not always lock-step with what academic says.
 
Jovialis said:
Doesn't exist, because nobody in academia would produce a garbage model that has such overlap Levant_N (Anatolia_N + Natufian).
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You can simply check for Natufian, if they score 10% Natufian that means 20% Levant_N. Also if an Academic has a hard time making qpAdm to distinguish Anatolia_N from Levant_N then obviously he doesn't know how to use qpAdm.
 
Jovialis said:
Doesn't exist, because nobody in academia would produce a garbage model that has such overlap Levant_N (Anatolia_N + Natufian).
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They used these outgroups: (Ust_Ishim, Kostenki14, MA1, GoyetQ116-1, ElMiron, Vestonice, Villabruna, EHG, Levant_N, Natufian, Mota)

They did not even use Anatolian Hunter Gatherer as an outgroup to help qpAdm to tell apart Anatolia_N from Levant_N. :facepalm: No wonder they cant model them with Levant_N.
 
Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
You can simply check for Natufian, if they score 10% Natufian that means 20% Levant_N. Also if an Academic has a hard time making qpAdm to distinguish Anatolia_N from Levant_N then obviously he doesn't know how to use qpAdm.
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Natufian, within and of itself is also (at least according to the pre-print) mostly Anatolia_N-like, in addition to Iberomaurusian-like.
 
Jovialis said:
Natufian, within and of itself is also (at least according to the pre-print) mostly Anatolia_N-like, in addition to Iberomaurusian-like.
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ANF has 95+% Dzudzuana admix while Natufian has 88% Dzudzuana and 12% Ancestral North African. They can easily be told apart on qpAdm. They also had thousands of years of separation and drift.
 
Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
ANF has 95+% Dzudzuana admix while Natufian has 88% Dzudzuana and 12% Ancestral North African. They can easily be told apart on qpAdm. They also had thousands of years of separation and drift.
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nice maybe the source of E ( e1b1b1) among them :unsure:
 
Idontknowwhatimdoing said:
ANF has 95+% Dzudzuana admix while Natufian has 88% Dzudzuana and 12% Ancestral North African. They can easily be told apart on qpAdm. They also had thousands of years of separation and drift.
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Sources please, otherwise this is just unfounded conjecture.
 
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