True, that is why its interesting to investigate Clans, some of them could preserve the original DNA as they where ruling Class and could be less mixed with others. Also, its more likely that we find unbroken DNA line.
Not sure about Iranian heritage though, I cant see any evidence of that...
Seems that G2 is dominant but as You said, there are also less significant lineages. We have indications that Iazyges could have haplo I2a2a (M223) dinaric. Dont know the Roxolani or Aorsi DNA. It seems that the DNA of different Sarmatian tribes differ. We should in time know more when more...
I write what i hear from people that are researching Sarmatian origin. I think its to early for publication but I know that one is on the way.
Yes, I will soon try to present some more interesting information and if its possible also add DNA to it. Sarmatian dragon was adopted by Bosporan...
It is necessary to be sceptical but we are on the way to determine DNA of some of Sarmatian tribes. Few years ago, Srmatian symbols liked to Polish Clans where considered as a legend or romantic stories but not now. It is now common knowledge that some Clans (part of it) origin from Saramtian...
Everything is possible, also roman mercenaries with haplo R1a as we know that Sarmatian joined roman legions. See Roxolani, Yazygz and the cataphracts.
There is no fake in the Ostoja DNA projet but we have doubts about some of memebrs like the one with N1c - its possible that the DNA line is...
When looking at the DNA results of Ostoja clan members, some of them can not be considered in the research of Sarmatian origin. So far we have following:
4 persons showing M458-L260 (R1a)
3 persons showing I2a2
2 persons showing R-M269 (R1b)
1 person showing R-U106 (R1b)
This is composition of...
Alan,
You are right on Z93 but we still have to little samples to determine. Also, we talk about 2 different tribes that where called Alans and there could be more than 2 tribes. I still cant proof my Alan origin but Im pretty sure that we will soon be able to establish that since every year...
Furtheremore, counting Clan population past 1000 years we can ruffly count on 40 families in Ostoja that developed slightly over 150 ancient lines and of them 60 are extinct so in Ostoja we are talking about max. 1000 members - that is only 25 times more Clan members in 1000 year or ab. 40...
Lebrok,
Yeah, its like in six degree of separation :) But here I think study You presented have nothing to do with the Clans and I believe that it is based on too little and to old samples, I personally doubt those conclusions, for me its more like indication. If You look at the DNA of several...
Hello Lebrok and thank You!
Well...Ostoja is clearly Sarmatian Tamga with Sarmatian Draco so naturally, we want to know the Y DNA of this Sarmatian Clan. The results so far are presented as mentioned on FTDNA, the Ostoja Clan DNA project. Based on the results, we try to match it with existing...
Hello,
I see interesting discussion here about Sarmatian origin and DNA. I will try to add my knowledge in this subject although I can not present any final conclusions of my own since its to early for that. However, You might find this interesting.
Ostoja is old Polish CoA and it evolved from...
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