Really Surprising Eurogenes K13 Admixture Results

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Hello!

I am currently trying to figure out my heritage, as I am an adoptee and don't really know anything concerning where my biological family comes from. Using the Eurogenes Admixture calculator on GEDMatch makes matters even more confusing for me, and I am currently not sure what to make of these results! It's displaying Asian populations and has me wondering if I am actually of part-Asian descent or if I should simply be using a different admixture calculator. After all, the distance is above 4. Please let me know what you think. :)

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

1 94.9% Southwest_English + 5.1% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.04

2 94.1% Southwest_English + 5.9% Bangladeshi @ 4.14

3 94.8% Southwest_English + 5.2% Chenchu @ 4.16

4 94.9% Southwest_English + 5.1% Dusadh @ 4.22

5 94.9% Southwest_English + 5.1% Velamas @ 4.23

6 94.9% Southwest_English + 5.1% Kurumba @ 4.23

7 95.2% Southwest_English + 4.8% Sakilli @ 4.25

8 95.1% Southwest_English + 4.9% Piramalai @ 4.26

9 94.8% Southwest_English + 5.2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.28

10 94.9% Southwest_English + 5.1% Kol @ 4.3

11 94.7% Southwest_English + 5.3% Dharkar @ 4.32

12 95.2% Southwest_English + 4.8% Chamar @ 4.32

13 76.4% West_Scottish + 23.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.33

14 94.9% Southwest_English + 5.1% Kanjar @ 4.37

15 94.2% Southwest_English + 5.8% Sindhi @ 4.37

16 95.1% Southwest_English + 4.9% North_Kannadi @ 4.38

17 94.4% Southwest_English + 5.6% Kshatriya @ 4.38

18 74.6% West_Scottish + 25.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.39

19 94.5% Southwest_English + 5.5% Gujarati @ 4.4

20 94.1% Southwest_English + 5.9% Brahmin_UP @ 4.4

For comparison, here's the results of another calculator (Dodecad K12b):

1 86.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 13.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.43

2 87.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.44

3 87.2% Irish (Dodecad) + 12.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.48

4 87.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 12.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.51

5 87.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.7% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.55

6 86.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 13.3% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.55

7 87.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 12.8% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.56

8 87.5% Irish (Dodecad) + 12.5% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.6

9 87% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 13% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.65

10 88.6% Irish (Dodecad) + 11.4% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 2.69

11 88.3% Irish (Dodecad) + 11.7% Yemenese (Behar) @ 2.71

12 88.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 11.4% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.73

13 88.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 2.73

14 88.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.6% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 2.74

15 86.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 13.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.74

16 89.5% British (Dodecad) + 10.5% Yemenese (Behar) @ 2.79

17 87.2% Irish (Dodecad) + 12.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.79

18 89.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 10.7% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 2.8

19 88.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 11.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 2.81

20 88.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.8% Yemenese (Behar) @ 2.83

And here's MDLP K23b, since a lot of people have told me it's a good all-around admixture calculator:

1 86.2% Orcadian ( ) + 13.8% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.2

2 85.6% Orcadian ( ) + 14.4% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.23

3 84% Orcadian ( ) + 16% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.24

4 86.3% Orcadian ( ) + 13.7% Chechen ( ) @ 2.29

5 84.6% Orcadian ( ) + 15.4% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 2.3

6 88.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 11.6% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.31

7 90.1% Icelandic ( ) + 9.9% Armenian ( ) @ 2.32

8 83.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 16.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 2.33

9 87.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 12.1% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.33

10 85.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 14.6% Turk ( ) @ 2.35

11 90.3% Icelandic ( ) + 9.7% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.36

12 84.4% Orcadian ( ) + 15.6% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.36

13 86.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 13.3% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 2.36

14 88.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 11.5% Chechen ( ) @ 2.37

15 91.5% Icelandic ( ) + 8.5% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.37

16 87.8% Norwegian_West ( ) + 12.2% Kurd ( ) @ 2.38

17 88% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 12% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 2.39

18 83.1% Orcadian ( ) + 16.9% Azeri ( ) @ 2.39

19 89.2% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.8% Balkar ( ) @ 2.39

20 82.8% Orcadian ( ) + 17.2% Turk ( ) @ 2.39

I could be wrong, but I think that I can reasonably conclude that I am of Northern European and Asian descent, but I don't know which Asian, as all calculators return different Asian populations. Which one is most applicable to me? Thanks!

10-06-19, 01:48
td120

IMHO you should have a closer look at your genetic matches first (not on Gedmatch). What company did you use for testing?
I would look for the ones without mixed heritage(usually most of non-American testees) and your common matches. Family names will be quite telling.
Look for "4th cousins-distant cousins" (10cM-->0.13-0.14% and around) first. Then move to closer or more distant ones(non-Americans) and check whether they fall in a specific geographical region.

here some charts with cM/relationship averages:
https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/wp...ugust_2017.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/thednageek.com/wp-...68%2C617&ssl=1

It also could be Middle Eastern. My MDLP K23b for 88% NW European, 11.5% Sicilian, and 0.5% Native American is as follows:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Belgian ( ) 2.87

2 English ( ) 2.97

3 Frisian ( ) 3.42

4 Irish ( ) 3.52

5 Dutch ( ) 4.1

6 North_European ( ) 4.61

7 South_German ( ) 5.53

8 Norwegian_East ( ) 5.57

9 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 5.64

10 North_German ( ) 5.84

11 Dane ( ) 6.24

12 Swede ( ) 6.38

13 German-Volga ( ) 6.45

14 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 6.46

15 CEU ( ) 6.93

16 Welsh ( ) 7.47

17 British ( ) 7.64

18 Norwegian_West ( ) 8.27

19 Icelandic ( ) 9.31

20 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 9.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

1 78.3% Dutch ( ) + 21.7% Portugese ( ) @ 1.04

2 96.3% Frisian ( ) + 3.7% Mozabite ( ) @ 1.23

3 93.1% Frisian ( ) + 6.9% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 1.29

4 95.2% Frisian ( ) + 4.8% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 1.33

5 93.5% Frisian ( ) + 6.5% Algerian ( ) @ 1.42

6 95.6% Frisian ( ) + 4.4% Saharawi ( ) @ 1.45

7 84.3% Dutch ( ) + 15.7% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 1.46

8 94.6% Frisian ( ) + 5.4% Morocco_South ( ) @ 1.5

9 93.3% Frisian ( ) + 6.7% Tunisian ( ) @ 1.54

10 84.6% Dutch ( ) + 15.4% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 1.55

11 84.4% Dutch ( ) + 15.6% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 1.56

12 94.4% Frisian ( ) + 5.6% Moroccan ( ) @ 1.57

13 83.3% Dutch ( ) + 16.7% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) @ 1.6

14 82.5% Dutch ( ) + 17.5% Spaniard ( ) @ 1.65

15 83.7% Dutch ( ) + 16.3% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) @ 1.65

16 85.7% Dutch ( ) + 14.3% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 1.65

17 88.3% North_European ( ) + 11.7% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 1.66

18 95.1% North_European ( ) + 4.9% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 1.68

19 84.1% Dutch ( ) + 15.9% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) @ 1.71

20 91.3% English ( ) + 8.7% Maltese ( ) @ 1.71

(I chose the K23b because it gives me interesting matches like yours)

14-06-19, 13:18
New Englander

No....it just means that you are slightly more southern than the average NWE.

Also, without the Geographic breakdown it is impossible to tell with just Population approximations.

#	Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1	94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Austroasiatic_Ho	@	4.04
2	94.1%	Southwest_English	+	5.9%	Bangladeshi	@	4.14
3	94.8%	Southwest_English	+	5.2%	Chenchu	@	4.16
4	94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Dusadh	@	4.22
5	94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Velamas	@	4.23
6	94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Kurumba	@	4.23
7	95.2%	Southwest_English	+	4.8%	Sakilli	@	4.25
8	95.1%	Southwest_English	+	4.9%	Piramalai	@	4.26
9	94.8%	Southwest_English	+	5.2%	Uttar_Pradesh	@	4.28
10	94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Kol	@	4.3
11	94.7%	Southwest_English	+	5.3%	Dharkar	@	4.32
12	95.2%	Southwest_English	+	4.8%	Chamar	@	4.32
13	76.4%	West_Scottish	+	23.6%	Spanish_Extremadura	@	4.33
14	94.9%	Southwest_English	+	5.1%	Kanjar	@	4.37
15	94.2%	Southwest_English	+	5.8%	Sindhi	@	4.37
16	95.1%	Southwest_English	+	4.9%	North_Kannadi	@	4.38
17	94.4%	Southwest_English	+	5.6%	Kshatriya	@	4.38
18	74.6%	West_Scottish	+	25.4%	Spanish_Galicia	@	4.39
19	94.5%	Southwest_English	+	5.5%	Gujarati	@	4.4
20	94.1%	Southwest_English	+	5.9%	Brahmin_UP	@	4.4

1	86.9%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	13.1%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.43
2	87.5%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	12.5%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.44
3	87.2%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.8%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.48
4	87.8%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.2%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.51
5	87.3%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	12.7%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.55
6	86.7%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	+	13.3%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.55
7	87.2%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	+	12.8%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.56
8	87.5%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.5%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.6
9	87%	Orkney (1000Genomes)	+	13%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.65
10	88.6%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	11.4%	Bedouin (HGDP)	@	2.69
11	88.3%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	11.7%	Yemenese (Behar)	@	2.71
12	88.6%	Argyll (1000Genomes)	+	11.4%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	2.73
13	88.6%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	11.4%	Samaritians (Behar)	@	2.73
14	88.4%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	11.6%	Bedouin (HGDP)	@	2.74
15	86.9%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	13.1%	Lebanese (Behar)	@	2.74
16	89.5%	British (Dodecad)	+	10.5%	Yemenese (Behar)	@	2.79
17	87.2%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	12.8%	Lebanese (Behar)	@	2.79
18	89.3%	Argyll (1000Genomes)	+	10.7%	Bedouin (HGDP)	@	2.8
19	88.9%	Irish (Dodecad)	+	11.1%	Samaritians (Behar)	@	2.81
20	88.2%	Orcadian (HGDP)	+	11.8%	Yemenese (Behar)	@	2.83

1	86.2%	Orcadian ( )	+	13.8%	Kabardin ( )	@	2.2
2	85.6%	Orcadian ( )	+	14.4%	Kumyk ( )	@	2.23
3	84%	Orcadian ( )	+	16%	Uzbek_Tashkent ( )	@	2.24
4	86.3%	Orcadian ( )	+	13.7%	Chechen ( )	@	2.29
5	84.6%	Orcadian ( )	+	15.4%	Baku_WGA ( )	@	2.3
6	88.4%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	11.6%	Kabardin ( )	@	2.31
7	90.1%	Icelandic ( )	+	9.9%	Armenian ( )	@	2.32
8	83.5%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	16.5%	Turk_Aydin ( )	@	2.33
9	87.9%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	12.1%	Kumyk ( )	@	2.33
10	85.4%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	14.6%	Turk ( )	@	2.35
11	90.3%	Icelandic ( )	+	9.7%	Armenian_Yerevan ( )	@	2.36
12	84.4%	Orcadian ( )	+	15.6%	Uzbekistani_Jew ( )	@	2.36
13	86.7%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	13.3%	Georgian_Jew ( )	@	2.36
14	88.5%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	11.5%	Chechen ( )	@	2.37
15	91.5%	Icelandic ( )	+	8.5%	Kakheti ( )	@	2.37
16	87.8%	Norwegian_West ( )	+	12.2%	Kurd ( )	@	2.38
17	88%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	12%	Jew_Tat ( )	@	2.39
18	83.1%	Orcadian ( )	+	16.9%	Azeri ( )	@	2.39
19	89.2%	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	+	10.8%	Balkar ( )	@	2.39
20	82.8%	Orcadian ( )	+	17.2%	Turk ( )	@	2.39

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Belgian ( )	2.87
2	English ( )	2.97
3	Frisian ( )	3.42
4	Irish ( )	3.52
5	Dutch ( )	4.1
6	North_European ( )	4.61
7	South_German ( )	5.53
8	Norwegian_East ( )	5.57
9	English_Kent_GBR ( )	5.64
10	North_German ( )	5.84
11	Dane ( )	6.24
12	Swede ( )	6.38
13	German-Volga ( )	6.45
14	English_Cornwall_GBR ( )	6.46
15	CEU ( )	6.93
16	Welsh ( )	7.47
17	British ( )	7.64
18	Norwegian_West ( )	8.27
19	Icelandic ( )	9.31
20	Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( )	9.8