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I don't see any Mycenaen ...I seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
The excess of WHG ancestry, tentatively suggesting a local origin, is somewhat blurred by
the genetic similarity of the two most probable sources - Illyrians (Croatia EIA) and an
autochthonous one (Roman Republicans),
mine
Distance to: Torziok12b
6.35208627 ORD009
9.71087020 ORD001
10.56674974 ORD006
11.22739507 ORD011
11.39269064 ORD014
13.46047919 ORD004
13.50595424 SGR002
15.86672304 SGR003
16.10610133 ORD019
16.29384853 SAL001
18.02197825 SAL003
18.10717813 SAL010
21.11889675 SAL007
26.06286822 ORD010
28.30225963 SGR001
31.42726841 SAL011
Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 2.8248% / 2.82479582
39.9 SAL010
25.6 ORD001
14.7 ORD010
14.2 SGR001
5.6 SAL011
my father
Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
6.70359605 ORD009
8.32106964 ORD001
9.42989926 ORD006
10.37874752 ORD014
10.70774486 ORD011
12.10385063 SGR002
12.87056720 ORD004
14.75956978 SAL001
16.73936379 SGR003
16.99712623 SAL010
17.07900758 ORD019
18.68993579 SAL003
21.39803262 SAL007
26.92934273 ORD010
30.03113218 SGR001
31.65361275 SAL011
Target: Ponsan_K12b
Distance: 1.6155% / 1.61551414
42.2 SAL010
30.2 ORD001
21.4 ORD010
3.1 SAL011
3.1 SGR001
my first cousin .....my paternal grandfather sister line
Distance to: TrentinoCles
4.68476253 ORD009
6.57054031 ORD011
8.09754284 ORD006
11.02039473 ORD019
11.12120497 ORD014
11.34432016 ORD001
11.65248042 SGR003
11.91330769 ORD004
12.11949256 SAL003
15.06649926 SGR002
18.47765948 SAL001
20.29307764 SAL007
21.31089158 SAL010
22.91864088 ORD010
25.39853736 SGR001
32.52537778 SAL011
Target: TrentinoCles
Distance: 0.9584% / 0.95838510
27.1 SAL010
15.5 ORD001
15.4 SAL003
14.3 ORD010
13.9 ORD019
9.5 ORD011
4.3 SGR001
my son
Distance to: ScallywagK12b
6.16721169 ORD009
8.92699838 ORD001
9.79009193 ORD006
10.59346497 ORD011
10.78894341 ORD014
12.92060757 SGR002
12.93893350 ORD004
15.70727857 SAL001
15.98927140 SGR003
16.11018312 ORD019
17.71374043 SAL010
17.90921550 SAL003
21.21126352 SAL007
26.19601115 ORD010
28.83868582 SGR001
31.66640965 SAL011
Target: ScallywagK12b
Distance: 1.9471% / 1.94711256
46.7 SAL010
23.1 ORD010
20.5 ORD001
7.9 SGR001
1.8 SAL011
Distance to: ScallywagK12b
2.68221984 40.20% ORD010 + 59.80% SAL010
4.17128280 36.60% ORD001 + 63.40% ORD009
4.32988370 72.60% ORD001 + 27.40% SAL007
4.74574404 80.60% ORD001 + 19.40% SAL011
4.75010005 81.20% ORD009 + 18.80% SAL010
5.53029110 62.60% ORD001 + 37.40% ORD004
5.53895340 84.40% ORD009 + 15.60% SAL001
5.68412291 53.60% ORD001 + 46.40% ORD006
5.72143667 57.20% ORD001 + 42.80% ORD014
5.91108869 56.80% ORD001 + 43.20% ORD011
5.93611589 87.20% ORD009 + 12.80% SGR002
5.97599032 85.40% ORD009 + 14.60% ORD014
6.01034894 10.80% ORD004 + 89.20% ORD009
6.03430665 63.40% ORD001 + 36.60% SGR002
6.19937010 63.00% SAL010 + 37.00% SGR001
6.29263387 69.80% ORD001 + 30.20% SGR003
6.54159638 28.40% SGR001 + 71.60% SGR002
6.77747827 71.60% ORD001 + 28.40% ORD019
6.82643394 35.80% ORD010 + 64.20% SAL001
6.92870429 74.40% ORD001 + 25.60% SAL010
7.24788630 66.80% SAL001 + 33.20% SGR001
7.30991548 76.20% ORD001 + 23.80% SAL003
7.36018143 73.40% ORD001 + 26.60% SAL001
7.64975273 29.40% ORD010 + 70.60% SGR002
7.85769343 22.80% ORD010 + 77.20% ORD014
Mine: There seems to be a lot of diversity in them.
Distance to: Angela 5.50442549 SGR003 7.36377621 ORD009 8.12565074 ORD011 8.76072486 SAL003 10.57615242 ORD006 10.62336576 ORD019 13.79169315 ORD014 14.71112164 ORD004 15.53606771 SAL007 17.38914029 SGR002 18.57492396 ORD001 21.72402587 ORD010 21.96395911 SAL001 23.93889931 SGR001 25.43408540 SAL010 28.23543873 SAL011
Distance to: SGR003 5.88563505 TSI30 6.60164373 Tuscan 8.63272842 C_Italian 9.44639614 North_Italian 10.49471772 N_Italian 10.69281534 O_Italian 15.73688025 Sicilian 16.00622691 S_Italian_Sicilian 17.30512352 Greek 18.17842953 Baleares 20.15135976 Ashkenazi 20.40082106 Galicia 20.42391001 Andalucia 20.45373560 Murcia 20.71669375 Ashkenazy_Jews 20.81565036 Canarias 20.87153325 Extremadura 21.74343119 Portuguese 22.53675442 Castilla_Y_Leon 22.83532132 Sephardic_Jews 22.84008100 Morocco_Jews 22.90871668 Spaniards 24.20402652 Spanish 24.53147570 Castilla_La_Mancha 24.56740320 Cataluna
I ran ORD009 as that is the main sample for my 4 family members
Distance to: ORD009
4.29920923 N_Italian
6.56802101 North_Italian
7.80153831 TSI30
8.30936821 O_Italian
9.72200597 Tuscan
12.33029197 C_Italian
14.68796106 Baleares
15.91261135 Galicia
16.92803001 Extremadura
17.50352250 Portuguese
18.06073642 Murcia
18.63105472 Greek
19.15766687 Castilla_Y_Leon
19.28315845 Canarias
19.39687088 Andalucia
19.54674397 Bulgarians
19.55551585 Romanians
19.57861589 Spaniards
19.93520002 Bulgarian
20.08143919 Cataluna
20.68352484 Spanish
20.74732513 Sicilian
20.86380119 S_Italian_Sicilian
21.16052457 French
21.48606758 French
ORD009 against the ancient samples
Distance to: ORD009
2.56245976 Hungary_BA:I7041:Olalde_2018
3.67812452 C7-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R33:Antonio_2019
4.09274969 Collegno23:Amorim_2018 ..................................................this sample must be T1a2 ydna similar to me
4.29454305 Szolad28:Amorim_2018
4.51961282 Croatia_EMBA:I4332:Mathieson_2018
4.60505157 Croatia_EMBA:I4331:Mathieson_2018
4.64245625 Vucedol:I3499:Mathieson_2018
4.65891618 MOK31:Zegarac_2021
4.92696661 C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R55:Antonio_2019
4.96452415 Croatia_LBA:I3313:Mathieson_2018
5.24433027 VET001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
5.24764709 La_Tène_IA:ERS88:Brunel_2020
5.30784325 Etruscan_IA:R474:Antonio_2019
5.38990723 Burgweinting–Nord-West_II_(ADH)_388-532calADA_Female:NW54:Veeramah_2018
5.44865121 Szolad43:Amorim_2018
5.48566313 Protovillanovan_IA:R1:Antonio_2019
5.60266901 Collegno36:Amorim_2018
5.97239483 C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R110:Antonio_2019
6.07836327 I8475:Olalde_2019
6.33233764 I3593:Olalde_2018
6.59052350 MOK13:Zegarac_2021
6.76559680 I7040:Olalde_2018
6.86318439 Bulgaria_EBA:I2176:Mathieson_2018
7.12835886 Hungary_BA:I7043:Olalde_2018
7.24323823 Beaker_Central_Europe:I2364:Olalde_2018
Here are the samples compared to the Antonio et al. 2019 samples:
Distance to: SGR003 5.71909958 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 5.73702013 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 7.56998679 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 8.90385310 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 9.15789823 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 9.53946539 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 10.65570739 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 11.01757687 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 11.22702543 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna 11.61993546 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 11.67727280 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 12.38035137 C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata 12.66135459 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 12.70586085 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche 12.75827183 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 12.79148936 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 13.09032467 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 13.20226496 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 13.45789359 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 13.59737475 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna 13.65296671 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche 13.76423263 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi 13.76698587 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 13.99278028 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia 14.05156931 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
Distance to: SGR002 3.85388116 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 5.10384169 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 6.46166387 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 7.13030855 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 8.35569267 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 8.50989424 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 8.74653646 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 9.41078636 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 9.62949635 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 10.16607102 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 10.45598393 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 10.67390275 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 10.74379356 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 11.02912508 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 11.48505115 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 11.59607692 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 12.29828443 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 12.67712112 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 13.28611305 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 13.34023988 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 13.61867835 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 15.46603375 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 15.64589723 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 15.67561163 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 17.84522345 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria
Distance to: SGR001 8.89184458 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R69_ANAS 10.63326385 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R125_Casale_del_Dolce 11.57182354 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna 11.62621176 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina 11.69739287 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro 11.92226069 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropoli s 11.95793042 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1548_Monteroton do 12.14669091 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto 12.33697694 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s 12.34512859 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto 12.36708130 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Mont e_Agnese 12.46417266 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna 12.55850310 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna 12.66325787 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro 12.76096783 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R39_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis 12.77245865 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna 12.77865408 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 12.78217900 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis 13.07476195 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna 13.21758299 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R133_Marcellino_ &_Pietro 13.29490128 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna 13.36720240 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia 13.43338751 C5_Iron_Age_Eastern_Mediterranean:R850_(Latini)_Ar dea 13.49666996 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1545_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese 13.54771937 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R123_Casale_del_ Dolce
Distance to: SAL011 11.92533857 C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza 17.04249982 C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi 17.74525007 C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_ Biagio 18.55024259 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 19.68814872 C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza 20.01531913 C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza 20.63293968 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 20.87666640 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 21.07020883 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 21.40974778 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 21.45763733 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 21.54306849 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 21.93491281 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 23.04022569 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 24.69696135 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 25.60081835 C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 26.09059409 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 26.23600961 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 27.00615300 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 28.18263650 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 28.20491269 C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 28.73263824 C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza 28.89187429 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 28.90349287 C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 29.40115644 C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
Distance to: SAL010 6.19376299 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 8.82775170 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 10.36355634 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 10.68564925 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 10.93977605 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 11.19037980 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 12.06327070 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 12.19136170 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R31_Mausole_di_Augusto 12.63136968 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria 12.72207137 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 13.32300266 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 13.37861353 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 13.41684389 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 13.60793519 C7_Medieval_European:R1286_Cancelleria 13.83329317 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 14.46127588 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R106_Crypta_Balbi 15.09129219 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 16.62465037 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 16.77077219 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 16.99880878 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 17.19577855 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 18.08319386 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 18.99687606 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 19.47008218 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 19.83765863 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
Distance to: SAL007 8.63579759 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 9.29020990 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 9.42501989 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 10.92081041 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 11.72684953 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 12.68044558 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 13.89026278 C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi 14.21420065 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 14.34462269 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 14.82218607 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 16.54751945 C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza 17.07369614 C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_ Biagio 17.15603392 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 17.66110699 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 18.34756660 C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza 18.59459868 C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza 18.78519364 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 19.45537201 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 19.52892470 C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 19.53251904 C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 19.99506939 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 20.02808029 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 20.06557749 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 20.34872969 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 20.58027211 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
Distance to: SAL003 6.47006955 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 6.78864493 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 8.28608472 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 8.94773156 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 9.72429432 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 10.69616286 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 10.69957476 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna 10.97177287 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 11.05925404 C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata 11.11071105 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi 11.81150287 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna 11.82882919 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 11.98602520 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 12.17025883 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 12.28043159 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna 12.33768617 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche 12.69918501 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia 12.85805195 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna 12.97699118 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche 13.55895276 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna 13.63205047 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s 13.63485240 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 13.67619099 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 13.76131534 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto 13.80958001 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
Distance to: SAL001 7.77625231 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 8.50532186 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 9.50305740 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 9.78759419 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 10.54598502 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 11.21940729 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 11.40441143 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 12.09001654 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 12.42216165 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 12.44673853 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 12.47955929 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 12.86241424 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 13.14763857 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 13.47744412 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 13.83493766 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 13.96741923 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 14.58292152 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 15.22537027 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 15.36142246 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria 15.60425263 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 15.97430750 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 16.61350956 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 16.90822581 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 16.93459477 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R31_Mausole_di_Augusto 17.00344965 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R106_Crypta_Balbi
Distance to: ORD019 12.13129012 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 12.31501929 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 12.53333555 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 12.76177495 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 13.39852604 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 13.76132988 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 14.82548144 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 14.84331499 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 15.18713600 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 15.33643700 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 15.41275770 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 15.96493032 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 16.13616125 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 16.19880551 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 16.33261461 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche 16.57416665 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 16.71975777 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi 16.76673492 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna 16.86079476 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 16.86289714 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 17.00253805 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna 17.04440964 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche 17.22313560 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 17.30217905 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto 17.32566882 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
Distance to: ORD014 6.77624527 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 7.36892122 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 8.14744745 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 8.20290193 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 8.91404510 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 9.02551384 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 9.11435132 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 9.20897388 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 9.32255330 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 9.56331010 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 9.90801696 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 10.26604111 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 10.51568353 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 11.02474036 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 11.23123324 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 11.39308562 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 11.39878941 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 11.83792211 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 12.31451989 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 12.54711919 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 14.20378471 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 14.25888495 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 16.81003272 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 17.42675816 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 17.79177900 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria
Distance to: ORD011 7.08336078 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 7.81678962 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 8.71994266 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 8.88304565 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 9.58847225 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 9.72407836 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 9.98394712 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 10.48883216 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 10.54592812 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 10.60948161 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 10.61003299 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 10.83632779 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 11.58890418 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 11.73537814 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 11.86897637 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 12.16926867 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 12.44569403 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 12.78551524 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 13.09149342 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 14.32170730 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 14.36389223 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 15.30076469 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 15.65450414 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 15.75902281 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 15.96672477 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
Distance to: ORD010 4.94806023 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_N ecropolis 6.26591574 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis 6.37970219 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna 6.49286532 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna 6.78553609 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio 6.94050430 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna 6.98030802 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro 7.01658749 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna 7.38015582 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropoli s 7.44487072 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossin i_Necropolis 7.47183378 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Mont e_Agnese 7.69870119 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna 7.86928205 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina 7.98634460 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna 8.18399047 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R115_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis 8.21166853 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi 8.24408879 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s 8.35002395 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto 8.48540512 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R133_Marcellino_ &_Pietro 8.54436071 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R34_Mausol e_di_Augusto 8.58359482 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R66_ANAS 8.64171858 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1545_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese 8.64731172 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna 8.75099423 C5_Iron_Age_Eastern_Mediterranean:R850_(Latini)_Ar dea 8.80034090 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
Distance to: ORD009 4.16365224 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 4.92696661 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 5.57105017 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 5.81254677 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 5.97239483 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 7.83270068 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 8.78408219 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 9.10601999 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 9.51940649 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 9.55665213 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 9.89499368 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 9.90370638 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 9.91343533 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 10.04831329 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 10.32275641 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 10.81069840 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 10.86280811 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 11.50207807 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 11.71366723 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 12.41328724 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 12.89557288 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 13.03608837 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 13.07397032 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 13.44213525 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 13.67409595 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
Distance to: ORD006 6.51551993 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 6.86876263 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 7.59099466 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 7.99982500 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 9.11657282 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 9.15799651 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 9.37786756 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 9.98502879 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 10.14926598 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 10.38042388 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 10.42760279 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 11.12201421 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 11.18009839 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 11.55436714 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 12.18243818 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 12.95996528 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 12.97731482 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 13.29317870 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 13.47256472 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 13.63754377 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 13.83351004 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 14.41729864 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 14.49189429 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 14.57229906 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 14.61152969 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
Distance to: ORD004 7.85677415 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 7.97370679 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 10.38506620 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 11.06563600 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 11.10376963 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 11.60927646 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 11.70112388 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 11.71099056 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 11.89633137 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 12.20693655 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 12.52343403 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 12.66990923 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 13.11404209 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 13.13371615 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 13.76398561 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 13.80797596 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 13.84731382 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 14.65146750 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 14.79973311 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 14.85897372 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 16.66880020 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 17.15237593 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 18.63708132 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 18.65861999 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 18.83511349 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria
Distance to: ORD001 8.17145030 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 9.58189960 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 10.18462567 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 10.22149695 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 10.37998073 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 10.62731387 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 12.87804333 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 13.10230132 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 13.13049123 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 13.79975724 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 14.41261600 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 15.00346293 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo 15.03068861 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria 15.11261063 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 15.24790149 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 16.06914435 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R106_Crypta_Balbi 16.33035211 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 16.58054884 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 16.96048348 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna 17.19861332 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 17.26853497 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 17.97072063 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 18.00673485 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 18.00707916 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 18.14494971 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
Thanks Jovialis: My Dodecad 12B using Ancestry and NATGENO files. I used gradient of 100 for clarity of post.
Distance to: PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY 8.11016646 ORD010 12.92239142 SAL003 13.47548144 SGR003 15.82472117 SGR001 16.79643712 ORD009 18.60709811 ORD011 18.77327888 ORD019 21.31033317 ORD006 21.92545325 ORD001 26.23187946 ORD014 27.56216791 SAL007 27.89357632 ORD004 29.38632165 SGR002 33.41883601 SAL001 37.40359608 SAL010 39.22612012 SAL011
Distance to: PalermoTrapani_NATGENO 8.66988466 ORD010 12.53971690 SAL003 12.75773883 SGR003 15.78501821 ORD009 17.35091352 ORD011 18.33054555 SGR001 19.25632623 ORD019 19.99323886 ORD006 21.28827377 ORD001 25.21482500 ORD014 26.15694172 SAL007 27.22525115 ORD004 28.04003210 SGR002 32.37131601 SAL001 36.53636134 SAL010 37.76256877 SAL011
Distance to: SGR003 5.88563505 TSI30 6.60164373 Tuscan 8.63272842 C_Italian 9.44639614 North_Italian 10.49471772 N_Italian 10.69281534 O_Italian 15.73688025 Sicilian 16.00622691 S_Italian_Sicilian 17.30512352 Greek 18.17842953 Baleares 20.15135976 Ashkenazi 20.40082106 Galicia 20.42391001 Andalucia 20.45373560 Murcia 20.71669375 Ashkenazy_Jews 20.81565036 Canarias 20.87153325 Extremadura 21.74343119 Portuguese 22.53675442 Castilla_Y_Leon 22.83532132 Sephardic_Jews 22.84008100 Morocco_Jews 22.90871668 Spaniards 24.20402652 Spanish 24.53147570 Castilla_La_Mancha 24.56740320 Cataluna
Distance to: SGR002 8.61162006 Galicia 9.24180718 Baleares 10.84955299 Extremadura 11.06924117 Portuguese 11.39188308 Cataluna 11.46686531 Castilla_Y_Leon 11.93511625 Spaniards 12.23030662 French 12.34764350 North_Italian 12.39924191 N_Italian 12.51873796 Spanish 12.66384618 Murcia 12.69014972 French 13.29943608 Cantabria 14.45237005 Castilla_La_Mancha 14.56766282 Valencia 15.07864715 Andalucia 15.30812856 Aragon 15.84736571 Canarias 19.56543892 TSI30 19.56874804 English_mixed 21.09393278 O_Italian 21.35492917 Mixed_Germanic 21.45574748 Kent 21.63867833 Tuscan
Distance to: SGR001 12.92274739 Ashkenazy_Jews 13.15133833 S_Italian_Sicilian 13.57488121 Sicilian 13.73956695 Greek 14.41047189 Ashkenazi 15.66970644 Turkish 16.77302298 Sephardic_Jews 16.98105415 C_Italian 18.47784349 Turks 19.39507927 O_Italian 19.81770673 Tuscan 19.96781160 Cypriots 20.54678320 Morocco_Jews 21.59837725 TSI30 25.58878074 Kumyks 25.60257214 Lebanese 25.92916697 Bulgarian 26.15273408 Bulgarians 26.18560291 Nogais 26.73026188 Armenian 26.80391203 Uzbekistan_Jews 27.48319850 Druze 27.53673365 Armenians_15 27.56047351 Armenians 27.68450289 Romanians
Distance to: SAL011 9.90211089 Aragon 10.15798208 Castilla_La_Mancha 10.63944547 Valencia 11.68404896 Andalucia 11.94046063 Cantabria 12.57563517 Spaniards 13.01048039 Spanish 13.58111188 Murcia 13.69184429 Pais_Vasco 14.31777217 Cataluna 14.32915210 Castilla_Y_Leon 15.85366204 French_Basque 16.03360845 Baleares 16.25757054 Extremadura 16.88284336 Galicia 17.48107262 Portuguese 19.42129244 Canarias 23.28576389 Sardinian 24.09702679 North_Italian 26.50236971 N_Italian 27.77352336 French 28.35706085 French 30.91592470 TSI30 32.73406483 Tuscan 34.28099473 Cornwall
Distance to: SAL010 5.99056759 French 6.56490670 French 10.78553661 English_mixed 12.27785812 Kent 12.44039790 Mixed_Germanic 12.87905664 Irish 13.06129779 CEU30 13.10066792 Cornwall 13.21936080 Dutch 13.57996686 British_Isles 13.91177559 British 15.89199484 Cataluna 16.23168198 Orcadian 16.33063073 German 16.51712747 Argyll 16.63164153 Orkney 16.99519050 Galicia 17.51358044 Baleares 17.93380885 Spaniards 18.31777552 Extremadura 18.41943267 Cantabria 18.70805976 Castilla_Y_Leon 18.74350287 Spanish 18.84555651 Portuguese 19.59417005 N_Italian
Distance to: SAL007 8.78039862 Andalucia 9.14484554 Baleares 10.18038310 Murcia 10.77330961 Spaniards 11.47676784 Castilla_La_Mancha 11.61166224 North_Italian 11.66290701 Valencia 12.18278293 Galicia 12.19582716 Castilla_Y_Leon 12.29111061 Aragon 12.62030903 Cantabria 12.63255319 Extremadura 12.69588122 Spanish 13.29684925 Cataluna 14.23772103 Portuguese 14.73205349 N_Italian 15.89327531 Canarias 18.04623506 TSI30 19.76957258 Tuscan 22.93499945 O_Italian 23.28941176 C_Italian 24.30903124 French 24.72735732 Pais_Vasco 24.88413551 Sardinian 24.99420533 French
Distance to: SAL003 6.19113075 Tuscan 6.57283805 C_Italian 7.15680795 TSI30 10.52541211 O_Italian 12.82816822 Greek 12.85161468 Sicilian 13.33715862 North_Italian 13.39648835 S_Italian_Sicilian 13.81524882 N_Italian 16.38505111 Ashkenazi 16.90289916 Ashkenazy_Jews 20.77538207 Sephardic_Jews 21.99466981 Morocco_Jews 22.76116649 Bulgarians 23.23983434 Baleares 23.68290312 Bulgarian 24.37240037 Romanians 25.54310670 Galicia 25.96924912 Murcia 26.08811799 Andalucia 26.30164063 Extremadura 26.31991451 Canarias 26.97613390 Portuguese 27.80068165 Castilla_Y_Leon 28.10594065 Spaniards
Distance to: SAL001 10.89171704 French 11.14345548 French 12.74398289 Galicia 14.14436637 Baleares 14.37688770 Extremadura 14.40131938 Portuguese 14.47090529 Cataluna 14.90862502 Castilla_Y_Leon 15.70315573 Spaniards 15.80667264 Spanish 16.34041309 Cantabria 16.38347948 English_mixed 16.98977045 N_Italian 17.01702383 Murcia 17.57865183 North_Italian 17.83566932 Valencia 17.99747482 Castilla_La_Mancha 18.25911005 Mixed_Germanic 18.30779069 Kent 18.38311997 Canarias 18.50051621 Aragon 18.73606415 Irish 18.91954281 Cornwall 19.07136859 Dutch 19.08761640 CEU30
Distance to: ORD019 9.64852839 Tuscan 10.31733977 TSI30 11.53359874 O_Italian 11.76377490 C_Italian 13.31018783 N_Italian 14.00826899 North_Italian 15.28527069 Greek 18.96494661 Sicilian 18.98623975 Bulgarians 19.38075076 S_Italian_Sicilian 20.15682267 Bulgarian 20.40268365 Romanians 21.66045244 Ashkenazy_Jews 21.88336126 Ashkenazi 23.40404880 Baleares 25.82372359 Galicia 26.46376202 Extremadura 26.86824706 Andalucia 27.32254564 Murcia 27.33031833 Sephardic_Jews 27.34623923 Portuguese 27.50082726 Canarias 28.01409467 Spaniards 28.04060449 Castilla_Y_Leon 29.02218290 Morocco_Jews
Distance to: ORD014 9.77408819 N_Italian 10.11414356 North_Italian 11.53927207 Baleares 12.27798029 Galicia 13.85781368 Extremadura 14.15371683 Portuguese 14.85701181 Castilla_Y_Leon 15.49867091 Spaniards 15.51124753 Murcia 15.65927201 Cataluna 16.01686611 TSI30 16.10912785 French 16.37061392 Spanish 16.55654251 French 16.93117834 Canarias 17.01214272 Andalucia 17.24339874 Cantabria 17.48625746 O_Italian 17.87634750 Tuscan 17.97124370 Valencia 18.22802238 Castilla_La_Mancha 18.94021119 Aragon 20.89390102 C_Italian 22.01122214 English_mixed 23.04831447 Romanians
Distance to: ORD011 6.68038173 North_Italian 7.04809194 N_Italian 8.40828163 TSI30 9.85296910 Tuscan 11.10469270 O_Italian 13.06859212 C_Italian 15.58714214 Baleares 17.34499928 Galicia 18.86133081 Extremadura 19.03509916 Murcia 19.12744102 Greek 19.52279437 Portuguese 20.22362480 Castilla_Y_Leon 20.22806466 Andalucia 20.27271565 Spaniards 21.07043901 Bulgarians 21.19068191 Cataluna 21.26501822 Canarias 21.35206547 Sicilian 21.54342127 S_Italian_Sicilian 21.64751718 Romanians 21.69630844 Spanish 22.00215898 Bulgarian 22.54508816 Castilla_La_Mancha 22.58346740 Cantabria
Distance to: ORD010 5.96582769 Ashkenazi 6.61446143 S_Italian_Sicilian 6.97376512 Ashkenazy_Jews 7.13199832 Sicilian 7.94351937 Sephardic_Jews 10.63476845 Morocco_Jews 11.63654158 Greek 13.64534353 C_Italian 17.07201511 O_Italian 17.37686681 Cypriots 17.74189111 Tuscan 18.94621070 TSI30 20.20166082 Lebanese 21.83224908 Turkish 22.11555109 Syrians 23.23710610 Jordanians 24.13366528 Druze 24.28681535 Palestinian 24.34822992 Turks 25.57250281 N_Italian 25.97739594 Bulgarian 26.34223035 Bulgarians 26.50158863 North_Italian 27.62287277 Romanians 27.97640256 Uzbekistan_Jews
Distance to: ORD009 4.29920923 N_Italian 6.56802101 North_Italian 7.80153831 TSI30 8.30936821 O_Italian 9.72200597 Tuscan 12.33029197 C_Italian 14.68796106 Baleares 15.91261135 Galicia 16.92803001 Extremadura 17.50352250 Portuguese 18.06073642 Murcia 18.63105472 Greek 19.15766687 Castilla_Y_Leon 19.28315845 Canarias 19.39687088 Andalucia 19.54674397 Bulgarians 19.55551585 Romanians 19.57861589 Spaniards 19.93520002 Bulgarian 20.08143919 Cataluna 20.68352484 Spanish 20.74732513 Sicilian 20.86380119 S_Italian_Sicilian 21.16052457 French 21.48606758 French
Distance to: ORD006 7.20043749 North_Italian 7.37210960 N_Italian 11.57714991 TSI30 13.31065738 Baleares 13.32060809 Tuscan 13.55528679 O_Italian 14.53589351 Galicia 16.29209624 Extremadura 16.45295414 C_Italian 16.79564229 Murcia 16.84017518 Portuguese 17.61708262 Castilla_Y_Leon 17.72860965 Spaniards 18.32461732 Cataluna 18.45706369 Andalucia 18.97773432 Spanish 19.37523161 Canarias 19.88204215 Cantabria 20.02472472 Castilla_La_Mancha 20.15051364 French 20.36574575 Valencia 20.60682654 French 21.25538990 Aragon 22.29173838 Bulgarians 22.39217721 Romanians
Distance to: ORD004 11.05280507 N_Italian 11.11609644 North_Italian 14.62482479 Baleares 16.42944004 Galicia 16.43780095 TSI30 17.81598440 French 17.83232178 Extremadura 17.83857898 Tuscan 17.95036211 Spaniards 18.15001102 O_Italian 18.17139235 Cataluna 18.47029507 French 18.54441965 Castilla_Y_Leon 18.74019744 Portuguese 19.28723671 Murcia 19.56224680 Cantabria 19.58922408 Spanish 19.63231265 Andalucia 19.96715553 Valencia 20.99955952 Castilla_La_Mancha 21.20418119 Aragon 21.54155983 C_Italian 21.73475328 Canarias 22.89655651 Bulgarians 23.02037141 Romanians
Distance to: ORD001 11.53518964 Romanians 12.44759415 Bulgarian 12.61946909 Bulgarians 14.22010548 O_Italian 15.49006133 N_Italian 17.97519402 TSI30 18.36286742 North_Italian 18.92819590 Tuscan 19.19470239 Hungarians 19.55601953 C_Italian 20.63614790 Greek 22.06845939 French 22.18168163 French 22.51831699 German 23.19241040 English_mixed 23.29784969 Galicia 23.68933515 Baleares 24.32464799 Portuguese 24.51306182 Extremadura 24.68239454 Mixed_Germanic 25.62765889 Sicilian 25.85688690 S_Italian_Sicilian 26.08768675 Irish 26.31426609 Dutch 26.39129781 Ashkenazi
Interesting to note that I am much closer to the Medieval Central Italian samples from Rome, than I am to the so-called Medieval Apulian samples
Also, I am closer to R437, an Iron Age Latin-Outlier, than I am to the Iron Age Apulian samples.
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Distance to: Jovialis 2.85287574 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 3.25777531 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna 3.26810343 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 3.28435686 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche 3.78790179 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna 3.80023683 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche 4.00470973 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 4.06354525 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti 4.21379876 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna 4.31241232 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna 4.71858029 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia 4.83366321 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s 4.95721696 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna 5.01646290 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna 5.85387906 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna 5.92195914 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio 5.92265988 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 5.92911461 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna 5.99387187 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 6.11342784 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna 6.24504604 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 6.33969242 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s 6.42323906 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi 6.45382057 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Mont e_Agnese 6.57762115 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna 6.76304665 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro 6.90855267 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina 7.04876585 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria 7.09947181 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio 7.11866561 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 7.13333723 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo 7.17149915 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna 7.38571594 C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata 7.53342552 C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia 7.71926810 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto 8.58894638 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis 9.26038876 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria 9.66201842 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis 10.13525037 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro 10.17862957 C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria 10.47601069 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R125_Casale_del_Dolce 10.62648578 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_N ecropolis 10.72059700 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto 11.00351308 ORD010 11.41216894 C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropoli s 11.61768480 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R69_ANAS 12.29938210 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1548_Monteroton do 13.17645248 SAL003 13.87006128 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R133_Marcellino_ &_Pietro 13.98743722 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R115_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis 14.06126595 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R39_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis 14.27885149 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis 14.30037062 C5_Iron_Age_Eastern_Mediterranean:R850_(Latini)_Ar dea 14.31068482 SGR003 14.35199289 SGR001 14.45394064 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R123_Casale_del_ Dolce 14.49030020 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo 14.77857233 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1545_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese 14.78985463 C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R34_Mausol e_di_Augusto 14.88197904 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1543_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese 15.04400213 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossin i_Necropolis 15.37309988 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R134_Marcellino_ &_Pietro 15.41134647 ORD009 15.84475307 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R66_ANAS 15.92956371 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R40_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis 16.01960049 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto 16.07780147 C3_Imperial_North_African:R80_Viale_Rossini_Necrop olis 16.30636992 ORD019 16.44263969 C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna 17.27171387 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R41_Isola_Sacra_Necropoli s 17.40417479 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS 17.94313796 ORD011 18.84630733 C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 18.90660202 C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 19.25433977 ORD001 19.38917739 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi 19.68836458 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R72_ANAS 19.76621613 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R75_Viale_Rossini_Necropo lis 19.79932322 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R44_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis 19.99991000 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R128_Casale_del_ Dolce 20.09611903 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R130_Marcellino_ &_Pietro 20.50761078 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi 20.62921714 ORD006 21.06461963 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R43_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis 22.49046909 C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna 22.61013047 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R78_Viale_Rossin i_Necropolis 22.71990537 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R70_ANAS 22.78016242 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma 22.94618487 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia 23.61297525 C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia 23.69949367 C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria 24.22526574 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R76_Viale_Rossini_Necropo lis 24.35624766 C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica 24.37957342 C3_Imperial_North_African:R132_Marcellino_&_Pietro 24.38902007 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi 24.41502816 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R126_Casale_del_Dolce 24.66633739 ORD014 24.90899436 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi 25.46399615 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R38_Isola_Sacra_Necropoli s 25.68265952 C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria 25.87282551 ORD004 26.60909807 C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea 26.83155978 C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria 27.26163421 C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R71_ANAS 27.26256408 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1550_Monterotondo 27.53167812 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1547_Monterotondo 27.54692905 C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 27.55444429 C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna 28.24325052 SGR002 28.26578143 SAL007 28.76477533 C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria 28.84843670 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R42_Isola_Sacra_Necropoli s 28.97191744 C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe) _Palestrina_Colombella 29.05880934 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R67_ANAS 29.11701564 C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza 29.40672202 C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 29.97982989 C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 30.35301962 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R68_ANAS 30.78784176 C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza 30.82462327 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R106_Crypta_Balbi 31.04660046 C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza 31.15688046 C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria 31.25966411 C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza 31.27208340 C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna 31.81476544 SAL001 31.87221047 C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 32.09447460 C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza 33.43247373 C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1551_Monterotondo 34.07155559 C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado 34.31727116 C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria 34.98141364 SAL010 35.63000982 C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi 36.29568156 C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis 36.36697953 C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza 38.07871847 C7_Medieval_European:R1286_Cancelleria 38.65775472 C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R31_Mausole_di_Augusto 39.21222641 C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_ Biagio 39.43385348 C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza 40.10389009 SAL011 45.14819708 C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza 57.93461142 C1_Mesolithic:R7_Grotta_Continenza 58.70104939 C1_Mesolithic:R11_Grotta_Continenza 59.97044689 C1_Mesolithic:R15_Grotta_Continenza
@jovialis
I see the only North -Italians to be ORD004, 006, 009, 011 and 014 ..............all of these are between 650BC to 400BC.
ORD = Ordona ( ancient Herdonia ) ...........about 8k south of Foggia
SGR = San Giovanni Rotondo ............about 15k east of Foggia
SAL = Salapia .................about 18k south of Foggia
Are there no SAL or SGR which has north-Italian admixture ?
The medieval Foggia samples from the Viking paper are not close to the medieval Foggia samples from this paper. They're supposed to be from the same time and place... They seem more like outliers than representative of area.
The only one that looks close to anything here is VK538 to ORD001 which seems to have issues with this calculator.
Distance to: VK538_Dod_K12b 5.32662182 ORD001 11.02557481 ORD009 13.99500268 ORD006 14.74745063 ORD014 15.14247998 ORD011 16.34892351 SGR002 16.67989209 ORD004 17.47551430 SAL001 19.08727849 SAL010 19.67761164 ORD019 20.53684007 SGR003 21.77441618 SAL003 26.60632819 SAL007 27.33587021 ORD010 30.01409669 SGR001 36.42298862 SAL011
Distance to: VK537_Dod_K12b 9.15991266 ORD010 14.81641657 SAL003 14.83034052 SGR001 16.50386015 SGR003 17.34008362 ORD009 18.44473909 ORD019 19.12619408 ORD001 19.61832052 ORD011 22.12016501 ORD006 26.10404758 ORD014 27.78023758 ORD004 29.75787459 SGR002 30.93250232 SAL007 33.01393342 SAL001 36.93307461 SAL010 42.77258351 SAL011
Distance to: VK536_Dod_K12b 10.15304880 SAL003 10.22711103 SGR003 12.61717480 ORD009 13.00875090 ORD010 14.54372029 ORD019 14.86126172 ORD011 16.59772876 SGR001 17.45287082 ORD006 19.01217768 ORD001 21.42385353 ORD014 22.94094593 ORD004 24.21892855 SAL007 25.08472244 SGR002 29.06104265 SAL001 32.91268752 SAL010 36.17252687 SAL011
Distance to: VK535_Dod_K12b 10.58379894 ORD010 16.32889463 SGR003 16.85890269 SAL003 17.13341180 SGR001 17.25609168 ORD009 20.22600554 ORD001 20.48237535 ORD011 21.07198614 ORD019 22.33399875 ORD006 26.55172499 ORD014 28.78637178 ORD004 29.37449404 SGR002 29.47138443 SAL007 32.77624140 SAL001 36.88829083 SAL010 40.28760479 SAL011
Distance to: VK534_Dod_K12b 8.76409151 ORD010 13.39262110 SGR001 18.00319694 SAL003 21.21275324 ORD019 21.24703038 SGR003 22.53708056 ORD009 22.65661493 ORD001 24.00435377 ORD011 26.83316232 ORD006 31.07637044 ORD014 31.93916874 ORD004 34.99876284 SGR002 36.34954745 SAL007 37.95514063 SAL001 41.52954972 SAL010 48.63161317 SAL011
Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè 5.95642510 ORD009 9.51839272 ORD011 10.24488165 ORD001 11.15438927 ORD006 12.28001221 SGR003 12.67598911 SAL003 13.63475339 ORD019 14.88423999 ORD014 16.70144605 ORD004 18.06751228 SGR002 19.09894500 ORD010 21.58455235 SAL001 22.56468923 SAL007 23.16593836 SGR001 24.63075923 SAL010 34.44569349 SAL011
Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.0829% / 1.0829374444.1 ORD010 35.5 SAL010 12.4 ORD001 5.7 SGR001 2.3 ORD019
Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè 1.86443024 56.40% ORD010 + 43.60% SAL010 3.98207912 56.00% ORD001 + 44.00% SAL003 4.01431492 55.20% ORD001 + 44.80% SGR003 4.01803163 81.00% ORD009 + 19.00% ORD010 4.35577089 84.80% ORD009 + 15.20% SGR001 4.87401567 27.60% ORD001 + 72.40% ORD009 4.98628964 53.20% ORD010 + 46.80% SAL001 5.10902167 43.20% ORD010 + 56.80% ORD014 5.55306597 48.40% ORD010 + 51.60% SGR002 5.67802622 86.20% ORD009 + 13.80% SAL003 5.72055191 88.20% ORD009 + 11.80% ORD019 5.74473328 53.80% ORD004 + 46.20% ORD010 6.09981128 59.80% ORD001 + 40.20% ORD019 6.13613457 47.00% ORD001 + 53.00% ORD011 6.29570425 43.20% SGR001 + 56.80% SGR002 6.40835574 71.00% ORD006 + 29.00% SGR001 6.50903862 69.40% ORD001 + 30.60% ORD010 6.66392019 74.00% ORD001 + 26.00% SGR001 6.66828677 66.60% ORD006 + 33.40% ORD010 6.95664131 77.20% ORD011 + 22.80% SGR001 7.21921738 26.00% ORD010 + 74.00% ORD011 7.27633486 74.80% ORD001 + 25.20% SAL007 7.58598899 63.00% ORD014 + 37.00% SGR001 7.68739715 54.40% ORD001 + 45.60% ORD006 7.92107654 52.00% SAL001 + 48.00% SGR001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
nice jovialis:great:
there had to be some east med geneflow or muslim influence
in those 2 medieval apulians
if iron age apulians cluster with north italians :thinking:
Distance to: adam 7.88524572 ORD010 13.57914209 SGR001 18.92121825 SAL003 20.41120036 SGR003 21.80213751 ORD009 22.72310498 ORD019 23.46603503 ORD001 24.30291341 ORD011 26.86017126 ORD006 31.10948730 ORD014 32.69720324 ORD004 34.46707414 SGR002 34.48557670 SAL007 37.84124866 SAL001 41.26958081 SAL010 45.86882165 SAL011
Any word on when the Danubian Limes samples are coming out? I also have my eye on that one.
ORD009 is the highest quality sample plus it's more Northern (that's why they score Liguria first) than other samples. So Daunians are indeed closer to Central Italians. I am gonna wish for better quality for Messapians. Let's wait how G25 results are.
Distance to: ORD009 2.01910871 Italian_Liguria 2.79744526 Italian_Lombardy 3.22854456 Italian_Emilia 3.59342455 Italian_Piedmont 4.42649975 Italian_Tuscany 4.63920252 Italian_Veneto 5.98281811 Swiss_Italian 6.84963503 Italian_Friuli_VG 7.04014204 Italian_Romagna 7.08038841 Italian_Trentino 7.46207076 French_Corsica 8.95600916 Italian_Umbria 9.62911730 Italian_Aosta_Valley 10.41710056 Italian_Marche 10.45613695 Spanish_Baleares 10.56515499 Italian_Lazio 11.38797612 Portuguese 11.40762903 Albanian_Kosovo 11.43364771 Spanish_Canarias 11.64887548 Macedonian_Vardar 11.78715827 Macedonian_South 12.34889874 Macedonian_East 12.36776051 Spanish_Castilla-Leon 12.91960913 Spanish_Valencia 12.94037480 Greek_Thessaly
Here is something interesting I observed with these samples:
If we compare what makes me different from the Daunian ORD009, we can see it points to the Caucasus.
Basically, I can be modeled as 2/3rd IA_Daunian + 1/3rd BA_Caucasian.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↑
A: ORD009
B: Jovialis
C: ↴-15.23933546 Balkans_N:I1113:Mathieson_2018 -15.21606936 France_EBA:EUG11:Brunel_2020 -15.20671528 Malak_Preslavets:I1108:Mathieson_2018 -15.08927813 NE_Iberia_Greek_(Empúries1):I8344:Olalde_2019 -15.08910642 WHG-like_Brunn_am_Gebirge:I6913:Nikitin_2019 -15.03695833 C_Iberia_BA:I12855:Olalde_2019 -15.03144599 I7673:Olalde_2019 -14.99370136 France_EBA:PSS4170:Brunel_2020 -14.99293888 Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR4:Brunel_2020 -14.99228732 Germany_MN:I1560_d:Lipson_2017 -14.98727896 I12171:Olalde_2019 -14.98470186 E_Iberia_IA:I12877:Olalde_2019 -14.97922079 C7-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R37:Antonio_2 019 -14.97882381 N_Iberia_IA:I3759:Olalde_2019 -14.93777050 NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I3775:Olalde_2019 -14.91726302 I6468:Olalde_2018 -14.91717211 C_Iberia_BA:I6470:Olalde_2019 -14.91653353 I3757:Olalde_2019 -14.88978126 Iron_Gates_HG_o:I5232:Mathieson_2018 -14.88667998 Blatterhohle_MN:I1593:Lipson_2017 -14.86355555 utigGCP002A1:Saupe_2021 -14.86141708 Oberbipp_Horgen_(CH):MX299:Furtwängler_2020 -14.85661656 I3758:Olalde_2019 -14.83935171 La_Tène_IA:PECH5:Brunel_2020 -14.83649209 I8339:Olalde_2019
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: ORD009
B: Jovialis
C: ↴15.08434398 Caucasus_lowlands_LN:MTT001:Skourtanioti_2020 15.07452203 Arslantepe_LC:ART018_PE:Skourtanioti_2020 15.05756329 Caucasus_lowlands_LN:POT002:Skourtanioti_2020 15.04564170 Caucasus_lowlands_LN:POT002:Skourtanioti_2020 15.02465394 Arslantepe_LC:ART018_SR:Skourtanioti_2020 15.02363386 C4-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1551:Antonio_2019 14.96473381 Arslantepe_LC:ART027_SR:Skourtanioti_2020 14.96467911 Alalakh_MLBA:ALA039:Skourtanioti_2020 14.94355143 Arslantepe_LC:ART017_SR:Skourtanioti_2020 14.94045964 C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R136:Antonio_201 9 14.93674483 C5-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1548:Antonio_2019 14.91465053 Arslantepe_LC:ART004:Skourtanioti_2020 14.90852467 Caucasus_lowlands_LC:ALX002_SR:Skourtanioti_2020 14.90561583 Arslantepe_LC:ART017_PE:Skourtanioti_2020 14.87013399 Arslantepe_LC:ART027_PE:Skourtanioti_2020 14.86993140 C5-Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_Imperial_Rome:R1543:Ant onio_2019 14.86829986 Kura-Araxes_EBA:I1635:Lazaridis_2016 14.83747371 Arslantepe_EBA:ART010_PE:Skourtanioti_2020 14.81610655 C6-Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_Imperial_Rome:R1544:Ant onio_2019 14.81016474 C4-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R67:Antonio_2019 14.80085039 Kura-Araxes:ARM002:Wang_2019 14.79635809 C4-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R68:Antonio_2019 14.78728982 C6-Palestrina_Imperial_Rome:R436:Antonio_2019 14.76468951 Kura-Araxes:ARM003:Wang_2019 14.76432845 C4-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R38:Antonio_2 019
Distance to: Jovialis 15.41134647 ORD009 31.49167668 Caucasus_lowlands_LN:MTT001:Skourtanioti_2020
Distance to: Caucasus_lowlands_LN:MTT001:Skourtanioti_2020 7.56879779 Armenian
Target: Jovialis
Distance: 2.5944% / 2.5944418567.4 ORD009 32.6 Caucasus_lowlands_LN
I would bet that ORD010 probably has some Saracen influence, because the difference between me and that sample is straight up Levantine (Natufian-admixed):Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↑
A: Jovialis
B: ORD010
C: ↴-10.53624136 NE_Iberia_RomP:I6491:Olalde_2019 -10.27504144 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019 -10.01483253 Altenerding-Klettham_(ADH)_Female_338-475calAD_485-535AD:AED125b:Veeramah_2018 -9.91936428 I5015:Olalde_2018 -9.67374454 I5017:Olalde_2018 -9.66429559 Beaker_Central_Europe:I3599:Olalde_2018 -9.64962796 TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021 -9.63630733 Nordic_Type-(ADH)_Female:STR535:Veeramah_2018 -9.55754948 I12164:Olalde_2019 -9.53507947 Beaker_Central_Europe:I3604:Olalde_2018 -9.48121063 Thraco-Cimmerian:MJ-12:Jarve_2019 -9.46913328 Collegno53:Amorim_2018 -9.45725849 NE_Iberia_c6CE_PL:I12033:Olalde_2019 -9.33903474 Scythian:scy311:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct) -9.33318290 I7639:Olalde_2018 -9.32765867 I3596:Olalde_2018 -9.32691776 La_Tène_IA:ERS1164:Brunel_2020 -9.31767161 I5520:Olalde_2018 -9.30865784 I4945:Olalde_2018 -9.27111586 Scythian:scy304:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct) -9.25907713 I4249:Olalde_2018 -9.25688430 Beaker_Central_Europe:I7275:Olalde_2018 -9.23792007 Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log04:Clemente_2021 -9.22638550 Beaker_Central_Europe:E09538:Olalde_2018 -9.22528592 I4946:Olalde_2018
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Jovialis
B: ORD010
C: ↴10.81446901 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1155:Harn ey_2018 10.76226857 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1184:Harn ey_2018 10.71873744 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1168:Harn ey_2018 10.61897638 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1160:Harn ey_2018 10.58272221 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1164:Harn ey_2018 10.56551352 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1180:Harn ey_2018 10.53689977 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1154:Harn ey_2018 10.48148864 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1152:Harn ey_2018 10.47617483 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1171:Harn ey_2018 10.45526043 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1182:Harn ey_2018 10.45360428 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1170:Harn ey_2018 10.42423346 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1179:Harn ey_2018 10.41340206 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1178:Harn ey_2018 10.41286048 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1187:Harn ey_2018 10.40855683 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1169:Harn ey_2018 10.37954854 Levant_N:I1701:Lazaridis_2016 10.37856112 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1172:Harn ey_2018 10.36889147 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1183_d:Ha rney_2018 10.33905922 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1166:Harn ey_2018 10.21250240 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1177:Harn ey_2018 10.20040256 Levant_BA:I1730:Lazaridis_2016 10.11243002 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1165:Harn ey_2018 10.10606830 İkiztepe_LC:IKI038:Skourtanioti_2020 10.06338678 Ancient_Egyptian:JK2134:Schuenemann_2017 10.02975211 LBK_EN:I2005:Lipson_2017
Dodecad 12B distances (Top 10) for Danubians using Estrucan and Basilicata samples from Posth et al 2021 paper "The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2000-year archeogenomic time transect"
Distance to: SGR003 5.94590615 ETR010 7.06024787 ETR006 8.39179957 POP001 8.51145111 ETR013 9.04584988 TAQ022 9.51753119 TAQ009 10.03700653 TAQ011 10.08439884 TAQ020 10.35107724 VEU001 10.53070273 VET001
Distance to: SGR002 4.68212559 PRZ002 6.89088528 CAM001 6.90240538 TAQ001 7.11973314 TAQ016 7.37112610 CSN010 7.39902021 CSN008 7.56595004 TAQ019 7.65233951 TAQ004 7.81037771 CAM003 8.03080320 CSN001
Distance to: SGR001 14.15046289 VEN012 14.77935046 ETR014 14.94171008 TAQ003 14.97329623 VEN006 15.32855831 VEN005 15.49594140 VEN013 16.08058768 VEN015 16.36894621 TAQ021 16.59850596 MAS002 16.82142087 VEN001
Distance to: SAL011 14.32201452 TAQ012 16.32623043 CSN004 17.06387119 TAQ008 17.38105290 VET007 17.92161823 TAQ017 18.05106091 CSN003 18.65095976 CSN007 18.69448849 VET011 19.16083505 CAM003 19.56583246 VET002
Distance to: SAL010 6.28593668 VET005 8.33964628 CAM002 10.78882755 CSN010 12.86447045 UDC_P 13.26703433 CSN008 13.73138376 MAS004 13.88514314 PRZ002 14.51640107 CSN012 16.13642463 CSN005 16.57881479 CSN002
Distance to: SAL007 3.42147629 TAQ012 5.19651807 CSN004 5.98080262 TAQ017 6.70681743 VET007 6.74945183 TAQ008 7.19252390 VET002 7.78009640 CSN007 8.32338873 CSN003 8.35371774 TAQ018 8.74006293 TAQ013
Distance to: SAL003 6.39077460 ETR010 8.16328978 POP001 8.36761615 ETR013 8.95930801 TAQ009 9.59400855 TAQ022 9.79175674 ETR006 10.60465935 TAQ021 10.91983058 TAQ011 10.95366605 VEN017 11.68952950 TAQ020
Distance to: SAL001 8.18297012 CSN010 8.57958624 CAM002 9.74403407 PRZ002 10.28883861 UDC_P 11.24469653 VET005 11.52591428 CSN012 11.69528110 CSN008 11.78300471 CSN005 11.97888559 MAS004 12.27830200 TAQ001
Distance to: ORD019 10.48864148 TAQ022 11.55514171 POP001 11.60765265 CSN009 11.64505474 TAQ006 12.29873977 ETR010 12.69123319 TAQ009 12.76714925 CSN002 13.35416414 TAQ020 13.99194054 ETR013 14.23710645 VEU001
Distance to: ORD014 5.32971857 PRZ002 5.42706182 MAS004 5.73863224 CSN005 6.33037124 VOL001 6.77239987 TAQ006 6.88430824 CSN008 7.08674820 TAQ019 7.19277415 TAQ001 7.22886575 CSN009 7.28420208 VET001
Distance to: ORD011 5.39201261 VET001 6.18942647 VOL001 7.16297424 TAQ002 7.51988032 TAQ006 7.94584797 VEU001 8.00527326 CSN001 8.19323501 MAG001 8.30339690 TAQ015 8.49814097 ETR005 8.56479422 CSN009
Distance to: ORD010 4.59941301 ETR014 6.78947715 MAS002 7.29499143 VEN015 8.56057241 VEN012 8.65677769 VEN016 8.91321491 TAQ021 9.42338050 TAQ003 10.06500869 VEN013 10.17965127 VEN005 10.61008011 VEN001
Distance to: ORD009 5.24433027 VET001 7.36747582 CSN005 7.46725519 CSN009 7.58424683 VOL001 8.18590252 TAQ006 8.43888618 POP001 8.66895034 TAQ022 8.76640177 CSN006 8.81552040 CSN013 8.85961060 CSN008
Distance to: ORD006 4.23157181 VET001 5.10840484 VOL001 5.81871120 CSN001 5.99354653 TAQ002 6.73645307 CSN006 6.74083081 ETR005 7.07381085 TAQ015 7.34993197 VEU001 7.43492434 CAM001 7.55246979 TAQ019
Distance to: ORD004 3.90639220 MAS004 6.47434167 CSN002 7.08855415 CSN009 7.15793266 MAG001 7.71954014 TAQ006 8.15677632 CSN008 8.26452660 TAQ010 8.26899631 VOL001 8.42884334 PRZ002 8.78585795 TAQ002
Distance to: ORD001 7.15296442 MAS001 9.94691409 ETR007 11.19466391 CSN005 13.56424344 CSN009 14.68057901 CAM002 15.07017253 CSN010 15.19138243 TAQ009 15.30518213 VET001 15.69626707 TAQ011 15.76193199 ETR003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
As far as the Daunians being "natives", they have only been in the region as long as the late Bronze age, which is probably after the arrival of the CHG-pulse into the region from the Early Bronze Age:
Quote:
Towards the late Bronze Age (11th-10th centuries BC), Illyrian populations from the eastern Adriatic arrived in Apulia.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunians
^^
hmmm, this makes me ponder this observation a bit more:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
I would be hesitant to draw a lot of conclusions from these samples given that a lot of them are of poor quality, which is why so many aren't really close to anyone.
Perhaps the analysis should only center on the ones which are of decent quality.
My analysis similar to Jovialis Post #380. My results are consistent with his.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↑
A: PalermoTrapani_Combined
B: ORD010
C: ↴-7.60404166 I3574:Olalde_2019 -7.52651938 Collegno121:Amorim_2018 -7.49438938 I12173:Olalde_2019 -7.48455582 bns023-b1e1l1:Krzewinska_2018_(Sept) -7.39565774 I2469:Olalde_2019 -7.37212878 TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021 -7.23687882 I3587:Olalde_2018 -7.22413589 Beaker_Central_Europe:I5022:Olalde_2018 -7.19709389 I4936:Olalde_2018 -7.18030356 Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro:I4329:Fernandes_2020 -7.15935268 C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antoni o_2019 -7.14939480 ETR012:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021 -7.14490600 Sardinia_Early_Medieval_Grotta_Colombi:I12221:Fern andes_2020 -7.13403701 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12649:Olalde_2019 -7.11298941 I4556:Olalde_2019 -7.09864361 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019 -7.09719330 France_LBA:NIED:Brunel_2020 -7.08668031 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:An tonio_2019 -7.05726813 E_Iberia_IA:I3327:Olalde_2019 -7.05251212 I12164:Olalde_2019 -7.03541865 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12648:Olalde_2019 -7.03071986 utigGCP003A1:Saupe_2021 -7.02513885 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3981:Olalde_2019 -7.00738450 CSN012:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021 -7.00619696 I5520:Olalde_2018
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: PalermoTrapani_Combined
B: ORD010
C: ↴7.62746112 LBK_EN:I2005:Lipson_2017 7.54455032 Levant_N:I1701:Lazaridis_2016 7.50633295 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1154:Harn ey_2018 7.40042482 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1155:Harn ey_2018 7.29718534 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1180:Harn ey_2018 7.21369026 Levant_BA:I1730:Lazaridis_2016 7.19247760 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1184:Harn ey_2018 7.15732360 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1168:Harn ey_2018 7.11995164 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1164:Harn ey_2018 7.08077779 İkiztepe_LC:IKI038:Skourtanioti_2020 7.03199985 Ashkelon_IA2:ASH087:Feldman_2019_(Jul.) 7.00796010 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1179:Harn ey_2018 6.99978564 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1160:Harn ey_2018 6.97243214 Ebla_EMBA:ETM001:Skourtanioti_2020 6.86436526 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1172:Harn ey_2018 6.85563516 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1170:Harn ey_2018 6.85182247 Ashkelon_LBA:ASH033:Feldman_2019_(Jul.) 6.81281654 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1171:Harn ey_2018 6.76164418 Alalakh_MLBA:ALA008:Skourtanioti_2020 6.74713749 TellKurdu_MC:KRD002:Skourtanioti_2020 6.73423037 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1152:Harn ey_2018 6.73307736 Ebla_EMBA:ETM012:Skourtanioti_2020 6.71805248 Ebla_EMBA:ETM006:Skourtanioti_2020 6.68537518 Ancient_Egyptian:JK2134:Schuenemann_2017 6.67863808 Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1166:Harn ey_2018
Considering the disappointment with ORD001, I'd say caution is certainly advised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angela
What local origin? They arrived in the late Bronze Age. You think local WHG were hiding out there???Quote:
Originally Posted by torzio
Thanks, Stuvane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuvanè
This is a prime example of why the two way admixture function is so misleading and unhelpful.
:worried:Is there a list of the samples by quality? Did I miss it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
Thanks in advance.
Jovialis: Following your post in #379, I get a reasonable 2-way fit with 1 of the Iron Age Daunians (from Salapia) and Caucus Lowlands. My results are similar to yours again. So if I understand your post correctly, you are suggesting an CHG or Iran Neolithic type admixture into Southern Italy/Sicily that predates Roman period and even bronze age. I think some of the previous papers have been suggesting this (e.g., Antonio et al 2019). If I am wrong, my apologies. Thanks for the coordinates again.
Target: PalermoTrapani_Combined
Distance: 3.2712% / 3.27117932 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.8 SAL003
31.2 Caucasus_lowlands_LC
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....524#post819524Quote:
Originally Posted by Angela
Indeed, most of them are very low-coverage, even in the single digits; with the exception of ORD009 and ORD010:Quote:
Originally Posted by Angela
Filename Calculator Genotype ratio ORD001.txt Dodecad K12b 4.22% ORD004.txt Dodecad K12b 4.23% ORD006.txt Dodecad K12b 12.85% ORD009.txt Dodecad K12b 65.02% ORD010.txt Dodecad K12b 62.17% ORD011.txt Dodecad K12b 9.53% ORD014.txt Dodecad K12b 11.36% ORD019.txt Dodecad K12b 4.96% SAL001.txt Dodecad K12b 5.14% SAL003.txt Dodecad K12b 11.56% SAL007.txt Dodecad K12b 3.71% SAL010.txt Dodecad K12b 3.17% SAL011.txt Dodecad K12b 5.00% SGR001.txt Dodecad K12b 4.71% SGR002.txt Dodecad K12b 10.43% SGR003.txt Dodecad K12b 5.99%
We see a CHG pulse into the Mediterranean which some speculate may have come in the early Bronze age (Raveane et al. 2018). A good paper to get familiar with much of this is Sarno et al. 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani
This is supported by the fact that Minoans, Mycenaeans, Daunians, Latins, Etruscans, South Eastern Iberians, BA Sicilians, and Sardinians all must be modeled with extra CHG/Iran_N along with regular Steppe, in their modeling for academic papers.
It is also possible it has been trickling in slowly since earlier times, as seen in Neolithic Central Italian samples, that can be modeled better with (95%) Central Anatolian farmers, than others like LBK. As well as J2 being present there as well since the neolithic.
We also see a great push of CHG into Anatolia during the copper age, westward. As well as massive diffusion of this kind of ancestry into the Levant, supplanting haplogroups, and becoming a very strong component there; prior to which was mostly Levant_N and Anatolian_N.
^^Looking forward to the Balkan IA samples, because they will likely show more of the same, especially since they need to be modeled with Aegean_IA.
My results again with the admixture and two way results included.
Distance to: Angela 5.50442549 SGR003 7.36377621 ORD009 8.12565074 ORD011 8.76072486 SAL003 10.57615242 ORD006 10.62336576 ORD019 13.79169315 ORD014 14.71112164 ORD004 15.53606771 SAL007 17.38914029 SGR002 18.57492396 ORD001 21.72402587 ORD010 21.96395911 SAL001 23.93889931 SGR001 25.43408540 SAL010 28.23543873 SAL011
SGR 003
Distance to: SGR003 4.94254995 French_Corsica 8.92909850 Italian_Tuscany 9.45517319 Italian_Romagna 9.62746072 Italian_Emilia 9.94150391 Italian_Liguria 10.13745353 Italian_Marche 10.27812240 Italian_Umbria 11.39715754 Italian_Lombardy 11.57066117 Italian_Lazio 13.22713877 Italian_Piedmont 13.74658867 Italian_Veneto 14.48500259 Italian_Abruzzo 14.84739034 Italian_Molise 15.23313206 Swiss_Italian 15.48784039 Albanian 15.61807607 Italian_Campania 16.53730933 Italian_Friuli_VG 16.64232556 Italian_Trentino 16.65447988 Albanian_Kosovo 16.72953974 Greek_Central 16.74756400 Italian_Sicily 16.76540784 Greek_Athens 16.82096311 Greek_Thessaly 16.84315588 Greek_Thrace 16.88500222 Italian_Basilicata
ORD009
Distance to: ORD009 2.01910871 Italian_Liguria 2.79744526 Italian_Lombardy 3.22854456 Italian_Emilia 3.59342455 Italian_Piedmont 4.42649975 Italian_Tuscany 4.63920252 Italian_Veneto 5.98281811 Swiss_Italian 6.84963503 Italian_Friuli_VG 7.04014204 Italian_Romagna 7.08038841 Italian_Trentino 7.46207076 French_Corsica 8.95600916 Italian_Umbria 9.62911730 Italian_Aosta_Valley 10.41710056 Italian_Marche 10.45613695 Spanish_Baleares 10.56515499 Italian_Lazio 11.38797612 Portuguese 11.40762903 Albanian_Kosovo 11.43364771 Spanish_Canarias 11.64887548 Macedonian_Vardar 11.78715827 Macedonian_South 12.34889874 Macedonian_East 12.36776051 Spanish_Castilla-Leon 12.91960913 Spanish_Valencia 12.94037480 Greek_Thessaly
Distance to: ORD011 6.42186110 Italian_Lombardy 6.88650855 Italian_Liguria 7.63293522 Italian_Emilia 8.10289454 Italian_Tuscany 8.50312663 Swiss_Italian 8.54601077 French_Corsica 8.63030127 Italian_Piedmont 8.88684421 Italian_Veneto 10.06520740 Italian_Romagna 10.09342856 Italian_Trentino 10.92957913 Italian_Friuli_VG 11.61375478 Italian_Umbria 12.66085700 Italian_Aosta_Valley 12.85975365 Italian_Marche 12.98476800 Spanish_Baleares 13.43456363 Italian_Lazio 14.10114889 Albanian_Kosovo 14.48291407 Portuguese 14.54434254 Spanish_Castilla-Leon 14.78194507 Macedonian_South 14.80031419 Spanish_Valencia 14.91207900 Macedonian_Vardar 15.04591971 Spanish_Canarias 15.05025249 Albanian 15.16072887 Macedonian_East
Distance to: SAL003 8.82537251 French_Corsica 10.10311061 Italian_Marche 10.21458761 Italian_Umbria 10.30606132 Italian_Romagna 11.11037353 Italian_Tuscany 11.36665298 Italian_Lazio 12.23170471 Italian_Emilia 12.54079344 Italian_Liguria 12.85479677 Italian_Molise 13.02486468 Italian_Abruzzo 13.11500667 Albanian 13.73923215 Italian_Campania 13.97218308 Greek_Athens 14.00067141 Italian_Lombardy 14.36772425 Greek_Central 15.08748819 Greek_Thrace 15.18918694 Greek_Thessaly 15.25700495 Italian_Apulia 15.28364158 Albanian_Kosovo 15.34261712 Italian_Sicily 15.50002581 Greek_Peloponnese 15.51963595 Italian_Veneto 15.60632564 Greek_Thessaloniki 15.72926890 Greek_Foca 15.75539590 Italian_Basilicata
Distance to: ORD006 6.56547790 Italian_Lombardy 6.97412450 Swiss_Italian 7.90031645 Italian_Liguria 8.14086605 Italian_Piedmont 8.60689840 Italian_Trentino 8.87972973 Italian_Veneto 8.96735747 Italian_Emilia 9.99375305 Italian_Tuscany 10.17519533 Spanish_Baleares 10.21299662 Italian_Aosta_Valley 10.44496529 Italian_Friuli_VG 10.95734913 French_Corsica 11.63861246 Spanish_Castilla-Leon 11.69351102 Portuguese 11.87551683 Spanish_Valencia 12.30234124 Spanish_Catalonia 12.41697226 Italian_Romagna 12.71958726 Spanish_Canarias 13.51683025 Spanish_Andalusia 13.56832709 Spanish_Galicia 14.02259605 Spanish_Aragon 14.15262167 Italian_Umbria 14.19366056 Spanish_Cantabria 15.29555491 Austrian_Tyrol 15.50962359 Italian_Marche
Target: Angela
Distance: 1.1662% / 1.1661654340.8 ORD019 24.1 SAL011 20.5 ORD010 7.0 ORD014 4.1 SGR001 3.5 ORD001
ORD 019 = Tuscan like
SAL 011=Aragon
ORD 010=Ashkenazi and S.Italian Sicilian
ORD 014=North Italian
SGR 001=Ashkenazi and S.Italian Sicilian
ORD 001=Romanian and Bulgarian
SAL 010=French
So, French and TSI or North Italian and TSI, but the fits aren't good.
Distance to: Angela 3.78935295 13.60% SAL010 + 86.40% SGR003 3.79111422 38.80% ORD009 + 61.20% SGR003 3.94623961 22.60% ORD014 + 77.40% SGR003 3.95988751 21.20% ORD004 + 78.80% SGR003 4.34080895 16.80% SGR002 + 83.20% SGR003 4.46044561 25.00% ORD019 + 75.00% SGR003 4.53583932 31.60% ORD011 + 68.40% SGR003 4.56915347 12.60% SAL001 + 87.40% SGR003 4.59343993 14.40% ORD001 + 85.60% SGR003 4.65121666 56.60% ORD009 + 43.40% SAL003 4.80860370 22.20% ORD006 + 77.80% SGR003 5.22475381 70.20% SAL003 + 29.80% SGR002 5.27595320 9.60% SAL007 + 90.40% SGR003 5.32764864 80.00% SAL003 + 20.00% SAL011 5.33696068 78.20% SAL003 + 21.80% SAL010 5.36157495 4.40% SAL011 + 95.60% SGR003 5.44403861 61.40% ORD019 + 38.60% SAL007 5.47032354 64.80% ORD009 + 35.20% ORD019 5.47088573 8.20% SAL003 + 91.80% SGR003 5.50397173 61.60% SAL007 + 38.40% SGR001 5.55710268 68.20% SAL003 + 31.80% SAL007 5.56575644 35.00% ORD014 + 65.00% SAL003 5.57205207 24.20% SAL001 + 75.80% SAL003 5.89910368 75.80% ORD019 + 24.20% SAL011 6.04478481 81.00% ORD011 + 19.00% SGR001
I wouldn't use J2 as an argument, because just like H and E1b, it seems to have been common in various early farmer groups, which were otherwise not much more Eastern shifted than the LBK farmers, sometimes even more WHG actually. Because of this, we need to reconstruct J2 and its subclades migrations first, before using it for any sort of argument in favour of an earlier Iranian ancestry spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
Since you mentioned Minoans: Its so low in those, that even if they would have replaced local, earlier EEF groups completely, it wouldn't suffice. The gap is just too big without the later, Hellenistic and Roman era gene flow. At the same time, however, I think you are right that there was a constant trickling in too. A lot of samples hint at this kind of slow effect, just like the Northern shift in Italy didn't end with the migration period, but continued with slow trickling in from Central Europe directly and indirectly from Northern Italy to Southern Italy.
By the way, I wondered about the Molise sampels and their special case, but I guess some of it can be explained by the Slavic settlement in the region. Its interesting to compre Molise with Marche. There are just 2 samples form Molise, but these have above average Slavic admixture, while the Marche samples have one with higher Slavic, but the rest being more Celto-Germanic shifted in comparison. Quite interesting, but probably the result of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats
Does anyone know results of "full blooded" Molise Slavs? If such even exist up to this point.
Basing an analysis on the tiny percentage of Molise Slavs doesn't seem very helpful. Also, could you provide historical context for the "slow trickling in" from Central Europe into Italy after the Migration Period.
Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jovialis
If we look at Maciamo's Genetic Analysis of ancient Europeans and West Asians we see that while Gauls/Belgae and Hallstatt Celts have only 9pc-10pc of Caucasus, Etruscans and Latins have nearly 20pc of the "Caucasus" component from Dodecad 12b.
Anglo-Saxons,Suebi/Alemanni and Lombards have only 2pc to 7pc.
There were e.g. many mercenaries and artisans, but in some regions even settlers and magistrates, which came in from German speaking territories. There are various articles and historical accounts for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angela
Their context might be "special", but its interesting nevertheless that some of the samples from Medieval Rome in the Renaissance period were basically French-German too. The most striking sample being R1219, which carries E-V13 also, which seems to have additional Slavic admixture (plus the Germanic), so being even more clearly Central European/German related, minimum half:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-CTS1273/
Compare also with the paper: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aay6826
They might be Swiss mercenaries or who knows, but there were many instances of German-French people coming to Italy.
I'll certainly buy the "WHO KNOWS?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Riverman
I asked for LINKS to papers, not hearsay from who knows where...
After all this time you really think some mercenaries are going to change the autosomal profile of a people? Really?
I think you've forgotten or don't understand the significance of the fact that Rome was the center of Christendom. We have documentation in my area for an Archbishop of Canterbury taking the Via Francigena to Rome to make a request of the Pope. All of those Franco-German samples were undoubtedly political envoys, churchmen seeking benefices or pilgrims. You honestly think it makes sense to base a population genetics analysis on the burial from the rampant disease and banditry of samples like those?
This is not a serious, scientific analysis.
As for Swiss, Bavarians or French migrating into Italy the only ones of which I'm aware were into neighboring areas, i.e. far northern, northeastern, and northwestern areas, i.e. EXTREMELY localized, and therefore irrelevant for "Italian" ethnogenesis as a whole. We have papers showing how localized and isolated those groups were if you don't recall.
I am beyond tired of unsubstantiated, a-scientific and a-historical, pseudo-analysis of Italian genetic history.