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  1. This study is very basic. A lot of the...

    This study is very basic.

    A lot of the inferences are wrong or at the very least not very precise, probably because they're simply based on modern samples and ADMIXTURE, which is not a formal...
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    The samples aren't labeled so its hard to know...

    The samples aren't labeled so its hard to know who they represent, but it doesn't hurt to speculate as long as the analysis is correct.

    You're the one screwing up, because you don't understand...
  3. Here's the problem; the ancient genomes aren't...

    Here's the problem; the ancient genomes aren't Dodecad samples, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

    Please try and understand this. It's really not very complicated. This is the basic rule:
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  4. The PCA results are backed up with f3 formal...

    The PCA results are backed up with f3 formal stats and UNBIASED admixture results.

    The Dodecad results you used for your write up are biased. They're biased because of the calculator effect.
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  5. They couldn't have changed the character of mtDNA...

    They couldn't have changed the character of mtDNA H across Europe too much, because they didn't carry much mtDNA H. Their contribution is better seen in the rising levels of U4, U5, U2, and I in much...
  6. The fact that most of the modern mtDNA H...

    The fact that most of the modern mtDNA H diversity and distribution was established in Europe by the middle Neolithic doesn't contradict the fact that there was no mtDNA turnover in Europe 6,000...
  7. I never claimed there was a major turnover of...

    I never claimed there was a major turnover of mtDNA 6,000 years ago. You did and the evidence is in the posts above.



    No, the authors very obviously state that the major portion of European...
  8. Holy shit. Is English your first language or not?...

    Holy shit. Is English your first language or not?


    The paper says exactly what the abstract says. This is the part from the abstract that you're not getting.





    So let's break this down:
  9. Let me try and explain again. Your...

    Let me try and explain again.

    Your understanding of the study:

    Europe's modern mtDNA signature was largely established about 6000 years ago, in the mid Neolithic, by people of an unknown origin...
  10. No, the study doesn't say that. It says that...

    No, the study doesn't say that. It says that Europe's modern mtDNA signature was largely established about 6000 years ago as a result of migrations into Europe during the early Neolithic.

    However,...
  11. Why don't you just use the K13 population...

    Why don't you just use the K13 population averages by turning them into WHG/ANE/EEF ratios?



    You seem extremely butthurt about something, so any discussion based on logic is pointless.

    But...
  12. What, you've never actually seen any academic...

    What, you've never actually seen any academic studies with obviously bogus results? I can show you several if you're really interested.

    Your constant whining and efforts to appeal to authority are...
  13. You can always run the EEF/WHG/ANE Excel test on...

    You can always run the EEF/WHG/ANE Excel test on these K13 averages.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQY2c2RW5hUlNvNzg/edit?usp=sharing
  14. In West Central Europe. This area has pretty much...

    In West Central Europe. This area has pretty much anything you can think of except the younger Central Asian subclades like L657 and stuff below that, simply because it hasn't been affected by...
  15. He posted an old study which relied on STRs to...

    He posted an old study which relied on STRs to measure variance. STRs are useless for that sort of thing, as we now know.

    It seems we're having a discussion with some people who can't grasp the...
  16. They can all be explained by movements from...

    They can all be explained by movements from Europe to Asia during the past 5,000 years.

    West Asia, including Kurdistan, was a very different place before the Indo-European and Turkic migrations...
  17. But we can determine that there was a population...

    But we can determine that there was a population movement from Europe to Asia during the Bronze Age, and judging by this latest study these people carried R1a-Z93.

    It's very annoying when a...
  18. The first paper ignores the fact that M417 can be...

    The first paper ignores the fact that M417 can be broken up into multiple subclades and that STR variance doesn't say anything useful about the geographic origins of haplogroups. In fact, it holds on...
  19. You obviously don't realise this, but you come...

    You obviously don't realise this, but you come across as psychotic. Have you ever considered some sort of professional therapy?

    Now, in regards to this and other recent studies, what we're...
  20. That R1a from the Lichtenstein caves is most...

    That R1a from the Lichtenstein caves is most likely an extinct or currently extremely rare form of R1a-Z280.
  21. Thread: Dodecad euro7

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    This test is useless for anyone who wasn't in the...

    This test is useless for anyone who wasn't in the original run that the allele frequencies came from.

    That's because most of the clusters are separated by low Fst (genetic) distances and this...
  22. lsqproject: YES doesn't correct for projection...

    lsqproject: YES doesn't correct for projection bias. It corrects for bias caused by a large number of missing SNPs. So all of the ancient samples on the PCA plots in the latest Lazaridis preprint are...
  23. Projection bias. Learn what it is before...

    Projection bias.

    Learn what it is before interpreting the PCA from this study.
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    Both samples look just fine as representatives of...

    Both samples look just fine as representatives of Iron Age Thrace. The only problem is the analysis. Refer to the comments at the link below, specifically this one...


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    No one brought this component. It's not even a...

    No one brought this component. It's not even a real ancestral component, just a composite of many things. It was created on the spot when the ANE-rich steppe people rushed into the Balkans and mixed...
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