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    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1102-0...

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1102-0
    In Sicily, steppe pastoralist ancestry arrived by ~2200 BC, in part from Iberia; Iranian-related ancestry arrived by the mid-second millennium BC,...
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    Bergamo is so not that far away from Albanians....

    Bergamo is so not that far away from Albanians.

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QJs5tV0H3t4/VIwY7BlNxyI/AAAAAAAAByQ/LakjgsBYRNc/s1600/2dkweaw.jpg
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    About Etruscans, there was never actual...

    About Etruscans, there was never actual historical evidence that indicates their Anatolian origin. The work of Herodotus was based on hypothesis and not actual recorded data, it is highly unlikely...
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    There is no strong evidence of a Greek...

    There is no strong evidence of a Greek colonization in Italy prior to the Archaic age, some cultural similarites in pottery cannot always be attributed to colonization.
    The first colony colonists...
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    Cretans are shifted 20% towards Levant compared...

    Cretans are shifted 20% towards Levant compared to Myceanans and Minoans in both academic and non academic PCAs it's even more for some other islands.
    On the other hand I have never seen historical...
  6. Bulgarians have 35% to 40% I2a-Slavic and slavic...

    Bulgarians have 35% to 40% I2a-Slavic and slavic R1a. Early Slavs were 2/3 to 3/4 of I2a and R1a but not entirely.
    Will we get to see them in the autosomal PCA? :)
  7. Is it the Slavic subclade?

    Is it the Slavic subclade?
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    Well I never mentioned it's Italians who say so...

    Well I never mentioned it's Italians who say so and I said nearly nothing more than Italian-speaking Greeks which was hyperbolic on my part but the exact claim that is that the vast majority of the...
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    I was talking about Anthrogenica.

    I was talking about Anthrogenica.
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    When I said western I was actually talking about...

    When I said western I was actually talking about Sardinia. I don't know which time frame exactly where they taken, expect they are from Bronze Age.
    https://i.imgur.com/l1MDlZ4.png

    From a...
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    Many Greek cities of Sicily were destroyed or...

    Many Greek cities of Sicily were destroyed or abandoned before and during the Roman occupation.
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    Most Carthaginians were driven out by the Romans....

    Most Carthaginians were driven out by the Romans. According to Wikipedia:
    They failed, and Rome was even more unrelenting in its annihilation of the invaders this time; Roman consul M. Valerian told...
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    Sicilians pre-Greek colonization

    From what I have heard is that before the Greek colonization ancient Sicilians were much more Western shifted. My hypothesis was that Sicily is a diverse region with many different (ancient)...
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    My point was that Ukrainians are more southern...

    My point was that Ukrainians are more southern shifted so I would expect them to be the closests to Peloponnesians compared to other Slavic groups in that study.

    Northern Slavs have absorbed...
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    Yes I wanted to mention that. I could believe it...

    Yes I wanted to mention that. I could believe it for Poles but for Ukrainians it seems a little strange.
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    Sicilians are practially overlapping a bit with...

    Sicilians are practially overlapping a bit with Tuscans (at least three triangles) in PC2. It's just that TSL is covering it.
    What TSL stand for?

    Greeks from Argolis come as 95% Sicilian-like...
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    Spartans were outnumbered by Helots, and they...

    Spartans were outnumbered by Helots, and they left little behind. But they were genetically, probably, the same as the other Peloponnesians and Athenians too IMO.
    As for Sicilians and South...
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    ^^ The Myceanean samples in that PCA look so...

    ^^ The Myceanean samples in that PCA look so heterogenous.
    I have heard that some Cental group of Anatolians clusters with Cypriots who are quite close to Coppadican Greeks. I believe Cappodican...
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    Thank you but I did not make the PCA. I found it...

    Thank you but I did not make the PCA. I found it in Anthrogenica. I don't know who the author this.
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    Angela, here two PCA including Sicilians as well...

    Angela, here two PCA including Sicilians as well as Empuries:
    https://i.imgur.com/2xPE1Cb.png
    https://i.imgur.com/j23RlkU.png

    As for Empuries, it was founded in Spain by the ancient Greeks...
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    Two samples? That's only one. The Ionian...

    Two samples? That's only one.
    The Ionian identified in the Classical age was identical to Myceaneans and I seriously doubt Dorians of Corinth or even Sparta were any different. And there might have...
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    Sicilians are not included. Sicilians are the...

    Sicilians are not included. Sicilians are the closests to Myceaneans from modern populations according to an other PCA similar to this but it didn't have Thracians, thus I choosed this one.
    IMO...
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    https://i.imgur.com/26jAzAY.png Bulgaria_IA is a...

    https://i.imgur.com/26jAzAY.png
    Bulgaria_IA is a Thracians.
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    Central Greek is an islander from Athens. ...

    Central Greek is an islander from Athens.
    Myceaneans plot slighty west of Sicilians but not as west as the Thracian.
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    Crete Armenoi is closer to Bulgarians than it is...

    Crete Armenoi is closer to Bulgarians than it is to Myceaneans, isn't that alarming enough that it is not an accurate model?
    As for the rest I agree the Epirotes and Macedonians might be closer to...
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