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    If PIE was located in the Steppe, it seems that...

    If PIE was located in the Steppe, it seems that either the lost "Mediterranean" language explanation would make the most sense since the Proto-Semitic word for wine is "wayn"...or perhaps these words...
  2. Well, it was found in an Armenian monastery in...

    Well, it was found in an Armenian monastery in Italy, but originally it is from Armenia or Turkey.
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    What are the Uralic words for "wine"

    The only "wine" word I can find in Uralic is Hungarian "bor" but apparently this is a loan from Persian. So what are actual Uralic words for "wine"?
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    Thanks. I'll go back and check that out.

    Thanks. I'll go back and check that out.
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    @Demetrios: What do you think about Chapter 7 in...

    @Demetrios: What do you think about Chapter 7 in this book (starting on page 217)?
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  6. I think Lchashen-Metsamor comprised of Armenians...

    I think Lchashen-Metsamor comprised of Armenians and then after 1000 BCE Scythians, or less likely Cimmerians, moved in. If I'm not wrong, that spoked wheel wagon is from like 1300-1200 BCE.
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    It's pretty clear to me that there was some sort...

    It's pretty clear to me that there was some sort of early Indo-European presence in the Caucasus region and also in northern Mesopotamia.

    Teshub could have originated from a Common Anatolian or...
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    Actually, as fas as the Mannaeans go--they seem...

    Actually, as fas as the Mannaeans go--they seem to have been Armenian or Iranian, or at least their ruling class was. It's generally thought that Mannae was multi-cultural, but names like Daiakku,...
  9. This seems to be basically what Reich suggests,...

    This seems to be basically what Reich suggests, but he places the original PIE homeland just south of the Caucasus rather than just north of the Caucasus.
  10. That's not what modern Hittiteologists are saying...

    That's not what modern Hittiteologists are saying though. See the video link for the Oriental Institute lecture that I posted above.

    The Hattic language is not Indo-European but according to the...
  11. Did the Hittites (or other Anatolian IEs) have a ...

    Did the Hittites (or other Anatolian IEs) have a word for "navel"/"hub"/"center"?
  12. Here's a link to video of last night's lecture,...

    Here's a link to video of last night's lecture, if anybody is interested:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe4jnBdVxjw
  13. Well, to my understanding, this new research,...

    Well, to my understanding, this new research, which is building off Damgaard's 2018 research, suggests that there was an infusion of Caucasus-linked ancestry into Asia Minor during the Neolithic, so...
  14. New studies says that Anatolian IEs came from East

    Researchers Matilde Serangeli and Thomas Orlander claim that the Proto-Anatolians came from Maykop in their new book Dispersals and Diversifications Linguistic and Archaeological Perspectives on the...
  15. Arame, do you still get on here ever? Any updates...

    Arame, do you still get on here ever? Any updates about the Trialeti genetic samples?
  16. I know that I'm a bit late to the party, maybe we...

    I know that I'm a bit late to the party, maybe we can resume it?

    Could the MLBA/MBA Steppe-derived "Armenians" actually be Indo-Iranians and not Armenian speakers? For example, the Mitanni ruling...
  17. Except this study says literally the exact...

    Except this study says literally the exact opposite of that.
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    Probably, via Hurro-Urartians and pre-PIEs, I...

    Probably, via Hurro-Urartians and pre-PIEs, I think, right? Lots of Armenian and Iranian (Kurdish, Zaza, etc) genetic influence in the east.
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    Interesting for Turkey too--the affinity to...

    Interesting for Turkey too--the affinity to modern Turks seems pretty even throughout Turkey (i.e. not too much), but western Turks (especially southwestern) are the Turks with the most actual...
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    I'm aware of this, but I have trouble believing...

    I'm aware of this, but I have trouble believing it considering that the city of Sarduriqurda was mentioned more than a century and a half prior to Iranian dominance in the region. If Armenian is...
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    I really liked this comment. Yeah, i do believe...

    I really liked this comment. Yeah, i do believe we should be contemplating the possibility of a southern route. It's just that we need genetics to back it up. Hopefully we will get a publication on...
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    Yes, Taru/Tarhu/Tahunna/Tarhunt, etc. ...

    Yes, Taru/Tarhu/Tahunna/Tarhunt, etc.

    Illuyanka was a dragon. And I didn't say Illuyanka. But I do think that Illuyanka may come from the same PIE *wel root as gel/gegh. Wel also meant "to turn,...
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    Aga, possibly, but it seems to come from a...

    Aga, possibly, but it seems to come from a different PIE root (*h₂egʰ-).

    For Angegh (a separate deity from Tork Angegh), a connection has been made to Nergal and Tarhu.
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    Okay, but that doesn't answer my question...

    Okay, but that doesn't answer my question regarding agos=Angegh.

    And if it were a loan from Armenian (note: I'm NOT saying that it is a loan from Armenian) it would be during the 2nd millennium...
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    My disapproval for a southern (Anatolian) route...

    My disapproval for a southern (Anatolian) route for proto-Greek, mainly has to do with the absence of steppe ancestry in all the Anatolian samples that have been tested till now, be it Chalcolithic...
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