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  1. To say the least!:awesome:

    To say the least!:awesome:
  2. Sticky: To change the subject, where exactly do the...

    To change the subject, where exactly do the North_Italian and Tuscan HGDP samples come from? Bergamo? Florence?
  3. On the Italian dataset,the Etruscans resemble NW...

    On the Italian dataset,the Etruscans resemble NW Italians (Brescia, Como, Savona etc)but with a certain pull towards Sardinians (Olbia/Nuoro).
    The modern Bolognese seem very variable, from CEU to...
  4. Is this an Apricity thread that's lost its way?

    Is this an Apricity thread that's lost its way?
  5. There's no lack of U152 in the recent Italic (or...

    There's no lack of U152 in the recent Italic (or Etruscan) samples!!!
  6. Florence was Caesar's colony Florentia, but...

    Florence was Caesar's colony Florentia, but nearby Fiesole is of Etruscan origin and much older.
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    Tarquinius Priscus married an aristocratic...

    Tarquinius Priscus married an aristocratic Etruscan lady called Tanaquil so even Etruscan nobles did marry people of foreign extraction.

    Maybe public office was confined to a fixed and limited...
  8. I thought Z36 was more Celtic. Why do you see it...

    I thought Z36 was more Celtic. Why do you see it as Italic/Roman?:confused2:
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    @Maciamo K36 maps for some of the most...

    @Maciamo

    K36 maps for some of the most characteristic Etruscan individuals and the North African outliers would be most appreciated.
  10. Sticky: The medieval Tuscan samples came from southern...

    The medieval Tuscan samples came from southern and central Tuscany and are typically central Italian like the Marche and Romagna but northern Tuscans shade more into NW Italians including Emilians.
  11. Of course they were.

    Of course they were.
  12. Delete. Already answered.

    Delete. Already answered.
  13. Figure S3 in the Supplementary Material compares...

    Figure S3 in the Supplementary Material compares C.Italy_Etruscan; C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu (more north-shifted); C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr (Outliers shifted towards North Africa); C.Italy_Imperial (Roman...
  14. Thinking back to Maciamo's neat summary of the...

    Thinking back to Maciamo's neat summary of the Boattini Y dna figures for northern Tuscany (and a bit of Liguria), provinces of La Spezia/Massa and Pistoia, R1b still comes in at 60-70pc, and little...
  15. The bolded part is important and the Y Dna and...

    The bolded part is important and the Y Dna and mtdna figures therein need to be compared to modern Tuscany and Northern Lazio.
    After all to the south, Etruria originally ended at Veii, just north of...
  16. Is a Y-dna sample of just NINE between 0-1000CE...

    Is a Y-dna sample of just NINE between 0-1000CE reliable as against 27 before the Common Era?
  17. +1:satisfied:

    +1:satisfied:
  18. Most Etruscans seem to have a pull towards...

    Most Etruscans seem to have a pull towards Sardinia and Southwest Europe.
  19. Why are South Italians and Sicilians shown as...

    Why are South Italians and Sicilians shown as having zero Baltic-like/Steppe?
  20. Interesting chart, but why are Sicilians and...

    Interesting chart, but why are Sicilians and South Italians shown without any Steppe at all?:confused2:

    Or is it just zero Baltic-like?
  21. Really?:confused2::rolleyes2:

    Really?:confused2::rolleyes2:
  22. I'd be extremely surprised if Poland was anywhere...

    I'd be extremely surprised if Poland was anywhere near that figure.:useless:
  23. Are N_Italian and North_Italian from different...

    Are N_Italian and North_Italian from different areas?
  24. Linguistically, the Lombards/Langobards may have...

    Linguistically, the Lombards/Langobards may have started off North Germanic (Scandinavian) in speech but were West Germanic like Alemans and Bavarians when they reached Italy.
  25. Precisely.

    Precisely.
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