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    Many regions being rather assimilated and only...

    Many regions being rather assimilated and only superficially Celticised, having picked up La Tene elements before the the tribal Celts came. In other regions, the actual La Tene Celtic impact was...
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    If combining these two ethnicities that way, its...

    If combining these two ethnicities that way, its not meant as a new group, but rather describes the fact that a people had both elements in the mix. And that was definitely the case in the Eastern...
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    Dacians and Thracians are "fake populations",...

    Dacians and Thracians are "fake populations", major archaeological formations like Channelled Ware or Bosut-Basarabi being "made up".
    Sure.

    Illyrians had E-V13, but
    ) secondarily acquired from...
  4. Its part of this thread, because the samples...

    Its part of this thread, because the samples found so far are comparatively low. But if you have new uniparentals or auDNA from the papers samples, please step forward :)
  5. I think that E-V13 is now higher in some former...

    I think that E-V13 is now higher in some former J-L283 core territories is obviously not fully, but partly explained by Germanics and especially Slavs coming in and bringing it from the Carpathian...
  6. I think E-V13 spread quite a bit with Slavs, but...

    I think E-V13 spread quite a bit with Slavs, but it did obviously not reach the percentages in some old core regions it had before. Because even if incoming Slavs had let's say about 10-20 percent...
  7. Absolutely agreed, was my impression too. But its...

    Absolutely agreed, was my impression too. But its rather surprising, somewhat, still, that E-V13 was not more common in the so far made samples. But this might be sampling bias from the study too,...
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    We're talking about patrilineages. R-L2 grew...

    We're talking about patrilineages. R-L2 grew massively with Tumulus while much of the Carpatho-Balkan sphere got just slaughtered and the demography collapsed. But the reason was indeed that they...
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    It could be different tribes, but it only...

    It could be different tribes, but it only corresponds to the first downturn - after which there was a very small uptick even. This is 200-300 years earlier and affects both E-V13 and J-L283, which...
  10. Thanks! More non-E-V13 haplogroup E than...

    Thanks!

    More non-E-V13 haplogroup E than E-V13 so far.

    Makes the older, known Viminacium samples more special kind of.
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    Why does it align for so many events and people...

    Why does it align for so many events and people nicely, but here we see a massive contradiction?

    The best you could argue for is that E-V13 and J-L283 were both in the more Southern Balkans, but...
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    This is not how lineages from the same founding...

    This is not how lineages from the same founding population behave.
    You can do the same for Germanics and Slavs. Very different.

    I am just using the same data and logic for all.
    Germanics were...
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    The problem is, that if we assume a going into...

    The problem is, that if we assume a going into synchrony and sharing fate means they interlocked and didn't leave again. Obviously, being both Carpatho-Balkan lineages, for the most part, they shared...
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    The first step is to trace down where the major...

    The first step is to trace down where the major modern Albanian lineages lived at which time, how they migrated and when they had major founder effects. Like we know for Proto-Germanics that I-M253...
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    Well, it's relative, but still a major leap...

    Well, it's relative, but still a major leap forward, not just for the light, but also the heavy cavalry.
    Of course no cataphracts or Medieval knights, but still.
    You have many depictions of cavalry...
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    Well, there is a factual core to some of those...

    Well, there is a factual core to some of those fantasy novels, like Gáva was among the first to produce iron, like Hawk said in Teleac fortress for example and the more advanced iron technology spread...
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    Cimmerians, Scythians and Sarmatians, all three...

    Cimmerians, Scythians and Sarmatians, all three came to the Western Pontic steppe and Carpathians, assimilated locals and those lineages did migrate with them in what we might call backflow. Quite...
  18. I would connect the comment on those with the one...

    I would connect the comment on those with the one from Wels. At the moment it looks like Northern-Central Italy was seriously affected by the "Imperial Roman" migration pattern we saw for other...
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    It's one theory I think, others include Scythian...

    It's one theory I think, others include Scythian influences too. Also interesting is the fairly significant and diverse presence of E-V13 in Armenians. Percentage wise not that big, but more than...
  20. Most areas in which people fully adopted the...

    Most areas in which people fully adopted the Roman way of living had a demographic standstill or shrinkage. The birth rates were low, the mortality high. So I would assume that people which were not...
  21. If you look at the downward trend when Gáva...

    If you look at the downward trend when Gáva expanded, the reason for the start of the migration over the Adriatic should be pretty clear, its the pressure from the North. Later, they pushed Gáva-related...
  22. By the way, J-L283 didn't bad in the Roman era,...

    By the way, J-L283 didn't bad in the Roman era, better than E-V13 relatively, much better. They seem to have suffered most from the Celts. And we now know why, because just look at all those R-U152...
  23. We see the R-L2 dominated people to be the...

    We see the R-L2 dominated people to be the leading element in the Tumulus culture invasion of Pannonia and the Balkans and they just crushed into the local populations and caused a massive...
  24. The question is also, considering the massive...

    The question is also, considering the massive dent J-L283 had in the early Tumulus culture/Koszider horizon phase, from which region and groups it did recover and retake ground.
    Like we might, for...
  25. The block is large and well-documented enough to...

    The block is large and well-documented enough to call it Illyrians. If those samples were no actual Illyrians, who was? They had the same artefacts, the same burial rite, even close contacts between...
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