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  1. What are the conclusions? What did we learn from...

    What are the conclusions? What did we learn from this paper? I read it and I was waiting for a Conclusions or Discussion heading.
  2. So out of 4 samples they are 4 E-V13, possibly...

    So out of 4 samples they are 4 E-V13, possibly related. Come back when they have 100's of samples. So no R-Z2103 in Thrace? It's everywhere else in the Balkans but not in Thrace?
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    My genetic groups are Greeks, Romanians,...

    My genetic groups are Greeks, Romanians, Bulgarians and Eastern Europeans (Ukranians, Belarussians), with confidence levels of High, medium, low and low which is surprising to me since I expected...
  4. All Thracians EV13? Where did you get that info?

    All Thracians EV13? Where did you get that info?
  5. There is nothing wrong with using the label...

    There is nothing wrong with using the label Pelasgian for EEF/CHG/Iran Neo natives.
  6. Pretty close to Apulia and Abruzzo though :grin:....

    Pretty close to Apulia and Abruzzo though :grin:. My note was that Greek_Lemnos was the closest of all the Greek Areas to ETR001 not that it was especially close to it.
  7. Unless we know what the bug is and whether its...

    Unless we know what the bug is and whether its results are used downstream we won't know the impact on the overall program. Then we have to consider if it was used in studies and the resultant...
  8. Lemnos was invaded by the Athenians and...

    Lemnos was invaded by the Athenians and hellenized by them after 510 BC. Before then they were speaking a language that has a lot of commonality with the Etruscan language. Thucydides mention...
  9. Does not anybody else find it interesting that...

    Does not anybody else find it interesting that the closest Greek area to the ETR001 sample is Lemnos? Lemnos has long been associated with Erturia at least linguistically. Was Lemnos an Etruscan...
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    Yep, same as Jewish and Muslim religion.

    Yep, same as Jewish and Muslim religion.
  11. What do you expect? These are graduate students...

    What do you expect? These are graduate students that wrote the code, they are not professional programmers. Even professional programmers make mistakes. We do code the way we did code in the 70's....
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    All of a sudden, I have Magyar percentage and...

    All of a sudden, I have Magyar percentage and Malta percentage when I did not have any before. Granted it's less that 2% Magyar and 4% Malta. I also have 6% Armenian/Anatolia/Mesopotamia.

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    And we both like to talk with our hands and are...

    And we both like to talk with our hands and are loud and expressive and loving.
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    Greeks were not totally homogeneous. There were...

    Greeks were not totally homogeneous. There were of different tribes or clans. Then they mixed with the locals and we don't know how differentiated they were from each other.
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    Not like we have thousands of samples from each...

    Not like we have thousands of samples from each ancient historical period from each inch of land. Be patient the samples are coming, 2 here, 4 there, 3 elsewhere.
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    There were a few different Gothic groups in the...

    There were a few different Gothic groups in the Balkans, the Thracian Goths, the Moesian Goths and the Pannonian Goths. Goths were also settled in Macedonia. They were part of the Ostrogoths and...
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    Yeah, people don't understand how few samples are...

    Yeah, people don't understand how few samples are actually usable from all the tombs. Then you have funding issues and graduate student schedules, etc.
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    The study in the Youtube video is from Ambrakia,...

    The study in the Youtube video is from Ambrakia, a colony of the Corinthians in Epirus. There were only two Y-DNA haplogroups identified, one r1b and the other G. There was damage to the other male...
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    Both historical schools are wrong because the...

    Both historical schools are wrong because the truth lies in between those two viewpoints.
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    According to Strabo the Thracians occupied...

    According to Strabo the Thracians occupied Attica. According to Herodotus the Pelasgians were the original Athenian dwellers.
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    Yeah, I am not aware of any Pelasgian...

    Yeah, I am not aware of any Pelasgian archaeological, anthropological or genetic studies. We only have the writings of Ancient Greek and Roman authors which are contradictory. Here is what Strabo...
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    I can't wait to hear his evidence. If it is...

    I can't wait to hear his evidence. If it is linguistics, forget it. So much quackery!
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    So the ancient Greeks that were 800-1000 years...

    So the ancient Greeks that were 800-1000 years removed got it wrong but somebody 3500 years removed with no evidence is right? OK. Now I don't think that everything that Herodotus or other...
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    People have to remember that the Greeks...

    People have to remember that the Greeks encountered both Pelasgians and Thracians in mainland Grece when they came down.
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    Or locals that changed their language or...

    Or locals that changed their language or religion. Genetics are one thing, language and religion is another. Now once you speak the same language and have the same religion it's easier to get...
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