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Seriously. People were celebrating this false date like they scored a huge win against the Nazis or something. It was bizarre.

This as got to be Alan, Goga, or a close associate.

I don't know how this is speculative.



And this is not.



Doesn't really matter. Still puts PIE in Eneolithic Steppe I guess, but I'm really seeing corded ware and maybe even Bell Beaker...

Bingo.

This is why I've held that PIE was Pre-yamnaya. I think Yamnaya was some form of proto-Indo-Iranian already as I've beat to death during my history on this site.

Not only that but we see...

This. I wouldn't put too much on the dash of Siberian we see in EHG and Eneolithic Steppe samples, and I definitely wouldn't think it's enough to say that populations with samples that have this...

Yes. Recall that "CHG" is just ANE (drifted) that had moved South during the LGM and mixed with Basal Eurasian populations. So the CHG that ends up on the steppe by 4500BC could very well have been...

Wet earwax and high alcohol tolerance. I'm pretty sure this is a very west eurasian combination

Aegean is what the archaeology strongly suggested as well so when taken together with the DNA it's a home run, which also probably means that the Sea Peoples were from the Aegean too. This not only...

Yes

And LOL

Wait, is this different from the Yana samples? New data?

Perhaps at this point it's hard not to view these reports through such a lens of skepticism for ideological/nationalistic motivations.

The most simple answer is that the archaeological context...

Well it's not necessarily descended from the Yamnaya subclades. It's still possible that there was another non-steppe earlier source ancestral to both, but at this juncture it really looks like like...

Finally. Well looks like it can be traced right back to Yamnaya then. Less interesting, but less confusing too I guess.

That is a TON of archaic in Mende. Wow. And that's old archaic too.

He's also right in the spot where Corded Ware likely originated from 6000 years later

I like the Mitanni idea probably via Sintashta Iranian speakers (Indo-Iranian perhaps).

I think this is new, although there may be a thread about the pre-print. It's hard for me to keep track of when we had discussed pre-prints months before the actual publication.
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I think this is just one of the models that shot out of the algo, that ANE has CHG ancestry. Perhaps this paper was written before they read the Dzudzuana paper.

It seems more likely that there...

In the Dzudzuana paper they were saying that CHG/Iranian Neolithic was likely just a result of ANE moving South during the cold snap and admixing with Dzudzuana plus more basal/deep lineage (I...

Wow, the arctic was being utilized 30k years ago. That is pretty amazing, and the people were a very West Eurasian population of about 500. Can you imagine your entire world being 500 people? I knew...

Some weird posts in here.

Finally had a minute to pour over this glorious paper.

Epoch's post above is related to where I was getting hung up, but it looks like it was just a matter of how they interpreted the different...

Seriously? You believe you have just discovered the BE homeland?

Oooo sassy

I agree with this, but mine was just on a hunch based on the Farmers paper.