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    Sticky: Here's an obscurely famous or famously obscure...

    Here's an obscurely famous or famously obscure I2:

    Col. Michael Christian Garber (1813-1881), a Virginian by birth who became a Free Soil newspaper publisher in Madison, Indiana and an early...
  2. Consider this in light of one linguist's...

    Consider this in light of one linguist's suggestion that written Sumerian contains traces of an even earlier Indo-European language:

    http://www.science.org.ge/2-3/Gordon%20Whitteker.pdf
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    Sticky: George Washington Carver's adoptive father Moses...

    George Washington Carver's adoptive father Moses Carver was of a line of Carvers said to be of German descent originally from Pennsylvania by way of North Carolina. Since Carver is a known variant...
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    There are actually two individuals in the FTDNA...

    There are actually two individuals in the FTDNA I2c project who claim this descent. They have a genetic distance of 3 out of 67 markers, so they are not closely related. We can't be sure that...
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    The three noble Armenian families I can identify...

    The three noble Armenian families I can identify in the FTDNA project (Prince Hasan Jalal Dawla and the two Meliks) are in clusters A and D, while the Georgian Donauri is in cluster K. So the I2C...
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    I notice that a 2005 study of Cyprus shows...

    I notice that a 2005 study of Cyprus shows haplogroup I at 7.7% (clades not given). Given the island's history, I would guess that a fair bit of it is Armenian and therefore I2c.
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    Thank you, Bodin. The Balkans I thought were the...

    Thank you, Bodin. The Balkans I thought were the weakest link in my hypothesis. The question then is whether the y-dna STR data there supports an Armenian descent for the Balkan I2c's.

    Sparkey,...
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    I'm not sure there is a connection between I2c...

    I'm not sure there is a connection between I2c Armenians and the Venetians so much as that they both chose the same real estate (the maritime fringe of the Ottoman Empire) for differing reasons: the...
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    According to the source this emigration began to...

    According to the source this emigration began to take place with the partition of the Armenian kingdom in 387 AB, before the Bulgars entered Macedonia. At time the kingdom occupied this area:
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    It therefore looks like the I2c presence in the...

    It therefore looks like the I2c presence in the eastern Mediterranean is [edit: may be] specifically a signature of the Armenian diaspora.

    [edit: I'm going even further out on a limb here, but the...
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    One area of concentration in the I2c map which...

    One area of concentration in the I2c map which can't easily be accounted for by the presence of Armenians in trading colonies is Macedonia. However there is also this:

    "The long-winding military...
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    It's interesting that Armenian recorded history...

    It's interesting that Armenian recorded history begins right about the time that Nordtvedt dates the split of their cluster. Another thing is that they began to go into diaspora in the 11th century...
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    Nice maps. The presence of I2c in the Caucasus...

    Nice maps. The presence of I2c in the Caucasus as well as in the south Germany/Alpine region makes me wonder if it might have spread with G2a at some point.
  14. I'm skeptical of the thesis. It's one thing to...

    I'm skeptical of the thesis. It's one thing to say that there is insufficient evidence to support the migration theory as the primary cause for the spread of IE; to categorically state that...
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    You sound like a J1. :wink:

    You sound like a J1. :wink:
  16. Thread: New R1a map

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    If that is the case one would expect these...

    If that is the case one would expect these relative proportions to be a snapshot of the population mixture prior to the R1B incursions. But.......only 2.5% I2??
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    I always like to try and work out the story told...

    I always like to try and work out the story told by these maps. The overall picture seems to follow the migration narrative, showing a tide flowing west out of the Ukrainian steppes and lapping up...
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    I guess I own my ethnocultural identity in...

    I guess I own my ethnocultural identity in layers.

    1. North American - all of my family lines of descent have been in either the US or Canada since well before either country existed in its...
  19. I question that. The same used to be assumed...

    I question that. The same used to be assumed about the British Celts vis a vis the invading Anglo Saxons, but dna research has drawn a picture more of intermarriage and cultural absorption rather...
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    One very common expression in English which I...

    One very common expression in English which I believe comes from Norman French is "me too" <= the Norman "moé itou". Still used in Haitian creole and Quebec joual, where many believe it is a...
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    I've read that Hindis speak English with a Welsh...

    I've read that Hindis speak English with a Welsh cadence because of the influence of mission schools staffed by Welsh missionaries.

    Speaking of which, the Amish around Kitchener-Waterloo have a...
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    It looks like Tibetan. Check this link and...

    It looks like Tibetan. Check this link and compare: http://en-gb.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2235944298&topic=2920
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    How about vielleicht ("maybe") or English belike...

    How about vielleicht ("maybe") or English belike ("probably")?
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    I've read about the Goods and found it quite...

    I've read about the Goods and found it quite interesting. Do they have any close matches in other surnames or from around the Mediterranean?
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