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    thanks The paper does say we know that ...

    thanks

    The paper does say
    we know that they were
    mainly farmers, animal breeders, horsemen and maritime traders with an established trade network
    extending across the sea with Illyrian...
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    see post #18

    see post #18
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    you have some E-V13 in these croatian ( liburnian...

    you have some E-V13 in these croatian ( liburnian -dalmatian areas )


    R1a-M17 ... 31%
    I2a-Y3120 ... 25%
    R1b ... 16%
    J2 ... 12%
    G2a-P15 ... 7%
    E1b-V13 ... 4%
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    The paper says affinity with iron-age Croatians ...

    The paper says affinity with iron-age Croatians ..................it does not say affinity with iron-age Bosnians or Montenegrians

    I think we should check sample R1 and see if she , who was born...
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    Seems like ancient Daunians should be C7 and as...

    Seems like ancient Daunians should be C7 and as they moved further south into the heel absorbed Italic tribes who where C6 ..............only explanation unless you want to say the paper is wrong
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    I have never seen notes on Dalmatians prior to...

    I have never seen notes on Dalmatians prior to 500BC ....but have seen notes on Liburnians from 1100Bc ..................Are the dalmatians a branch of Liburnians or did they come from a branch of...
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    what the ancients say about the Liburnians ...

    what the ancients say about the Liburnians

    LIBURNI Eth. LIBURNI (Λιβυρνοί, Scyl. p. 7; Strab. vi. p.269, vii. p. 317; Appian, App. Ill. 12; Steph. B. sub voce Schol. ad Nicand. 607: Pomp. Mela,...
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    As I have been saying for many year...

    As I have been saying for many year ...........Daunians and the other messapic linguistic tribes come from the north-adriatic

    Within the described Pan Mediterranean landscape, the IAA/Daunians...
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    The genetic origin of Daunians

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.30.454498v1.full.pdf

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.30.454498v1

    for Salento
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    Distance to: Vettor15 6.29516278 ...

    Distance to:
    Vettor15



    6.29516278

    North_Italian
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    Target: Vettor15 Distance: 1.4071% / 1.40714444...

    Target: Vettor15
    Distance: 1.4071% / 1.40714444 | ADC: 0.25x RC





    56.5
    IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
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    I wonder if the Panozzo of the tyrolese-italian...

    I wonder if the Panozzo of the tyrolese-italian line is linked with the Panz line ????????????????
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    further down the rabbit hole The Italian...

    further down the rabbit hole

    The Italian Tyrolese /Swede match is via surname Holler, through Gruber ..............this line went through to the Panz family of 1775 from Liebenau, Austria


    The...
  14. Where did you see La tene Gauls original...

    Where did you see La tene Gauls original homelands are near Halsatt ( which is in modern East Austria ) ?

    The celts owned all of Central and Southern Germany
    The celtic "capital" was in Glauberg...
  15. Halstatt celts and La Tene celts are more than...

    Halstatt celts and La Tene celts are more than 400 years separated...........there is no evidence they are even the same people ..............400 years can bring a lot of ethnic changes

    The Irish...
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    Arabs never met the Carthaginians .......they...

    Arabs never met the Carthaginians .......they where extinct 900 years earlier , before the Arabs entered north Africa

    I doubt there are many Arabs even that went beyond Libya as history states the...
  17. I have seen this as well .................the...

    I have seen this as well .................the issue is that the Principality of Zeta ruled much of the Gheg lands , so venetians dealt with the lords of Zeta separately

    The Ghegs where then ruled...
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    some say the Karsdorf 3 x T samples are cousins...

    some say the Karsdorf 3 x T samples are cousins with the 2 x T bulgarian samples........did you find this to be true ?
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    Kars537 ( 6958 ± 49 yBP ) House/Phase: O / 2...

    Kars537 ( 6958 ± 49 yBP )


    House/Phase: O / 2
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197 (xBY154289)
    mtDNA: J1c6a
    Sr isotope: Native to Unstruttal ( Rang Group limit )
    Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0): -19.7 / 8.9 (highest...
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    my map from myheritage ...

    my map from myheritage

    https://i.postimg.cc/F1XsR5nZ/my-map1650.png

    I have been in contact with a German recently in trying to find a link in the map for me.

    I have found a link with 2...
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    The 2 x Dalmatian samples are always linked to...

    The 2 x Dalmatian samples are always linked to the bavarian bell_Beaker sample

    and

    R1 ( female ) sample in Marche Italy is always linked with SZ1 sample and other ancient Hungarians

    What...
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    k12 Log02 Helladic-Logkas-MBA Dodecad...

    k12


    Log02 Helladic-Logkas-MBA

    Dodecad K12b
    Code:
    Log02,3.52,1.05,0,0,34.06,18.89,0,0.3,7.61,0,32.2,2.37
    Distance to: x
    6.05795873 Italian_Marche
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    k15 ...

    k15

    Log02,16.47,23.42,2.11,0,18.51,9.62,22.87,3.59,0,0,0,0.43,1.83,0,1.16

    Distance to: Log02
    7.40096615 Tuscan
    7.69314630 France_Corsica
    7.82740059 Italy_Tuscany
    8.34017386 ...
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    Log02 Helladic-Logkas-MBA K36 Distance...

    Log02 Helladic-Logkas-MBA

    K36

    Distance to: x
    1.59500972 IT_Ladinia ................south-Tyrol alps
    1.67668337 FR_Provence
    1.68069543 IT_Umbria
    1.71909086 IT_Abruzzo
    1.72958390 IT_Liguria
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    Log02 is a female Pta08; 2849-2621 BC; Petras;...

    Log02 is a female

    Pta08; 2849-2621 BC; Petras; Greece; Minoan_EBA; G2a2b-L30>CTS574>CTS2488>P303>pre-L140 (PF3337+, L140-)

    Kou01; 2464-2349 BC; Koufonisi; Greece; Cycladic_EBA;...
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