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  1. Not really. J1 is Western Asian in origin. The...

    Not really. J1 is Western Asian in origin. The map looks way more E1b situated.
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    Here are mine. I was surprised at the 2% North...

    Here are mine. I was surprised at the 2% North African until I realize that ALL Southern Europeans (judging from the Dodecad results) get anywhere between 0-7% North/Northwest African (non-black). It...
  3. [QUOTE=Fire Haired14;483193] I forgot your...

    I forgot your answer. I think it was a "yes, Europeans can have J1e as well".
  4. "Professor Alberto Piazza, from the University of...

    "Professor Alberto Piazza, from the University of Turin, Italy, will say that there is overwhelming evidence that the Etruscans, whose brilliant civilisation flourished 3000 years ago in what is now...
  5. I came out as pretty European when I took the...

    I came out as pretty European when I took the autosomal tests. Barely any foreign admixture.

    My signature came out as closest resembling Northern Italians and Tuscans on almost EVERY test so I...
  6. [QUOTE=Fire Haired14;483193] So basically what I...

    So basically what I am if I go far back enough.

    I do have significant Neolithic Farmer ancestry. I took a GEDmatch that ran European Hunter/Gatherer vs Mediterranean Farmer and you should've seen...
  7. No records or anything.

    No records or anything.
  8. Just as someone with haplogroup J has European...

    Just as someone with haplogroup J has European ancestry that came from the Middle East.

    African haplogroups and Asian haplogroups are more Isolated. European haplogroups are all over the map.
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  9. It might not even be Semitic at all, some say, if...

    It might not even be Semitic at all, some say, if it came from Caucasus/Iran like the previous poster said. We will never know whether it was a Semitic speaking person or not. It could've entered...
  10. I thought Europeans ONLY descended from Neolithic...

    I thought Europeans ONLY descended from Neolithic Europeans, Hunter Gatherers, and Ancient Northern Eurasians, and nobody else. Apparently they also descend from ancient Iranians and people from the...
  11. There are some areas of mainland Italy that have...

    There are some areas of mainland Italy that have J1 up to 7%. Almost 10%.

    Sicily, Greece, and Malta are other European countries with sizable percentages. Agrigento, Sicily, has 12%. That's quite...
  12. Fair enough. I had a few questions though. ...

    Fair enough.

    I had a few questions though.

    1) Neolithic Europeans must've spoken SOME form of Semitic language seeing as they came from Mesopotamia which is right beside the Levant in modern...
  13. Patrizio! My fathers side is from Marche as...

    Patrizio!

    My fathers side is from Marche as well from the town of Fano.

    I have J1-L858. Which is a downstream of P-58. Does this mean that we are both Neolithic or is it Semitic?\

    We could...
  14. Makes sense. I just find it funny how it's also...

    Makes sense. I just find it funny how it's also Sub-Saharan African along with Western European.
  15. Well people always say they are. I'm just...

    Well people always say they are. I'm just correcting a misunderstanding.

    Don't people who have J1 and J2 in Europe have it because of the Phoenicians?

    That is my question. No need to get upset.
  16. Why is J1 not considered a European haplogroup?

    I never got why J1-P58 is considered non-European while J2 is considered European. The haplogroups are brothers.

    Both J1 and J2 came into contact with Semitic speaking people in the Middle East,...
  17. To my knowledge, R1b never went into the Levant....

    To my knowledge, R1b never went into the Levant. J1 and J2, did.

    I'm thinking my J1 and the J1 and J2 of many other Southern Europeans could be Phoenician originally.
  18. The Neolithic Farmers would've brought J1 and J2...

    The Neolithic Farmers would've brought J1 and J2 from Turkey and Mesopotamia into the Levant to the Phonecians, and then those Phonecians would've been the ancient Near Eastern ancestors of Greek and...
  19. Are lots of Greeks and Italians descendants of ancient Phonecians?

    I had a question about the J1 and J2 haplogroups regarding Phonecians and Southern Europeans.

    Are the ancient Semitic speaking Phoenicians responsible for lots of J1 and J2 in and around Southern...
  20. I don't think it's Moorish/Jewish since those...

    I don't think it's Moorish/Jewish since those were mostly in Iberia (Spain and Portugal), not Central Italy. I think that's the least likely possibility.. It could be Phoenician/Greek or Neolithic....
  21. Well, J1 means my fathers line came from the...

    Well, J1 means my fathers line came from the Middle East correct? Not much different from other Europeans. Anything in the "J" haplogroup means Near Eastern origin.

    According to the Wikipedia...
  22. Thread: J1 subclade?

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    Interesting. I'm an Italian who scored...

    Interesting.

    I'm an Italian who scored positive for a version of P58, called L829, that branches off into a European version and a Middle Eastern Version.
  23. Y DNA J1 and J2 - Semetic/Neolithic Farmers and Mesopotamia. European J-P58.

    I've been researching my haplogroup which is J1. I was surprised to learn I was J1 since J2 is much more common amongst Southern Europeans even though J1 is common in some areas of Southern Europe....
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    Do all Europeans have Semetic admixture?

    Whenever any European runs the Dodecad or Eurogenes calculator they will end up getting a % of Southwest Asian, or Red Sea. At least, most of the Europeans that I see.

    SW Asian and Red Sea...
  25. Thread: J1 subclade?

    by MINDustry
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    Are you native Austrian or Jewish Austrian? I...

    Are you native Austrian or Jewish Austrian? I have a 23andme to but how do you run the ISOGG tree?
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