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  1. ^^FYI this is actually with G13, but that is the...

    ^^FYI this is actually with G13, but that is the more advanced version of the dodecad calculator. Based on what I have seen, Dodecad 12b is even worse for these HGs.
  2. Another issue with using modern populations is...

    Another issue with using modern populations is that it is not reliable in determining percentages for these populations. Because the calculator measures admixture within the frame of modern...
  3. https://i.imgur.com/KQzRn2j.png I generally...

    https://i.imgur.com/KQzRn2j.png

    I generally believe this is the case, in regards to Ancient Greeks mixing with Italics.

    But also take a look at R437.
  4. You see a noticeable rise of Caucasian and...

    You see a noticeable rise of Caucasian and Anatolian admixture from British and Nordic IA to their modern populations:


    https://i.imgur.com/AAx1Y72.png
  5. Modern Caucasian populations can be modeled with...

    Modern Caucasian populations can be modeled with a fair amount of Anatolian_N, and Steppe ancestry within and of itself:

    http://i.imgur.com/I6ZWkwE.png
  6. I wish there was a calculator that had academic...

    I wish there was a calculator that had academic components based on ancient source populations, rather than having to rely on outmoded constructs based on modern populations.
  7. It should also be noted that the steppe-related...

    It should also be noted that the steppe-related CHG/IN in Europe is subsumed in other components in this calculator. Steppe ancestry is 40% CHG - 60% EHG, which technically makes Norwegians the most...
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    I don't follow what this would have to do with my...

    I don't follow what this would have to do with my previous post in regards to the demographic shifts of central Italy in late antiquity and the middle ages.
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    Must be due to it being a poor calculator. I...

    Must be due to it being a poor calculator. I don't care about what kind of chicanery can be produced by dubious pseudonymous laymen.


    Also, as your friend pointed out, Levant_BA are half...
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    Oh please! Don't start with that one. Ancient...

    Oh please! Don't start with that one. Ancient Greeks do not have Levantine ancestry, I don't know how much clearer the paper, or anyone else can make it. Speaking the truth is an insult!?
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    So what?! Obama is half-white, does that make...

    So what?! Obama is half-white, does that make mullatos one in the same as Anglo-Saxons?
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    Frankly, I am getting sick and tired of your...

    Frankly, I am getting sick and tired of your confusion.

    Also, don't think I didn't see your comment before you changed it.

    Maybe you should stop PROJECTING the fact that differences makes you...
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    How does this make any sense for you to say?...

    How does this make any sense for you to say? Pointing out that people are different determines preference? That's quite inflammatory, and uncalled for.

    "the Greeks were not Levantines but they...
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    ^^Honestly, who cares, other than people trying...

    ^^Honestly, who cares, other than people trying to make a point of claiming them? What truly defines the levant is absent in Greeks, despite their similarities. It is like saying Dominicans are...
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    https://i.imgur.com/0nEoquq.png ...

    https://i.imgur.com/0nEoquq.png

    https://i.imgur.com/q7Srzpc.png

    Here is why the Eastern Model may be viable imo:

    An excerpt from David Reich's book:

    https://i.imgur.com/iG2UgcM.jpg
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    It means watch your attitude. I suggest we move...

    It means watch your attitude. I suggest we move on from this frivolous argument, and get back on topic. Starting with the very next post in this thread.


    Also, discussing an Eastern or Northern...
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    Indeed, Tuscans do not overlap with Albanians,...

    Indeed, Tuscans do not overlap with Albanians, they are to the "west" of them genetically.
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    Yes, Albanians have an affinity to Myceneans too,...

    Yes, Albanians have an affinity to Myceneans too, nobody is denying that. Albeit less of an affinity, than Southern Greeks and Southern Italians. But a relatively strong one nonetheless.

    ...
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    Of course I understand the difference, what is...

    Of course I understand the difference, what is revealing is your hard headed comprehension of what I am saying. I advise you to watch yourself here.
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    I'm not accusing you of hate, it was a general...

    I'm not accusing you of hate, it was a general statement.
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    That is not what the study suggests: Modern...

    That is not what the study suggests:

    Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not...
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    Tuscans and Albanians have comparable source...

    Tuscans and Albanians have comparable source population rates, but they became that way due to different migration events in history and pre-history.

    Of course, there is no Slavic admixture in...
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    Balkanization has truly poisoned the minds and...

    Balkanization has truly poisoned the minds and spirits of many in the region, you guys have more in common than you think. Forget about the hatred, and learn to get along with one another.
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    I'm not an expert in these semantics. What I do...

    I'm not an expert in these semantics. What I do know is that they are extremely similar in terms of genetic affinity from what I have seen. From genetic calculators, and genetic studies. I know that...
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    Here is my full comment Albanians and...

    Here is my full comment



    Albanians and Greeks are far more similar than people from these far reaching areas.
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