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    yes,y16729

    yes,y16729
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    It seems to me that the theories of Gimbutas are...

    It seems to me that the theories of Gimbutas are once again valid and, all the descendants of V13, who probably had a homeland on the middle Danube, dispersed with the Indo-European invasions /...
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    Hello, thanks for the help to the understanding...

    Hello, thanks for the help to the understanding of the result. I have done the analysis with a "panel SNP" then I will follow the way you indicated. I come from a notoriously Ligurian area, where the...
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    hello, I received the test yesterday and...

    hello, I received the test yesterday and unexpectedly belong to haplogroup Y16729. Dress in northern Italy and my ancestors come from the Emilia Apennines near the Liguria region. They are well...
  5. As for v13, you can not have deeper clades or STR...

    As for v13, you can not have deeper clades or STR markers? Although it has been defined as southern europe, could it not be a descendant of Greek colonists of the sixth century ahead of Christ or...
  6. Thread: liguri v13

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    No, I'm sorry. It was a mistake in the...

    No, I'm sorry. It was a mistake in the translation. I mean to say that, unfortunately, in an important nation like Italy, they have not yet reached deep levels. And therefore, so many options are...
  7. Thread: liguri v13

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    sono in alto mare in giro. Avrebbero ricostruito...

    sono in alto mare in giro. Avrebbero ricostruito l'analisi precedente, dove al massimo abbiamo raggiunto il V13. Personalmente provengo dall'area ligure, sono positivo per cts 5856 e negativo sia...
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    Pity, because the discussion had begun in an...

    Pity, because the discussion had begun in an interesting way and continued in pursuing unjust nationalisms.Returning to the topic, there is the certainty that wherever there were Greek colonists and...
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    here is the graph done a little faster, shows...

    here is the graph done a little faster, shows that Italy is the country with most E-V13 to mondo.Se then consider Italians emigrated abroad (Argentina, Brazil, etc.) the number rises...
  10. here is the graph did a quick bit of distribution...

    here is the graph did a quick bit of distribution of E-V13 in Italy.
    Makes it a little justice in regions with a strong colonization greca.Prima Sicily, then Lazio, Campania, Puglia etc ... Lombardy...
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    you can make a map with numbers? Not with the...

    you can make a map with numbers? Not with the percentages?
    Because I think we will see different results, the Campania region with Naples capital has many more V13 small Kossovo.Il transfer of...
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    There are, however, 'some fixed points....

    There are, however, 'some fixed points.
    Haplogroup "E" definitely comes from the southern Mediterranean, not 'indoors it' speak a language indoeuropea.In asia especially to the east did not have a...
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    I read the article and frankly I 'seemed very...

    I read the article and frankly I 'seemed very superficiale.Sopratutto when it concludes that the ancient inhabitants of Crete are the same as attuali.Quali? Because haplogroup most represented and'...
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    For me it is easy to say that our V13 originates...

    For me it is easy to say that our V13 originates in the Cyclades and in the Aegean sea with those civilizations ' minoiche.Non calls were definitely indoeuropei.Avevano very strong ties with Libya...
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    I think it's time to take a step forward, the V13...

    I think it's time to take a step forward, the V13 Neolithic expansion 'was minima.La real expansion and ' occurred from the age ' of bronzo.Infatti all European tests are positive for haplogroup cts...
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    finally, now the going gets tough!

    finally, now the going gets tough!
  17. Thread: liguri v13

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    Herodotus, who was not quite the last, but he...

    Herodotus, who was not quite the last, but he traveled to learn about customs and peoples called them of Illyrian origin, and, if it were not for the wave of migration Slavic, you would have seen...
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    in recent years have found many residues...

    in recent years have found many residues Neolithic Liguria / Emilia / Piedmont etc.Tutti scholars have long concluded that the first wave arrival 'by mare.Vedi ceramics cardia and then mouth jars...
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    has come a long way this duck.Ho lost one...

    has come a long way this duck.Ho lost one step.where is the documentation for the finds to the north and south of the Balkans ?
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    come sempre molto chiara e preparata,complimenti....

    come sempre molto chiara e preparata,complimenti.
    Intendevo comunque mettere in rilievo un evidenza e dare la giusta importanza ad un espansione neolitica che dalla liguria potrebbe avere...
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    Esiodo riportata da Strabone in "La geografia VII...

    Esiodo riportata da Strabone in "La geografia VII 3.7" richiama il ligure i pił antichi abitanti dell'Occidente.Sarebbe troppo tempo per fare il discorso in questo sede.Forse non inizio nemmeno...
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    sono invece molti i siti neolitici della liguria...

    sono invece molti i siti neolitici della liguria e sopratutto nei territori dei liguri.Uno per tutti la grotta delle arene candide dove si vede l'arrivo di uomini provvenienti dal mare con appresso...
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    liguri v13

    secondo me e' piu coerente un' arrivo di V13 nel neolitico in liguria anziche' nel periodo della grecia classica o greci bizantini.
    Esiste un modo attraverso l'analisi di differenziare questi tre...
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