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    Those are Bjelica tribe. They used to have some...

    Those are Bjelica tribe. They used to have some Kuci tradition, but obviously they are not Kuchi. Nor do they descend from that area, because Bjelice are attested in their current area (SW...
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    Ah well that study was about Greek colonisation...

    Ah well that study was about Greek colonisation and Arvanites weren't Greek colonists so it makes sense.



    I thought you implied someone was avoiding Arvanites, which was the case as you...
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    That was Tofanelli et al. 2016 "The Greeks in the...

    That was Tofanelli et al. 2016 "The Greeks in the West", weird how they appear in every sample except two from that study. But authors were Italian so I doubt there was any foul play, especially as...
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    R-Z2705 in Greeks?? That is actually very easy to...

    R-Z2705 in Greeks?? That is actually very easy to determine owing to dys385, dys393, dys392 being present in (almost) all studies. And the sample is good as well. They pop up in most samples....
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    Yes. There is one E-Z1919 Thracian burial (at...

    Yes. There is one E-Z1919 Thracian burial (at YFull stands as V13), and one E-CTS1273* Scythian (CTS9320-, Z5018- for sure) of very likely Getae origin looking by his autosomal profile (also R-Z2103...
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    Other than that guy I don't see any other...

    Other than that guy I don't see any other Albanian having suffix -uli. For ex. Rasuli is Rasul + i. -i is a common Albanian suffix. This one looks like Vlach suffix -ul + Albanian suffix -i.

    I...
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    You know what's really interesting? Ossetians...

    You know what's really interesting? Ossetians have cluster of CTS1273*, BY3880-. Ossetians also have a cluster R-Y5586 (confirmed Y5586+ I heard). Bulgarians have diversity of Y5586 going 4300 ybp,...
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    Err nope. Z19851 has an isolated cluster in East...

    Err nope. Z19851 has an isolated cluster in East Serbia and Bulgaria (TMRCA 1400 ybp between them) which seems distant from this mobile Vlach cluster present in Vlachs, Albanians, Serbs of Bjelica...
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    Liburnians were I believe pred. PH1246 and some...

    Liburnians were I believe pred. PH1246 and some other older clades, yes. Liburnian culture preserved some of Cetina elements. It's archaeology that speaks of them mostly. They were a group different...
  10. There exist limited links but some of these might...

    There exist limited links but some of these might have some importance. Including this connection in vocabulary between Romanian and Albanian. I have all haplotypes, including around 120 ethnic...
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    I'm afraid realistic expansion of E-V13 is not...

    I'm afraid realistic expansion of E-V13 is not going to favor either either Hellenic nor Albanian fixation on Illyrians (largely inherited from Enver Hohxa similar to Romanian Dacian fixation...
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    The working hypothesis is that Y18331 are...

    The working hypothesis is that Y18331 are descendants of Bastarnae expedition as allies of Philip of Macedon in 179 BC. They did arrive to Thrace/Dardania, likely some were subsequently settled by...
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    Was he tested for BY3880? Guess not. I khow he is...

    Was he tested for BY3880? Guess not. I khow he is CTS5856*, from an FTDNA Pack where they didn't test BY3880 so chances are very high he is actually BY3880*. So I have problem with you using him as...
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    Greek BY3880* is an ethnic Bulgarian and he's...

    Greek BY3880* is an ethnic Bulgarian and he's Z5018+ at FTDNA in cluster with a Czech.

    If talking about E-V13 among Greeks, well there are only 3 ethnic Greeks at YFull, 1 being from a study....
  15. Poll: Ah interesting that he mentions Balkan descent....

    Ah interesting that he mentions Balkan descent. Likely Khazar was Y37903, that makes him still 3100 ybp distant from this Turk per YFull, so Khazar might have very different path compared to others,...
  16. Poll: Indeed Y52 has been found in a Sarmatian burial...

    Indeed Y52 has been found in a Sarmatian burial from Rostov. And now that you mention Khazars, I remember seeing STR's of two of them and now I took a look at these and one seems Y52+ with likely...
  17. Poll: I read one Greek was R-F2935 at 23andme, are you...

    I read one Greek was R-F2935 at 23andme, are you this person? Some clades such as Y52 are god candidates for Sarmatian, not sure about "Alan". Alans came from Asia in a wave after Sarmatians. And...
  18. Poll: In Bulgaria Thracian candidates are R-YP5271 and...

    In Bulgaria Thracian candidates are R-YP5271 and R-Z2125>YP413>M12280, latter is strong in the Middle East but in Europe (Italy, Spain) is found a distant clade of R-M12280>FGC66097, Bulgarian is...
  19. Poll: I know well Z93 clades and thus far among ethnic...

    I know well Z93 clades and thus far among ethnic Romanians/Moldovans (on a sample of 700 where STR's are available from many sources) I only saw a one certain Z93 which is of likely Turkic origin....
  20. Poll: Because they share an identical haplotype...

    Because they share an identical haplotype indicating low TMRCA.





    They are indeed under L23 but they are all L51+ and Z2103-! Also all bar one R-U152 are under Germanic U106. And one of...
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    There are few Serb E-Y146086's around Kraljevo. I...

    There are few Serb E-Y146086's around Kraljevo. I know they seem to match well some Western Bosnian Serbs (who are Y23, these are Y37 so they are certainly E-Y146086). There is some presence of...
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    Aromanians as a people are usually connected to...

    Aromanians as a people are usually connected to Eastern Balkan/Central/Eastern Balkan. That is where their ethnogenesis occurred according to many authors, their language is classified as East Balkan...
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    Another result from Bosniak project I noticed,...

    Another result from Bosniak project I noticed, Grosic from Bosnian Krajina J-Z1043* (YSEQ ?).
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    Already at Greek DNA project there are some interesting results from Lemnos island which was inhabited by speakers of an Etruscan related language.

    1. Firstly G-Y8903* at Lemnos, this is a basal...
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    I see. In Aromanian study of 175 Aromanians 10 of...

    I see. In Aromanian study of 175 Aromanians 10 of them (5 from Stip and 5 from Dukasi) belonged to a haplotype whose off-modal STR's were dys358b=19 + dys389b=16. You share both of these with a Greek...
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